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Quote: LusciousSweet2With Nathan being banned, I can rest easy now and not have to deal with accusations of being her. Word to advice to Nathan. Don't send anymore unsolicited PM's to New Members.
When will you start discussing gambling?
I’m not convinced, but maybe you can prove us all wrong.
Quote: darkozMy experience with this forum is you will probably receive snarky comments that you are nathan for several years to come
no one thinks that she is Nathan, we think she is Kentry
Don't make her "have to use the Neuralyzer on you. ;)"(*see her profile)Quote: CrystalMathWhen will you start discussing gambling?
I’m not convinced, but maybe you can prove us all wrong.
I wonder if LS loves "Surfing the net and listening to the radio, especially 80's pop music. :)" like Nathan,
They both love to use the good old smiley faces in the same way.
Now here is something very interesting for all you people who love to disregard circumstantial evidence. When Nathan signed up at VCT(IIRC she was trying to hide the fact that she was Nathan, but that didn't work out so she had to come clean). Her VCT handle was.... get this.... Tasha.
Are you following? Because this is where it gets interesting.(keep in mind Nathan seems to be an avid reader and likes to include book metaphors )
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With her too-perfect cousin Tasha moving in with her family and attending her school, Sarah Gordon worries that her first year of junior high will be spent competing with Tasha.
The Mods have no clue who is who using their VPN detection abilities or their detective abilities. Nathan = Kendry, Kentry, LusciousSweet 1 ,2 and 3, Joe, Jack, Tim david, including many others(I made those up but you get the point). Or she is in cahoots with multiple people(okay, probably just one, but multiple sounded better).
There a lot more "coincidences" but I don't feel like getting into it right now
Quote: AxelWolfDon't make her "have to use the Neuralyzer on you. ;)"(*see her profile)
I wonder if LS loves "Surfing the net and listening to the radio, especially 80's pop music. :)" like Nathan,
They both love to use the good old smiley faces in the same way.
Now here is something very interesting for all you people who love to disregard circumstantial evidence. When Nathan signed up at VCT(IIRC she was trying to hide the fact that she was Nathan, but that didn't work out so she had to come clean). Her VCT handle was.... get this.... Tasha.
Are you following? Because this is where it gets interesting.(keep in mind Nathan seems to be an avid reader and likes to include book metaphors )
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by Stacie Williams, Walter Dean Myers
4.08 · Rating details · 12 ratings · 2 reviews
With her too-perfect cousin Tasha moving in with her family and attending her school, Sarah Gordon worries that her first year of junior high will be spent competing with Tasha.
The Mods have no clue who is who using their VPN detection abilities or their detective abilities. Nathan = Kendry, Kentry, LusciousSweet 1 ,2 and 3, Joe, Jack, Tim david, including many others(I made those up but you get the point). Or she is in cahoots with multiple people(okay, probably just one, but multiple sounded better).
There a lot more "coincidences" but I don't feel like getting into it right now
The problem with coincidences is they look suspicious BUT sometimes thats what they are... coincidences.
I wonder if that kind of thinking is what majorly contributed you your 2-year stint living on the street and then getting your money and cards stolen?Quote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfDon't make her "have to use the Neuralyzer on you. ;)"(*see her profile)
I wonder if LS loves "Surfing the net and listening to the radio, especially 80's pop music. :)" like Nathan,
They both love to use the good old smiley faces in the same way.
Now here is something very interesting for all you people who love to disregard circumstantial evidence. When Nathan signed up at VCT(IIRC she was trying to hide the fact that she was Nathan, but that didn't work out so she had to come clean). Her VCT handle was.... get this.... Tasha.
Are you following? Because this is where it gets interesting.(keep in mind Nathan seems to be an avid reader and likes to include book metaphors )
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by Stacie Williams, Walter Dean Myers
4.08 · Rating details · 12 ratings · 2 reviews
With her too-perfect cousin Tasha moving in with her family and attending her school, Sarah Gordon worries that her first year of junior high will be spent competing with Tasha.
The Mods have no clue who is who using their VPN detection abilities or their detective abilities. Nathan = Kendry, Kentry, LusciousSweet 1 ,2 and 3, Joe, Jack, Tim david, including many others(I made those up but you get the point). Or she is in cahoots with multiple people(okay, probably just one, but multiple sounded better).
There a lot more "coincidences" but I don't feel like getting into it right now
The problem with coincidences is they look suspicious BUT sometimes thats what they are... coincidences.
I would get suspended if I told you not to be an idiot.
Quote: AxelWolfI wonder if that kind of thinking is what majorly contributed you your 2-year stint living on the street and then getting your money and cards stolen?Quote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfDon't make her "have to use the Neuralyzer on you. ;)"(*see her profile)
I wonder if LS loves "Surfing the net and listening to the radio, especially 80's pop music. :)" like Nathan,
They both love to use the good old smiley faces in the same way.
Now here is something very interesting for all you people who love to disregard circumstantial evidence. When Nathan signed up at VCT(IIRC she was trying to hide the fact that she was Nathan, but that didn't work out so she had to come clean). Her VCT handle was.... get this.... Tasha.
Are you following? Because this is where it gets interesting.(keep in mind Nathan seems to be an avid reader and likes to include book metaphors )
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by Stacie Williams, Walter Dean Myers
4.08 · Rating details · 12 ratings · 2 reviews
With her too-perfect cousin Tasha moving in with her family and attending her school, Sarah Gordon worries that her first year of junior high will be spent competing with Tasha.
