Nathan's Corner

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So, at my local Casino, I ended up making the mistake of asking the SAME person twice to play on my Player's Club Card
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It was the act of asking that caught their attention.

All casinos have rules against playing on someone else's player card. As long as the person whose card someone is using has granted permission and doesn't complain, it remains just a casino rule violation.

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Quote: Nathan

So, at my local Casino, I ended up making the mistake of asking the SAME person twice to play on my Player's Club Card
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It was the act of asking that caught their attention.

All casinos have rules against playing on someone else's player card. As long as the person whose card someone is using has granted permission and doesn't complain, it remains just a casino rule violation.
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I don't get how I didn't remember that I already asked the first guy to let me play on his card. The second guy let me play with his card in the machine. It was at the second machine where the guy agreed to play on my machine I got approached by the three Casino Staff Members, warned, and then trespassed for 24 hours.

As with any scheme, most push it until they can't. Quitting while ahead sounds good but doesn't usually happen. I'm trying to do that myself right now with regards to casino play - haven't played at all since the last Vegas trip. Here in Tahoe there are plenty of casinos but I haven't bothered.

Tahoe isn't really set up for high end play anyway. Caesars Tahoe used to allow it - they would set up special tables for special limits players without the need for that player to set up a whole new credit line at the Tahoe property, but with Harrah's/Harvey's you have to set everything up at this property, and I don't play or want to play in Tahoe anyway. It's something like if you walked into Harrah's Vegas and wanted to play $250K a hand at Baccarat - they'd just refer you across the street to Caesars. So if you wanted to play REALLY big in Tahoe, they'd just say (these days especially, when Tahoe doesn't even get much action, period), just take it easy here, and save your big play for Vegas.

I am at another Casino that does Bingo, hopefully I win Bingo at the second Casino. :) I REALLY blew my chances to win Bingo at the first Casino. :(

Win...how (at this other casino)? By asking more people to let you slide your card in there while they are playing?

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Win...how (at this other casino)? By asking more people to let you slide your card in there while they are playing?
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The second Casino that does Bingo is a free Bingo where points are not needed. I WON Bingo at the second Casino. :) Besides , I am permanently done asking Players to play on my card. I got a temporary ban for doing that, learned my lesson permanently.

I didn't get my picture taken and didn't sign any papers, they just told me,"We're going to ask you to leave for 24 hours." Will my temporary ban end up in OSN? Will I get any papers sent to my house? :/

Quote: Nathan

I WON Bingo at the second Casino. :) Besides , I am permanently done asking Players to play on my card. I got a temporary ban for doing that, learned my lesson permanently.
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Just curious, What sort of money was this bingo win worth? $10, $50, $100, $500?

How did the scheme work?
You say you were asking players to play on your card ( which makes sense from a points gathering angle ) But in an ealier post you said YOU were playing on their card. What's that about?

Quote: Nathan

...the first guy to let me play on his card. The second guy let me play with his card in the machine.
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Surely, that way you are giving him points?

You ask a non-carded stranger to play a slot on your card so you could accrue points???? But you say 'the second casino' didn't need points to get the free bingo?
Please explain the scheme as it operates in both casinos separately because I'm not seeing the advantage. I can see an advantage to having someone adding points on your card, but where's the bingo come into it? Especially at 'the other casino'

Now, maybe it's how your mind works, but walking up to multiple strangers and asking them to accrue points on your card is really rather lame and not much different to pan-handling for loose change, or asking if you can press the buttons for them. It's a wonder you haven't been caught or reported many times. Don't slots have a 'call attendant' button? Such behaviour is exactly what surveillance are looking for. Not just what they hear, but the sidling up to strangers . Your future behaviour is going to have to be impeccable to avoid getting permanently banned. It's not 'the done thing' to sidle up to strangers wagering their hard earned cash and asking them for anything. You're lucky none was spooked in reporting you for being a creepy hustler of worse sorts.

