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FleaStiff
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January 20th, 2020 at 12:27:04 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Jesus, that sounds like a TERRIBLE sales gimmick. When I see "sold out," I walk away.

Well, I am sure MANY posters here would think that was very sensible behavior on your part, but the Marketing Mavens on those Junket Flights don't see it that way at all.

Their sales procedure is to send the email containing the magic words "junket flight" to zillions of people, have the computer show you "Sorry, too late, all sold out" and THEN they deal with those who are serious and persistent and who disclose their intended "action".

TERRIBLE?????? Perhaps it is, but that is the way they do it and one of the values of the WOV website is to reveal to the posters some of these arcane marketing tricks the casinos use.

This was eons ago, but my first Junket Flight delivered all the gamblers to the casino right away and delivered the luggage over four hours later. I had foolishly left my medications and my money in the suitcase. I never made that mistake again. I am hopeful my posts about that incident have kept others from wasting their time and having their "action" be foolishly downgraded.
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January 22nd, 2020 at 10:58:06 AM permalink
How do you decide where to move?

I'm looking for like a Match.com but for transients. You put in your values and it gives you a state that's compatible. Does that not exist? Why are we not making one right now?

But for real, googling item by item is tedious. And I don't know enough to google what I need. How did YOU do it? Throw darts and just wing it?
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January 22nd, 2020 at 11:35:11 AM permalink
Quote: Face

How do you decide where to move?

I'm looking for like a Match.com but for transients. You put in your values and it gives you a state that's compatible. Does that not exist? Why are we not making one right now?

But for real, googling item by item is tedious. And I don't know enough to google what I need. How did YOU do it? Throw darts and just wing it?



In my case it was just define a few required criteria. For me the most important thing was warmth. I was a college senior and decided that I needed to decide where I was going to move when I graduated. I chose three cities and subscribed to their newspapers (I know, I am old and the internet wasn't a thing yet).

I chose San Diego, Las Vegas, and Port Arthur Texas. A big city in San diego, a mid-size cityLas vegas, and a small city Port Arthur. I read the news papers every week for a year. The next most important was getting a job which pretty much ruled out Port Arthur. I had been to Laas Vegas two or three times while in college as I was practicing my card counting. The big attraction to San Diego was the beach and the bikini clad beachgoers. I think Las Vegas won out because of my fascination with gambling and the booming economy in 1990. It also seemed like a fun place for a young man to sow his oats and fortunately I had relatively a lot of money saved up for a graduating college kid. I think it was about $20k which was a good nest egg in 1990. That was enough money to live well for a year without working. I went nine months just gambling and having fun then decided to get a job. After two years I got into the Gaming business and it has now been 27 years of it.
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January 22nd, 2020 at 11:37:55 AM permalink
Quote: Face

How do you decide where to move?

I'm looking for like a Match.com but for transients. You put in your values and it gives you a state that's compatible. Does that not exist? Why are we not making one right now?

But for real, googling item by item is tedious. And I don't know enough to google what I need. How did YOU do it? Throw darts and just wing it?



Is this what you want? Pick two places, and it shows you cost of living comparisons for almost everything.
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January 22nd, 2020 at 12:45:34 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

In my case it was just define a few required criteria.



Yes, but I'm old now. Shooting from the hip is a young man's game.

The newspaper is a good idea.

Quote: TigerWu

Is this what you want? Pick two places, and it shows you cost of living comparisons for almost everything.



That is super helpful, but painfully narrow. There's a whole existence out there that has nothing to do with money.

I've already done the DRich portion, "the basics". And some of the larger "landscape" issues like gun laws, political atmosphere and whether they salt their freaking roads are sort of easy to find. But what about life's details? Can you collect rainwater? Open burn pits? Zone laws re: livestock? Building code?