The Mods have no clue who is who using their VPN detection abilities or their detective abilities. Nathan = Kendry, Kentry, LusciousSweet 1 ,2 and 3, Joe, Jack, Tim david, including many others(I made those up but you get the point). Or she is in cahoots with multiple people(okay, probably just one, but multiple sounded better).
There a lot more "coincidences" but I don't feel like getting into it right now
The problem with coincidences is they look suspicious BUT sometimes thats what they are... coincidences.
I would get suspended if I told you not to be an idiot.
Well your evidence is a name in a book synopsis who lives on a fictional street that you say coincides with an address someone lists
Lets just put it this way.
If you presented this as some type of evidence at any type of court it wouldn't even be allowed for entry. Because it well, proves nothing
Quote: tringlomaneI can't eat leftover white castle as they'll give me heartburn too. Im okay with fresh ones. But they don't stay fresh for very long. They start going downhill in minutes just like McDonald's French fries.
I also don't eat them in Vegas usually because they are almost double the cost of a normal location.
Last time I had White Castles in NY, last summer, I was stunned how expensive they were. The double cheeseburger is my dish and they used to be under a buck. I think they were $2.29 or more.
All the evidence added up would be enough to put her away for life. There is zero chance that Nathan's name is Tasha and LS just happened to add a location in her profile that's the name of a book where the main character is named Tasha. Add that up with the fact that they both love slots, LS seemed to seek out and find Nathan, they seemed to have a staged catfight, they both write the same way and use smiley faces in the same way, they both paid extra attention to their profile. Many people already thought they were the same person. I could go on. I bet you would see a pattern that lined up with Nathans wake up time and her work schedule.Quote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfI wonder if that kind of thinking is what majorly contributed you your 2-year stint living on the street and then getting your money and cards stolen?Quote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfDon't make her "have to use the Neuralyzer on you. ;)"(*see her profile)
I wonder if LS loves "Surfing the net and listening to the radio, especially 80's pop music. :)" like Nathan,
They both love to use the good old smiley faces in the same way.
Now here is something very interesting for all you people who love to disregard circumstantial evidence. When Nathan signed up at VCT(IIRC she was trying to hide the fact that she was Nathan, but that didn't work out so she had to come clean). Her VCT handle was.... get this.... Tasha.
Are you following? Because this is where it gets interesting.(keep in mind Nathan seems to be an avid reader and likes to include book metaphors )
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With her too-perfect cousin Tasha moving in with her family and attending her school, Sarah Gordon worries that her first year of junior high will be spent competing with Tasha.
The Mods have no clue who is who using their VPN detection abilities or their detective abilities. Nathan = Kendry, Kentry, LusciousSweet 1 ,2 and 3, Joe, Jack, Tim david, including many others(I made those up but you get the point). Or she is in cahoots with multiple people(okay, probably just one, but multiple sounded better).
There a lot more "coincidences" but I don't feel like getting into it right now
The problem with coincidences is they look suspicious BUT sometimes thats what they are... coincidences.
I would get suspended if I told you not to be an idiot.
Well your evidence is a name in a book synopsis who lives on a fictional street that you say coincides with an address someone lists
Lets just put it this way.
If you presented this as some type of evidence at any type of court it wouldn't even be allowed for entry. Because it well, proves nothing
Here is another little gem. LS said, "For instance, you asked the same gambling question on how much coin in you need to get a lot of free play on like 4 different websites that could have been answered by The Player's Club." LOL. Who knew Nathan was on 4 different forums, let alone, know she asked the same question. Someone that knows Nathan, that's who.
Anyways, is it your belief that Nathan and LS are not connected and this is all just coincidence? Or are you just trying to prove some point? If you want to prove that point, perhaps you should use it on something more meaningful where you actually believe the person is innocent.
Quote: LusciousSweet2With Nathan being banned, I can rest easy now and not have to deal with accusations of being her. Word to advice to Nathan. Don't send anymore unsolicited PM's to New Members.
Welcome back. Can you post some front pair lotto predictions?
Quote: AxelWolfAll the evidence added up would be enough to put her away for life. There is zero chance that Nathan's name is Tasha and LS just happened to add a location in her profile that's the name of a book where the main character is named Tasha. Add that up with the fact that they both love slots, LS seemed to seek out and find Nathan, they seemed to have a staged catfight, they both write the same way and use smiley faces in the same way, they both paid extra attention to their profile. Many people already thought they were the same person. I could go on. I bet you would see a pattern that lined up with Nathans wake up time and her work schedule.Quote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfI wonder if that kind of thinking is what majorly contributed you your 2-year stint living on the street and then getting your money and cards stolen?Quote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfDon't make her "have to use the Neuralyzer on you. ;)"(*see her profile)
I wonder if LS loves "Surfing the net and listening to the radio, especially 80's pop music. :)" like Nathan,
They both love to use the good old smiley faces in the same way.
Now here is something very interesting for all you people who love to disregard circumstantial evidence. When Nathan signed up at VCT(IIRC she was trying to hide the fact that she was Nathan, but that didn't work out so she had to come clean). Her VCT handle was.... get this.... Tasha.