Quote: Nathan

I didn't get my picture taken and didn't sign any papers, they just told me,"We're going to ask you to leave for 24 hours." Will my temporary ban end up in OSN? Will I get any papers sent to my house? :/
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Not this time. But the surveillance team might have your description, which might upset you if you read the memo. They have plenty of pictures of you from the eye in the sky.

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I WON Bingo at the second Casino. :) Besides , I am permanently done asking Players to play on my card. I got a temporary ban for doing that, learned my lesson permanently.
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Just curious, What sort of money was this bingo win worth? $10, $50, $100, $500?

How did the scheme work?
You say you were asking players to play on your card ( which makes sense from a points gathering angle ) But in an ealier post you said YOU were playing on their card. What's that about?

Quote: Nathan

...the first guy to let me play on his card. The second guy let me play with his card in the machine.
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Surely, that way you are giving him points?

You ask a non-carded stranger to play a slot on your card so you could accrue points???? But you say 'the second casino' didn't need points to get the free bingo?
Please explain the scheme as it operates in both casinos separately because I'm not seeing the advantage. I can see an advantage to having someone adding points on your card, but where's the bingo come into it? Especially at 'the other casino'

Now, maybe it's how your mind works, but walking up to multiple strangers and asking them to accrue points on your card is really rather lame and not much different to pan-handling for loose change, or asking if you can press the buttons for them. It's a wonder you haven't been caught or reported many times. Don't slots have a 'call attendant' button? Such behaviour is exactly what surveillance are looking for. Not just what they hear, but the sidling up to strangers . Your future behaviour is going to have to be impeccable to avoid getting permanently banned. It's not 'the done thing' to sidle up to strangers wagering their hard earned cash and asking them for anything. You're lucky none was spooked in reporting you for being a creepy hustler of worse sorts.
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I am a second Tier at the first Casino. With second Tier, I get one free Bingo card. Each Bingo card is 25 points or about $150 coin in. The maximum is five Bingo cards. So I would have to earn 4 extra Bingo cards to get the maximum amount, or $125 coin in. The second guy actually earned me enough for one more Bingo card, but it was invalidated due to me being banned for 24 hours. The Casino Staff warned me if I ever asked Players to play on my card again, I'd be permanently trespassed. They were actually pretty lenient, considering the fact another Woman said she let her HUSBAND collect her free play at another Casino and her Player's Club Card privileges were permanently revoked. Ouch. Weird thing is, her Husband only collected about $300 in free play, he didn't even redeem $1,200.

I was lucky I didn't get my Player's Club Card privileges permanently revoked, just got a temporary 24 hour ban. The second Casino, everybody gets a free Bingo, no points required. I won $300 in free play on Bingo. :)

The fact you won $300 of Fp is nice, but pure luck. You are hustling pennies and sound like you are making a nuisance of. Yourself. Would you like being hustled like that when trying to chill out playing slots minding your own business.so the bit where you said you played his card was a mistake?

Quote: Nathan

I didn't get my picture taken and didn't sign any papers, they just told me,"We're going to ask you to leave for 24 hours." Will my temporary ban end up in OSN? Will I get any papers sent to my house? :/
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99.99999999999999999999% not and no.

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The fact you won $300 of Fp is nice, but pure luck. You are hustling pennies and sound like you are making a nuisance of. Yourself. Would you like being hustled like that when trying to chill out playing slots minding your own business.so the bit where you said you played his card was a mistake?
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Where did I say that I played someone's card by mistake? :/ The mistake I made was asking say someone named Steve if he could play on my card. Steve responded something like,"No thanks, I'm REALLY not comfortable with playing on complete Strangers Player's Club Cards. A few minutes later, I asked Steve AGAIN, forgetting I already asked him to play on my Player's Club Card. Steve responded,"You already asked me." I can't believe I completely forgot I already asked Steve to play on my card. I went to a person I'll call Robert and asked Robert if he could play on my Player's Club Card. Robert was like,"Sure, I don't mind," and let me do it.."Robert earned me enough points for a second Bingo card, but my Bingos were invalidated because I was approached by three Casino Staff Members and asked to leave for 24 hours.

