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June 26th, 2013 at 10:42:44 PM permalink
Isn't it ironic that no company wants to touch Paula Deen now, yet a very visible organization like the NFL—and now ESPN—had no problems being associated with Ray Lewis (after the murder incident)?
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June 26th, 2013 at 11:14:19 PM permalink
The Paula Deen thread is on Diversity Tomorrow NOT on the gambling site.
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June 26th, 2013 at 11:18:38 PM permalink
I don't see any harm in posting about Paula Deen here in the Off-Topic thread, especially when there are a bunch of other non-gambling threads like gay marriage, the NFL, the Forbes list, Edward Snowden, etc.
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June 27th, 2013 at 3:18:49 AM permalink
This definitely does not fit the definition of irony.
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June 27th, 2013 at 3:25:02 AM permalink
Who cares if Ray murdered anyone? I need to know, no demand to know, if he's ever used the N word.
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June 27th, 2013 at 3:31:24 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Isn't it ironic that no company wants to touch Paula Deen now, yet a very visible organization like the NFL—and now ESPN—had no problems being associated with Ray Lewis (after the murder incident)?



Words today are worse than actions--didn't you see the NFL thread? It is worse to say a QB is not as good as the media says he is but kill dogs or shoot yourself in a bar you have no problem.
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June 27th, 2013 at 6:42:07 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

This definitely does not fit the definition of irony.




Definition #5 of 'irony' from Dictionary.com:

Quote: Dictionary.com

i·ro·ny - an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected



I think the outcome of the Paula Deen incident is most definitely contrary to what was expected considering what happened to Lewis.
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June 27th, 2013 at 6:46:36 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

I think the outcome of the Paula Deen incident is most definitely contrary to what was expected considering what happened to Lewis.

Quote: Dictionary.com

i·ro·ny - an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected



I disagree with your statement, and I know that anyone that understands the definition of irony, agrees with me. This would be ironic, I think:

Paula Deen kills Ray Lewis, and then becomes a commentator for ESPN, taking his place.

The irony thing confuses me, but I know Ode to Joy has it wrong. Any one else care to weigh in?
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June 27th, 2013 at 6:49:14 AM permalink
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It is worse to say a QB is not as good as the media says he is but kill dogs or shoot yourself in a bar you have no problem.


Ah, I totally forgot about the whole Rush Limbaugh ordeal! The NFL is a complete joke. (I guess, in their defense, there are many other organizations that are jokes as well.)

I just find it so ridiculous how liberals get their panties all ruffled when people like Deen & Limbaugh say something "wrong", yet if you commit a crime it's all good.
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June 27th, 2013 at 6:53:00 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

I disagree with your statement, and I know that anyone that understands the definition of irony, agrees with me. This would be ironic, I think:

Paula Deen kills Ray Lewis, and then becomes a commentator for ESPN, taking his place.

The irony thing confuses me, but I know Ode to Joy has it wrong. Any one else care to weigh in?


Here's what I said: "Isn't it ironic that no company wants to touch Paula Deen now...?" And then I went on to mention the Ray Lewis thing.

Then again, I guess it's not ironic if you feel that the treatment of Deen is justified. (BTW, Dictionary.com is a pretty reliable source for definitions.)
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June 27th, 2013 at 7:03:46 AM permalink
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June 27th, 2013 at 7:12:33 AM permalink
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Caesars is shuting down or taking her name off the buffet at Horseshoe Southern Indiana.


Geez, so ridiculous. *facepalm*

Hell, she would have been better off dealing drugs. (50 Cent, Tim Allen, etc.)
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June 27th, 2013 at 7:52:12 AM permalink
So the correct answer would be to lie during deposition.
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June 27th, 2013 at 8:00:13 AM permalink
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Geez, so ridiculous. *facepalm*

Hell, she would have been better off dealing drugs. (50 Cent, Tim Allen, etc.)



Why is it ridiculous? Caesars has decided that they will make more money with her name off the buffet than on it.
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June 27th, 2013 at 8:04:15 AM permalink
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Why is it ridiculous? Caesars has decided that they will make more money with her name off the buffet than on it.


Exactly. It's ridiculous that companies will try making money off of criminals, yet they'll stop trying when it comes to people who utter "bad" words.
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June 27th, 2013 at 8:04:58 AM permalink
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June 27th, 2013 at 8:14:02 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Exactly. It's ridiculous that companies will try making money off of criminals, yet they'll stop trying when it comes to people who utter "bad" words.



ESPN employs Ray Lewis because people don't care enough to boycott him. You're blaming the wrong part of the equation.

Either way, it's not ironic :)
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June 27th, 2013 at 8:17:00 AM permalink
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ESPN employs Ray Lewis because people don't care enough to boycott him. You're blaming the wrong part of the equation.


Perhaps I missed the big boycott against Paula Deen? Links, please.


Quote: FinsRule

Either way, it's not ironic :)


According to definition #5 on Dictionary.com, it is. ;)


(That is, unless one agrees with the treatment of her)
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June 27th, 2013 at 8:19:31 AM permalink
Quote: Sabretom2

So the correct answer would be to lie during deposition.



Why not, as long as it is "your personal life" and they haven't defined "is."
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June 27th, 2013 at 8:31:30 AM permalink
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Perhaps I missed the big boycott against Paula Deen? Links, please.



According to definition #5 on Dictionary.com, it is. ;)


(That is, unless one agrees with the treatment of her)



I'm not sure if my dislike of Paula Deen is clouding whether or not I think it's fair. But I'm happy that this is happening to her.
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June 27th, 2013 at 8:34:57 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

I'm not sure if my dislike of Paula Deen is clouding whether or not I think it's fair. But I'm happy that this is happening to her.


