Keyser
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October 17th, 2014 at 2:05:26 PM permalink
The new Ebola czar is..........an attorney!!!

No Joke!!! No medical experience. He's just an attorney!
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October 17th, 2014 at 2:19:27 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

The new Ebola czar is..........an attorney!!!
No Joke!!! No medical experience. He's just an attorney!



Yup, he's just another Obama flunky. He wouldn't know
a virus from a Viagra, another home run for team Obummer..
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October 17th, 2014 at 2:21:12 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

The new Ebola czar is..........an attorney!!!

No Joke!!! No medical experience. He's just an attorney!



It all fits when we actually come to terms with what "they're" goal is.

Where in the world is the US surgeon general is all this? I haven't seen a statement about not smoking ebola, or how to put on a condom for ebola. But yet we are witness to yet another bureaucracy.
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October 17th, 2014 at 2:30:42 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

It all fits when we actually come to terms with what "they're" goal is.
.



Obama's answer to everything is create another
$100K czar job and make it somebody else's
problem, not his. I hear he was livid in the cabinet
meeting on Wed that they had let this get out of
hand. Obama leads by delegating to underlings,
always a recipe for disaster.
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October 17th, 2014 at 3:00:33 PM permalink
There are several countries bordering the three west African countries with the Ebola virus. These border countries do not have the virus because they have people with guns on the border preventing folks from crossing.

Maybe the new czar will look into this complex method of disease prevention.
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October 17th, 2014 at 3:09:40 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Obama's answer to everything is create another
$100K czar job and make it somebody else's
problem, not his. I hear he was livid in the cabinet
meeting on Wed that they had let this get out of
hand. Obama leads by delegating to underlings,
always a recipe for disaster.



Just want to point out it was originally the Republicans demanding an ebola czar claiming Obama wasn't doing enough http://news.yahoo.com/gop-senators-who-opposed-obama-%E2%80%9Cczars%E2%80%9D-now-want-one-for-ebola-192811900.html or here is Fox and Friends http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/10/13/fox-amp-friends-wants-an-ebola-czar-after-sugge/201131 . But clearly when he does appoint one he is the most evil person imaginable and has no idea of what to do on his own.
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October 17th, 2014 at 3:16:13 PM permalink
Quote: Twirdman

and has no idea of what to do on his own.



That's pretty much it. I want somebody to
handle my sewer construction company,
so I should hire somebody who ran an
orchard? Only if I'm an idiot.
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October 17th, 2014 at 3:19:08 PM permalink
You're missing the point. Like Obama the czar isn't qualified to lead. He's just another attorney!!!
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October 17th, 2014 at 3:48:33 PM permalink
His responsibilities are more managerial than medical.
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October 17th, 2014 at 3:53:13 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

You're missing the point. Like Obama the czar isn't qualified to lead. He's just another attorney actor!!!



He is just another actor, putting on a show. They are all acting.
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October 17th, 2014 at 4:19:05 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

It all fits when we actually come to terms with what "they're" goal is.

Where in the world is the US surgeon general is all this? I haven't seen a statement about not smoking ebola, or how to put on a condom for ebola. But yet we are witness to yet another bureaucracy.



I don't think we have a Surgeon General right now. Another Obummer.
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October 17th, 2014 at 4:26:57 PM permalink
I'll just leave this right here.

Ohio gambler arrested for inducing panic by saying his wife had Ebola.
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October 17th, 2014 at 4:28:07 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

I don't think we have a Surgeon General right now. Another Obummer.



Hardly Obama's fault that there is no attorney general he appointed a qualified person who senate republicans refused to confirm.
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October 17th, 2014 at 5:10:35 PM permalink
Quote: Mr.V

His responsibilities are more managerial than medical.




Ok, then again, why would you want another f*%#ing attorney!


Administrators, and managers lead. Attorneys litigate and blame. I believe that we don't need to blame any more nurses for contracting Ebola, while putting their lives in danger. And I don't think we're going to beat Ebola by suing it. Do you?


