MrV
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:02:11 AM permalink
I'd not heard of the latest opioid: Carfentanil.

Synthesized in 1974 as an elephant tranquilizer, it is reported to be 5000 times stronger than heroin.

It's on the streets now.

see: wiki

and

article
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FleaStiff
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:19:32 AM permalink
Yeah its potent stuff and provides tremendous profit opportunities to Chinese drug manufacturers but its not much different than any other drug situation: people with First World aspirations living in a Third World economy will find that booze and wife-beating only go so far. Drugs are the only escape from their psychological state and the only escape from their economic state.
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:24:23 AM permalink
I just don't understand the appeal of hard drugs.
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:49:36 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I just don't understand the appeal of hard drugs.



I smoked golden hash oil once, when I was 18.

I've never tried anything like it again.

But I COMPLETELY understand the appeal now.

Don't ever get started. It's beyond great. Which is why it's so terrible.
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:50:59 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

I'd not heard of the latest opioid: Carfentanil.

Synthesized in 1974 as an elephant tranquilizer, it is reported to be 5000 times stronger than heroin.

It's on the streets now.

see: wiki

and

article

.

"strength" is not as important as people think. In the OR I can use micrograms of sufentanil or milligrams of morphine with similar results. It's not like you are going to get a kg of carfentanil from your local dealer. It will be sold to you in the micrograms. While heroin will be sold in milligrams.
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:51:25 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I smoked golden hash oil once, when I was 18.

I've never tried anything like it again.

But I COMPLETELY understand the appeal now.

Don't ever get started. It's beyond great. Which is why it's so terrible.


Hash oil as in THC? That’s just some concentrated weed, I wouldn’t consider a hard drug.
MrV
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:52:04 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I just don't understand the appeal of hard drugs.



I think Lou Reed got to the essence in his seminal tune "Heroin:"

see: lyrics

Key words: "Nullify my life"
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:53:53 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Hash oil as in THC? That’s just some concentrated weed, I wouldn’t consider a hard drug.



I'm not an expert, and this was 40 years ago, but my dealer friend said it was an opium derivative, not Marijuana derived.
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:54:02 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I smoked golden hash oil once, when I was 18.

I've never tried anything like it again.

But I COMPLETELY understand the appeal now.

Don't ever get started. It's beyond great. Which is why it's so terrible.



A recovering addict who was an anesthesiologist said.... Don't ever try fentanyl ONCE.... It is SO good you can get hooked on one illicit dose.
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:56:09 AM permalink
I recall someone once described their first hit of meth substantially as follows:

"Imagine the best you've ever felt in your life; then multiply it by ten, that's how it felt."
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April 12th, 2018 at 11:19:05 AM permalink
Anita O'Day's reaction to Charlie Parker's giving her a first hit of heroin:
Better than a Martini, better than sex,,, can I have another.
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April 12th, 2018 at 12:00:36 PM permalink
I have never done any illegal drugs,including marijuana. As I get older I keep thinking that I would like to try once shooting up Black Tar Heroin but I doubt that I ever will.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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April 12th, 2018 at 2:17:28 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I smoked golden hash oil once, when I was 18.

I've never tried anything like it again.

But I COMPLETELY understand the appeal now.

Don't ever get started. It's beyond great. Which is why it's so terrible.

I get that things are addicting... I've done a few things, but nothing I'd consider really "hard." MDMA, adderall, weed, I mean... I went to college. Tried a few things, didn't do them ever again. Even the things I liked doing, I still didn't feel the urge to "do them every day." Anything in moderation can be a good time. I'd do MDMA again, at 'some' point in my life would probably do weed again (brownies hopefully), but I just don't even feel like doing them every weekend. Plus, most of what a lot of drugs do is empty your dopamine and serotonin for a flood and a rush/good feeling. It takes weeks for your levels to get back up to 'replenished' so that means if you did something again a couple days later it would have less of an effect, perhaps why people up the doses and get addicted. So even in my hay day over a decade ago in college I never did anything like that within a couple weeks of each other.
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April 12th, 2018 at 6:46:48 PM permalink
I actually keep oxycodone in the house
Left over from a stomach operation I had recently.
Needed it due to the pain of having 30 staples holding my stomach together
I had some leftover once the pain lightened up.
So many horror stories, I took myself right off once I could deal with the lightening pain
I just keep it in case I get a tooth ache or something like that
I popped a few on New Years eve. That's about it. The only time I tried the high. You don't get high if using for pain.
Just nice to have in the house if I run into any pain problems
Kind of scared to do it again due to all the horror stories out there
MrV
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April 12th, 2018 at 7:26:45 PM permalink
I rat-holed some vicodin (dentist prescribed) and pop one occasionally if I am staying at the Chinook Winds casino when it's late at night, I don't have to drive, and I want to zone out playing negaive expectation casino games.

Combined with good weed the sensation is quite pleasant.

And legal.
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