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August 11th, 2019 at 5:28:37 AM permalink
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August 11th, 2019 at 5:52:26 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

don't buy the conspiracy BS at all

first of all - if it was anybody with even a modicum of intelligence they would know that the suicide is going to cause even more investigation and it will cause all of these previously unreleased documents to come to light

any big player contemplating such a thing would know that



Hmmm, if I told you a major car manufacturer purposefully rigged emissions tests in order to violate US emissions regulations you and I would probably agree it was highly unlikely anyone of any intelligence running a major corporation would believe they could get away with it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal

Or perhaps major players with intelligence believe BECAUSE they are so rich and powerful they can cover up and succeed with such plans.

Most inmates say they "thought they were gonna get away with it". Being rich does not change your way of thinking about your chances of success in criminality. In fact it probably heightens it. (Look at Cosby, Jared, or Simpson)
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August 11th, 2019 at 6:37:45 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I'd bet you the odds of it being Clinton related are much greater than it being Trump related. Only someone with TDS would think the opposite.



You do know that ,as far as any public records show, Clinton used Epsteins jet for charity work. That ,as far as records show, Clinton never visited the notorious island, and that it was Donny who arranged a private party with just he and "Epi" and twentyzomething "showgirl type models".
Once again, the man who claims to detest trump is somehow supporting him, with absolutely no evidence to show. Just another hunch,eh?
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August 11th, 2019 at 7:29:34 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

you were the guy making all kinds of wild, slanderous speculations about the Vegas shooter who killed 58 - speculating he was left wing


He killed 59, btw. And no, I didn't slander anyone. But it's kinda funny that you'd think being called a "left wing" is slanderous. I've read enough of your posts to not really care what your opinion is of me. Sorry!


Let's get this thread back on track:

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August 11th, 2019 at 8:00:44 AM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

You need to back this up. I'm sure the mods will catch up to this thread any moment now. You made an accusation against me. Now you need to back it up.


"you were the guy making all kinds of wild, slanderous speculations about the Vegas shooter who killed 58 - speculating he was left wing"

-- quote by lilredrooster, accusing ME.



Haven't finished reading this thread, but.

You're incorrect. He said that to RS, not you. He quoted RS. And yes, RS did make a post or 3 in that vein at the time. So that was correct.

And no, I'm not going to find a link to that thread for you.

Now let's see what else got thrown into the stew here.

Edit: nice job, both of you, figuring out the miscommunication.
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August 11th, 2019 at 8:18:16 AM permalink
Y'all making so much of the Clinton connection with bits and pieces of evidence about the jet.

Convenient of you to "overlook" the affidavits and charges against Trump and Epstein by the (then) 13 yo who swore Epstein gave her to Trump at a sex party, Trump raped her, Epstein raped her and had a fight with Trump over him getting her first, and her seeing Trump at 4 specific sex parties of Epstein's.

Withdrawing the lawsuit later does not mean it didn't happen.

The Trump campaign was not happy about the video showing Epstein and Trump looking over his girls. Epstein was a known extortionist of his many clients in whatever way he could get over on them. Trump has raised over 240 M from very rich people who want him reelected.

Qui Bono from Epstein's death? Clinton, who's out of public life and can't be President again? Hillary, who isn't running and is out of public life?

Trump, who has everything to lose if evidence of his Epstein orgies exists?

No wonder the conspiracy people are going ham on the Clintons.

NSFW details of the lawsuit's contents. You might not like vox as a source, but they're just reporting the information that was in the affidavits.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation
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August 11th, 2019 at 8:37:16 AM permalink
I am not a conspiracy person. Almost everything is pretty much what it appears to be.

Iíd say that it appears that this one crosses all party lines, and all international lines: Epstein lived up to his end of a sordid bargain. Essentially, the calculation is that the collateral damage of Epstein killing himself, regardless of how it is perceived or investigated, is less damaging that a trial would be. Whatever actually gets exposed will be 1/50th of what would have been exposed, but now there can be reasons for letting it peter out. Some minor heads will roll, and international order will be maintained. Letís not forget that Trump and the Clintons were all buddy-buddy for years, when it served them both to be. And thatís just two people. Dershowitz, Prince Philip, senators and congressmen, international businessmen and politicians, ambassadors... and letís not get partisan, this crosses administrations, parties, borders and oceans. Epstein was pimp to the 1% of the 1%. Not just a pimp; the best pimp. The private island guy. The one with the jets and the helicopters and the discreet connections and the young girls who were overwhelmed by the power and the lifestyle.

We are playthings for these people. Republican? Democrat? Socialist? Communist, Fascist? Doesnít matter when it comes to preserving their wealth and power. The wagons get circled. Epstein decided he would rather die in the circle than live outside of it. Some arrangements were made, and it happened, and the planet rotates and revolves.
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August 11th, 2019 at 10:04:44 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs


Edit: nice job, both of you, figuring out the miscommunication.




Yeah, sorry 'bout that, I screwed up.
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August 11th, 2019 at 11:11:46 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

You do know that ,as far as any public records show, Clinton used Epsteins jet for charity work. That ,as far as records show, Clinton never visited the notorious island, and that it was Donny who arranged a private party with just he and "Epi" and twentyzomething "showgirl type models".
Once again, the man who claims to detest trump is somehow supporting him, with absolutely no evidence to show. Just another hunch,eh?



How can a person get it wrong so many times? I think $1 Ribeyes are definitely responsible for some damage in this world.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known
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August 11th, 2019 at 11:18:02 AM permalink
I can't imagine a warden having Epstein in his custody not having him under surveillance 24/7. Especially after supposedly trying to kill himself once already. Where is the footage?

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