What we need is real experience and leadership. Bring in a former Surgeon General, or someone from the office of the Surgeon General. We must have someone that understands infectious disease, not just another f#$%ing attorney!!!

Good grief, this country needs leadership! Political correctness is killing us.


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October 17th, 2014 at 5:16:37 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Ok, then again, why would you want another f*%#ing attorney!


Administrators, and managers lead. Attorneys litigate and blame.



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October 17th, 2014 at 5:24:47 PM permalink
"Rep. Tim Murphy, R-Pa., chairman of the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee, added, “This appointment is both shocking and frankly tone deaf to what the American people are concerned about. Installing yet another political appointee who has no medical background or infectious disease control experience will do little to reassure Americans who are increasingly losing confidence with the administration’s Ebola strategy.”


The liberals and progressives are amusing when they're out of power, but when they're in power, it's scary!
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October 17th, 2014 at 5:52:36 PM permalink
Quote: Twirdman

Hardly Obama's fault that there is no attorney general he appointed a qualified person who senate republicans refused to confirm.



Because he was a 37 yr old anti gun nut. You
left out that little tidbit.

“Dr. Murthy has disqualified himself from being Surgeon General because of his intent to use that position to launch an attack on Americans’ right to own a firearm under the guise of a public health and safety campaign."
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October 17th, 2014 at 7:54:00 PM permalink
Quoting Rand Paul, eh.
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October 17th, 2014 at 8:02:45 PM permalink
Hey He is protecting your local AMERICAN bakery...

"They're coming after your donuts!" – Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul after the FDA said it would phase out trans fats. "
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October 18th, 2014 at 1:11:46 PM permalink
Quote: Twirdman

Hardly Obama's fault that there is no attorney general he appointed a qualified person who senate republicans refused to confirm.



Which law firm did he work for?
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October 18th, 2014 at 1:35:08 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

Which law firm did he work for?



Funny but he was a doctor at Harvard medical school http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Murthy. Senate republicans refuse to confirm him because he dared to say there should be gun laws, something he as surgeon general would have no power over anyway.

Edit: Accidentally put attorney rather then surgeon the post was about surgeon general.
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October 18th, 2014 at 1:51:23 PM permalink
Quote: Twirdman

Funny but he was a doctor at Harvard medical school http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Murthy. Senate republicans refuse to confirm him because he dared to say there should be gun laws, something he as attorney general would have no power over anyway.



Wait a second here, are we talking about the "surgeon general" or the attorney general? We have an attorney general known to his friends as "Place Holder"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgeon_General_of_the_United_States
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October 18th, 2014 at 3:07:01 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Wait a second here, are we talking about the "surgeon general" or the attorney general? We have an attorney general known to his friends as "Place Holder"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgeon_General_of_the_United_States



Yeah I meant surgeon had a brain fart when I was typing.
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October 18th, 2014 at 3:29:51 PM permalink
Two problems with Ron Klain, the new Ebola Czar.

1. He has no medical background.

2. He is a known heavy hitting political operative for the Democrats.
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October 18th, 2014 at 4:39:41 PM permalink
So what?

He knows his way around, which is what you want.

Oh sure, the notion of bringing in an outsider with a brilliant medical background sounds good in theory, but he'd be like a deer in the headlights in Washington D.C. and would flounder for awhile until he got up to speed, and by then it would be too late.
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October 18th, 2014 at 6:27:31 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

So what?

He knows his way around, which is what you want.

Oh sure, the notion of bringing in an outsider with a brilliant medical background sounds good in theory, but he'd be like a deer in the headlights in Washington D.C. and would flounder for awhile until he got up to speed, and by then it would be too late.



