Huge college entrance scandal
Yale, Georgetown, Texas are among the schools involved, as are a number of medical professionals. Parents paid up to$75,000 for impersonators to take tests. Fake athletic clubs were created to give the impression the students were part of an elite program.
The Yale Soccer coach recruited a"star" player who never played in return for two million dollars.
Some very big names involved. Who else has the money to pay $300,000- four million to get their kid into a.school
Quote: billryanJustice Department is about to release results of an investigation into a long running scheme to get undeserving students into schools, including Yale. Fake resumes, impersonators taking tests, college coaches being paid to falsely recruit " athletes".
Yale, Georgetown, Texas are among the schools involved, as are a number of medical professionals. Parents paid up to$75,000 for impersonators to take tests. Fake athletic clubs were created to give the impression the students were part of an elite program.
The Yale Soccer coach recruited a"star" player who never played in return for two million dollars.
Some very big names involved. Who else has the money to pay $300,000- four million to get their kid into a.school
Coach at Stanford arrested in connection to this.
More than 40 people have been indicted in the scheme that allegedly involved students gaining entrance to schools including Georgetown, Stanford, Wake Forest University, UCLA and Yale as recruited athletes — regardless of their athletic ability."
https://nypost.com/2019/03/12/lori-loughlin-felicity-huffman-busted-in-college-admissions-cheating-scandal/
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/investigations-college-admissions-and-testing-bribery-scheme
It is all a joke to those outside this little club. In one group you have mostly upper class whites but more than a few asian families dropping crazy amounts of cash to get their kids into the elite circle. The kids are just collecting activities at school to give a quantity that no normal person could do. All kinds of coaching to grind out that last 1% on the SAT and essay. All for this little game to fit in the keyhole just perfect.
Meanwhile the universities don't want so many whites and asians hanging around so they chase any minority they find and rig the system so they can get in without the school going before SCOTUS to defend discrimination based on race.
All the while once the kids get in to most of these schools they all end up with A or B grades in all their classes due to grade inflation.
The part of society enamored with paper laps it up year after year. Those of us who took the red pill laugh at them.
Quote: mcallister3200They forgot to mention who paid to get hoggie into Harvard when he couldn’t get into UCLA.
Honestly, I've heard that even Ivy League schools aren't as hard to get into as people think, it's just that most people can't afford them so that's most of what makes them "exclusive."
Quote: TigerWuHonestly, I've heard that even Ivy League schools aren't as hard to get into as people think, it's just that most people can't afford them so that's most of what makes them "exclusive."
This is false. Harvard is cheaper than Boston University.
college, she's about as smart as an 8th grader.
Quote: sabreThis is false. Harvard is cheaper than Boston University.
What is false?
Quote: EvenBobWho paid for Crazy Eyes Cortez to get into
college,
Her parents.
Quote:she's about as smart as an 8th grader.
So you only have to be as smart as an 8th grader to graduate from Boston University with honors? Interesting....
Quote: FleaswatterIt would not surprise me if the vast majority of those accused of paying a bribe for their child to be admitted to college were liberals/lefties.
Considering how much money was involved I would say its the opposite
Quote: FleaswatterIt would not surprise me if the vast majority of those accused of paying a bribe for their child to be admitted to college were liberals/lefties.
That's impossible -- conservatives keep telling me that libs and lefties are jobless, mooching socialists. How can they afford to bribe ivy league schools??
EDIT: Felicity Huffman appears to be on the liberal side, but Lori Laughlin is apparently hardcore Christian, and everyone knows that liberals hate God so she's probably more conservative.
Also, here's an indictment for, and names of, twelve coaches involved in this scandal as well.
EDIT 2: Also, I would be very surprised if the aforementioned Wynn executive is a liberal.
Quote: TigerWuSo you only have to be as smart as an 8th grader to graduate from Boston University with honors? Interesting....
That wouldn't shock me if we are talking about a Liberal Arts degree.
Quote: DRichThat wouldn't shock me if we are talking about a Liberal Arts degree.
All kidding aside, though, even for a Liberal Arts degree the gen-ed courses would be above an 8th grade level.
Quote: darkozConsidering how much money was involved I would say its the opposite
What does "how much money involved" have to do with it? Are you under the impression that rich = conservative?
a college degree costs more now than
the value of having the degree.
Quote: EvenBobRush put it this way today. The cost of
a college degree costs more now than
the value of having the degree.
Except for STEM and medical that is spot on.
10 years out of school most degrees are meaningless. By then it is experience that counts.
If I was young today I would take a trade, probably welding.
Quote: AZDuffman
If I was young today I would take a trade, probably welding.
My uncle was a welder and he was
never out of work, always had a
high paying blue collar job.
Quote: AZDuffman
If I was young today I would take a trade, probably welding.
Lots of people look down on people in the trades but I think today it is still very valuable and can be lucrative. A close friend of mine is a carpenter and he makes great money in Las Vegas. His union wage is $64 an hour and he works lots of overtime averaging $100 an hour. He made over $160k this past year and he is just a worker, not any type of supervisor or foreman.
