2020 Election
Quote: AZDuffmanAnd we take in people who are persecuted. Too many, actually. Other nations need to step up.
... (snip )
Why yes, we do take in persecuted people. It's the law of the land. And it's the Christian thing to do, according to the Bible.
You don't like it, change the law. But while it stands, putting in more impediments and outright refusing to proceed with it are immoral and in some cases illegal.
Other nations have stepped up, many of them. According to this, we are 50th in acceptance rates.
So, as the:
3rd largest country by land area;
175th country by population density (less people/sqmi than 174 others);
and
4th richest country per person,
your (and Trump's) argument is full of s!#/. There's plenty of room. Plenty of resources. Plenty of everything.
Back to rx's challenge. People on here claim this is a Christian nation. What a joke. This is a racist and xenophobic country, at least those currently in power, not a Christian one.
The largest number of illegal immigrants are Asians overstaying their visas. Next highest are people coming in from the Canadian side. But let's attack the brown and black people coming in from S!#/hole countries, because that's what riles up the bigoted base and the Russian trolls enough to spool up the electorate.
Disgusting.
Quote: beachbumbabsWhy yes, we do take in persecuted people. It's the law of the land. And it's the Christian thing to do, according to the Bible.
You don't like it, change the law. But while it stands, putting in more impediments and outright refusing to proceed with it are immoral and in some cases illegal.
Other nations have stepped up, many of them. According to this, we are 50th in acceptance rates.
So, as the:
3rd largest country by land area;
175th country by population density (less people/sqmi than 174 others);
and
4th richest country per person,
your (and Trump's) argument is full of s!#/. There's plenty of room. Plenty of resources. Plenty of everything.
Back to rx's challenge. People on here claim this is a Christian nation. What a joke. This is a racist and xenophobic country, at least those currently in power, not a Christian one.
The largest number of illegal immigrants are Asians overstaying their visas. Next highest are people coming in from the Canadian side. But let's attack the brown and black people coming in from S!#/hole countries, because that's what riles up the bigoted base and the Russian trolls enough to spool up the electorate.
Disgusting.
I'm all for working to end ALL forms of illegal immigration and for reforming immigration to make acceptance available for immigrants of all races, colors, and creeds. Legal and managed immigration is fine.
"If there were no fence, if there were no border patrol agents, if there were no Immigration And Customs Enforcement (ICE), we would not be able to properly vet those trying to enter our country. It would be a huge national security risk. Congress needs to put in place short-term and long-term measures, like mandatory E-Verify, to make sure that we do secure our border and that we have systems that don’t attract people here, illegally, in such huge numbers."
--Mitt Romney
Quote: rxwineWell, I wouldn't support them being here forever without working. Trying to make them look worse doesn't impress me much. But thanks for trying.
(And the handicapped can work RS.)
So, the answer to WWJD, is Jesus would build a wall. Is that right Max?
Of course some handicapped can work. But according to the left....there are many people who have an IQ that is too low to get a job...and since allegedly there are going to be huge chunks of the population that won't be able to find a job in the future due to automation, we should step up on welfare, food stamps, and provide UBI for all who are unable or unwilling to work.
But please don't make ableist comments that infer they should have to work because that totally goes against my belief of UBI, welfare, stamps, etc. and I'm literally shaking.
Quote: beachbumbabs
Back to rx's challenge. People on here claim this is a Christian nation. What a joke. This is a racist and xenophobic country, at least those currently in power, not a Christian one.
Oh, my. People say Limbaugh is nuts when he says liberals/Democrats/etc hate the USA. Then a post like this. You want to see a racist nation? Go to Asia. You want xenophobic? Go to a muslim nation. Not wanting millions of people invading your country and changing your culture is not racist or xenophobic, it is normal.
Quote:The largest number of illegal immigrants are Asians overstaying their visas. Next highest are people coming in from the Canadian side. But let's attack the brown and black people coming in from S!#/hole countries, because that's what riles up the bigoted base and the Russian trolls enough to spool up the electorate.
Disgusting.
Yes, we keep seeing the border being stormed from the Canadian side. People keep paying Canadian coyotes to sneak across. I used to see it in WNY when I lived there. (sarcasm)
I have to believe if tomorrow Trump called for open borders that you would all of the sudden demand a wall. Please do not call the Trump side a "bigoted base." The Democrat side is as bigoted as anything out there.
