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January 2nd, 2021 at 9:09:32 AM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

I apologize I didn’t see the quotation marks.
I was being a little sarcastic in my post but if the virus did originate in China or this new strain in Britain I just don’t see the big deal in calling them the Chinese virus or the British virus.

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January 2nd, 2021 at 5:52:50 PM permalink
In regards to the term "British covid" that was the only way I knew what this thread was about - the more contagious variant of Covid that has been reported by Great Britain. And, I am indeed interested in this topic and I appreciate Charlie's report on how things are going in Britain.

No one is suggesting we get a rope and string up Brits because they discovered this variant. If someone does eventually string up OnceDear I suspect it will be for other reasons.

Maybe we should call it Covid-19.01 or 19.x where x is whatever the variant number is.
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January 2nd, 2021 at 7:29:16 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

In regards to the term "British covid" that was the only way I knew what this thread was about -.



I'm trying to imagine the reaction I'd get if I started making up new math terms for my convenience when proper ones already exist.

I understand the need for the public to understand that a more contagious variant from the UK exists, Just sayin' There's also at least two other variants. And will probably be more before this is over
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January 2nd, 2021 at 8:54:29 PM permalink
Well the Brits want to delay the second dose of the vaccine from 3 weeks to 3 months with no testing whatsoever in an effort to give more first doses right away. They're trying to kill you.
I went to my local Walgreens and asked the pharmacist when the vaccine would be available; she said May 2021. TV is saying that at the current rate of vaccination, it will take 10 years to vaccinate the USA.
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January 2nd, 2021 at 11:40:56 PM permalink
If it makes you feel better. My bookkeepers mom and aunt took the vaccine. It has horrible side effects. Ill ask her again what happened.
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January 2nd, 2021 at 11:54:40 PM permalink
It's meant to trigger your immune system, so I'd guess you could get COVID symptoms without the actual disease. TV has mentioned Bell's Palsy as a vaccine symptom a few weeks ago, which is paralyzing. Talking heads are left to speculate whether someone died of a stroke or as a result of a stroke from having the vaccine. Seeing the long vaccine & voting lines in some places, you could get COVID just waiting in line for hours. Some people may want to take a wait & see position on getting a vaccine, no need to be a Beta casualty of the vaccine. But it is a race to get vaccinated before you catch the virus, and this virus is completely out of control across the country for the last few months.
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January 4th, 2021 at 1:39:09 PM permalink
Took vaccine: Bookkeepers 38 Old sister took vaccine, no issue. 70 Old mom groggy , couldnt pick up Swollen arm, couldnt sleep but 3 hrs. Doctor said take Tylenol every 5 hours. 54 Old Aunt same symptoms. I guess not really so horrible so far
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January 5th, 2021 at 9:54:14 PM permalink
Hopefully, this virus will end and not for long and no other virus will follow please stop...
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January 6th, 2021 at 2:44:51 AM permalink
Quote: jjjoooggg

Took vaccine: Bookkeepers 38 Old sister took vaccine, no issue. 70 Old mom groggy , couldnt pick up Swollen arm, couldnt sleep but 3 hrs. Doctor said take Tylenol every 5 hours. 54 Old Aunt same symptoms. I guess not really so horrible so far



Thank you, gives me even more reason to not take it.
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January 6th, 2021 at 10:29:03 AM permalink
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Thank you, gives me even more reason to not take it.



Maybe someone can provide you a couple OxyContin for the vaccine ordeal you’re anticipating.
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January 6th, 2021 at 11:02:53 AM permalink
I call it the "Nero fiddles" method.

No masks, no social distancing, no closing, no vaccines.

Just let it all burn
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January 6th, 2021 at 1:17:40 PM permalink
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Just let it all burn



Well, it is a rather odd day. That's all I'm saying.
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January 6th, 2021 at 2:54:41 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Maybe someone can provide you a couple OxyContin for the vaccine ordeal you’re anticipating.



They do not affect me much. I will just skip the shot.
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January 6th, 2021 at 2:55:18 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I call it the "Nero fiddles" method.

No masks, no social distancing, no closing, no vaccines.

Just let it all burn



I call it going on with life.
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January 6th, 2021 at 4:45:14 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I call it going on with life.



So did Emperor Nero
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January 6th, 2021 at 6:15:45 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Thank you, gives me even more reason to not take it.



She couldnt sleep the 1st nite because of the arm pain without tylenol. Day 2 she took tylenol. Both older ladies felt tired for 2 days.
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January 7th, 2021 at 3:29:37 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

So did Emperor Nero



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January 7th, 2021 at 4:51:17 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.



The enemy is not the government.

It's the virus.

Therein lies your misconception
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January 7th, 2021 at 9:53:16 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: AZDuffman

Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.



The enemy is not the government. It's the virus.



Whether the government has handled the pandemic well or poorly (opinions vary...), IMHO America and its government need to work together to defeat the coronavirus.

