2016 Election
Not because I have any animosity towards him (well, no more than I have towards any Republican in general...)
Just because I would love to see how he reacts. Ever since he got into the race he's been number 1 and he loves to brag about it. He acts as if it's his biggest qualification. "Well, I'm number one by a huge margin in the polls, so...."
From day 1 I never thought he was a serious candidate. I thought he was just in it for the attention. But then the right took him seriously and he has been in the lead for months now. I would love to see what will happen if the voters move on to someone else. Does he get desperate and say even crazier things? Does he start floating the 3rd party thing again to drum up some more attention?
Quote: EvenBobWhy does Trump need to change any minds?
All he needs to do is stay where he is, and that
was his strategy last night. The thing is his to
lose now. He wasn't 'making faces', that's him,
that's who he is. Not a stone faced politician
who keeps his emotions in check. It's why people
like and trust him.
The lead is never large enough,
the campaign is never done until the general election.
Nothing is in the bag.
People will get tired of some of his antics, so he
needs to put things out there that others will like to
replace the ones he looses.
He was making faces like a child. That fake look like he is paying attention.
Reminds me of Walter from Jeff Dunham...he looked like a dummy when he
did that look at Bush. It isn't exactly the look of someone paying attention;
it was a look of contempt.
"That's Trump" is okay for a guy who is going to be on TV--
It doesn't really look good for what he will do when talking to world
leaders.
Quote: terapinedI watched the 1st half hour of the debate and got bored.
All good questions.
No absurd twitter questions like that one by Megan Kelly or Kelly Megan whatever that non-journalist name is
I channeled surfed and watched Nova on PBS regarding the new fossil bone discovery regarding Homo Naledi.
I was blown away, incredible discovery regarding the origin of Man in South Africa.
What is sad is that just about everybody in the debate ignores science and prefers the make believe world of religion regarding the origin of man.
I cant vote for somebody that is into make believe religion rather then Science
I'm a Christian, watched that same Nova - DVRed it, -- the Blue Jays were playing -- (Nova was fascinating), and didn't really sway my belief. Modern-day Christians who understand science pretty much believe that the creation story is a parable.
Also sad are those in the debate who continue to scoff global warming (with the exception of Fiorina and Christie).
Debates in September 14 months before an election doesn't matter. The debates establishes and challenges the front-runners. Primaries matter and anything could happen. Just ask Howard Dean...
Meanwhile, on the Democratic front, we see Hilary continue to erode as she alienates "the American people". Meanwhile Biden is starting to impress. He understands both from the Trump surge and Hilary's failures (and perhaps even Obama's success) that Americans don't really want a career politician in office who has bamboozled the public and kissed the asses of corporations for their entire lives. Americans want someone different in office.
Quote: boymimboI'm a Christian, watched that same Nova - DVRed it, -- the Blue Jays were playing -- (Nova was fascinating), and didn't really sway my belief. Modern-day Christians who understand science pretty much believe that the creation story is a parable..
I was blown away by the Nova episode regarding the Rising Star cave system
Usually in these situations you might find a few bones.
This site, skeletons. Amazing. Everywhere they looked they found bones and teeth.
On top of that no animal bones. Incredible.
These distant human ancestors were burried. I am totally fascinated by this site
Quote: boymimbo
Also sad are those in the debate who continue to scoff global warming (with the exception of Fiorina and Christie). ..
What is sadder is there is absolutely no connection between Autism and Vaccines.
Carson should have responded stronger. He knows better
Even Rand Paul knows better, he got his kids vaccinated.
Unfortunately Rand does not understand the dangers to the Public health with unvaccinated kids running around in the schools.
Spreading the vaccines years apart puts the public health in danger.
Quote: boymimbo
Debates in September 14 months before an election doesn't matter. The debates establishes and challenges the front-runners. Primaries matter and anything could happen. Just ask Howard Dean.....
I think this election is different on the republican side regarding front runners.
Most past early front runners have been politicians that voters were not very familiar with.
This cycle we have Trump, the conservatives know Trump, his support is not going anywhere.
Quote: boymimbo
Meanwhile, on the Democratic front, we see Hilary continue to erode as she alienates "the American people". Meanwhile Biden is starting to impress. He understands both from the Trump surge and Hilary's failures (and perhaps even Obama's success) that Americans don't really want a career politician in office who has bamboozled the public and kissed the asses of corporations for their entire lives. Americans want someone different in office.