Are you following? Because this is where it gets interesting.(keep in mind Nathan seems to be an avid reader and likes to include book metaphors )
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by Stacie Williams, Walter Dean Myers
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With her too-perfect cousin Tasha moving in with her family and attending her school, Sarah Gordon worries that her first year of junior high will be spent competing with Tasha.
The Mods have no clue who is who using their VPN detection abilities or their detective abilities. Nathan = Kendry, Kentry, LusciousSweet 1 ,2 and 3, Joe, Jack, Tim david, including many others(I made those up but you get the point). Or she is in cahoots with multiple people(okay, probably just one, but multiple sounded better).
There a lot more "coincidences" but I don't feel like getting into it right now
The problem with coincidences is they look suspicious BUT sometimes thats what they are... coincidences.
I would get suspended if I told you not to be an idiot.
Well your evidence is a name in a book synopsis who lives on a fictional street that you say coincides with an address someone lists
Lets just put it this way.
If you presented this as some type of evidence at any type of court it wouldn't even be allowed for entry. Because it well, proves nothing
Here is another little gem. LS said, "For instance, you asked the same gambling question on how much coin in you need to get a lot of free play on like 4 different websites that could have been answered by The Player's Club." LOL. Who knew Nathan was on 4 different forums, let alone, know she asked the same question. Someone that knows Nathan, that's who.
Anyways, is it your belief that Nathan and LS are not connected and this is all just coincidence? Or are you just trying to prove some point? If you want to prove that point, perhaps you should use it on something more meaningful where you actually believe the person is innocent.
I dont know if they are the same person or not.
I do know the mods have done some diligence in checking at least some of the accusations on here and have not found anything solid... which is what gives me pause.
I am always naturally resistant to circumstantial evidence. By its very nature it is taking disparate seemingly unconnected instances snd drawing connecting lines between them. Many times that proves something true. Unfortunately many times it draws a wrong conclusion. So i am always naturally skeptical of circumstantial evidence.
A quick google of 18 pine street USA turned up dozens of locations across the nation. Including about 6 in NYS alone.
With it being a real address all across the nation is it possible someone lives there who is posting here?
Its also a book series as you pointed out for women. There are 12 books in the series. So it could be luscious sweet chose the address because she read the book series and liked it. Certainly a new poster on here might be inclined to fill in a fake address.
You like bringing up my robbery in January so lets discuss that.
There have been additional developments since January. I am not going into too many details yet as the situation is in flux. I will just state the perps are in jail, the FBI is involved and there is a distinct amount of evidence. And yet law enforcement still is saying the evidence collected so far is not enough to bring charges in a court of law.
I think you overestimate how much "evidence" is required in the real world to truly prove someone is guilty
This isnt a court of law here so that high burden of proof isnt strictly necessary. But the lines you havr drawn between nathan and luscious just havent done it for me yet.
Maybe u are correct. I have been proven wrong before.
Quote: darkoz
I dont know if they are the same person or not.
And neither do I, and I've done some checking as a matter of routine.
We mods will welcome any evidence of wrong doing, by PM.
In the meantime, it would be discourteous, maybe even insulting of us to keep openly implying that the new member LuschiousSweet is someone else. Let's not.
Do we really want to drive new members away with such discourtesy?
Quote: OnceDearAnd neither do I, and I've done some checking as a matter of routine.
We mods will welcome any evidence of wrong doing, by PM.
In the meantime, it would be discourteous, maybe even insulting of us to keep openly implying that the new member LuschiousSweet is someone else. Let's not.
Do we really want to drive new members away with such discourtesy?
For real, though.
Let's say hypothetically Nathan, Kentry, LusciouSweet, etc. are just one person running a troll operation. Who gives a s***???? I mean come on. They aren't scamming people, pushing betting systems, selling sports picks, scheming, or doing anything nefarious. They'd just be doing the same thing we all do on here all the time -- mess around and enjoy each other's (online) company.
To me, Nathan cussing out BBB doesn't make sense if we're under the premise that Nathan is a sockpuppet, orchestrated by some grand-master troll. Doesn't make sense. If I were such a troll in that situation, I would make damn sure I'm not going to get nuked. If people are accusing Nathan of being a top tier troll, I think such a hypothetical troll would have perhaps made a similar post -- but without the swear words and without directly attacking/insulting BBB. It just doesn't make sense that a hypothetical troll would act in that way.
I predict 372, 867, and/or 154 to come up within the next 3 weeks. #WatchMeWin
Quote: SOOPOOI am very proud of Axel's sleuthing! If this was a criminal trial I'd say the evidence Axel came up with falls short of beyond a reasonable doubt. But it is HIGHLY convincing. I'd bet that LS is the reincarnation of Kentry, Nathan, etc....
Having just gone through a criminal trial [misdemeanor] (which I was victorious on) I would say that not one piece of evidence he showed would even be deemed admissible
"Your honor, there is the name of this book and this chick says she lives there in an online gambling forum that uses avatars and other unverified data so it must be her."
Lmfao
Quote: RSFor real, though.
Let's say hypothetically Nathan, Kentry, LusciouSweet, etc. are just one person running a troll operation. Who gives a s***????
I don't suspect that for one second. Indeed, I'm convinced that's not so.
Nathan is the Karen that she portrayed herself to be. Lots of good evidence.
I neither know nor care who LuciousSweet is, but she's not Karen/Nathan. Judge the posts, not the poster.