I am permanently done asking complete Strangers to play on my Player's Club Card after getting a 24 hour ban for doing just that.

I remember telling you that you’d get booted if you kept doing this.

I suppose you’d ask only people not playing with their own cards already inserted into the machine? Did the scheme work better asking men or women?

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.... asked the first guy to let me play on his card. ... The second guy let me play with his card in the machine.link to original post

That's the mistake I was referring to. You said you played on his card. You said it twice in one post.
It seems you meant He played on your card, not YOU played on his card. Two totally different things.

You play on his card > His card inserted into the machine you are playing > He gets points on his card.
He plays on your card > Your card inserted into the machine he is playing > You get points on your card.

I'm not saying what you DID was a mistake, though it was bad judgement. I'm saying what you posted seems to have had a mistake. Can you see it now?

Seriously, had MDawg already warned you about this stunt? It's hardly rocket science to realise the risk.

Have you REALLY learned your lesson?

I hope so.

I do want to pipe in here now that I am back.

Nathan gets other gamblers to play on her card. That is an AP move and in fact my first official one. It's how I got started from being homeless and penniless. By letting others bankroll my offers.

1) Nathan's main mistake was to just ask. There is an art to it and she was going about it artlessly(asking the same person twice even).

The art is to do a dry hustle variation. Engage the person friendly first. Strike up a conversation. If they don't want to be bothered move on without asking. If they are really friendly (slots are a solo exercise. You will be surprised how many people want a friend to chat with) become their "new friend" and THEN say "hey, I see you aren't using a players card. If you don't want the points you are earning may I use mine?" If they say yes, continue the excitement. If not, they just lost their new best friend.

And yes, I used the word excitement for a purpose. You need to get them excited. Play up their gambling. If you see two bonus symbols whoop and then act supremely disappointed if the 3rd doesn't hit. High five when the bonus hits. Make exciting predictions. Get them to WANT you to use your card in their machine

Anyway that's how you do it. And definitely don't do it right in front of a casino worker. That's just AP 101.

2) the people who pointed out Nathan's win loss showed a loss aren't getting the full picture. She showed a monetary loss generated by other people's cash. That earned her $1000+ in freeplay. Assuming all the losses belonged to other people and the freeplay was hers she turned a profit. Showing a loss to the casino while actually turning a profit is actually a holy grail AP move akin to ratholing but with less likelihood of getting noticed by upstairs bean counters.

3) freeplay Showing up on win/loss. As noted that's unusual. However Nathan says a lot of freeplay can be earned by winning these bingo games on the regular. For IRS purposes freeplay earned through play is a non-reportable rebate (up to the amount of losses).

Winning freeplay through a bingo game would be reportable income since it's not a rebate but a prize. I suspect that's the purpose of Showing it.

4) morally reprehensible? Seems a lot of people think so. But I argue it's less so than vulturing ultimate X. There you are waiting for some poor snook who doesn't know better to leave WHAT HE PAID FOR BEHIND so you can grab it and profit from it.

A player who prefers unrated action is aware of what he is leaving behind and if he is willing to let someone else scoop up what he is earning (and leaving behind anyway) that's a lot less morally reprehensible than waiting like a vulture looking for prey.

As a kid, I would ask adults to take me into R rated films, horror films I wanted to see at 9, 10, 12 years old etc. One time the attendant refused because she saw me approach the clientele a few times before finding someone to buy the ticket. I really see "Point Hustling", a subset of comp Hustling as no bigger deal.

Well if it’s no more of a low end scheme than what D.Oz does it must be okay. But it does amount to pan handling and at a minimum is against casino rules.

At least in Nevada there are actually criminal statutes against pan handling in certain situations and “chip hustling” in a Vegas casino may result in more than just a ban - could land your butt in jail.

