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July 13th, 2021 at 4:09:47 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

I explained how to use E-Craps to redeem nearly 100% of free play years ago.

What I don't know is if the playing conditions you outlined actually exist.

What are the typical betting limits on the E-Craps machines?

I haven't seen any of those machines in the high-limit rooms.



I just answered you above
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July 13th, 2021 at 4:10:24 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

You answered your own question, but not my question.

It wasn't clear to me if you meant requesting a check from a slot attendant at cash out, or redeeming slot tickets at the cage and requesting a check from the cage attendant.

What did you mean?



No matter what answer I give you it will only lead to more questions. Just like in the other thread.

As they say on Shark Tank.... and for that reason I'm out.
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July 13th, 2021 at 4:11:22 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

I explained how to use E-Craps to redeem nearly 100% of free play years ago.

What I don't know is if the playing conditions you outlined actually exist.

What are the typical betting limits on the E-Craps machines?

I haven't seen any of those machines in the high-limit rooms.



I definitely recall an E-Craps game upon which you could make a $300 line bet, main floor. Assuming you could bet odds (as opposed to a hard max of $300 in total bets), there you go.

It was only 2x odds, but recall that slot W2-G relates to the total payout, which includes the amount wagered. Even if you could only take 1x odds, the result would be a W2-G.

Actually, maybe it was 3-4-5x odds, anyway. I’m going to need to start remembering to take pictures of every machine I encounter for as long as I live, and to make note of the date, place and time, in case I find myself in future pointless discussions that make me regret ever learning how to communicate with other people.
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July 13th, 2021 at 4:13:52 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I definitely recall an E-Craps game upon which you could make a $300 line bet, main floor. Assuming you could bet odds (as opposed to a hard max of $300 in total bets), there you go.

It was only 2x odds, but recall that slot W2-G relates to the total payout, which includes the amount wagered. Even if you could only take 1x odds, the result would be a W2-G.



The Nevada Gaming Commission considers E-craps to be a slot machine. I asked them.
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July 13th, 2021 at 4:15:49 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

if I can make a $10,000 wager for the table in Roulette I can guarantee a jackpot.



For the purpose of laundering money?

How would you get $10K into the machine without being detected?

How many times would that work without being detected?
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July 13th, 2021 at 4:16:21 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

The Nevada Gaming Commission considers E-craps to be a slot machine. I asked them.



Yes, precisely because it is electronic.

However, they should be considered fair. At least, in Nevada, because they have a physical representation of an actual gambling component, the probabilities must correspond.

By the way, I added a joke to that post.

Or, maybe it wasn’t a joke.

I’m sometimes not sure these days.
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July 13th, 2021 at 4:17:39 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I definitely recall an E-Craps game upon which you could make a $300 line bet, main floor. Assuming you could bet odds (as opposed to a hard max of $300 in total bets), there you go.

It was only 2x odds, but recall that slot W2-G relates to the total payout, which includes the amount wagered. Even if you could only take 1x odds, the result would be a W2-G.



Besides at ECraps you can easily overcome it. Would go slower but you just play max and take max odds on every point. If there was some table max for a single wager, that prevents you from triggering a W2G, you could still force W2G the game by having multiple points paid out on each seven out, where multiple decisions at table max, max odds would trigger.

You could even checkerboard to guarantee that both you and your Confederate got W2-G's at the exact same time
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July 13th, 2021 at 4:19:40 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

For the purpose of laundering money?

How would you get $10K into the machine without being detected?

How many times would that work without being detected?



Why would I need or want to go undetected?

I'm trying to prove I won the money, not stole it.
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July 13th, 2021 at 4:20:08 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

For the purpose of laundering money?

How would you get $10K into the machine without being detected?

How many times would that work without being detected?



Have you ever considered using your intelligence to engage in a meaningful conversation? You’re clearly a smart guy.

Do you expect that DarkOz is going to go to the casino and start doing it just to determine how many times he can without detection. Also, what do you mean by, “Detection?” It doesn’t sound like he has any money needing laundered, so there’s nothing to detect.
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July 13th, 2021 at 4:22:20 PM permalink
Quote: sabre

Thankfully we have you to come along and question it all to death.



The discussion is about laundering money in casinos.

If someone claims that it can be done by making a series of $10K bets on E-Roulette
then yes, I'll question it until it's clear to me that it can be done as claimed.

You're welcome.

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