Quote: RSOf course the handicapped can work. But according to the left....there are many people who have an IQ that is too low to get a job
"according to the left"
?????????????????
That includes me and I don't believe that
Quote: RS
...and since allegedly there are going to be huge chunks of the population that won't be able to find a job in the future due to automation
Glad you used allegedly
because
There will be plenty of jobs
Some people in 1950 thought with automation just starting, in 70 years what will people do for a living :-)
The future is here and of course plenty of jobs
Quote: terapined?????????????????
That includes me and I don't believe that
I'm not saying people with a low IQ can't get a job....that's the position of some on the left. I think almost everyone, including you, have the capability of getting a job, regardless of IQ. The exception would be for those who are severely retarded (obviously not you), like those who are basically strapped to a wheel chair and have to wear a helmet while chewing on a dog toy.
Quote: terapinedGlad you used allegedly
because
There will be plenty of jobs
Some people in 1950 thought with automation just starting, in 70 years what will people do for a living :-)
The future is here and of course plenty of jobs
That's what I've been saying. Times change and different jobs go out of style and new ones are needed. There will always be jobs. Of course, many on the left don't hold that position. They falsely equate technology & automation with job scarcity and thus want to push for more communal living & UBI.
Quote: RSI'm not saying people with a low IQ can't get a job....that's the position of some on the left.
Who "on the left" says low IQ people can't get a job?
Quote: RonCQuote: beachbumbabsWhy yes, we do take in persecuted people. It's the law of the land. And it's the Christian thing to do, according to the Bible.
You don't like it, change the law. But while it stands, putting in more impediments and outright refusing to proceed with it are immoral and in some cases illegal.
Other nations have stepped up, many of them. According to this, we are 50th in acceptance rates.
So, as the:
3rd largest country by land area;
175th country by population density (less people/sqmi than 174 others);
and
4th richest country per person,
your (and Trump's) argument is full of s!#/. There's plenty of room. Plenty of resources. Plenty of everything.
Back to rx's challenge. People on here claim this is a Christian nation. What a joke. This is a racist and xenophobic country, at least those currently in power, not a Christian one.
The largest number of illegal immigrants are Asians overstaying their visas. Next highest are people coming in from the Canadian side. But let's attack the brown and black people coming in from S!#/hole countries, because that's what riles up the bigoted base and the Russian trolls enough to spool up the electorate.
Disgusting.
I'm all for working to end ALL forms of illegal immigration and for reforming immigration to make acceptance available for immigrants of all races, colors, and creeds. Legal and managed immigration is fine.
"If there were no fence, if there were no border patrol agents, if there were no Immigration And Customs Enforcement (ICE), we would not be able to properly vet those trying to enter our country. It would be a huge national security risk. Congress needs to put in place short-term and long-term measures, like mandatory E-Verify, to make sure that we do secure our border and that we have systems that don’t attract people here, illegally, in such huge numbers."
--Mitt Romney
I don't disagree with this at all. There's a process for a reason, and I support it. That said, we should be finding ways to make the system work as.designed instead of cherry-picking by race and home country. The obstruction of the process of the last couple of years is a huge contributing factor to the backlog and the rise in people trying to enter illegally.
So many of them are out of money and/or time. And there's no question in my mind that the confusion, obfuscation,.and delays are deliberate. This Administration has slow-rolled the entire program in order to force this crisis and confrontation.
I say again, disgusting.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/candace-owens-nukes-the-democrats.php
Quote: FleaswatterHouse Democrats held a hearing today on white nationalism and hate crimes.
Its a real problem
People are dying
Quote: terapinedIts a real problem
People are dying
You should watch that video. Truly disgusting the racism on the left.
That’s just a fact.
Quote: MoosetonYou should watch that video. Truly disgusting the racism on the left.
really
Give me an example
Being bi-racial, certainly against any racism regardless of the politics of the racist
Quote: FleaswatterHouse Democrats held a hearing today on white nationalism and hate crimes.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/candace-owens-nukes-the-democrats.php
<3 Candace Owens
Quote: MoosetonJust watch the vid. She gave her real life examples.
You get a few seconds of my attention.
Life is short. Too short to watch videos that might be BS.