I mentioned all of the above to Nathan a few months ago.

The big hotels and casinos pay a lot of muscle to make sure high rollers like MDawg don't have even momentary hassles with "undesirables." Security in a place like the Wynn is super tense and strict. Probably a third of the people on the floor at a given time are either shills or watchdogs. Public drunks and known hustlers are dealt with instantly - hustled out to the parking lot by Secret Service type thugs and given an impersonal lecture about the cost of dental work and of trying to make a living with two broken arms.

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But it does amount to pan handling and at a minimum is against casino rules.

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I have yet to find ANY Advantage Play move that is within strict casino rules.

Even hawking for must hits can get you thrown out of some places.

Basically if it's advantageous for the player, you can bet your heinie it's against casino rules.

Perhaps loss rebates may be within the rules but even then if you use it with Advantage they kick you out look at Don Johnson.

I believe you MDawg, have stated you also gamble with an advantage and are quite secretive about how it works. Let me guess -- if the casino understood what your advantage is, they would kick you out or disallow it as well.

My point is it's not necessary to disparage this or that AP as against casino rules when they all are.

24 hour ban is over! :D

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I do want to pipe in here now that I am back.
2) the people who pointed out Nathan's win loss showed a loss aren't getting the full picture. She showed a monetary loss generated by other people's cash. That earned her $1000+ in freeplay. Assuming all the losses belonged to other people and the freeplay was hers she turned a profit.

Nathan's reason for showing the WL was to demonstrate that she is now playing higher stakes, not getting others to expand her action.

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4) morally reprehensible? Seems a lot of people think so.

Not morally wrong, because who cares. AP's either take advantage of the casino or it's other patrons. Indirectly both.

Good explanation of how to execute the shpiel. Nice one.

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24 hour ban is over! :D
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Best behaviour now..... They will be watching you closer. Be little miss boring. Get the eye in the sky guy bored and falling asleep.

Also, there's no rule that says you have to gamble every day. If you visit today and you are not points hustling, are you there just to lose the house edge and get sucked into their latest marketing ploy.?

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24 hour ban is over! :D
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Best behaviour now..... They will be watching you closer. Be little miss boring. Get the eye in the sky guy bored and falling asleep.

Also, there's no rule that says you have to gamble every day. If you visit today and you are not points hustling, are you there just to lose the house edge and get sucked into their latest marketing ploy.?
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I have free play that is expiring at that Casino. :)

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I have free play that is expiring at that Casino. :)
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And it will pay your bus fare? Or will you dump your own cash to spin the session out?

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I have free play that is expiring at that Casino. :)
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And it will pay your bus fare? Or will you dump your own cash to spin the session out?
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My bus fare is already prepaid. :)

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Nathan's reason for showing the WL was to demonstrate that she is now playing higher stakes, not getting others to expand her action.

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Yes I understand. Someone above noted the loss and took that as Nathan losing even with an advantage. I felt I needed to clarify the document would show a loss when profit had actually been achieved.

IMO the amount of freeplay proves the claim of higher wagers. Close to $1500 in freeplay would be unattainable at a penny per spin (I usually button mash at $5 per spin to generate any significant amounts.)

Whether other people are doing the higher wagers qualifies as Nathan doing it is a matter of argument. But I am not certain that is what she is referring to

Nathan will have to explain but it's possible she is referring to the FREEPLAY wagers as proof of her Making $50 roulette spins. And while rare these days some places allow for freeplay to be used on E-roulette.

I note she appears to be mixing her gambling play (slots with roulette) but freeplay turned over on e-roulette would account for that.

I personally know of two locations myself that allow it. And a $50 doey/don't on RBGG($24 black $24 red $1 each green) would actually be a 2nd AP move eliminate fluctuations in turnover.