Why not just bring someone in from corporate? There's always room for another family member.
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October 18th, 2014 at 7:19:21 PM permalink
Well, thanks to the open borders crowd and their disease-ridden border jumping pets, the enterovirus, has been much worse than ebola, thus far. But, again, it's just a small, small price to pay for the joys of diversity, hey hey.
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/proof-virus-leaving-u-s-children-paralyzed-did-come-from-central-america/107644
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October 18th, 2014 at 9:14:17 PM permalink
Some of us are forgetting that there are reportedly Democrats, perhaps ones in fear of losing elections, who aren't keen on this nomination:

"Reportedly, about ten Senate Democrats were refusing to support Murthy's nomination; among them was Mark Begich, who cited concerns about the nominee's political advocacy and inexperience as a practicing physician."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Murthy

That is enough to keep the Doctor out of the office at this point; it isn't just those dastardly Republicans. Reid has no way to win right now...
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October 18th, 2014 at 11:19:09 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

So what? He knows his way around, which is what you want. Oh sure, the notion of bringing in an outsider with a brilliant medical background sounds good in theory, but he'd be like a deer in the headlights in Washington D.C. and would flounder for awhile until he got up to speed, and by then it would be too late.

That's a heck of a qualification. Klain himself told The NY Times that his job would be "messaging." So that's all that's really needed now. Right. Just ask Putin, ISIS, Iran, Syria, Crimea, Turkey and North Korea, among quite a few others, just how that's working out.
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October 19th, 2014 at 5:20:47 AM permalink
A couple of days ago, Shepard Smith had this to say about the Ebola situation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2KBfynW09I
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October 19th, 2014 at 11:39:09 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

A couple of days ago, Shepard Smith had this to say about the Ebola situation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2KBfynW09I



Shep is a Lib putz, I personally can't stand him. He's
just reading the lib talking points. Don't worry, don't
let this affect the election. The truth is, he doesn't
know where we'll be 6 weeks from now when infected
people are pouring in from the south now that it's not
110 in the shade in C America.
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October 19th, 2014 at 12:07:22 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

A couple of days ago, Shepard Smith had this to say about the Ebola situation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2KBfynW09I




Quote: EvenBob

Shep is a Lib putz, I personally can't stand him. He's
just reading the lib talking points. Don't worry, don't
let this affect the election. The truth is, he doesn't
know where we'll be 6 weeks from now when infected
people are pouring in from the south now that it's not
110 in the shade in C America.



Wow. Just wow. So the guy comes out and says the media and BOTH sides are blowing this way out of whack at this point and you think he is reading the Dem/Lib talking points? I believe you arr wrong on this one, sir--he basically blew up both sides and the media.

We have three cases of Ebola that were not known to us before they happened--in other words, not counting the ones we brought back from overseas with the disease and following proper precautions. Three. A guy comes back from overseas; he has the disease. Two people who attended to his care got it before everyone started using proper precautions. That is it for now; though that could change, of course.

For that, we have a full-fledged panic in both parties. The President canceling stuff and acting like a leader (which I believe he should have done long ago on many issues) and the Republicans saying there is no leadership. The news media all over the place looking for preppers and the like.

It isn't that there is nothing going on...it is just that there is way less than there should be going on to cause the ruckus going on now...
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October 19th, 2014 at 12:19:48 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

Wow. Just wow. So the guy comes out and says the media and BOTH sides are blowing this way out of whack.



He's saying what ALL the libs are saying,
don't worry, don't fret, it's an election year,
nothing is happening. They can't know that
and neither can Shep Smith. They just want
it all to be calm until the election is over.
You can take it to the bank that we know
about 30% of what's really going on with
Ebola.
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October 19th, 2014 at 1:29:19 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

He's saying what ALL the libs are saying,
don't worry, don't fret, it's an election year,
nothing is happening. They can't know that
and neither can Shep Smith. They just want
it all to be calm until the election is over.
You can take it to the bank that we know
about 30% of what's really going on with
Ebola.



Did you even watch it? He called out the President for acting like he was leading and the opposition for saying that he wasn't...making a political issue out of the whole thing on both sides.

It is silly to believe that there is much more to the story at this point--anyone showing symptoms of Ebola will be a news story instantly. They won't be able to hide it...and it doesn't appear that they have done so yet.

Could there be more to come about the story? Yes. Should we be hiding in our basements only speaking to the world using the internet at this point? Of course not. Well, unless you are Mark Levin or...
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October 19th, 2014 at 1:53:05 PM permalink
The ebola singularity?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NwuSSoMP_k

Plenty of POTUS bashing to keep you interested, be an ebola expert, report back

At a minimum read 4 small paragraph's at 30:12
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October 19th, 2014 at 3:38:26 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

Should we be hiding in our basements ..