I would like to see Biden run or Omalley rise in the polls.
Repubs, 28% said Firorina won the debate, 24% said
Trump won. However, in the same poll:
"Trump continues to lead the Republican primary field. Thirty-six percent of registered voters who watched the debate said they would choose Trump, compared with 12 percent for Carson and 10 percent for Fiorina. Rubio placed fourth, at 9 percent, followed by 7 percent for Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and 6 percent for Bush and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie"
In a similar poll by the same company taken
the day before the debate, Trump was at 33%
and Carson was 17%. After the debate, Trump
increased and Carson fell.
I can't believe how low Bush is in every poll.
Nobody likes him, apparently. I've never
liked him, even when he was governor of FL.
But I never really liked George Bush either.
Quote: terapinedWhat is sadder is there is absolutely no connection between Autism and Vaccines. Carson should have responded stronger. he knows better.
Trump, Dr. Carson and Dr. Paul all agreed that vaccines are beneficial and necessary, and they all agreed that spreading them out over time was safer than overloading an infant's immune defenses with a horse needle.
As for your no connection between autism and vaccines opinion:
CDC Scientist admits coverup of autism MMR/causation
President Obama grants immunity to CDC whistleblower
Few people are aware that a Vaccine Injury Court was established by the Federal government to compensate people who have suffered adverse effects from vaccines.
If vaccines were safe, why would we need a special court?
The live MMR vaccine contains the lung tissue from a male fetus that was aborted due to maternal psychiatric reasons in 1966. The MMR2 vaccine contains lung tissue cells from an aborted female fetus.
These self-perpetuating cells are used to grow the live virus and currently human DNA is used in 23 different vaccines.
The body recognizes the foreign DNA and attacks it.
What if some infants and children do not have immune defenses that are strong enough to eradicate all the foreign DNA?
What if that foreign human DNA is somehow incorporated into the host DNA.
Perhaps the DNA from that male fetus whose mother had psychiatric problems is the cause of autism in one in fifty male babies.
So, what is that millions of vaccinations vs. what.
There's more chance of Dice Influencing working as a winning system.
Anyway, what do people expect? Is there really a significant risk.
I'd say there is always a risk in just about anything.
But is there a significant risk vs reward here? If there is no approved plan for spreading vaccinations out, it is probably due to the risk vs. reward.
People on this site should understand such a concept -- you would think.
Quote: rxwineFrom what I read of the "Autism Court", of 4 cases, they settled without admitting a cause. And one is sealed.
So, what is that millions of vaccinations vs. what.
There's more chance of Dice Influencing working as a winning system.
Anyway, what do people expect? Is there really a significant risk.
I'd say there is always a risk in just about anything.
But is there a significant risk vs reward here? If there is no approved plan for spreading vaccinations out, it is probably due to the risk vs. reward.
People on this site should understand such a concept -- you would think.
+1, great logic as always rxwine
Tanko references links to extreme sites regarding autism and vaccines
Here is a more even handed article looking at the issue from WebMD sifting through all the BS to get to the truth
http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/searching-for-answers/vaccines-autism
Quote: terapinedsifting through all the BS to get to the truth
The 'truth' is, Big Pharm has everybody
in their pocket. Politicians, doctors,
panels. The truth is, there is a chance
a kid will end up autistic after a vaccination,
but it's a small one. Much better to say
there is no chance at all than to scare
people with the truth. If I had a two year
old and my doc told me there was a
small chance, I would tell him to F off.
Wouldn't you?
Quote: terapinedI watched the 1st half hour of the debate and got bored.
All good questions.
No absurd twitter questions like that one by Megan Kelly or Kelly Megan whatever that non-journalist name is
I channeled surfed and watched Nova on PBS regarding the new fossil bone discovery regarding Homo Naledi.
I was blown away, incredible discovery regarding the origin of Man in South Africa.
What is sad is that just about everybody in the debate ignores science and prefers the make believe world of religion regarding the origin of man.
I cant vote for somebody that is into make believe religion rather then Science
Too bad you couldn't vote for Nobama and can't for HRC.
If you hold out for an atheist fundamentalist nutjob you'll have to vote Socialist Workers.
Quote: bobsimsToo bad you couldn't vote for Nobama and can't for HRC.
If you hold out for an atheist fundamentalist nutjob you'll have to vote Socialist Workers.
??