That is all supposition on my part based on her mixed messaging. It's possible she is telling the truth is what I am saying. She needs to clarify the whole freeplay and roulette at $50 a spin comments

Bingo would be my game at a hall with less than 100 players and if there's $300 in free play prizes to be had, just win 4 or 5 of those over several weeks and you've got a pile of free play added up. She gets a free Bingo card for being 2nd tier at one place. She was trying to get free Bingo cards at another place. It can cost $100 to get those electronic card machines for an afternoon, so maybe she just gets a Bingo sheet with a dauber. You just get better odds with more cards, maybe not much depending on the crowd size.

Bingo wins of $600 or more are generally given a tax form (I guess). Free play as a prize is a different beast. Say you win $5,000 in free play as a grand jackpot in Bingo one night. Would there be a tax form? I think not? They just put the free play on your card and you can figure out the tax forms if you win a $1,200 jackpot at a slot machine.

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Decade ago my downstairs neighbors showed me a closet FILLED with casino giveaways. They gave me some of the upscale chocolates. Lots of unopened pots and pans, flashlights, knife sets, etc…. My friend said something like ‘if you lose $10k there they give you stuff….’
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Years ago Harrah's Laughlin used to give my wife lots of "decent" gifts. More purses than I can count (mainly middle class stuff like Dooney & Burke and Coach. Not Louis Vuitton). They also gave $1000's in Macy's gift cards that the wife liked. Her average daily coin in was around $50,000 so they assumed she was a high roller.

I spoke to one of the Casino Staff that asked me to leave yesterday for a 24 hour ban and apologized for it. He was like,"No problem, as long as you know that asking random people to play on your cards in order to get promotions, points, giveaways, comps, and free play is against Casino policy., rules, and regulations. " I was like,"I'm definitely never going to ask random people to play on my Player's Club Card again!" He was like,"That's good to hear." :)

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Decade ago my downstairs neighbors showed me a closet FILLED with casino giveaways. They gave me some of the upscale chocolates. Lots of unopened pots and pans, flashlights, knife sets, etc…. My friend said something like ‘if you lose $10k there they give you stuff….’
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Years ago Harrah's Laughlin used to give my wife lots of "decent" gifts. More purses than I can count (mainly middle class stuff like Dooney & Burke and Coach. Not Louis Vuitton). They also gave $1000's in Macy's gift cards that the wife liked. Her average daily coin in was around $50,000 so they assumed she was a high roller.
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That IS a high roller.

I found two vouchers I forgot I had, equaling about $22. :) I'm going to play about half, I promise to God. :)

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Decade ago my downstairs neighbors showed me a closet FILLED with casino giveaways. They gave me some of the upscale chocolates. Lots of unopened pots and pans, flashlights, knife sets, etc…. My friend said something like ‘if you lose $10k there they give you stuff….’
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Years ago Harrah's Laughlin used to give my wife lots of "decent" gifts. More purses than I can count (mainly middle class stuff like Dooney & Burke and Coach. Not Louis Vuitton). They also gave $1000's in Macy's gift cards that the wife liked. Her average daily coin in was around $50,000 so they assumed she was a high roller.
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That IS a high roller.
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But it isn't. You do that one day a year and for the whole year you are labelled a $50,000 a day player and get all the perks that someone who is doing it regularly gets. We would play a 99% payback game so our loss averaged $500 and we would get great trips and prizes from the casino. They would fly us for free to any Harrah's location and put us up for however long we wanted in a suite and we would only gamble the free play they would give us. We would average about $600 a week in freeplay and the wife would get all sorts of great free gifts. We did that for about 10 years.

Oncedear pointed out that I said,"The second guy let me play with his card in the machine. " I meant to say,"The second guy let me play with my card in his machine." By the time I realized I accidentally worded it wrong, it was far too late to edit.

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I found two vouchers I forgot I had, equaling about $22. :) I'm going to play about half, I promise to God. :)
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I'm just curious. Getting to know you. You be You.

A) Why?
B) Will you just play them through once, or will you grind them to $0 (That's my guess)
C) How will you pass the time away when that's spent? Wandering the casino taking in the ambience? Or home for an early night?