If your video goes viral, I may check it out.
Give me the readers digest version
Go for it. Give me an example of the left being racist.
Quote: terapinedYou get a few seconds of my attention.
Life is short. Too short to watch videos that might be BS.
If your video goes viral, I may check it out.
Give me the readers digest version
Go for it. Give me an example of the left being racist.
I can totally tell you lean left with as many times as you said "give me"....😀
Next, I know what people sound like when they don't blame people, and all I heard after how she virtued signal how she grew up not blaming people, she then went on a crankfest of blaming the democrats. .She sounds quite the professional blamer.
Quote: FleaswatterHouse Democrats held a hearing today on white nationalism and hate crimes.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/candace-owens-nukes-the-democrats.php
Quote: terapinedYou get a few seconds of my attention.
Life is short. Too short to watch videos that might be BS.
If your video goes viral, I may check it out.
Give me the readers digest version
Go for it. Give me an example of the left being racist.
Now you’re just being difficult. If you can’t even click a simple vid, why would I expect you to comprehend any response? Youre just being difficult for no valid reason. It’s too obvious.
Quote: MoosetonNow you’re just being difficult. If you can’t even click a simple vid, why would I expect you to comprehend any response? Youre just being difficult for no valid reason. It’s too obvious.
Ok. Iistened to 6 min of BS. Sigh, 6 min I will never get back.
I can disagree point by point.
So she maybe got chased out of a restaurant and it did not make the front pages
boo hoo
The people that chased her out were wrong if the incident is true
Expecting media coverage is absurd. What a cry baby. What a media whore expecting her story to get attention. too bad
I see this is what really makes her angry about the Restaurant "The leftist media remained silent"
She is really really really angry about the lack of coverage she is getting. Too bad. What a cry baby.
My take, she is upset she did not get the Heather Heyer attention. One was allegedly run out of a restaurant(wheres the video). One was run down and killed by a white supremacist. yea different coverage. That's the way it is
I agree some people overstaying their Visa's is a big problem(hot chicks not a problem). A problem we should work on. I don't know how it all works but I will just assume people who get Visa's go though some kind of vetting process? What kind of vetting do people crossing illegally go though?Quote: terapinedNot an invasion. Its just a problem of people over staying their Visa's. That's how the majority of illegals do it. Illegals crossing the border. small problem. The massive numbers becoming illegal by over staying a visa, big problem.
I was in California a few years ago. Flew out to see Dead and Company at the Forum in Inglewood for New Years. Yea, was surprised how run down the Forum was. Other then that, its a beautiful State. I don't get the feeling driving around its a sh$$hole. I would consider moving there but I love Florida.
I don't consider myself a victim and I lean left. Why?
I am not filled with hate and have compassion for those not as well off as me. Sh*t happens in everybody's lives, I feel fortunate to live comfortably with no major sh*t in my life.
Regarding abortion. Too me its a freedom issue. I get you are against it. Fine. Demand that all Christians cant get an abortion. I could care less.
I'm very comfortable regarding the future due to overwhelming majority of young people in this country lean left -)
Quote: RSOf course some handicapped can work. But according to the left....there are many people who have an IQ that is too low to get a job...and since allegedly there are going to be huge chunks of the population that won't be able to find a job in the future due to automation, we should step up on welfare, food stamps, and provide UBI for all who are unable or unwilling to work.
But please don't make ableist comments that infer they should have to work because that totally goes against my belief of UBI, welfare, stamps, etc. and I'm literally shaking.
Please stop speaking for the left. You don't. You (and others) set up strawmen and false positions just to knock them down. It's tiresome and rude. Speak for yourself and they'll speak for themselves - several of them here are very articulate.
Quote: SteverinosWho "on the left" says low IQ people can't get a job?
Jordan Peterson, rainman
Quote: beachbumbabsPlease stop speaking for the left. You don't. You (and others) set up strawmen and false positions just to knock them down. It's tiresome and rude. Speak for yourself and they'll speak for themselves - several of them here are very articulate.
I'm just saying what they're saying. Green New Deal anyone?
Edit: No chastising terapined for being rude?
Quote: terapinedI'm not a conservative. I don't defend stupid like many Trump supporters that do defend stupid statements. (Wind turbine noise causes cancer)
If Omar says something stupid, no way would I defend it . I'm not a conservative. I don't defend stupid.