Voting for Trump in the Republican Florida primary
I am a member of the party so I have a vote to cast
Presidential Election, I'll vote for whoever wins the Dem nomination, Hill, Biden, Omally or Bernie
Quote: terapined??
Voting for Trump in the Republican Florida primary
I am a member of the party so I have a vote to cast
Presidential Election, I'll vote for whoever wins the Dem nomination, Hill, Biden, Omally or Bernie
Maybe just me, but I find that to be an odd stance. You are registered Rep, and will vote for Trump in Primary, but will vote for whatever Dem in general election? What's up with all that? You trying to skew the primary and then slyly return to vote Dem? Or what? Just wondering.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLYou trying to skew the primary and then slyly return to vote Dem?.
:-)
Quote: terapined:-)
I'm tempted to say that influencing who will be the Democratic nominee might be more productive, but then I look at your choices. Pls do not plunge onto your own sword. It's not that bad, yet... ;-)
Quote: rxwineSo, what is that millions of vaccinations vs. what.
Versus one in fifty boys diagnosed with autism.
Quote: TankoVersus one in fifty boys diagnosed with autism.
There is not even a money advantage to the argument that vaccines should be spread out. KIds still end up getting the same number of vaccines even when you do it that way and big pharma makes the same either way.
So, it doesn't even have a good motive to cover up any obvious evidence, if there were such.
the story about how Trump didn't defend
Obama at a town hall on Thurs. Trump
said nothing wrong, but apparently he
was supposed to defend Muslims and
Obama. And he didn't attend the
political thing today with the other
candidates that he had already backed
out of before yesterdays town hall.
The networks all said he didn't attend
because of the town hall question.
The networks are so desperate, they
actually made a story out of this,
they think they can make it look like
Trump said it and not a questioner.
Quote: EvenBobThe networks are so desperate, they
actually made a story out of this,
they think they can make it look like
Trump said it and not a questioner.
The networks were right to show Trump not repudiate the question, as McCain did with a similar question. At least we can clearly see now the kind of crowd that is backing Trump.
I'll say one thing in his favor -- at least Trump isn't falling in love with Kim Davis like many of his competitors are. It would be hard to pick the least evil in this bunch. If forced, Jeb, by default.
Quote: boymimboMeanwhile Biden is starting to impress.
I dunno, Biden sometimes does weird stuff. Maybe it's trivial, and not important in the grand scheme of things. But if I'm being consistent, I can't complain about Trump's poor judgement without also acknowledging Biden's occasionally undignified behavior.
Quote: WizardThe networks were right to show Trump not repudiate the question,
Oh bullshite. Did the media jump on Obama
in 2008 for not repudiating Rev Wright for
the 20 years Obama sat in the front row
listening to Wright bash America? They
said nothing.
Quote: EvenBobOh bullshite. Did the media jump on Obama
in 2008 for not repudiating Rev Wright for
the 20 years Obama sat in the front row
listening to Wright bash America? They
said nothing.
Rev Wright is an American hero
So trusted, he was on the medical team that operated on President Johnson
Quote: terapinedRev Wright is an American hero
lol
Quote: EvenBobOh bullshite. Did the media jump on Obama
in 2008 for not repudiating Rev Wright for
the 20 years Obama sat in the front row
listening to Wright bash America? They
said nothing.
I wasn't ever concerned that Obama was somehow a Muslim.
I did worry about the preaching that he listened to for 20 years.
We often hear these days about how bad Christians are these days because some oppose gay marriage on biblical grounds. Kind of funny to hear that from people who thought it was okay to have a President who listened to racially-charged divisive sermons for years on end.
Quote: WizardAt least we can clearly see now the kind of crowd that is backing Trump.
One unidentified guy, who may have been planted by the opposition, or the RNC, or the media, makes anti-Muslim comments, and according to your logic, this one person out of millions of Trump supporters allows us to 'clearly see the kind of crowd that is backing Trump'.
Quote: EvenBobOh bullshite. Did the media jump on Obama
in 2008 for not repudiating Rev Wright for
the 20 years Obama sat in the front row
listening to Wright bash America? They
said nothing.
Funny, going to church for years and listening to crap is the same way I ended up NOT believing a lot of things said there.
Quote: RonCI wasn't ever concerned that Obama was somehow a Muslim.
I did worry about the preaching that he listened to for 20 years.
We often hear these days about how bad Christians are these days because some oppose gay marriage on biblical grounds..
I don't think Christians are bad because they oppose gay marriage.
I am fine with it.