If we do not work together in a sincere effort to overcome the C-virus, a lot of Americans won't have the choice whether to die on their knees or on their feet. The choice will be prone or supine.
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January 7th, 2021 at 12:49:33 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

The enemy is not the government.

It's the virus.

Therein lies your misconception



The government is the one keeping people from their livelyhoods. The government is the one rushing us towards a depression.
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January 8th, 2021 at 10:29:36 AM permalink
The AP is reporting a recent study suggests that the Pfizer vaccine is effective against mutated strains.
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January 8th, 2021 at 11:14:08 AM permalink
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The AP is reporting a recent study suggests that the Pfizer vaccine is effective against mutated strains.



Since this virus will always be with us since many people refuse to be vaccinated, they will likely keep developing vaccines every year for it.
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January 8th, 2021 at 11:19:31 AM permalink
I guess it’s better to endure the repeated costs every year of preventable disease than actually force vaccinations.
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January 8th, 2021 at 11:39:43 AM permalink
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I guess it’s better to endure the repeated costs every year of preventable disease than actually force vaccinations.

They should just pass all the costs off to the people who refused to get vaccinated or give those who do get vaccinated money. Watch how fast all the Anti-vaxxers line up. Anti-vaxxers should be held accountable if they pass the virus to someone. If you don't want to get vaccinated go live in the woods and stay away from others.
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January 8th, 2021 at 12:21:33 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

They should just pass all the costs off to the people who refused to get vaccinated or give those who do get vaccinated money. Watch how fast all the Anti-vaxxers line up. Anti-vaxxers should be held accountable if they pass the virus to someone. If you don't want to get vaccinated go live in the woods and stay away from others.



Hopefully the next round of stimulus money will be tied to getting the vaccine. That way people still have a choice if they don't want to get the vaccine.
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January 8th, 2021 at 12:45:58 PM permalink
Once I get a vaccine, I'll still be a potential spreader to everybody who hasn't had one.
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January 8th, 2021 at 12:51:12 PM permalink
The wait is so long for the vaccine. We kind of had our choice made for us already.
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January 8th, 2021 at 12:54:55 PM permalink
That's actually unknown at this stage.
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January 8th, 2021 at 3:23:40 PM permalink
I was property hunting down in the sleepy hamlet of Naco today. It's right on the border and has maybe 500 residents, with maybe another thousand in the areas outside of town. Amazingly, they had a block closed off for covid testing, with about a half dozen people in spaceman suits sitting around with not a taker in sight.
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January 8th, 2021 at 5:58:02 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

They should just pass all the costs off to the people who refused to get vaccinated or give those who do get vaccinated money. Watch how fast all the Anti-vaxxers line up. Anti-vaxxers should be held accountable if they pass the virus to someone. If you don't want to get vaccinated go live in the woods and stay away from others.



Why? If you are vaccinated and wear your mask you have nothing to worry about.
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January 8th, 2021 at 7:59:07 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Why? If you are vaccinated and wear your mask you have nothing to worry about.



If everyone was vaccinated we wouldn't have to wear masks anymore.

Which is what you want, right? To not have to wear masks?
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January 9th, 2021 at 2:08:05 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Why? If you are vaccinated and wear your mask you have nothing to worry about.

If all the people who are claiming they won't get the vaccine actually don't get it, the virus will remain with much much longer. That doesn't just affect the people who pass it around to each other, it affects everyone else as well.

And no, I don't live my life sheltered up and all scared, however, it certainly would be nice for things to get back to normal as fast as possible.
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January 9th, 2021 at 10:14:44 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

If all the people who are claiming they won't get the vaccine actually don't get it, the virus will remain with much much longer. That doesn't just affect the people who pass it around to each other, it affects everyone else as well.

And no, I don't live my life sheltered up and all scared, however, it certainly would be nice for things to get back to normal as fast as possible.



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January 9th, 2021 at 10:35:40 AM permalink
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My body, my choice.



Ewwww!

Typhoid Mary took the same stance.
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January 9th, 2021 at 12:47:24 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

My body, my choice.

I agree, you not should be forced to get vaccinated.... just banned from going into public if you refuses to do so.
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January 9th, 2021 at 6:35:49 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I agree, you not should be forced to get vaccinated.... just banned from going into public if you refuses to do so.



Why? You take it and you are safe.
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January 9th, 2021 at 6:58:05 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Why? You take it and you are safe.



You appear not to fully understand how this vaccine works.

After taking it the person vaccinated is safe from the effects of Covid if they contract it.

Which means in essence, every vaccinated person becomes a de facto asymptomatic carrier if they do in fact contract covid.

The population refusing to not get vaccinated will in essence allow this epidemic to continue.

Good luck with keeping the economy open when the disease still goes unchecked.

With something like covid having a large swath of population vaccinated is important
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January 9th, 2021 at 7:49:51 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

You appear not to fully understand how this vaccine works.