You dig what I'm saying? Someone keen on the cowboy rancher lifestyle might want to move to Texas. He don't know nothing but he recognizes the name "Austin". So he steps off the plane in spurs and chaps and finds himself surrounded by IT nerds in cardigans and penny loafers. Whoops. That's perhaps an extreme example, but provides the point. It's illegal to ride ATV on the road in NY, but it's SOP here in my parts. It's illegal to keep wild animals in NY, but no one in my parts GAS. There's code enforcement in NY, but no one here cares. My experience of living in NY isn't found on the chamber of commerce website, and is vastly different than one would be led to believe if reading statutes.

Is it neurotic to consider this stuff? Maybe I'm too risk adverse, but stories like DRich boggle me, at least if done at my age. Grip it and rip it seems a bit reckless when talking your forever home.
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January 22nd, 2020 at 1:06:48 PM permalink
Quote: Face

Yes, but I'm old now. Shooting from the hip is a young man's game.

The newspaper is a good idea.

Quote: TigerWu

Is this what you want? Pick two places, and it shows you cost of living comparisons for almost everything.



That is super helpful, but painfully narrow. There's a whole existence out there that has nothing to do with money.

I've already done the DRich portion, "the basics". And some of the larger "landscape" issues like gun laws, political atmosphere and whether they salt their freaking roads are sort of easy to find. But what about life's details? Can you collect rainwater? Open burn pits? Zone laws re: livestock? Building code?

You dig what I'm saying? Someone keen on the cowboy rancher lifestyle might want to move to Texas. He don't know nothing but he recognizes the name "Austin". So he steps off the plane in spurs and chaps and finds himself surrounded by IT nerds in cardigans and penny loafers. Whoops. That's perhaps an extreme example, but provides the point. It's illegal to ride ATV on the road in NY, but it's SOP here in my parts. It's illegal to keep wild animals in NY, but no one in my parts GAS. There's code enforcement in NY, but no one here cares. My experience of living in NY isn't found on the chamber of commerce website, and is vastly different than one would be led to believe if reading statutes.

Is it neurotic to consider this stuff? Maybe I'm too risk adverse, but stories like DRich boggle me, at least if done at my age. Grip it and rip it seems a bit reckless when talking your forever home.



Look at Montana, that seems like your kind of place. I know a little about it because I have family in both eastern Montana and Western Montana,
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January 22nd, 2020 at 1:26:26 PM permalink
How important is the weather... or having four seasons? I think Montana only has two: Winter and two weeks of Summer.
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January 22nd, 2020 at 2:27:30 PM permalink
Quote: DRich


Look at Montana, that seems like your kind of place. I know a little about it because I have family in both eastern Montana and Western Montana,



Oh, it very much is. Positively gorgeous, reasonable ATV culture, and a proper approach to gun law. But winter goes from September to May and their weed laws are straight out of the Old Testament. Those are both wholly disqualifying.

I've already got the wide angle down though. I would stay in Appalachia, that's not debatable. The area I got narrowed down to, basically smash a bingo dauber on Daniel Boone and Cherokee Nat'l Forests, draw a circle around the splatter, then cut Virginia out of the picture entirely. That's the general area where I'm lookin'. Away from the coast, in the woods with the other hill folk. It's just... how do you ensure they're the proper hillfolk? Ya dig what I'm saying? Like the open minded liberal tired of southern repression, so he moves to the bluest state on the East coast.... only to find that all of NY save the 5 buroughs is basically Northern Kentucky. I don't wanna go down thinking it's all moonshiners and meth heads and find I landed in the nation's largest Pentecostal commune, ya dig?

How do you get a feel of a place's culture, but remotely?
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January 22nd, 2020 at 3:15:27 PM permalink
Imo if you are going to move it would make sense to take a week vacation to that area and see what it is really like
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January 22nd, 2020 at 3:16:55 PM permalink
Quote: Face


How do you get a feel of a place's culture, but remotely?



All you can do is read read read. Then when you think you have a contender you must go and spend a week or two there and talk to real people.

Do you plan to work in Appalachia or have you saved enough of your Postal income to survive there?
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