I'm an atheist. Too me its all make believe.
The problem is when you impose make believe religious values on those that want to be free from make believe BS.
Some Christians want to take away my rights due to their make believe religious values. That is the bad part.
Against gay marriage-ok.
taking away rights - bad
Quote: RonC
Kind of funny to hear that from people who thought it was okay to have a President who listened to racially-charged divisive sermons for years on end.
A US Marine that becomes a Dr and is on the team that operates on a President.
An incredibly accomplished man.
He certainly has faced racism simply due to the color of his skin.
I could care less what is spoken at the sermons
I'm an atheist, its all make believe.
Quote: WizardThe networks were right to show Trump not repudiate the question, as McCain did with a similar question. At least we can clearly see now the kind of crowd that is backing Trump.
It is not Trump's job to defend Obama nor any Democrat.
The reality is that Obama has a high number of people who believe he is a muslim (include me here) because of how he acts towards muslims (endless praise) and how he behaves towards Christians (clinging to guns and religion.) He even said he was a muslim on TV! Call that a slip if you like, but I never have said I was Jewish or Protestant by mistake. At the least Obama has no faith and went to church simply to look a certain way.
Let Obama defend Obama, let Trump run his campaign.
Quote: AZDuffmanThe reality is that Obama has a high number of people who believe he is a muslim (include me here) because of how he acts towards muslims (endless praise) and how he behaves towards Christians (clinging to guns and religion.)
What is wrong with praising Muslims??
I'm an atheist. I think all religion is nonsense. But the constant "my religion is better than yours!" we see from all sides is stupid. Especially when the one side (Christians) seems to want the President to bash another (Muslims).
P.S. - the "cling to their guns and religion" thing from Obama is one of my all-time favorite things he has said. It's true!! It was a breath of fresh air to hear that come out of a Presidential candidate's mouth.
Quote: EvenBobAnd he didn't attend the
political thing today with the other
candidates that he had already backed
out of before yesterdays town hall.
The networks all said he didn't attend
because of the town hall question.
Rachel Maddow made a good case last night that the reason he backed out is he was simply exhausted. Campaigning is hard, and Trump isn't used to it. To say he backed out because of the town hall question makes no sense - Trump isn't one to shy away from controversy.
He's official excuse was he was completing a major "business transaction." Sounds like major B.S. to me.
Quote: ams288What is wrong with praising Muslims??
I am surprised you would ask what is wrong with a religion that advocates death for homosexuality! You did know that, didn't you?
My issue is why would a POTUS praise a religion with leaders who advocate Death to America. It is as if one praised fascism or communism in their eras.
Quote:P.S. - the "cling to their guns and religion" thing from Obama is one of my all-time favorite things he has said. It's true!! It was a breath of fresh air to hear that come out of a Presidential candidate's mouth.
It was nothing more than left-wing hate talk, the base ate it up.
Quote: AZDuffmanI am surprised you would ask what is wrong with a religion that advocates death for homosexuality! You did know that, didn't you?
Of course I did. Trust me, I'm no staunch defender of Islam.
I just find it hypocritical when one religion bashes another.
As I said, all religion is nonsense.
Quote: ams288Of course I did. Trust me, I'm no staunch defender of Islam.
I just find it hypocritical when one religion bashes another.
Pointing out the realities and dangers of islam is not "bashing." It is a warning. Some of us are just trying to warn the rest. Too many of the rest of us want to ignore the warnings. My sig says it all.
Quote: AZDuffmanIt is not Trump's job to defend Obama nor any Democrat.
The reality is that Obama has a high number of people who believe he is a muslim (include me here) because of how he acts towards muslims (endless praise) and how he behaves towards Christians (clinging to guns and religion.) He even said he was a muslim on TV! Call that a slip if you like, but I never have said I was Jewish or Protestant by mistake. At the least Obama has no faith and went to church simply to look a certain way.
Let Obama defend Obama, let Trump run his campaign.
OMG
According to AZ I'm a Muslim
LOL
I work with Muslims. Good people. (endless praise)
I cant stand gun toting Christians and religious people like Ms Davis that tries to take away rights due some make believe BS
I am announcing on this forum, I am not a Muslim, but due to my beliefs, AZ believes I'm a Muslim
I absolutely have no faith.
All this religious stuff, Christians, Jews, Muslims, its all make believe crap
By the way in this instance, I am not a Muslim, just like Obama is not a Muslim :-)
Quote: terapined
All this religious stuff, Christians, Jews, Muslims, its all make believe crap
So, then, why do you praise one and condemn the others?
