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August 4th, 2026 at 12:17:21 PM permalink
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Aint eaten a bit so far today. I drink first my honey-sweetened espresso (on empty stomach). it washes away most aches and pains and numbness. then eating cereal with lots of seeds. when hot i drink beer, when cooler drink wine.
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Why seeds? I'd like to understand.
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Pumpkin seeds: rich in vitamin B17
Sunflower seeds: rich in vitamin B15
both vitamins banned in USA.
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Nuts and seeds are a big part of my diet every day. They are called superfoods for a reason. I take all the ones I eat and measure them into a food processor and then measure out a certain amount in the morning and mix it with olive oil and make a paste and I don't believe in sin, but I feel like I'm sinning when I eat this it is so good and it's so good for you. These are the main ingredients in pesto just leaving out the green stuff. Extremely high in calories but I don't eat much.
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August 5th, 2026 at 12:22:55 AM permalink
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Aint eaten a bit so far today. I drink first my honey-sweetened espresso (on empty stomach). it washes away most aches and pains and numbness. then eating cereal with lots of seeds. when hot i drink beer, when cooler drink wine.
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Why seeds? I'd like to understand.
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Pumpkin seeds: rich in vitamin B17
Sunflower seeds: rich in vitamin B15
both vitamins banned in USA.
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Nuts and seeds are a big part of my diet every day. They are called superfoods for a reason. I take all the ones I eat and measure them into a food processor and then measure out a certain amount in the morning and mix it with olive oil and make a paste and I don't believe in sin, but I feel like I'm sinning when I eat this it is so good and it's so good for you. These are the main ingredients in pesto just leaving out the green stuff. Extremely high in calories but I don't eat much.
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I agree 110%. it's so good for everybody.
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August 5th, 2026 at 7:55:28 AM permalink
My wife made Salisbury steak meatballs last night. Th meatballs were typical but the gravy was excellent.

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August 5th, 2026 at 8:11:10 AM permalink
Are they different from Swedish meatballs?
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August 8th, 2026 at 3:03:58 AM permalink
Are you skipping the lettuce, anybody? Of course I'm thinking of the Cyclospora

I've thought of skipping it if ordering a sub that uses the chopped up stuff, but the other day ordered one from Jersey Mike's and forgot all about it . There doesn't seem to be reports in the local news that there is a problem around here, btw.

At home, it's homegrown tomato season and time for BLTs ... ain't no way I'm skipping the lettuce, being the L in that and essential.* We use Romaine, though, which I can believe gets better treatment than others. And I have a theory that they know the most likely problem is chopped up stuff with maybe some restaurants using some that's too old. They may know it and not want to say it in case they are wrong, and it turns out it's the Romaine that OG is counting on that's bad LOL

* mayo is essential in my book too, but it's not called a BLTM for some reason
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August 8th, 2026 at 5:03:22 AM permalink
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Are you skipping the lettuce, anybody? Of course I'm thinking of the Cyclospora
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Personally, no. I do get bagged salads often, because I'm absurdly lazy. I have since found out that my usual supplier was affected. I have not noticed any particular health effects.

Maybe I just got lucky, or maybe I was saved when I noticed an unusual taste and discarded it after half a bite. I definitely discard any unused salad mix when I notice it starts to turn brown or soupy, usually 2 days before the "best by" date.

Ashly, on the other hand, had a bad run in with lettuce from a sandwich shop about 10 years ago, and still can't eat any kind of lettuce at all.
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August 8th, 2026 at 5:52:04 AM permalink
Once or twice a month, I'll have lettuce on my Whopper, but I'm skipping salads for the duration. I skipped the lettuce on my last gyro, and it didn't detract from the taste much.
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August 8th, 2026 at 9:52:27 AM permalink
There does seem to be a lot of disease traced to iceberg lettuce, and it has so little nutritional value you're not missing much by skipping it. Chard, spinach, kale, mustard green, collard, dandelion all are a better choice, and at least one of those things you will surely like more than lettuce.
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August 8th, 2026 at 11:21:02 AM permalink
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Are they different from Swedish meatballs?
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I am not an expert but these Salisbury steak meatballs taste like traditional meatballs, I think it is the gravy that makes it Salisbury. I prefer Swedish meatballs but like both.
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August 8th, 2026 at 11:41:01 AM permalink
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Are you skipping the lettuce, anybody? Of course I'm thinking of the Cyclospora
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Personally, no. I do get bagged salads often, because I'm absurdly lazy. I have since found out that my usual supplier was affected. I have not noticed any particular health effects.

Maybe I just got lucky, or maybe I was saved when I noticed an unusual taste and discarded it after half a bite. I definitely discard any unused salad mix when I notice it starts to turn brown or soupy, usually 2 days before the "best by" date.

Ashly, on the other hand, had a bad run in with lettuce from a sandwich shop about 10 years ago, and still can't eat any kind of lettuce at all.
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Back in the 80s wendy's introduced the salad bar in their restaurants and the first time I got it when I was driving taxi I almost didn't make it home before it hit. I thought it was a fluke and the next time I got it I barely made it to the next Mcdonald's bathroom. That might be the last time I ate at any fast food restaurant.
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August 8th, 2026 at 12:21:35 PM permalink
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Ashly, on the other hand, had a bad run in with lettuce from a sandwich shop about 10 years ago, and still can't eat any kind of lettuce at all.
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Back in the 80s wendy's introduced the salad bar in their restaurants and the first time I got it when I was driving taxi I almost didn't make it home before it hit. I thought it was a fluke and the next time I got it I barely made it to the next Mcdonald's bathroom. That might be the last time I ate at any fast food restaurant.
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Ashly has decided that the easiest way to explain it at restaurants is now "no lettuce - I have a lettuce allergy". This gets to the desired outcome with minimal gruesome detail. Lettuce won't make her unable to breathe, but it will wreck the rest of her day.