How about you regale us with a walkthru: A description of a day in the life, particularly describing your daily 'trip report'

E.g. something like "Left work at 6pm. Went home and changed into my civvies: Grabbed a meal deal sandwich: Then bussed to the casino for 7:30 : Went in and put my $11 voucher in [insert slot of choice]: Played that at 10c a spin for ten minutes: Cashed out $6. Played [insert slot name] at 10c hoping to get it up to $10: Lost the lot. Wandered round looking for security for 5 minutes: Found Security guy and told him I hadn't broken any rules today: Saw 'Robert' again: Told him that I wasn't going to ask him to play on my card today: He said 'ok' : Then caught the bus home: Quick shower and in bed by 10. Said my prayers and asleep by 10:15 : Dreamed about Lottery numbers 6,9,5 for tomorrows entry [boxed].

See, that's just an example of how I imagine your day. If you report your day differently, we get to know you better. It will be at least as interesting as many other trip reports.

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Decade ago my downstairs neighbors showed me a closet FILLED with casino giveaways. They gave me some of the upscale chocolates. Lots of unopened pots and pans, flashlights, knife sets, etc…. My friend said something like ‘if you lose $10k there they give you stuff….’
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Years ago Harrah's Laughlin used to give my wife lots of "decent" gifts. More purses than I can count (mainly middle class stuff like Dooney & Burke and Coach. Not Louis Vuitton). They also gave $1000's in Macy's gift cards that the wife liked. Her average daily coin in was around $50,000 so they assumed she was a high roller.
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That IS a high roller.
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But it isn't. You do that one day a year and for the whole year you are labelled a $50,000 a day player and get all the perks that someone who is doing it regularly gets. We would play a 99% payback game so our loss averaged $500 and we would get great trips and prizes from the casino. They would fly us for free to any Harrah's location and put us up for however long we wanted in a suite and we would only gamble the free play they would give us. We would average about $600 a week in freeplay and the wife would get all sorts of great free gifts. We did that for about 10 years.
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If you are good for $50,000 per day coin in marketing will have you on their radar. They will estimate your regular frequency and if you are off of it the phone will start ringing with offers. You are a high roller at that level as your expected loss is going to be $5-10,000. You are by no means a whale at that level, bit you are a high roller in the top 1% pf players at most places.

Some people play VERY low amounts at Blackjack when the pit boss isn't around, and when the pit boss is around, they play VERY high amounts so that the pit boss will rate them as a high roller so they get better Comps/free play. Some people question the morale of doing that.

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Some people play VERY low amounts at Blackjack when the pit boss isn't around, and when the pit boss is around, they play VERY high amounts so that the pit boss will rate them as a high roller so they get better Comps/free play. Some people question the morale of doing that.
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I don't question the morality, just the effectiveness.

I've lost track of how many times I've seen a floor supervisor ask the dealer "How much was he betting?" after someone leaves the table.

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Some people play VERY low amounts at Blackjack when the pit boss isn't around, and when the pit boss is around, they play VERY high amounts so that the pit boss will rate them as a high roller so they get better Comps/free play. Some people question the morale of doing that.
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I don't question the morality, just the effectiveness.

I've lost track of how many times I've seen a floor supervisor ask the dealer "How much was he betting?" after someone leaves the table.
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I've heard some casinos actually have cameras that allow pit bosses to call up and inquire about such things.

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Some people play VERY low amounts at Blackjack when the pit boss isn't around, and when the pit boss is around, they play VERY high amounts so that the pit boss will rate them as a high roller so they get better Comps/free play. Some people question the morale of doing that.
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I don't question the morality, just the effectiveness.

I've lost track of how many times I've seen a floor supervisor ask the dealer "How much was he betting?" after someone leaves the table.
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Depending on the casino, I make my first bet large. Like at Mohegan Pocono, tables are usually $5 during the day and weeknights, so my first bet will be $25. The supervisors are usually stretched thin and don’t pay attention, and often don’t care anyhow; after the first bet I drop down to $5.