Wright was not a physician. He was a Navy corpsman.Quote: terapinedA US Marine that becomes a Dr
What do they say about Sharia?Quote: terapinedI work with Muslims. Good people. (endless praise)
Quote: SanchoPanzaWright was not a physician. He was a Navy corpsman.
I never claimed he was a physician
My father earned a doctorate and he certainly wasn't a physician.
He did the work, he earned the title to be called DR.
One of my favorite bluegrass musicians, Doc Watson, was certainly not a DR
from Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Wright
"Wright was then trained as a cardiopulmonary technician at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland. Wright was assigned as part of the medical team charged with care of President Lyndon B. Johnson (see photo of Wright caring for Johnson after his 1966 surgery). Before leaving the position in 1967, the White House Physician, Vice Admiral Burkley, personally wrote Wright a letter of thanks on behalf of the United States President"
"Wright holds a Doctor of Ministry degree (1990) from the United Theological Seminary in Dayton, Ohio"
But he is certainly far more a Muslim sympathizer than he is toward any other faith.Quote: ams288I think Obama is way more likely to be an Athiest than a Muslim.
Quote: SanchoPanzaWhat do they say about Sharia?
They ignore it just as Christians ignore tons of stuff in the bible.
When you interact with people of different cultures, you soon find out they are just regular folks like you and me
In the context of discussing the medical care of the president of the U.S., writing "Dr" without the qualification of something other than a medical degree is most certainly misleading, whether intentionally or not.Quote: terapinedI never claimed he was a physician"
Quote: SanchoPanzaIn the context of discussing the medical care of the president of the U.S., writing "Dr" without the qualification of something other than a medical degree is most certainly misleading, whether intentionally or not.
A little honesty :-)
When I learned he was on the medical team that operated on President Johnson, I wrongly assumed he was a DR.
After your response, I looked into it more closely and saw you were right but what saved me is that he did eventually earn a doctorate.
So in the end
you are correct
and
I was misleadingly correct :-)
Quote: AZDuffmanPointing out the realities and dangers of islam is not "bashing." It is a warning. Some of us are just trying to warn the rest. Too many of the rest of us want to ignore the warnings.
That guy at the Trump rally was spot on.
It's called a 'Hidjrah'. Jihad by emmigration.
Koran 4:100
"He who emigrates (from his home) in the Cause of Allah, will find on earth many dwelling places and plenty to live by."...
This is how they repay their saviors:
Note that he gave this speech on September 11th.
Quote: SanchoPanzaBut he is certainly far more a Muslim sympathizer than he is toward any other faith.
And no one has given a compelling reason as to why that would be a bad thing.
It is not a "good thing" when he is far more sympathetic to one religion and continually deprecates and depreciates those faiths that he clearly does not like so much.Quote: ams288And no one has given a compelling reason as to why that would be a bad thing.
Quote: SanchoPanzaIt is not a "good thing" when he is far more sympathetic to one religion and continually deprecates and depreciates those faiths that he clearly does not like so much.
Well, it looks like my statement still stands:
No one has given a compelling reason as to why that would be a bad thing.
Quote: SanchoPanzaIt is not a "good thing" when he is far more sympathetic to one religion and continually deprecates and depreciates those faiths that he clearly does not like so much.
You mean conservatism?
Quote: TankoThat guy at the Trump rally was spot on.
It's called a 'Hidjrah'. Jihad by emmigration.
Koran 4:100
"He who emigrates (from his home) in the Cause of Allah, will find on earth many dwelling places and plenty to live by."...
This is how they repay their saviors:
Note that he gave this speech on September 11th.
Big deal, Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell blamed America for 9/11
Its AMERICA's fault?????
According to these Christians, America and God caused 9 11
The difference between you and me is that you think Muslin extremists represent all Muslims.
I am smart enough to know that fantasy believing kooks such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson don't represent Christians
Quote: ams288Well, it looks like my statement still stands:
No one has given a compelling reason as to why that would be a bad thing.
Lets see, being sympathetic to the faith that shouts "DEATH TO AMERICA" while deprecating the faith of the majority off the country and that harms nobody.
Seems pretty compelling, or at least should to any rational person.
Or if it applies, he is sympathetic to the religion that kills homosexuals and deprecates the one that is just against gay marriage, as he was until at least 2010!
Compelling enough?