I don't yet give a 5h1t who LuciousSweet is, but until evidence is presented that she is up to mischief, then we should treat the recent new member with appropriate respect.
This is not some grumpy old men clique. Let's not make it one.
You are just focusing on one small thing. I had never said that is the only thing that makes the case solid. Had it just been some random person who put that in their bio, then I would not even raise an eyebrow. Are you forgetting the fact that Nathan has a past history of trying to be tricky and pretending to be someone she isn't?( that's borderline catfishing). She concealed the fact that she was a female and even agreed to a meet up with someone under the pretense that she was a male. Prior, and right up to the meetup, even after she was specifically asked about being male or female, she dodged the question.Quote: darkozHaving just gone through a criminal trial [misdemeanor] (which I was victorious on) I would say that not one piece of evidence he showed would even be deemed admissible
"Your honor, there is the name of this book and this chick says she lives there in an online gambling forum that uses avatars and other unverified data so it must be her."
Lmfao
DarkOZ (aka Bus Boy(-:)"I do know the mods have done some diligence in checking at least some of the accusations on here and have not found anything solid"
Other than an archaic VPN search, please explain to me how the Mods are able to know what's going on? It seems like you are prone to failure when it comes to making judgment calls regarding peoples propensities, honesty, abilities and knowledge, perhaps even your own when it comes to the latter two things.
I'm not sure if you remember the B79 incident(?), but then I would compare the Mods to a bunch of Keystone Kop's during that entire debacle. When he came on posing as a HOST they welcomed him with open arms (including Mike) and let him give advice to members and asked him questions. I WAS LIKE WTF, ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME!!?? It took Face some extra special diligence and detective work to finally get enough small bit of circumstantial evidence to nuke him. IIRC the only evidence was catching him in a perceived lie, again IIRC, he said he was at work or something like that, but the IP was not coming from his work or something along those lines. There was much less evidence in that situation. Nathan has admitted to various, dare I say, nefarious deceptions.
And another small thing I noticed. Nathan had just gotten into exploring new games such as craps(I think via a craps app) and low and behold here comes LS with a Nathan like craps post, and then Nathan shows up on that thread and hijinks ensued.
I can guarantee you this Nathan/LS thing is NOT a pure coincidence, there IS something amiss, what exactly that is I
really don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if there are 2 people in cahoots.
Quote: AxelWolfYou are just focusing on one small thing. I had never said that is the only thing that makes the case solid. Had it just been some random person who put that in their bio, then I would not even raise an eyebrow. Are you forgetting the fact that Nathan has a past history of trying to be tricky and pretending to be someone she isn't?( that's borderline catfishing). She concealed the fact that she was a female and even agreed to a meet up with someone under the pretense that she was a male. Prior, and right up to the meetup, even after she was specifically asked about being male or female, she dodged the question.Quote: darkozHaving just gone through a criminal trial [misdemeanor] (which I was victorious on) I would say that not one piece of evidence he showed would even be deemed admissible
"Your honor, there is the name of this book and this chick says she lives there in an online gambling forum that uses avatars and other unverified data so it must be her."
Lmfao
DarkOZ (aka Bus Boy(-:)"I do know the mods have done some diligence in checking at least some of the accusations on here and have not found anything solid"
Other than an archaic VPN search, please explain to me how the Mods are able to know what's going on? It seems like you are prone to failure when it comes to making judgment calls regarding peoples propensities, honesty, abilities and knowledge, perhaps even your own when it comes to the latter two things.
I'm not sure if you remember the B79 incident(?), but then I would compare the Mods to a bunch of Keystone Kop's during that entire debacle. When he came on posing as a mod they welcomed him with open arms (including Mike) and let him give advice to members and asked him questions. I WAS LIKE WTF, ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME!!?? It took Face some extra special diligence and detective work to finally get enough small bit of circumstantial evidence to nuke him. IIRC the only evidence was catching him in a perceived lie, again IIRC, he said he was at work or something like that, but the IP was not coming from his work or something along those lines. There was much less evidence in that situation. Nathan has admitted to various, dare I say, nefarious deceptions.
And another small thing I noticed. Nathan had just gotten into exploring new games such as craps(I think via a craps app) and low and behold here comes LS with a Nathan like craps post, and then Nathan shows up on that thread and hijinks ensued.
I can guarantee you this Nathan/LS thing is NOT a pure coincidence, there IS something amiss, what exactly that is I
really don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if there are 2 people in cahoots.
Did you read my pm?
Quote: AxelWolfYou are just focusing on one small thing. I had never said that is the only thing that makes the case solid. Had it just been some random person who put that in their bio, then I would not even raise an eyebrow. Are you forgetting the fact that Nathan has a past history of trying to be tricky and pretending to be someone she isn't?( that's borderline catfishing). She concealed the fact that she was a female and even agreed to a meet up with someone under the pretense that she was a male. Prior, and right up to the meetup, even after she was specifically asked about being male or female, she dodged the question.Quote: darkozHaving just gone through a criminal trial [misdemeanor] (which I was victorious on) I would say that not one piece of evidence he showed would even be deemed admissible
"Your honor, there is the name of this book and this chick says she lives there in an online gambling forum that uses avatars and other unverified data so it must be her."