Neither should we take anything they say
as the whole truth or take anything for
granted. Our open southern border is
what needs watching. It will explode
and Obama will say it's the first he's
heard of it being a potential Obola
problem.
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October 19th, 2014 at 5:34:08 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

It is silly to believe that there is much more to the story at this point--anyone showing symptoms of Ebola will be a news story instantly. They won't be able to hide it...and it doesn't appear that they have done so yet.

SSSuuurrree. Nothing to see here. Move along. Benghazi, Fast & Furious, I.R.S., V.A., etc. etc., not to mention all those dry runs against soft targets all virtually completely vanished in a matter of days.
Quote: RonC

Could there be more to come about the story? Yes.

Don't count on that from your government.
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October 19th, 2014 at 7:31:40 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

SSSuuurrree. Nothing to see here. Move along. Benghazi, Fast & Furious, I.R.S., V.A., etc. etc., not to mention all those dry runs against soft targets all virtually completely vanished in a matter of days.
Don't count on that from your government.



OMG how much longer is Benghazi going to be talked about. Congressional hearings found no wrongdoing. This was a house hearing also so the group run by Republicans found no wrong doing how much more are we going to beat it to death.

Also the big attack claiming that the terrorist were motivated by a movie turned out to at least be partially true http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06/17/captured-alleged-benghazi-ringleader-was-report/199771 .
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October 19th, 2014 at 7:56:37 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

SSSuuurrree. Nothing to see here. Move along. Benghazi, Fast & Furious, I.R.S., V.A., etc. etc., not to mention all those dry runs against soft targets all virtually completely vanished in a matter of days.
Don't count on that from your government.



Could it just be that there really isn't anything to see here? Just because your enemies are always looking for something to tar you with doesn't mean you should be tarred. All the stuff you mention seems more like throwing the spaghetti at the wall to see what will stick than actually finding something reprehensible to confirm a bias.
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October 19th, 2014 at 8:13:31 PM permalink
Quote: Twirdman

OMG how much longer is Benghazi going to be talked about.



There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
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October 19th, 2014 at 10:44:17 PM permalink
Quote: Twirdman

Congressional hearings found no wrongdoing. This was a house hearing also so the group run by Republicans found no wrong doing how much more are we going to beat it to death.

Flaunting a lack of knowledge about major developments like the start-up of the Select Committee, Panetta's scalding account and naming of names and the newly released startlingly detailed statements by the front-line operatives assigned to protect American territory and officials does not amount to much more than handwaving. Watergate, for instance, was ignored for an egregious length of time by practically all the news media and the public, and it didn't even involve the sodomization and murders of high American officials.
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October 20th, 2014 at 3:52:29 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

SSSuuurrree. Nothing to see here. Move along. Benghazi, Fast & Furious, I.R.S., V.A., etc. etc., not to mention all those dry runs against soft targets all virtually completely vanished in a matter of days.

Don't count on that from your government.



I don't count on much from the government. I don't trust the President. I don't trust the press to fully report negative news about the President. I don't trust Democrats. I don't trust a lot of "name" Republicans, either. They can hide things that happen in Washington, feed us tidbits and tell us we have full story. I get all of that.

I don't think the President is leading well on Ebola. I think the Republicans should have publicly asked for a vote on the Surgeon General to put the Democrats who are scared about supporting him due to the upcoming election on the record as either for, against, or present...or whatever they call it there.

I don't think they can "cover-up" Ebola. Every case has been a huge story. We will see in the Ebola story what they do well and what they fail at. For example, the CDC Director's testimony was shameful. He had no idea about the plane flight situation or lied about it. It is pretty well documented that he acted clueless as to what exactly happened.



There just aren't that many cases to warrant the full panic mode.
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October 20th, 2014 at 3:58:22 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

I don't count on much from the government. I don't trust the President. I don't trust the press to fully report negative news about the President. I don't trust Democrats. I don't trust a lot of "name" Republicans, either. They can hide things that happen in Washington, feed us tidbits and tell us we have full story. I get all of that.

