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darkoz
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December 29th, 2020 at 2:04:05 PM permalink
The British virus is here. Much worse than the Chinese virus.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/28/us-confirms-first-case-of-the-new-covid-strain-discovered-in-uk-.html
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mcallister3200
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December 29th, 2020 at 2:23:32 PM permalink
Saying it’s much worse is more or less speculation when they’re using the term “could be” rather than “is” for transmissibility and when no factors beyond that are being considered.

Have seen no comment on whether effects rather transmissibility are more or less severe on average or more or less asymptomatic which would be at least as important, so really beyond that there’s a different strain they just don’t know or haven’t publicly provided enough at this point to move it outside what would be considered more or less speculation.
DRich
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December 29th, 2020 at 2:51:22 PM permalink
Has there been any reporting on how this new version is reacting to the vaccines on the market?
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DRich
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December 29th, 2020 at 2:52:31 PM permalink
Has there been any reporting on how this new version is reacting to the vaccines on the market?
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mcallister3200
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December 29th, 2020 at 3:00:48 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Has there been any reporting on how this new version is reacting to the vaccines on the market?



They’re saying the vaccines will still be reasonably effective but could be less effective. No sort of specific trials or anything that I’m aware of.
rxwine
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December 29th, 2020 at 3:05:24 PM permalink
Was there really any doubt it wouldn’t be here?
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redietz
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December 29th, 2020 at 3:22:32 PM permalink
Just so the forum is aware, I'm having a friend send me some of the international interviews on this. The thumbnail summary I received thus far:

1) There is no question that it is MUCH more transmissible than the present incarnation.
2) Unless the world is magically vaccinated as a whole overnight, the virus will continue to evolve in a manner that evades vaccines. That's the job of a virus, unfortunately.
3) The rough estimates of covid global death rates have not been mentioned publicly much. For those over 70 who are infected, the death rate appears to be about 10%. For those over 80, closer to 20%.

I said this nine months ago, and sad to say it's time to say it again...buckle up. The worst is yet to come.
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December 29th, 2020 at 3:24:02 PM permalink
From what I have read this is way overhyped by the media.

There are already something like 30 strains of coronavirus with varying levels of severity. This one is not unusual or significantly worse than other variants, and the vaccine is expected to work just fine with all of them.
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December 29th, 2020 at 3:34:57 PM permalink
I heard EvenBob had this strain three months ago :)
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December 29th, 2020 at 3:53:26 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

From what I have read this is way overhyped by the media.

There are already something like 30 strains of coronavirus with varying levels of severity. This one is not unusual or significantly worse than other variants, and the vaccine is expected to work just fine with all of them.



I don't know your source but this strain has just shut down england
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