Quote: DRichLots of people look down on people in the trades but I think today it is still very valuable and can be lucrative. A close friend of mine is a carpenter and he makes great money in Las Vegas. His union wage is $64 an hour and he works lots of overtime averaging $100 an hour. He made over $160k this past year and he is just a worker, not any type of supervisor or foreman.
"Blue collar" work is hard. I certainly don't look down on it. I think some of those jobs are definitely worth the high pay.
I like having a nice, comfortable office job, though, so I don't mind making less money than a tradesperson.
EDIT:
Here is the complete list of those charged in the bribery scandal.
Quote: DRichLots of people look down on people in the trades but I think today it is still very valuable and can be lucrative. A close friend of mine is a carpenter and he makes great money in Las Vegas. His union wage is $64 an hour and he works lots of overtime averaging $100 an hour. He made over $160k this past year and he is just a worker, not any type of supervisor or foreman.
Part of it I blame on television and part on our political class. As to TV, well it is easier to make generic white collar work look glamorous. Meanwhile it is easier for politicians to just keep calling to warehouse more and more kids in 13th grade a/k/a college when they do not yet have a direction in life.
Need to get the trades more involved at the high school level. Some kind of recruiting. Showing what the work is.
Quote: FleaswatterIt would not surprise me if the vast majority of those accused of paying a bribe for their child to be admitted to college were liberals/lefties.
This is not a political topic
yet we see
Left hate syndrome from fleaswatter
As soon as fleaswatter hears somebody breaks the law
He automatically accuses the left with absolutely no evidence
Why are you so filled with hate fleaswatter?
I'm sure if Fleaswatter see's somebody jaywalking and he will accuse the jaywalker of being a lib
lol
Quote: terapinedThis is not a political topic
yet we see
Left hate syndrome from fleaswatter
As soon as fleaswatter hears somebody breaks the law
He automatically accuses the left with absolutely no evidence
Why are you so filled with hate fleaswatter?
I'm sure if Fleaswatter see's somebody jaywalking and he will accuse the jaywalker of being a lib
lol
Yeah, I was confused why certain members automatically tried to turn this into a political argument.
Simultaneously unemployed living off handouts and bribing Universities for millions of dollars.
The real question here is... how dumb did their children have to be in order to need to be admitted to UCLA and Texas through bribes?
Quote: WatchMeWin...The real question here is... how dumb did their children have to be in order to need to be admitted to UCLA and Texas through bribes?
I don't know about UT, but UCLA is a highly selective school. For the Fall of 2018, they received 113,755 Freshman applications and admitted 15,970, or 14% of them. They are by far the most desired campus in the University of California system.
-- Olivia Jade Giannulli, daughter of Lori Louglin
https://www.etonline.com/lori-loughlins-daughter-olivia-said-she-didnt-really-care-about-school-before-heading-to-college
pass everybody now. In his day, you
got kicked out for bad grades.
Quote: EvenBobDershowitz says it works because they
pass everybody now. In his day, you
got kicked out for bad grades.
I'm in college right now, they will definitely still kick you out for bad grades.
Quote: EvenBobDershowitz says
Who cares what Dershowitz says
I see a story, I form my own opinions
On the other hand
Some posters cant form opinions and immediately go to Rush or Dershowitz
ROTFL
Quote: terapinedWho cares what Dershowitz says
Nobody, thats why he's on some
network everyday. because nobody
cares what he says.
He endorsed Hillary and Obama, campaigned against Trump, he supports strong gun control and wanted to repeal the 2nd amendment, and he's defended O.J., Jeffrey Epstein, and Harvey Weinstein.
Quote: TigerWuI'm in college right now,
The more you're paying, the more
lenient the academic probation is.
They want your money, they couldn't
care less if you learn anything.
Quote: RSNow a little bit of bribery is illegal? What has this world come to???
I dint know about you but I enjoy living in a country where bribery is illegal
Most parts of the world, bribery is standard operating procedure for everything
It really sucks and that's one of the things the world admires about the USA.
We try to be fair
Quote: EvenBobThe more you're paying, the more
lenient the academic probation is.
They want your money, they couldn't
care less if you learn anything.
It's community college, so I'm paying very little. One of my professors has already dropped a couple people this semester due to grades.
Quote: TigerWuI just read a little bit about Dershowitz.
He endorsed Hillary and Obama, campaigned against Trump, he supports strong gun control and wanted to repeal the 2nd amendment, and he's defended O.J., Jeffrey Epstein, and Harvey Weinstein.
He is also Jewish, so he is obviously questioning if he still has a place in today’s Democratic Party.
Quote: BozHe is also Jewish, so he is obviously questioning if he still has a place in today’s Democratic Party.
He doesn’t.
Quote: BozHe is also Jewish, so he is obviously questioning if he still has a place in today’s Democratic Party.
Probably.