Lmfao
DarkOZ (aka Bus Boy(-:)"I do know the mods have done some diligence in checking at least some of the accusations on here and have not found anything solid"
Other than an archaic VPN search, please explain to me how the Mods are able to know what's going on? It seems like you are prone to failure when it comes to making judgment calls regarding peoples propensities, honesty, abilities and knowledge, perhaps even your own when it comes to the latter two things.
I'm not sure if you remember the B79 incident(?), but then I would compare the Mods to a bunch of Keystone Kop's during that entire debacle. When he came on posing as a mod they welcomed him with open arms (including Mike) and let him give advice to members and asked him questions. I WAS LIKE WTF, ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME!!?? It took Face some extra special diligence and detective work to finally get enough small bit of circumstantial evidence to nuke him. IIRC the only evidence was catching him in a perceived lie, again IIRC, he said he was at work or something like that, but the IP was not coming from his work or something along those lines. There was much less evidence in that situation. Nathan has admitted to various, dare I say, nefarious deceptions.
And another small thing I noticed. Nathan had just gotten into exploring new games such as craps(I think via a craps app) and low and behold here comes LS with a Nathan like craps post, and then Nathan shows up on that thread and hijinks ensued.
I can guarantee you this Nathan/LS thing is NOT a pure coincidence, there IS something amiss, what exactly that is I
really don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if there are 2 people in cahoots.
I will have no problem accepting solid proof if you provide it.
You haven't done that for me as an independent observer yet.
You and soopoo stated there would have been a conviction already if this was a criminal trial. From that standpoint your testimony and evidence would have been deemed inadmissible to begin with because you are just a guy doing google detective work
Meanwhile the exonerating testimony of Oncedear and Wiz would have been admissible as expert testimony.
And their testimony would have been that after due diligence investigation no credible link could be found to substantiate the claims presented.
I am not saying your gut is wrong. Just that you havent proven it to me yet and most certainly not in any way a court would find it useful.
Please note that I also have not responded to the personal barbs against me for pointing this out. Busboy and stating my position may be the reason I was the victim of a robbery are meaningless arguments to prove your case about nathan/lucious and smack of desperation.
I otoh am so confident about my position I dont need to resort to insults to prove my case
Present irrefutable evidence that NOT ONLY ME but the Mods can believe too and you will have won your case
They, Nathan and Kentry have 3 way conversations all the time and bash mods and members here.
I know Wiz doesn’t want other forum garbage here but Axel is on to something but I wouldn’t doubt someone could easily create identities that could sound like Nathan. Post some nonsense and you sound just like her.
Quote: darkozmy robbery in January so lets discuss that.
There have been additional developments since January. I am not going into too many details yet as the situation is in flux. I will just state the perps are in jail, the FBI is involved and there is a distinct amount of evidence. And yet law enforcement still is saying the evidence collected so far is not enough to bring charges in a court of law.
So these alleged perps have been sitting in jail, for...how long? with no charges filed? In California the max is 48 business hours or must be released.
Or are these perps on probation or parole and hence have a hold on them? Otherwise, your story makes no sense. Even with a hold unless their probation/parole was revoked no way they would still be in jail since, what is it, JANUARY?? with no charges filed.
Quote: darkozHaving just gone through a criminal trial [misdemeanor]
Plot thickens.
I have now, sorry for the delay Bill, it didn't notify me I had a new PM.Quote: billryanQuote: AxelWolfYou are just focusing on one small thing. I had never said that is the only thing that makes the case solid. Had it just been some random person who put that in their bio, then I would not even raise an eyebrow. Are you forgetting the fact that Nathan has a past history of trying to be tricky and pretending to be someone she isn't?( that's borderline catfishing). She concealed the fact that she was a female and even agreed to a meet up with someone under the pretense that she was a male. Prior, and right up to the meetup, even after she was specifically asked about being male or female, she dodged the question.Quote: darkozHaving just gone through a criminal trial [misdemeanor] (which I was victorious on) I would say that not one piece of evidence he showed would even be deemed admissible
"Your honor, there is the name of this book and this chick says she lives there in an online gambling forum that uses avatars and other unverified data so it must be her."
Lmfao
DarkOZ (aka Bus Boy(-:)"I do know the mods have done some diligence in checking at least some of the accusations on here and have not found anything solid"
Other than an archaic VPN search, please explain to me how the Mods are able to know what's going on? It seems like you are prone to failure when it comes to making judgment calls regarding peoples propensities, honesty, abilities and knowledge, perhaps even your own when it comes to the latter two things.
I'm not sure if you remember the B79 incident(?), but then I would compare the Mods to a bunch of Keystone Kop's during that entire debacle. When he came on posing as a mod they welcomed him with open arms (including Mike) and let him give advice to members and asked him questions. I WAS LIKE WTF, ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME!!?? It took Face some extra special diligence and detective work to finally get enough small bit of circumstantial evidence to nuke him. IIRC the only evidence was catching him in a perceived lie, again IIRC, he said he was at work or something like that, but the IP was not coming from his work or something along those lines. There was much less evidence in that situation. Nathan has admitted to various, dare I say, nefarious deceptions.
And another small thing I noticed. Nathan had just gotten into exploring new games such as craps(I think via a craps app) and low and behold here comes LS with a Nathan like craps post, and then Nathan shows up on that thread and hijinks ensued.
I can guarantee you this Nathan/LS thing is NOT a pure coincidence, there IS something amiss, what exactly that is I
really don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if there are 2 people in cahoots.