But we hardly every play anywhere any more; now it’s usually a couple trips to AC a year for us, and Mohegan if we’re going to dinner there and have a couple bucks in free play. We went to Vegas the last couple of years, but Mrs wants to stay at Bellagio and I don’t like it there, so we kinda can’t agree. The table limits are outrageous at B.

I had a ritual about this.
If the pit were watching when I bought in, I'd place a 2X bet, and if I won, I'd let it ride. Win or lose I'd go to 2X if he was still watching or 1X if he were gone. I'd double up after wins whenever he strolled by. Eventually, I decided I was wasting energy on a battle I didn't need to fight. Why waste EV chasing a dinner comp when a whopper value meal is five dollars?

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Why waste EV chasing a dinner comp when a whopper value meal is five dollars?

Wow, you are old. A $5 Whopper value meal.

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Why waste EV chasing a dinner comp when a whopper value meal is five dollars?

Wow, you are old. A $5 Whopper value meal.
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Evenbob is onto something actually. I just bought a $5 Whopper JR Duo deal TODAY.

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Why waste EV chasing a dinner comp when a whopper value meal is five dollars?

Wow, you are old. A $5 Whopper value meal.
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You can get a small whopper value meal for $5.99 or a large for 7.49 on the app. I'm talking about 2005-08, give or take. I'd buy a whopper value meal for lunch one day, and use the receipt for a survey that got me a free whopper with the purchase of a soda and fries. Two meals for about $8. A few hours of play got me a prime rib special at Careful Kitty's but I'd leave a $5 tip so BK worked out to be cheaper than free.

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Some people play VERY low amounts at Blackjack when the pit boss isn't around, and when the pit boss is around, they play VERY high amounts so that the pit boss will rate them as a high roller so they get better Comps/free play. Some people question the morale of doing that.
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Here's the thing. Every pit boss on the face of the earth knows this. You think they don't have countermeasures?

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Some people play VERY low amounts at Blackjack when the pit boss isn't around, and when the pit boss is around, they play VERY high amounts so that the pit boss will rate them as a high roller so they get better Comps/free play. Some people question the morale of doing that.
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Here's the thing. Every pit boss on the face of the earth knows this. You think they don't have countermeasures?
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I don't play blackjack, so I'm not too keen on put boss inside and outs. ;)

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Some people play VERY low amounts at Blackjack when the pit boss isn't around, and when the pit boss is around, they play VERY high amounts so that the pit boss will rate them as a high roller so they get better Comps/free play. Some people question the morale of doing that.
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Here's the thing. Every pit boss on the face of the earth knows this. You think they don't have countermeasures?
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I don't play blackjack, so I'm not too keen on put boss inside and outs. ;)
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Cashed in vouchers worth roughly $22. Played the $11 and am running with the other $11. :)

Hialeah Promotion has an EXTREMELY good Points Promotion going on for High Rollers . :)


https://photos.app.goo.gl/yZPp6yjvt6Hz5eFr9

They have good Bingo and Money Tab Promotions going on too! :)



https://photos.app.goo.gl/djX93FCgArQhWbU27

Where I'm from 2,000 points is worth $20.00 or $10 in free play, not $100 in free play. But lately there have been slot point multipliers when I check in on the kiosk that could range from 2X to 5X or more I guess, so marketing is trying something new.

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Where I'm from 2,000 points is worth $20.00 or $10 in free play, not $100 in free play. But lately there have been slot point multipliers when I check in on the kiosk that could range from 2X to 5X or more I guess, so marketing is trying something new.
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Yep, 2000 points is $20 in Casinos, so getting $100 in free play for 2000 points is a REALLY lucrative deal. :)

I REALLY wish Mdawg hadn't self Suspended. He volunteered to self suspend as some sort of contrition/penance, but I REALLY don't think he should have done it.