I was assuming your post was regarding the Omar , Steven Miller quote. Yea I'm defending it because I have the same exact view.
Steven Miller is a white nationalist. I determine that by his actions and what he says. I totally agree with Omar on this subject
Now if you bring me something different regarding an Omar quote and I determine it to be stupid, I wont defend her because I'm not a conservative that defends stupid
Quote: RSI'm just saying what they're saying. Green New Deal anyone?
Shame on you for actually using their words and actions in an example!
Oh, and you just said "the left." You are supposed to go down every left leaning person like you had a phone book, and exclude those that do not have an exact viewpoint. One by one. Otherwise it is "generalization." That is only allowed when calling Trump supporters "racist."
(For those of you in Rio Linda, the above is humor using sarcasm.)
(For those of you who do not know what Rio Linda has to do with it, learn what Rio Linda has to do with it.)
Quote: RSI'm just saying what they're saying. Green New Deal anyone?
Edit: No chastising terapined for being rude?Quote: terapinedI'm not a conservative. I don't defend stupid like many Trump supporters that do defend stupid statements. (Wind turbine noise causes cancer)
If Omar says something stupid, no way would I defend it . I'm not a conservative. I don't defend stupid.
I was assuming your post was regarding the Omar , Steven Miller quote. Yea I'm defending it because I have the same exact view.
Steven Miller is a white nationalist. I determine that by his actions and what he says. I totally agree with Omar on this subject
Now if you bring me something different regarding an Omar quote and I determine it to be stupid, I wont defend her because I'm not a conservative that defends stupidEmphasis mine.
When Trump said that dumb stupid statement that wind turbine noise causes cancer
I expected conservatives on this board to ignore or dismiss that ignorant Trump statement
Instead to my amazement
Conservatives on this board were backing Trump and defending dumb.
Conservatives on this board strike me as extreme right
while
Libs on this board seem pretty mainstream such as we hate don't hate chic a fil while AZ falsely insists we do. lol
Quote: terapined
When Trump said that dumb stupid statement that wind turbine noise causes cancer
I expected conservatives on this board to ignore or dismiss that ignorant Trump statement
Instead to my amazement
Conservatives on this board were backing Trump and defending dumb.
That is because you do not think conservatives are informed. We are. We know that there are many problems with wind turbines. We think for ourselves. We can see how magnetic fields can cause health issues. We post our reasons, we do not say, "just listen to the scientists---FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD!"
Quote:Conservatives on this board strike me as extreme right
while
Libs on this board seem pretty mainstream such as we hate don't hate chic a fil while AZ falsely insists we do. lol
That is because you are so far left that you think leftist extremism is "normal."
If you were informed you would see how Chick-Fil-A is high on the liberal hate list. I cannot help it if you are so uninformed you do not see liberal cities and colleges trying to and succeeding in banning them.
Quote: AZDuffmanIf you were informed you would see how Chick-Fil-A is high on the liberal hate list. I cannot help it if you are so uninformed you do not see liberal cities and colleges trying to and succeeding in banning them.
At this point, your obsession with liberal views on Chick-Fil-A is becoming satirical. How many more threads will you spam with this nonsense?
I know plenty of libs who love them some nuggets from CFA.
Quote: ams288At this point, your obsession with liberal views on Chick-Fil-A is becoming satirical. How many more threads will you spam with this nonsense?
I know plenty of libs who love them some nuggets from CFA.
No obsession at all. Pointing out facts.
Better than having an obsession of some tape that does not exist yet insisting it is real. Or claiming some kind of Russian collusion. People that do that are not just spamming and trolling they are making jerks out of themselves.
Quote: AZDuffmanBetter than having an obsession of some tape that does not exist yet insisting it is real. Or claiming some kind of Russian collusion. People that do that are not just spamming and trolling they are making jerks out of themselves.
Maybe next time your party could nominate someone who doesn’t pay hookers to pee on his face and we won’t have to deal with this issue anymore!
Quote: ams288At this point, your obsession with liberal views on Chick-Fil-A is becoming satirical. How many more threads will you spam with this nonsense?
I know plenty of libs who love them some nuggets from CFA.