Did you read my pm?
One of the many reasons we all consider you the.... #WMOATQuote: OnceDearI don't suspect that for one second.
p.s. let's not forget they are both from the same area.Quote: BozCall me a conspiracy guy but we do have a former nuked member who goes around the web and brags about how he (or she) is an active member.
They, Nathan and Kentry have 3 way conversations all the time and bash mods and members here.
I know Wiz doesn’t want other forum garbage here but Axel is on to something but I wouldn’t doubt someone could easily create identities that could sound like Nathan. Post some nonsense and you sound just like her.
I thought of that, but I don't think someone could have, or would have thought up and added some very obscure profile reference to some obscure book with the name Tasha and the main character that's connected with Nathan's handle on some other forum. If there is someone out there going that deep and coming up with that kinda stuff I think Nathan should be very very afraid. But come on, that's just nonsense and it just doesn't make any sense. If someone was going through all that trouble, you would think that they would be a little more involved in pushing their agenda whatever that may be. Right now it seems as if they(she) are just trying to make sure they don't get exposed by over posting and accidentally posting the wrong thing. If it's not actually Nathan herself, my guess is that it's her friend, co-worker or family member(most likely a cousin) who is in cahoots with her.
Quote: MDawg
Quote: darkozHaving just gone through a criminal trial [misdemeanor]
Plot thickens.
Not really
I discuss that trial to some extent here https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/big-wins/32855-my-court-case-1-victory/
Axel, there are 3.5 Billion women in the world and, with one exception, every single one of those 3.5 Billion women is not Nathan. Is it so inconceivable that one of those 3.5 Billion women joined the forum a few months ago?
Quote: AxelWolfp.s. let's not forget they are both from the same area.
I thought of that, but I don't think someone could have, or would have thought up and added some very obscure profile reference to some obscure book with the name Tasha and the main character that's connected with Nathan's handle on some other forum. If there is someone out there going that deep and coming up with that kinda stuff I think Nathan should be very very afraid. But come on, that's just nonsense and it just doesn't make any sense. If someone was going through all that trouble, you would think that they would be a little more involved in pushing their agenda whatever that may be. Right now it seems as if they(she) are just trying to make sure they don't get exposed by over posting and accidentally posting the wrong thing. If it's not actually Nathan herself, my guess is that it's her friend, co-worker or family member(most likely a cousin) who is in cahoots with her.
I dont want to make this part of the political debate on here but there are enough posters on here who still dont believe the mountains of evidence against russian collusion and money laundering going on with potus
So hard to find your smidgen of evidence compelling
How is it that The Wizards testimony would have been deemed as expert testimony in knowing if LS is Nathan or not? Let me make you aware that his record regarding this stuff is and has been dismal at best. I bet he would agree he is probably the worst person to know this type of stuff, I have a feeling he would probably say you should take the opposite of whatever he thinks because he is the opposite of an expert. I don't think OD would be able to say he really believes Nathan and LS are not connected with a straight face. I think he is just trying to discourage people from making accusations like this for obvious reasons.Quote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfYou are just focusing on one small thing. I had never said that is the only thing that makes the case solid. Had it just been some random person who put that in their bio, then I would not even raise an eyebrow. Are you forgetting the fact that Nathan has a past history of trying to be tricky and pretending to be someone she isn't?( that's borderline catfishing). She concealed the fact that she was a female and even agreed to a meet up with someone under the pretense that she was a male. Prior, and right up to the meetup, even after she was specifically asked about being male or female, she dodged the question.Quote: darkozHaving just gone through a criminal trial [misdemeanor] (which I was victorious on) I would say that not one piece of evidence he showed would even be deemed admissible
"Your honor, there is the name of this book and this chick says she lives there in an online gambling forum that uses avatars and other unverified data so it must be her."
Lmfao
DarkOZ (aka Bus Boy(-:)"I do know the mods have done some diligence in checking at least some of the accusations on here and have not found anything solid"
Other than an archaic VPN search, please explain to me how the Mods are able to know what's going on? It seems like you are prone to failure when it comes to making judgment calls regarding peoples propensities, honesty, abilities and knowledge, perhaps even your own when it comes to the latter two things.
I'm not sure if you remember the B79 incident(?), but then I would compare the Mods to a bunch of Keystone Kop's during that entire debacle. When he came on posing as a mod they welcomed him with open arms (including Mike) and let him give advice to members and asked him questions. I WAS LIKE WTF, ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME!!?? It took Face some extra special diligence and detective work to finally get enough small bit of circumstantial evidence to nuke him. IIRC the only evidence was catching him in a perceived lie, again IIRC, he said he was at work or something like that, but the IP was not coming from his work or something along those lines. There was much less evidence in that situation. Nathan has admitted to various, dare I say, nefarious deceptions.
And another small thing I noticed. Nathan had just gotten into exploring new games such as craps(I think via a craps app) and low and behold here comes LS with a Nathan like craps post, and then Nathan shows up on that thread and hijinks ensued.
I can guarantee you this Nathan/LS thing is NOT a pure coincidence, there IS something amiss, what exactly that is I
really don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if there are 2 people in cahoots.
I will have no problem accepting solid proof if you provide it.
You haven't done that for me as an independent observer yet.
