NorthJerseyGirl
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July 20th, 2011 at 4:52:53 PM permalink
I was wondering how everyone feels about being forced to give up one of your two hands (@ a Blackjack, 3-Card, and 4-Card table) to a new player that wants to play but can't find an open spot.

Only one casino in AC has this rule, the Borgata, and regardless of how long you've been at the table or how much you've won or lost, if someone comes up to the table and says they want to play but can't find a spot, the floorperson will tell whoever is playing two hands that they need to give one up. If multiple people are playing two hands, then it's usually the last one to sit down that has to give up a hand. Sometimes a couple will come up an try to get two spots together at the same table, forcing two players to each give up a spot.

For the last several years that the Borgata has been open, it's had me stumped as to why they continue with this rule. It always causes anger and resentment between the existing player and the newcomer, especially when the existing player is on a streak. Unfortunately, there are alot of people that take advantage of this rule and observe how well the players are doing before they try to force their way into the game. I've even seen some people leave their "losing" spot at one table, walk away for several minutes and then come back demanding a spot at a different table.

My personal feeling is that this rule is ridiculous. There is no reason why new players "deserve" a spot at a game. If a game you want to play is full - move on! Go play another game or find another casino.

Any other thoughts on this?
SOOPOO
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July 20th, 2011 at 5:40:23 PM permalink
When playing pai gow I often will play 2 spots, but I will ALWAYS give up one of my spots to another player, if they ask. The reason I do so is that I would hope someone playing 2 spots would give one to me if I asked. Some do, some don't. My 'vote' would be to never allow a player more than 1 spot if another player is waiting. Some places require a 'double table minimum' bet on each spot. My local casino does not. But I think the most important part of this discussion is consistency. If the rule is you can monopolize as many seats as you can afford to play, then that is the rule. And unless it is your first time in that casino, you should just accept that as one of the casino's rules for play, and if unacceptable to you do not play there again.
DJTeddyBear
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July 20th, 2011 at 6:12:04 PM permalink
I've seen that at other A.C. casinos as well.

I think it's common courtesy not to hog two seats when the casino is busy, and a rather sad commentary that there needs to be a rule about it.
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vert1276
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July 20th, 2011 at 6:12:50 PM permalink
I'm with SOOPOO, If someone asks I will always give it up.....Only because I wish someone would do the same for me. IMO the casino should make the person playing 2 or more spots play 2X the table min(which most do) and if someone wants one of their multiple spots they should get it. Now if there is room at other table and some guy wants one of your spots????? I guess I would do it reluctantly but point out there is room at other tables.....Basically letting the guy know he is being rude to ask for my spot.

This is why I mostly play craps lol
FleaStiff
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July 20th, 2011 at 6:30:47 PM permalink
I would think it would be common courtesy that you don't hog a betting circle. YOU were there first, not you and your friend, Harvey.
Drop back to one circle if you are asked.
weaselman
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July 20th, 2011 at 6:40:03 PM permalink
When riding on a local train, I like taking two seats that face each other, so that I can sit on one and rest my feet on the other. But sometimes, when the train is full, annoying people start asking me to give up one of the seats, as if they did not notice that I was there first. Sometimes, even a couple will show up, and make both me and my friend give up their second seats. On some trains the conductor is too busy or too lazy to come and ask me to free up the seat for the annoying people, and the rule "one seat per person" is not posted, so I can just tell them to go to hell. If you like to sit while riding, and all seats are taken, go find another train!
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ddloml
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July 20th, 2011 at 7:03:54 PM permalink
Once in Atlantic City I asked for a spot on a full Pai Gow Poker table. The pit boss agreed and asked a player playing two spots to give one to me. I started out slowly for the first bet and put just $1 on the Fortune Bonus. I received a straight flush on the hand, paying $50 on the bonus. The player that gave up the spot gave me the evil eye, and another Asian 'gentleman' at the table was mad at me because I only bet $1!
zippyboy
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July 20th, 2011 at 7:12:01 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I think it's common courtesy not to hog two seats when the casino is busy, and a rather sad commentary that there needs to be a rule about it.


Agree completely. Sounds like the OP wants peer validation on her selfish behavior. I bet she straddles the white line in traffic too and complains when other drivers want her to stick to a lane.

Bottom line, she could probably play as many betting circles as she pleases IF she were tipping well enough.
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sunrise089
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July 20th, 2011 at 7:40:41 PM permalink
I guess I'm the only person who agrees with the OP. I think the "double minimum for two spots" rule is stupid, and I'm surprised otherwise fair and levelheaded members like those who posted above would make analogies like subway seats and (!) traffic lanes. I think the better analogy is airplane seats - if I buy 2 $200 tickets so I can spread out I sure don't see the need to give one up to a person who doesn't want to walk to his seat further back in the plane.

What's the justification exactly for why the OP's table minimum or greater bet is worth less than someone else's? Why is this "selfish?"
zippyboy
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July 20th, 2011 at 8:31:49 PM permalink
Quote: sunrise089

I guess I'm the only person who agrees with the OP. I think the "double minimum for two spots" rule is stupid, and I'm surprised otherwise fair and levelheaded members like those who posted above would make analogies like subway seats and (!) traffic lanes. I think the better analogy is airplane seats - if I buy 2 $200 tickets so I can spread out I sure don't see the need to give one up to a person who doesn't want to walk to his seat further back in the plane.

What's the justification exactly for why the OP's table minimum or greater bet is worth less than someone else's? Why is this "selfish?"


Your logic is flawed. I'm sure in your analogy you meant that if you paid DOUBLE for two airline seats (2x$400), then you can spread out as you wish. This is generally the casino rule. Double the table minimum for two circles. If you feel your ego on the airplane needs its own seat and you're willing pay double to stretch out while others stand, and accept their scorn, then I guess that's the kind of person you are. News stories pop up from time to time about someone so fat they're asked to buy two seats, but that person never volunteers to purchase FOUR seats just so they can stretch out.

I doubt you ever ride a public bus, but if you did, would you tell a pregnant woman "Sorry. I paid the driver 4 fares so I could stretch out. You'll just have to deal with it."? Bus won't let you do it, neither will casinos.
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