After taking it the person vaccinated is safe from the effects of Covid if they contract it.

Which means in essence, every vaccinated person becomes a de facto asymptomatic carrier if they do in fact contract covid.

The population refusing to not get vaccinated will in essence allow this epidemic to continue.

Good luck with keeping the economy open when the disease still goes unchecked.

With something like covid having a large swath of population vaccinated is important



So take it and you are fine. Keep it away from me.

Open up the economy now.
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January 9th, 2021 at 8:13:57 PM permalink
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So take it and you are fine. Keep it away from me.

Open up the economy now.



Most of the economy is open

Quite a few Casinos are open.

Most restaurants are open.

The economy is still suffering.

Will continue to suffer long as people get sick from this contagion.

Sorry, I know that stings
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January 10th, 2021 at 4:42:49 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Most of the economy is open

Quite a few Casinos are open.

Most restaurants are open.

The economy is still suffering.

Will continue to suffer long as people get sick from this contagion.

Sorry, I know that stings



Still major restrictions in most places.

People do not want to go out if they have to wear masks. Who wants to go to a casino if you have to do that?

Economy is suffering because of Christmas lockdowns.

96% are not sick,
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January 10th, 2021 at 5:58:37 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Still major restrictions in most places.

People do not want to go out if they have to wear masks. Who wants to go to a casino if you have to do that?

Economy is suffering because of Christmas lockdowns.

96% are not sick,



You keep talking about how you wish to live life to the fullest and then prove how you can't seem to figure out how to do it.

Let me show you.

Last night Empire Casino in NY reached lawful capacity under covid conditions. Inside, I found it difficult to Walk around as it was so packed there was always someone stepping in front of me

Outside people lined up waiting to enter. People with masks. People ready to gamble. PEOPLE NOT LETTING THE PANDEMIC STOP THEM!







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January 10th, 2021 at 6:11:26 AM permalink
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You keep talking about how you wish to live life to the fullest and then prove how you can't seem to figure out how to do it.



Standing out in the cold wearing a mask is not living life to the fullest at all.
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January 10th, 2021 at 6:37:59 AM permalink
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Standing out in the cold wearing a mask is not living life to the fullest at all.



And so the tables have turned.

The guy who espouses not being locked in his home now chooses to be locked in by his own decree because he can't take the cold.

Strange for a guy who lives in Pennsylvania!
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January 10th, 2021 at 6:47:07 AM permalink
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And so the tables have turned.

The guy who espouses not being locked in his home now chooses to be locked in by his own decree because he can't take the cold.

Strange for a guy who lives in Pennsylvania!



Lots of people in PA hate the cold. Most people I know hate it.
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January 10th, 2021 at 7:02:28 AM permalink
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Lots of people in PA hate the cold. Most people I know hate it.



I agree, just because you live in a cold place doesn't mean that you like the cold. The beauty of thid country is you are allowed to move where it is warm. When I graduated college I vowed to never live wear it is cold again. I screwed up, I didn't know it got cold in Las Vegas. Hopefully I will bemoving somewhere warm shortly.
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January 10th, 2021 at 7:07:49 AM permalink
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Lots of people in PA hate the cold. Most people I know hate it.



So you feel when it comes to a contagion that life goes on and people need to get out but when it comes to annual winter weather, you want to stay cloistered inside your home?
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January 10th, 2021 at 7:35:57 AM permalink
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So you feel when it comes to a contagion that life goes on and people need to get out but when it comes to annual winter weather, you want to stay cloistered inside your home?



No.

In winter I will go places like a casino because I am still indoors. I am not going to go and stand in the cold wearing a mask waiting to get in like an idiot.

See, I ask myself, "would an idiot stand in the cold wearing a mask to get into a casino where he has to wear a mask the whole time?"

And I say, "yes, an idiot would."

So I will not do that thing.
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January 10th, 2021 at 7:38:43 AM permalink
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I agree, just because you live in a cold place doesn't mean that you like the cold. The beauty of thid country is you are allowed to move where it is warm. When I graduated college I vowed to never live wear it is cold again. I screwed up, I didn't know it got cold in Las Vegas. Hopefully I will bemoving somewhere warm shortly.



I tried doing it. The problem it the warm places tend to be much more expensive homes in HOA dictatorships.

I prefer a few months of cold over twice the cost to own a home and I vow never, ever to move to HOAland unless I go condo or townhome which would be a "lock the door" place I could leave and spend half my time traveling.
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January 10th, 2021 at 7:51:21 AM permalink
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I tried doing it. The problem it the warm places tend to be much more expensive homes in HOA dictatorships.

I prefer a few months of cold over twice the cost to own a home and I vow never, ever to move to HOAland unless I go condo or townhome which would be a "lock the door" place I could leave and spend half my time traveling.



I am guessing that you haven't spent much time in Alabama, Louisanna, and Mississippi. Very affordable.
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