You and soopoo stated there would have been a conviction already if this was a criminal trial. From that standpoint your testimony and evidence would have been deemed inadmissible to begin with because you are just a guy doing google detective work
Meanwhile the exonerating testimony of Oncedear and Wiz would have been admissible as expert testimony.
And their testimony would have been that after due diligence investigation no credible link could be found to substantiate the claims presented.
I am not saying your gut is wrong. Just that you havent proven it to me yet and most certainly not in any way a court would find it useful.
Please note that I also have not responded to the personal barbs against me for pointing this out. Busboy and stating my position may be the reason I was the victim of a robbery are meaningless arguments to prove your case about nathan/lucious and smack of desperation.
I otoh am so confident about my position I don't need to resort to insults to prove my case
Present irrefutable evidence that NOT ONLY ME but the Mods can believe too and you will have won your case
Quote: darkozI dont want to make this part of the political debate on here but there are enough posters on here who still dont believe the mountains of evidence against russian collusion and money laundering going on with potus
So hard to find your smidgen of evidence compelling
Mountains of evidence? lol
Only evidence is what the left has made up.
Quote: AxelWolfHow is it that The Wizards testimony would have been deemed as expert testimony in knowing if LS is Nathan or not? Let me make you aware that his record regarding this stuff is and has been dismal at best. I bet he would agree he is probably the worst person to know this type of stuff, I have a feeling he would probably say you should take the opposite of whatever he thinks because he is the opposite of an expert. I don't think OD would be able to say he really believes Nathan and LS are not connected with a straight face. I think he is just trying to discourage people from making accusations like this for obvious reasons.Quote: darkozQuote: AxelWolfYou are just focusing on one small thing. I had never said that is the only thing that makes the case solid. Had it just been some random person who put that in their bio, then I would not even raise an eyebrow. Are you forgetting the fact that Nathan has a past history of trying to be tricky and pretending to be someone she isn't?( that's borderline catfishing). She concealed the fact that she was a female and even agreed to a meet up with someone under the pretense that she was a male. Prior, and right up to the meetup, even after she was specifically asked about being male or female, she dodged the question.Quote: darkozHaving just gone through a criminal trial [misdemeanor] (which I was victorious on) I would say that not one piece of evidence he showed would even be deemed admissible
"Your honor, there is the name of this book and this chick says she lives there in an online gambling forum that uses avatars and other unverified data so it must be her."
Lmfao
DarkOZ (aka Bus Boy(-:)"I do know the mods have done some diligence in checking at least some of the accusations on here and have not found anything solid"
Other than an archaic VPN search, please explain to me how the Mods are able to know what's going on? It seems like you are prone to failure when it comes to making judgment calls regarding peoples propensities, honesty, abilities and knowledge, perhaps even your own when it comes to the latter two things.
I'm not sure if you remember the B79 incident(?), but then I would compare the Mods to a bunch of Keystone Kop's during that entire debacle. When he came on posing as a mod they welcomed him with open arms (including Mike) and let him give advice to members and asked him questions. I WAS LIKE WTF, ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME!!?? It took Face some extra special diligence and detective work to finally get enough small bit of circumstantial evidence to nuke him. IIRC the only evidence was catching him in a perceived lie, again IIRC, he said he was at work or something like that, but the IP was not coming from his work or something along those lines. There was much less evidence in that situation. Nathan has admitted to various, dare I say, nefarious deceptions.
And another small thing I noticed. Nathan had just gotten into exploring new games such as craps(I think via a craps app) and low and behold here comes LS with a Nathan like craps post, and then Nathan shows up on that thread and hijinks ensued.
I can guarantee you this Nathan/LS thing is NOT a pure coincidence, there IS something amiss, what exactly that is I
really don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if there are 2 people in cahoots.
I will have no problem accepting solid proof if you provide it.
You haven't done that for me as an independent observer yet.
You and soopoo stated there would have been a conviction already if this was a criminal trial. From that standpoint your testimony and evidence would have been deemed inadmissible to begin with because you are just a guy doing google detective work
Meanwhile the exonerating testimony of Oncedear and Wiz would have been admissible as expert testimony.
And their testimony would have been that after due diligence investigation no credible link could be found to substantiate the claims presented.
I am not saying your gut is wrong. Just that you havent proven it to me yet and most certainly not in any way a court would find it useful.
Please note that I also have not responded to the personal barbs against me for pointing this out. Busboy and stating my position may be the reason I was the victim of a robbery are meaningless arguments to prove your case about nathan/lucious and smack of desperation.
I otoh am so confident about my position I don't need to resort to insults to prove my case
Present irrefutable evidence that NOT ONLY ME but the Mods can believe too and you will have won your case
The mods running a website with tools they use to detect ip and other metric data makes them expert more than a guy who compares info gleaned from google searches.
Their record of accuracy could theoretically be called into question but an expert witness generally has to show prior technical experience or learning in the subject field.
For example, Its possible the Wizard might be found to have made a mathematical error at some point. His training and prior experience would qualify him as an expert witness in mathematics anyway.
Please no more of this Kentry/Nathan stuff. Its either sufficient evidence for your tastes or it is not but there hasn't been anything new on this issue for umpteen zillion posts.
Surely you can find some drying paint to watch.
Quote: FleaStiffENOUGH !!!!
Please no more of this Kentry/Nathan stuff. Its either sufficient evidence for your tastes or it is not but there hasn't been anything new on this issue for umpteen zillion posts.
