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March 12th, 2012 at 4:23:56 PM permalink
I am back in school at age 71 . Culinary arts no less. Going with my physco-effective daughter who wants to get off of disability.
Sometimes she has to take ambien to sleep and is groggy in the AM. So I sometimes stop at Maverick to get her a 5 hour energy drink.
Last time I was there there had a new brand. Similar size and shape And 1.99 versus 2.99. The name " TWEAKERS"
I guess Meth Heads was alrady taken. GRRRR!!!
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March 13th, 2012 at 9:08:07 AM permalink
Seems petty to me. They bring in a product that might save you a buck a day and you boycott them? I guess I don't get it.
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March 13th, 2012 at 10:08:16 AM permalink
I here I thought I was being a tough t1tty since I won't stay or play at Venitian/Palazzo because of the pr1ck Adelson.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
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March 13th, 2012 at 10:31:00 AM permalink
Hey, Mesa county has enough trouble with tweakers and meth labs, pissed me off some asshole thinks it's ok as long as he can make a buck off of kids stupidity. F*** him.
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April 21st, 2012 at 6:30:47 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

I here I thought I was being a tough t1tty since I won't stay or play at Venitian/Palazzo because of the pr1ck Adelson.





OMG - I have been boycotting it since I saw him on a show about the grand opening (although - I do eat at Emeril's steakhouse there)
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April 21st, 2012 at 6:34:11 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

OMG - I have been boycotting it since I saw him on a show about the grand opening (although - I do eat at Emeril's steakhouse there)

Shhh! The Wizard is his minion now!!
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
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April 21st, 2012 at 6:39:48 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

Shhh! The Wizard is his minion now!!




Ohhhh - that's right (still love you Wiz)
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April 21st, 2012 at 6:51:47 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Ohhhh - that's right (still love you Wiz)

That's okay, I found a new casino owner to gesticulate wildly at. The Station Casinos (I'll find out who own it sooner or later) is illegally harassing their casino employees because they're organizing into a union. They are concentrating on the Hispanic casino employees Since my last name ends in a Z, I find this especially deplorable.

I almost stayed with them this summer! I'm glad I stumbled across that bit of news before booking.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
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April 21st, 2012 at 6:58:02 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

That's okay, I found a new casino owner to gesticulate wildly at. The Station Casinos (I'll find out who own it sooner or later) is illegally harassing their casino employees because they're organizing into a union. They are concentrating on the Hispanic casino employees Since my last name ends in a Z, I find this especially deplorable.

I almost stayed with them this summer! I'm glad I stumbled across that bit of news before booking.




I tend to play where I stay when I am in Vegas (assuming, of course, I find a table with proper rules for blackjack)
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April 21st, 2012 at 6:58:29 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

That's okay, I found a new casino owner to gesticulate wildly at. The Station Casinos (I'll find out who own it sooner or later) is illegally harassing their casino employees because they're organizing into a union. They are concentrating on the Hispanic casino employees Since my last name ends in a Z, I find this especially deplorable.

I almost stayed with them this summer! I'm glad I stumbled across that bit of news before booking.

It is becoming a nasty fight. Both sides are dug in at this point. Mud is slinging from both sides:

Could be the biggest labor fight the town has seen since the New Frontier picket. Station Casinos is controlled by the Fertitta family. Culinary 226 represents food, housekeeping, and maintenance workers at most, but not all, Las Vegas casinos.

The fight is about whether to allow an election via card check vs. secret ballot.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
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April 21st, 2012 at 7:03:11 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Could be the biggest labor fight the town has seen since the New Frontier picket. Station Casinos is controlled by the Fertitta family.

Now that this thread is totally derailed, I want to know, is the East Side Cannery having any labor problems? It looks like a nice place to stay and I'll be in Vegas for a week in July doing some serious house hunting so I want to stay off the strip.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
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April 21st, 2012 at 7:29:07 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

Now that this thread is totally derailed, I want to know, is the East Side Cannery having any labor problems? It looks like a nice place to stay and I'll be in Vegas for a week in July doing some serious house hunting so I want to stay off the strip.

PLEASE DO NOT PATRONIZE LIST
Las Vegas Hotels, Casinos & Businesses
Alliante Station Palace Station
Arizona Charlies's East & West Palazzo
Boulder Station Palms Hotel & Casino
Cannery Casino (N. Las Vegas) Red Rock Casino
Eastside Cannery Casino Santa Fe Station
Fiesta Henderson Hotel & Casino South Point
Fiesta Rancho Hotel & Casino Suncoast
Gold Coast Sunset Station
Green Valley Ranch Texas Station
Hard Rock Hotel & Casino The Orleans
Imperial Palace Venetian Hotel & Casino
Las Vegas Country Club Wild Wild West
M Resort