Chuckle
I don't hate Chic-a-fil yet AZ insists I do
Talk about bizarre
Reality is a few extreme libs are against Chic-a -fil. AZ takes a few and falsely turns it into an entire countrywide movement to ban chic-a-fil.
Its so absurd, its funny
He is still defending the Trump statement that wind turbine noise causes cancer
Chuckle. Thanks for the laughs AZ. Keep it up
Quote: ams288White nationalists are a MUCH greater threat to this country than immigrants crossing the border.
That’s just a fact.
Stupidest thing I've read all (fill in any time period you want....)
And I read a lot.....
Quote: SOOPOOStupidest thing I've read all (fill in any time period you want....)
And I read a lot.....
Keep on living in that right wing bubble...
Quote: ams288Maybe next time your party could nominate someone who doesn’t pay hookers to pee on his face and we won’t have to deal with this issue anymore!
Nice, trolling it up!
Quote: ams288Keep on living in that right wing bubble...
I live in no bubble. I live in the real world. I'm just right of center overall. Pro abortion rights. Pro marijuana legalization. Not a Trump voter. You are so far left anyone right of you you call right wing.
Quote: SOOPOOI live in no bubble. I live in the real world. I'm just right of center overall. Pro abortion rights. Pro marijuana legalization. Not a Trump voter. You are so far left anyone right of you you call right wing.
Blah blah blah.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/3/16/18268856/new-zealand-shooter-white-nationalism-united-states
Quote: RSNice, trolling it up!
Trolling it up with the facts.
It’s kind of amusing how triggered some of the Trumpsters get by his.... “extracurricular” activities.
Quote: SOOPOOStupidest thing I've read all (fill in any time period you want....)
And I read a lot.....
Its not stupid
And we ALL read a lot
Quote: terapinedIts not stupid
And we ALL read a lot
It is stupid.
Go find how many illegal aliens vs "right wing white nationalists" or whatever you want to call them are in prison. Get back to us when you get the numbers.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/04/10/llhan-omar-calls-911-terrorists-some-people-who-did-something-n2544560
Right up there with “something” happened in Hawaii on December 7th 1941.
Quote: ams288Maybe next time your party could nominate someone who doesn’t pay hookers to pee on his face and we won’t have to deal with this issue anymore!
Stop showing your envy. It’s not becoming of you.
Quote: BozStop showing your envy. It’s not becoming of you.
Who am I supposedly envious of in this scenario?
Quote: ams288Who am I supposedly envious of in this scenario?
The person peeing on him. You can’t tell me you wouldn’t enjoy doing it based on your statements toward our President of the United States.
Quote: BozNot sure if anyone heard about something happening on September 11 in New York back in 2001 but apparently “Some people did Something “.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/04/10/llhan-omar-calls-911-terrorists-some-people-who-did-something-n2544560
Right up where with “something” happened in Hawaii on December 7th 1941.
llhan omar is a racist thug
Quote: BozThe person peeing on him. You can’t tell me you wouldn’t enjoy doing it based on your statements toward our President of the United States.
Nah, I wouldn’t want to do that.
Donald would enjoy it too much!
The democrat's "house of cards" will be crashing down. Many of the "higher ups" in the Obama administration, should be afraid, very afraid.
Quote: FleaswatterAttorney General Barr during testimony to the senate has stated that he believes that spying had occurred on the Trump campaign. He also has initiated an investigation into the origins of the Trump Russia probe.
The democrat's "house of cards" will be crashing down. Many of the "higher ups" in the Obama administration, should be afraid, very afraid.
An investigation into the origins? Trump fired Comey because "he mishandled the Clinton investigation" and then on national television said he fired Comey because "Russia was a made up story." There's your origin and all it took was your own eyes and ears to absorb it.
Not sure we need an investigation into the investigation but this is standard operating procedure for the worst version of a political party this country has ever seen.
Quote: FleaswatterAttorney General Barr during testimony to the senate has stated that he believes that spying had occurred on the Trump campaign. He also has initiated an investigation into the origins of the Trump Russia probe.
yawn
I'm ok with any investigation
I'm not a conservative that is against investigations simply due to politics
Go ahead and investigate
Quote: Steverinos
Not sure we need an investigation into the investigation but this is standard operating procedure for the worst version of a political party this country has ever seen.
Yes, the Democrat Party is pretty awful. This silent coup attempt is just the latest.