Surely you can find some drying paint to watch.
+1. How little of a life one must have to keep debating a person they say they could not stand in the first place.
Quote: FleaStiffENOUGH !!!!
Please no more of this Kentry/Nathan stuff. Its either sufficient evidence for your tastes or it is not but there hasn't been anything new on this issue for umpteen zillion posts.
Surely you can find some drying paint to watch.
Im tempted to swap out the names Nathan/kentry for Donald Trump and post this quote in the political threads
Great idea.Quote: darkozIm tempted to swap out the names Nathan/kentry for Donald Trump and post this quote in the political threads
Quote: FleaStiffENOUGH !!!!
Please no more of this Kentry/Nathan stuff. Its either sufficient evidence for your tastes or it is not but there hasn't been anything new on this issue for umpteen zillion posts.
Surely you can find some drying paint to watch.
Exactly. Look at all the vitriol yet another "I'm not X" denial has spawned, after it all had pretty much died down again. And not a comment since. Mission accomplished.
Quote: AxelWolfAre you following? Because this is where it gets interesting.(keep in mind Nathan seems to be an avid reader and likes to include book metaphors )
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what is this 18 pine street, you may ask?
here you go...
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With her too-perfect cousin Tasha moving in with her family and attending her school, Sarah Gordon worries that her first year of junior high will be spent competing with Tasha.
Somebody directed my attention to this. Personally, I don't really care for such witch hunting and strongly believe in giving anyone the benefit of the doubt. Recall when most of the forum accused Nathan as well as JuicyJennie of being men? A majority can be wrong.
That said, I put in in "18 pine street nathan tasha kentry" in Google and that came up. Big deal. Put any random words into Google and it will find some connection between them. I put in "axel and wolf" and got this guy.
Image source: https://www.bach-cantatas.com/Bio/Wolf-Axel.htm
I didn't know you played the lute. I haven't heard that word since I last read a Shakespeare play, decades ago.
And what connection did you find?Quote: WizardQuote: AxelWolfAre you following? Because this is where it gets interesting.(keep in mind Nathan seems to be an avid reader and likes to include book metaphors )
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Age: 25
Location: 18 pine street
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what is this 18 pine street, you may ask?
here you go...
Sort of Sisters
by
Stacie Williams
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Sort of Sisters
(18 Pine St. #1)
by Stacie Williams, Walter Dean Myers
4.08 · Rating details · 12 ratings · 2 reviews
With her too-perfect cousin Tasha moving in with her family and attending her school, Sarah Gordon worries that her first year of junior high will be spent competing with Tasha.
Somebody directed my attention to this. Personally, I don't really care for such witch hunting and strongly believe in giving anyone the benefit of the doubt. Recall when most of the forum accused Nathan as well as JuicyJennie of being men? A majority can be wrong.
That said, I put in in "18 pine street nathan tasha kentry" in Google and that came up. Big deal. Put any random words into Google and it will find some connection between them. I put in "axel and wolf" and got this guy.
Image source: https://www.bach-cantatas.com/Bio/Wolf-Axel.htm
I didn't know you played the lute. I haven't heard that word since I last read a Shakespeare play, decades ago.
I don't play the lute it seems like a fairly obscure thing. That's kinda my point. if I did play the lute and you typed in my forum name and that came up without the picture or other references that you know not to be true wouldn't you think that could be me?
It's Nathans corner, what else is there to talk about here? There are other threads one can tune into.Quote: FleaStiffENOUGH !!!!
Please no more of this Kentry/Nathan stuff. Its either sufficient evidence for your tastes or it is not but there hasn't been anything new on this issue for umpteen zillion posts.
Surely you can find some drying paint to watch.
"Florida Lottery Numbers Predictions time! I predict that either 863,814, 411, box or straight Pick 3 or 42 front pair Pick 4 or 18 box or straight Pick 2 is coming up today or at least within a week! "
Quote: MaxPenFound some lotto picks online from a Florida Lottery guru.
"Florida Lottery Numbers Predictions time! I predict that either 863,814, 411, box or straight Pick 3 or 42 front pair Pick 4 or 18 box or straight Pick 2 is coming up today or at least within a week! "
Hey those are the picks I sent you to be kept privately due to the cost associated with giving out the picks (I don't give out premium picks for free, after all).
Just curious: what makes these premium picks worth more than random speculation?Quote: RSHey those are the picks I sent you to be kept privately due to the cost associated with giving out the picks (I don't give out premium picks for free, after all).
Is that a serious question?Quote: BleedingChipsSlowlyJust curious: what makes these premium picks worth more than random speculation?
Random Speculation, RS
Coincidence?? You decide.
Quote: AxelWolfIs that a serious question?
Random Speculation, RS
Coincidence?? You decide.
There is also reason to believe he works for the tax department
I-RS
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowlyJust curious: what makes these premium picks worth more than random speculation?
Because they are PREMIUM picks. He even said so.
There is a reason to believe you should have taken the name RS = Really Special.Quote: darkozThere is also reason to believe he works for the tax department
I-RS
Quote: AxelWolfThere is a reason to believe you should have taken the name RS = Really Special.
I would have taken RSAP
Really Successful Advantage Player
I fixed that for you.Quote: darkozI would have taken RSAP
Really Special Advantage Player