Take that as you will. All this means is that they are not unionized.
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April 21st, 2012 at 7:44:22 PM permalink
They have gas stations named after the old
TV show 'Maverick'? Is there pic of James
Garner inside?
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April 21st, 2012 at 8:07:08 PM permalink
I knew I was getting old when James Garner started playing grandfathers in the movies. On Netflix when you genre, westerns is not even listed.
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April 21st, 2012 at 8:16:01 PM permalink
Are the unions serving the casinos in Las Vegas still controlled by the mafia?
"What, me worry?"
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April 21st, 2012 at 8:17:25 PM permalink
Are the casino's controlled by thieves bigger than the mafia ?
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April 21st, 2012 at 9:04:08 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

PLEASE DO NOT PATRONIZE LIST
...
Imperial Palace
...
Take that as you will. All this means is that they are not unionized.

Of all the hotels in all of Harrah's Las Vegas empire, Imperial Palace is the one that isn't unionized? That explains the state of the elevators!
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
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April 21st, 2012 at 9:52:00 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

PLEASE DO NOT PATRONIZE LIST
Las Vegas Hotels, Casinos & Businesses
Alliante Station Palace Station
Arizona Charlies's East & West Palazzo
Boulder Station Palms Hotel & Casino
Cannery Casino (N. Las Vegas) Red Rock Casino
Eastside Cannery Casino Santa Fe Station
Fiesta Henderson Hotel & Casino South Point
Fiesta Rancho Hotel & Casino Suncoast
Gold Coast Sunset Station
Green Valley Ranch Texas Station
Hard Rock Hotel & Casino The Orleans
Imperial Palace Venetian Hotel & Casino
Las Vegas Country Club Wild Wild West
M Resort

Take that as you will. All this means is that they are not unionized.



Thank you for giving me the list I'll choose from during my next Vegas trip.
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April 22nd, 2012 at 11:02:28 AM permalink
Frank J. Fertitta III is current CEO of Station Casinos.
He is also an owner of Zuffa LLC, which is the entity that runs the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC).
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief. - Proverb.
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April 22nd, 2012 at 12:19:16 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

The fight is about whether to allow an election via card check vs. secret ballot.



I'm not sure I understand what this means. Certainly the American
Way is that when you vote, who/what you cast your ballot for is
secret, right ? ? ?
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April 22nd, 2012 at 1:03:42 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

I'm not sure I understand what this means. Certainly the American
Way is that when you vote, who/what you cast your ballot for is
secret, right ? ? ?

There are two ways to get a union certified in the private sector. The traditional way is the NLRA (National Labor Relations Act) model where the employees circulate a petition that must get 30% support for the union. The employer must then allow a secret ballot election after which if a majority of employees vote "yes," the union is certified.

The second method is through "card check" where the second step (the election) is bypassed. The majority of employees show support for the union through checking a card. The cards are submitted to the NRLB (National Labor Relations Board), who certifies the results without disclosing them to the employer. At this point, the employer MAY choose to bypass the election process and recognize the union. Or the NRLB MAY choose to certify the union of its own accord if it believes the employer is engaging in unfair labor practices (union busting).

So the Culinary Union is trying to get recognized through card check while Stations wants an election. Oh, by the way, either party can contest the results at every step which is why it takes forever.
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April 22nd, 2012 at 2:13:25 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

So the Culinary Union is trying to get recognized through card check while Stations wants an election.


I know nothing about the unionization effort at Stations, so this comment is just in general.

In some situations, there are employees who do not want a union but who do not wish to appear anti-union, since that could hurt them if a union is later certified. Such employees would prefer a secret ballot so that they could vote against the union without risk of repercussions. On the chance that employees feel that way, the employer would prefer the secret ballot (get those no-union votes), but the union itself would prefer the card check method, so that they can make sure how the employees are voting prior to submitting cards to the NLRB.

In many non-unionized organizations, employees feel that the best location for the union is "just outside the door." They may view unionization as not all that good a thing, provided the employer is treating them well without a union. However, if a union is persistently trying to organize them, the employer is more motivated to pay attention to employee needs in the non-union environment -- keep them happy (enough) so they won't vote in a union. With the union "just outside the door", the employees may feel they draw the benefits without paying dues to the union.

The two down sides of that condition are that (1) some employers would rather fight a union than take care of their employees and (2) active unionization efforts tend to create conflict, or at least a shaky relationship, between employers and some of the employees. What the employees would really like is an employer who tries hard to treat them so that they do not want/need a union.
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April 25th, 2012 at 1:03:48 PM permalink
As a Chief Shop Steward for 30+ years in CWA, let me say that almost all rank and file members are against card check.
We believe in the right of the secret ballot.

The last contract i worked under was the result of the Executive Board settling as soon as At&T agreed to card check. This was
despite a promise to bring the offer back to us before signing off.

Then when AT&T did not live up to the card check agreement, we were asked to picket. Our answer NO F****** WAY !!
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