I don't think the President is leading well on Ebola. I think the Republicans should have publicly asked for a vote on the Surgeon General to put the Democrats who are scared about supporting him due to the upcoming election on the record as either for, against, or present...or whatever they call it there.

I don't think they can "cover-up" Ebola. Every case has been a huge story. We will see in the Ebola story what they do well and what they fail at. For example, the CDC Director's testimony was shameful. He had no idea about the plane flight situation or lied about it. It is pretty well documented that he acted clueless as to what exactly happened.



There just aren't that many cases to warrant the full panic mode.



Absurd.
This country is Ebola Free from spreading.
no new cases in this country.
repubs are bummed
no more ebola mania.
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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October 20th, 2014 at 4:19:52 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Absurd.
This country is Ebola Free from spreading.
no new cases in this country.
repubs are bummed
no more ebola mania.



You are wrong, just like EB. The Democrats were using this, too. They attempted to score points on leadership (the President canceled a trip when he hasn't done that for many other things AND everyone consistently tells us he can lead even from the golf course), on the Surgeon General issue (but why hasn't Harry forced a vote)?, etc.

BOTH sides attempted to leverage this story. BOTH sides wanted to feed the panic. BOTH sides saw a potential political advantage...BOTH SIDES.
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October 23rd, 2014 at 6:19:00 PM permalink
The NYT is reporting there is a doc with
Obola in NYC. The lib press is saying it's
all over, I thought, no worries.
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October 23rd, 2014 at 8:28:46 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

The NYT is reporting there is a doc with Obola in NYC. The lib press is saying it's all over, I thought, no worries.

Just as the oceans stopped rising.
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October 23rd, 2014 at 8:58:58 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

The NYT is reporting there is a doc with
Obola in NYC. The lib press is saying it's
all over, I thought, no worries.



It's mostly a non-issue for the US...but until people more selfless than you or I (doctors from America to help the Ebola crisis in Africa) are not forced to quarantine themselves within Africa for at least a month, we will have this small threat of Ebola in the US. I also would love to poll the doctors' from the US helping to treat Ebola in Africa political affiliation.
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October 23rd, 2014 at 11:56:01 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

The lib press is saying it's
all over, I thought, no worries.



Pretty sure I heard the lib press report the disease is still trending in the wrong direction in Africa. As long as that continues, it is not over.
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October 24th, 2014 at 12:42:01 AM permalink

This is a more updated news on the Ebola in my neck of the woods.
I'm OK with Corps which pick and choose clienteles. Both insurance companies and casinos have the right to pick and choose customers. They may keep profitable ones and kicked out the rest. But, I'm not OK with a casino supervisor who says counting cards... is like stealing food from a buffet (a foodlifting offense), or video-taping a movie in a cinema (a piracy offense).
RonC
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October 24th, 2014 at 3:01:57 AM permalink
Once again, someone came into the country from an area where there is active Ebola and has the disease. Doing some scrub downs of places he visited is warranted but panic over every person who pukes is not. Two people (besides the ones we knowingly transported back to the States for treatment) have developed cases of Ebola after leaving an infested area. They caught it where it is an issue. Two people, before proper protocols were in place, caught Ebola from one of those people. That's it. Four cases of Ebola.

Ebola is a deadly disease. We should be cautious and work to understand the disease and prevent it from spreading. What we shouldn't do, and we are doing too much of, is panic.

We say that it is inefficient to close the borders and/or sequester people for 21 days or so after they visit any country where there is Ebola. That seems like a prudent step that has worked already in other countries, but our government is unwilling to take it. That means we are going to risk allowing a certain amount of people into the country that may have he disease on arrival. With the inefficient way Ebola spreads, as opposed to the flu and other easily-spread diseases, that isn't a terrible decision though it may not be the right one.

You can make fun of Shep Smith, call him a Liberal, call him Fox guy or whatever, but the bottom line as of today is that the flu will kill many more people than Ebola will in the coming months.
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