Of the 37 Jewish people currently serving in Congress, 34 are Democrats.
Two are Republicans, and one is Independent.
Source
But to get back on topic, looks like there's over 50 people now involved in this scandal.
Quote: AyecarumbaI don't know about UT, but UCLA is a highly selective school. For the Fall of 2018, they received 113,755 Freshman applications and admitted 15,970, or 14% of them. They are by far the most desired campus in the University of California system.
Yea, but 90,000 of them were illegals...
Quote: AyecarumbaI don't know about UT, but UCLA is a highly selective school. For the Fall of 2018, they received 113,755 Freshman applications and admitted 15,970, or 14% of them. They are by far the most desired campus in the University of California system
Quote: WatchMeWinYea, but 90,000 of them were illegals...
Hehe... Actually, there's a state law preserving Obama's "Dreamer" program ignoring legal visa status for applicants who took their last couple years of school in California, no matter how they got there. So, could be...
Edit: To me, this is a classic example of supply and demand economics. I'm not surprised a "black white market" opened when the demand exceeds the supply by such a large margin.
Quote: AyecarumbaHehe... Actually, there's a state law preserving Obama's "Dreamer" program ignoring legal visa status for applicants who took their last couple years of school in California, no matter how they got there. So, could be...
It is ridiculous how so many people talk about the rich this and the rich that. Jealousy! We live in a country where the people who work smarter and harder can achieve great success regardless of race, religion, nationality, etc. Stop complaining people and just make it happen!
Quote: AZDuffmanWhy is this no real big surprise?
It is all a joke to those outside this little club. In one group you have mostly upper class whites but more than a few asian families dropping crazy amounts of cash to get their kids into the elite circle. The kids are just collecting activities at school to give a quantity that no normal person could do. All kinds of coaching to grind out that last 1% on the SAT and essay. All for this little game to fit in the keyhole just perfect.
Meanwhile the universities don't want so many whites and asians hanging around so they chase any minority they find and rig the system so they can get in without the school going before SCOTUS to defend discrimination based on race.
All the while once the kids get in to most of these schools they all end up with A or B grades in all their classes due to grade inflation.
The part of society enamored with paper laps it up year after year. Those of us who took the red pill laugh at them.
Geez. It doesn't matter what it is, you have to dump your bitter resentment all over it. Lighten up, for God's sake.
Quote: WatchMeWinIt is ridiculous how so many people talk about the rich this and the rich that. Jealousy! We live in a country where the people who work smarter and harder can achieve great success regardless of race, religion, nationality, etc. Stop complaining people and just make it happen!
Not a popular opinion around here with some. Bringing up Personal Responsibility and results of Life Choices subjects one to calls of racism, ignorance, being Unsympathetic to others and more.
Strange when we have a lot of highly financially successful members on here who have all made it in many different ways. One can only assume some of them feel they are “special” and the average American could never do what they did.
Quote: WatchMeWinIt is ridiculous how so many people talk about the rich this and the rich that. Jealousy! We live in a country where the people who work smarter and harder can achieve great success regardless of race, religion, nationality, etc. Stop complaining people and just make it happen!
You don't even have to work smart OR hard to get rich. Many rich people were just in the right place at the right time. And even working smart and hard is no guarantee you'll get rich anyway. And just because you make $10 million a year doesn't mean you've worked 200 times harder than the guy making $50,000 a year. So, really there's no rhyme or reason to it, other than if you do work smarter and harder you're probably more likely to end up wealthy.
But I agree there's too much complaining going on with rich and/or well-off people.
Quote: BozNot a popular opinion around here with some. Bringing up Personal Responsibility and results of Life Choices subjects one to calls of racism, ignorance, being Unsympathetic to others and more.
Strange when we have a lot of highly financially successful members on here who have all made it in many different ways. One can only assume some of them feel they are “special” and the average American could never do what they did.
I feel like this has been discussed before. It is what it is. I dont feel higher than anyone else. Ive made very poor decisions in my life. Ive been at the bottom of the ocean without anyone handing me a life jacket or oxygen tank. I made good things happen in my life all on my own. Hard work, dedication, more hard work, tenacity, smart approach... and good things come. Never leached on the system. Never took a hand out from anyone. Just worked extremely hard and figured how to make it happen on my own. (and this is not referring to craps... although that has been good too.. ha)
Ive seen just about everything. Our country is the greatest nation in the world. It is the land of opportunity. I have a great big heart and help those who need help constantly. I ask of nothing in return. I believe in the saying... give without expecting something in return, and you will never be disappointed.
Quote: beachbumbabsGeez. It doesn't matter what it is, you have to dump your bitter resentment all over it. Lighten up, for God's sake.
Resentment? I am smiling ear to ear over this thing. Little clubby system gets gamed. People who love the exclusivity game the same exclusivity. And they did it by paying a tax deductible contribution when they say they did not need their tax cut years ago.
When you thought that whole group was as shallow as they could be it turns out they drained even more out of the pool.