While it may have started with a contamination issue, she now can't handle clean garden grown lettuces.

As for driving, I've certainly been there. I find it helpful to get some popcorn to soak up that sloshy feeling. Sometimes stopping and waiting it out isn't a great option, but the absorbent starch - popcorn or rice, for me - does seem to offer some relief.
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August 8th, 2026 at 1:43:24 PM permalink
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Are you skipping the lettuce, anybody? Of course I'm thinking of the Cyclospora
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Personally, no. I do get bagged salads often, because I'm absurdly lazy. I have since found out that my usual supplier was affected. I have not noticed any particular health effects.

Maybe I just got lucky, or maybe I was saved when I noticed an unusual taste and discarded it after half a bite. I definitely discard any unused salad mix when I notice it starts to turn brown or soupy, usually 2 days before the "best by" date.

Ashly, on the other hand, had a bad run in with lettuce from a sandwich shop about 10 years ago, and still can't eat any kind of lettuce at all.
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Back in the 80s wendy's introduced the salad bar in their restaurants and the first time I got it when I was driving taxi I almost didn't make it home before it hit. I thought it was a fluke and the next time I got it I barely made it to the next Mcdonald's bathroom. That might be the last time I ate at any fast food restaurant.
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I've always liked salad bars and never got sick at one. Sickest I ever got from a restaurant was an AYCE Chinese buffet. I fouled my own car and was quite mad about it.

But I've never gotten sick on a cruise ship, even when traveling with other people who did.
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August 8th, 2026 at 8:56:30 PM permalink
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There does seem to be a lot of disease traced to iceberg lettuce, and it has so little nutritional value you're not missing much by skipping it. Chard, spinach, kale, mustard green, collard, dandelion all are a better choice, and at least one of those things you will surely like more than lettuce.
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I like lettuce (romaine) because it makes for a more enjoyable meal than a bowl of just croutons, bacon bits, pepper, and olive oil.
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August 8th, 2026 at 10:06:50 PM permalink
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Are you skipping the lettuce, anybody? Of course I'm thinking of the Cyclospora
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Personally, no. I do get bagged salads often, because I'm absurdly lazy. I have since found out that my usual supplier was affected. I have not noticed any particular health effects.

Maybe I just got lucky, or maybe I was saved when I noticed an unusual taste and discarded it after half a bite. I definitely discard any unused salad mix when I notice it starts to turn brown or soupy, usually 2 days before the "best by" date.

Ashly, on the other hand, had a bad run in with lettuce from a sandwich shop about 10 years ago, and still can't eat any kind of lettuce at all.
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Back in the 80s wendy's introduced the salad bar in their restaurants and the first time I got it when I was driving taxi I almost didn't make it home before it hit. I thought it was a fluke and the next time I got it I barely made it to the next Mcdonald's bathroom. That might be the last time I ate at any fast food restaurant.
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I've always liked salad bars and never got sick at one. Sickest I ever got from a restaurant was an AYCE Chinese buffet. I fouled my own car and was quite mad about it.

But I've never gotten sick on a cruise ship, even when traveling with other people who did.
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I just ate a salad bar this week with my wife. I cherry tomatoes shiitake mushrooms cucumber red onion hard boiled eggs and cottage cheese. I have never gotten lettuce at a salad bar since my incidents in the 1980s. Years ago I knew a guy who was a health inspector for the county and his advice was never eat anything in a restaurant that isn't hot. Not a salad bar not a sandwich not a potato chip. He said if it's hot you're never going to get sick. Most of the time.
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August 9th, 2026 at 4:40:11 AM permalink
you can definitely make a salad without lettuce

lettuce has minimal nutritional value as well. In particular it doesn't provide the fiber people think it does .... it's basically just mostly water, with a modest bit of nutrients
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August 9th, 2026 at 7:03:51 PM permalink
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you can definitely make a salad without lettuce

lettuce has minimal nutritional value as well. In particular it doesn't provide the fiber people think it does .... it's basically just mostly water, with a modest bit of nutrients
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I once had something called a Jello salad. It was lime Jello with shredded cabbage and marshmallows. That item should be outlawed by the Geneva convention.
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August 9th, 2026 at 7:36:31 PM permalink
Nice to know my diet of grilled or roasted poultry, canned fruits and veggies, PBJ on wheat and fried egg sandwiches for breakfast and baked confections for desert is actually saving my life and is ahead of the curve...
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August 9th, 2026 at 8:59:01 PM permalink
The kids decided I should take Ashly out for seafood yesterday. She got a 10 pound feast "for 4" and ate it. She did give me a shrimp, and the kids each got a few bites of mussels and crab. She hoarded the lobster, as usual. (I got some chicken & broccoli.)

Tonight was grilling steak (flatiron), corn, and mushrooms & onions. Just lovely.
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August 9th, 2026 at 10:20:52 PM permalink
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you can definitely make a salad without lettuce

lettuce has minimal nutritional value as well. In particular it doesn't provide the fiber people think it does .... it's basically just mostly water, with a modest bit of nutrients
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I once had something called a Jello salad. It was lime Jello with shredded cabbage and marshmallows. That item should be outlawed by the Geneva convention.
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Did you visit 1958 in a time warp
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