OK, so you agree with the treatment she has received. I can see why you find no irony here.
(For the record, I actually don't like her either)
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June 27th, 2013 at 8:45:55 AM permalink
I agree with the treatment she has received, and I think Ray Lewis should probably be in jail or at least had served some serious time.
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June 27th, 2013 at 11:15:40 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Exactly. It's ridiculous that companies will try making money off of criminals, yet they'll stop trying when it comes to people who utter "bad" words.



Wait. No. Not exactly. Your logic is flawed. Horseshoe has determined that they'll make less money with Ms. Deen's name on the buffet than with her name off it. It's not that they don't want to make money using her name, it's that they think her name is costing them money. That's a byproduct of the stupidity of society. The corporation is reacting to, not causing, the idiocy in this case.
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June 27th, 2013 at 11:22:15 AM permalink
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Wait. No. Not exactly. Your logic is flawed. Horseshoe has determined that they'll make less money with Ms. Deen's name on the buffet than with her name off it. It's not that they don't want to make money using her name, it's that they think her name is costing them money. That's a byproduct of the stupidity of society. The corporation is reacting to, not causing, the idiocy in this case.



The buffet -assumes- that it will make less money. It might not. Who really knows?

The corporation might be stupid, the people might be, or the whole darn world might be making stupid assumptions.
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June 27th, 2013 at 11:52:18 AM permalink
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The corporation might be stupid, the people might be, or the whole darn world might be making stupid assumptions.



Everybody knows that the world is full of stupid people. So meet me at the mission at midnight. We'll divvy up there...
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June 27th, 2013 at 12:40:07 PM permalink
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Everybody knows that the world is full of stupid people. So meet me at the mission at midnight. We'll divvy up there...



It was midnight in the Mission, and the bell(e)s were not for me...
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June 27th, 2013 at 12:47:41 PM permalink
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It was midnight in the Mission, and the bell(e)s were not for me...



Well played!
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June 27th, 2013 at 12:56:30 PM permalink
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Wait. No. Not exactly. Your logic is flawed. Horseshoe has determined that they'll make less money with Ms. Deen's name on the buffet than with her name off it.


The only problem with this explanation is that it wasn't the explanation that was given. The "outrage" is all media-driven. Nobody's out there boycotting Paula Deen or even advocating a boycott. Liberals are just being bullies..........again.
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June 27th, 2013 at 12:58:42 PM permalink
I cringe when she appears on the Food Network.
She sounds so phoney with that gushy mush mouth
Southern accent that she plays to the hilt.
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June 27th, 2013 at 1:00:38 PM permalink
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I cringe when she appears on the Food Network.
She sounds so phoney with that gushy mush mouth
Southern accent that she plays to the hilt.


I've never cared for her, either. In fact, I always turn the station whenever she comes on. I do kinda feel sorry for her though.
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June 27th, 2013 at 1:07:04 PM permalink
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Nobody's out there boycotting Paula Deen or even advocating a boycott.


I would argue that the corporations who were formerly associated with her are the ones who are most likely to be seen as organizing a boycott of Ms. Deen.

Quote: Beethoven9th

Liberals are just being bullies..........again.



Isn't this a group of conservatives who are doing the bullying? Caesars, Macy's, Smithfield...which of those companies is controlled by liberals?
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June 27th, 2013 at 1:18:54 PM permalink
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Isn't this a group of conservatives who are doing the bullying? Caesars, Macy's, Smithfield...which of those companies is controlled by liberals?



Conservatives control these companies? Where do you get that idea? I have never heard of this. They are publicly traded companies, most "conservative" companies are privately held (eg: Chick-Fil-A, Hobby Lobby.)
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June 27th, 2013 at 1:20:35 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

I would argue that the corporations who were formerly associated with her are the ones who are most likely to be seen as organizing a boycott of Ms. Deen.

So they're dropping her because of a boycott...which is being organized by themselves? OK...


Quote: rdw4potus

Isn't this a group of conservatives who are doing the bullying? Caesars, Macy's, Smithfield...which of those companies is controlled by liberals?

I certainly don't see any conservatives whining about her. Only liberals. The same type who whined about Rush Limbaugh after he expressed interest in becoming an NFL owner.
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June 27th, 2013 at 1:27:27 PM permalink
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Conservatives control these companies? Where do you get that idea? I have never heard of this. They are publicly traded companies, most "conservative" companies are privately held (eg: Chick-Fil-A, Hobby Lobby.)



So, you wouldn't call Google or Oracle a liberal-controlled company? You would, you have, and you know it.

And I'm not really sure how you think public corporations work, but the officers and the board have all the power. Shareholders certainly didn't vote on whether or not to remove Ms. Deen's name from the buffet at HSI...
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June 27th, 2013 at 1:29:43 PM permalink
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So, you wouldn't call Google or Oracle a liberal-controlled company? You would, you have, and you know it.

And I'm not really sure how you think public corporations work, but the officers and the board have all the power. Shareholders certainly didn't vote on whether or not to remove Ms. Deen's name from the buffet at HSI...



Google makes no bones about being liberal, but what I want to know is what behavior of the aforesaid companies makes you say they are controlled by conservatives?
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June 27th, 2013 at 2:02:30 PM permalink
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Everybody knows that the world is full of stupid people. So meet me at the mission at midnight. We'll divvy up there...

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June 27th, 2013 at 2:43:39 PM permalink
I don't get the whole conservative liberal comparison. If you're selling a boner pill, you don't worry about what Nuns think about it.
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June 27th, 2013 at 3:08:00 PM permalink
So much for the "outrage" against Paula Deen: Paula Deen Surges Past 'Game of Thrones' to Top Spot on Amazon LOL!!
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