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petroglyph
March 13th, 2019 at 5:51:34 AM permalink
Wealthy people buying their dumbass children's way into college -- news at 11
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March 13th, 2019 at 6:00:34 AM permalink
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I dont feel higher than anyone else.

Re-read some of your posts
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Ive made very poor decisions in my life.

It's called craps
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Never leached on the system.

You created your own where now the casinos are actually leeching off you. Ya, Ya, I know, you think they will never catch up with you since you use a super duper fancy dancy hit and run system.

and don't forget to stay hydrated.
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March 13th, 2019 at 8:02:59 AM permalink
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What's really funny is; the people that are all upset with rich people buying their kids way in are ok with dunces getting in under affirmative action. You really can't make this stuff up.



I'd rather have bribery than affirmative action for putting dunces in school.

At least bribery puts money back in the economy.

And I'd much rather have some rich d-bag pay $40 million for a stadium to get his idiot kids into college than have that $40 million come out of my tax dollars.
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March 13th, 2019 at 9:49:37 AM permalink
"A source told the Los Angeles Times that Huffman and other defendants had recently received notice that they might face arrest. Sources familiar with Huffman’s arrest told the paper that FBI agents with guns drawn showed up at the actress’ home at 6 a.m. to take her into custody."

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/felicity-huffman-arrested-by-fbi-agents-with-guns-drawn-in-early-morning-report?fbclid=IwAR2mXx2Ph9rAdkzAu63zO6Djz7xRrLvEpI4ls_zc_zsEVfHqI1UI40FBqnM

This is not as silly as the Stone arrest with boats and all (and a news team!), but it seems a bit ridiculous that they were notified of their impending arrests and not simply told "report between 7-9 a.m. on 3/12 to be processed or risk a knock on your door and being taken into custody by force." You already TOLD them you were coming so you gave them info to get ready to do something stupid if that thought was in their head. If you are telling someone they are about to be arrested (as opposed to them knowing they were a suspect and not the fact that arrest was imminent), why waste the time and manpower...not to mention the always present danger of adding drawn weapons to the mix...serving the warrant?

It isn't that I am against having guns drawn when serving an arrest warrant; I just see no need in either the Stone case (except for TV) or these cases to add extra risks to anyone, including the officers/agents involved.
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March 13th, 2019 at 9:53:22 AM permalink
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"A source told the Los Angeles Times that Huffman and other defendants had recently received notice that they might face arrest. Sources familiar with Huffman’s arrest told the paper that FBI agents with guns drawn showed up at the actress’ home at 6 a.m. to take her into custody."

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/felicity-huffman-arrested-by-fbi-agents-with-guns-drawn-in-early-morning-report?fbclid=IwAR2mXx2Ph9rAdkzAu63zO6Djz7xRrLvEpI4ls_zc_zsEVfHqI1UI40FBqnM

This is not as silly as the Stone arrest with boats and all (and a news team!), but it seems a bit ridiculous that they were notified of their impending arrests and not simply told "report between 7-9 a.m. on 3/12 to be processed or risk a knock on your door and being taken into custody by force." You already TOLD them you were coming so you gave them info to get ready to do something stupid if that thought was in their head. If you are telling someone they are about to be arrested (as opposed to them knowing they were a suspect and not the fact that arrest was imminent), why waste the time and manpower...not to mention the always present danger of adding drawn weapons to the mix...serving the warrant?

It isn't that I am against having guns drawn when serving an arrest warrant; I just see no need in either the Stone case (except for TV) or these cases to add extra risks to anyone, including the officers/agents involved.



I think, "received notice that they might face arrest" is not the same as "We're coming tomorrow morning to arrest you".
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March 13th, 2019 at 10:05:46 AM permalink
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I think, "received notice that they might face arrest" is not the same as "We're coming tomorrow morning to arrest you".



It doesn't matter as far as I am concerned. Parsing words. They were going to be arrested; they would not have been notified of that if there had not been a nearly 100% chance that it was going to happen.

The point is why waste the time and manpower and not just have them report? You can't even use the "publicity" thing like they did in the perp walks for Wall Street where they wanted to get it in the news. These people were being arrested, no matter how the came to be in custody, and sending 13 teams of gun-wielding agents for this type of crime is a waste of time and money. OUR money. If one of the accused was considered dangerous, then you have to handle that in a different way.

Stone was not dangerous. These defendants may well be guilty, but they are physically pretty harmless.

You can still publish mug shots and say that have been arrested...
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March 13th, 2019 at 10:22:03 AM permalink
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Quote: Ayecarumba

I think, "received notice that they might face arrest" is not the same as "We're coming tomorrow morning to arrest you".



It doesn't matter as far as I am concerned. Parsing words. They were going to be arrested; they would not have been notified of that if there had not been a nearly 100% chance that it was going to happen.

The point is why waste the time and manpower and not just have them report? You can't even use the "publicity" thing like they did in the perp walks for Wall Street where they wanted to get it in the news. These people were being arrested, no matter how the came to be in custody, and sending 13 teams of gun-wielding agents for this type of crime is a waste of time and money. OUR money. If one of the accused was considered dangerous, then you have to handle that in a different way.

Stone was not dangerous. These defendants may well be guilty, but they are physically pretty harmless.

You can still publish mug shots and say that have been arrested...



There's a big difference between "might" and "We are coming to arrrest you". I get notices of "might" or "may" face prosecution every time I play a DVD, or watch an MLB baseball game on TV. That is very different than "Officers will be at your door tomorrow morning to take you into custody". Which you have rightly pointed out would put law enforcement in jeopardy.

It is clear that the arrests were done purposefully to embarrass folks and generate publicity. I also agree with you that it is a waste of tax payer dollars too, and that these parents, whose real crime is what... wanting the best for their kids?... will not face any significant jail time and will end up doing community service. In the meantime, a USC student was murdered a few blocks from the campus on Sunday night. Maybe the resources spent running down rich folks who made large "donations" in order to get their kids on campus would be better spent keeping the kids already there from dying at the hands of gun wielding criminals?
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March 13th, 2019 at 10:27:47 AM permalink
Maybe they thought they were flight risks for some reason.

They're rich, they could afford to just leave the country at the drop of a hat and never come back.
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March 13th, 2019 at 11:36:44 AM permalink
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Maybe they thought they were flight risks for some reason.

They're rich, they could afford to just leave the country at the drop of a hat and never come back.



If they thought that, then they should not have been notified that they may face arrest. I am pretty sure lawyers and all were already involved; it isn't like they solved the crime yesterday and no one involved knew anything about it.

I am against the improper use of force--you use the force necessary without risking the lives of officers. "Guns drawn" would seem to be pretty normal when arriving at a home with an unknown response from the folks inside. I just don't think you need to go that far in a case like this. We let people surrender all the time--Aunt Becky was out of the country and it does not seem like she was arrested on arrival back in the US; it sounds like she turned herself in as planned.

This seems, as Stone did, more like someone feeling like some weird show of force is necessary for whatever reason. Showing force is sometimes called for but the less time officers have to draw their weapons, the better.

I am not excusing the crimes, if they did them (and a lot of evidence is in the public record on that issue); just the use of 13 teams to arrest some white collar folks at gunpoint.
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March 13th, 2019 at 11:59:41 AM permalink
Luckily the cops didn't accidentally discharge their firearms and kill anybody [and the family dog] ala SWAT.

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