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29 votes (39.72%)
23 votes (31.5%)
8 votes (10.95%)
9 votes (12.32%)
2 votes (2.73%)
2 votes (2.73%)

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clarkacal
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February 27th, 2011 at 3:11:28 PM permalink
What do you find most annoying walking the strip in Las Vegas?
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February 27th, 2011 at 3:47:08 PM permalink
I voted porn slappers. At least the bums you can say, "get a job" with some satisfaction. Porn slappers have a job, just a crappy one.
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February 27th, 2011 at 3:56:31 PM permalink
I voted other because the thing that bothers me most is the exhaust smell from all the traffic. I am a pretty laid back person so I just adjust my pace to what ever the crowd is doing. The panhandlers and porn slappers are usually pretty easily ignored if you keep your hands in and avoid eye contact. The exhaust probably bothers me the most since I can remember walking the strip when the traffic levels were low enough it wasn't a problem. Dodging the aggressive hookers was a problem at night then if you were on the wrong side of the strip though.
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February 27th, 2011 at 6:20:34 PM permalink
I'm going to nominate the folks who stop suddenly in the middle of the
sidewalk to do some gawking. They have a knack for doing this where
the sidewalk is the narrowest.
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February 27th, 2011 at 6:48:59 PM permalink
My vote goes towards the people who feel the need to walk 4 wide, and at a pace barely above a crawl. There needs to be a fast lane and a slow lane on the sidewalks. However, most of the people are not rude when I say excuse me as I try to slide by. I would love to say all of them, but alas that would not be accurate. There are always a few who are jerks.

The porn slappers are a distraction, but I think the city has done a great job at making sure they are not a problem. Not being able to push them in my hand is a great law.
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February 27th, 2011 at 7:12:19 PM permalink
Slow moving for me too. Most of this is due to construction though. Most places the sidewalk is wide enough that it just doesn't matter. I hated having to walk on the City Center side while still under construction.


Second would be locations that deliberately push you off the strip and make you walk around something. I think there are only 2 cases(carnival court and city center). Both of which I could have easily had just a sidewalk right along the strip and they didn't want that.
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February 28th, 2011 at 10:40:26 AM permalink
Quote: RaleighCraps

The porn slappers are a distraction, but I think the city has done a great job at making sure they are not a problem. Not being able to push them in my hand is a great law.



Who cleans up all the litter they create? That's probably my biggest issue with them.

I have often wondered if the Strip will eventually become a pedestrian mall like Fremont St. Probably not this decade, but maybe in my lifetime, if Vegas can turn around its dropping popularity.
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February 28th, 2011 at 10:43:13 AM permalink
Quote: dudestupid

Who cleans up all the litter they create? That's probably my biggest issue with them.



Actually the litter is created by the tourists who throw away the cards. Say what you will about them, but I've yet to see a porn slapper litter.

Maybe the area needs more trash cans.
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February 28th, 2011 at 2:47:19 PM permalink
Quote: dudestupid

I have often wondered if the Strip will eventually become a pedestrian mall like Fremont St. Probably not this decade, but maybe in my lifetime, if Vegas can turn around its dropping popularity.



It would be a very different place if the strip was closed to vehicular traffic, however, I don't think it will ever happen. First, because the cabs would go ballistic, and second because the distances between hotels are so great, they require some sort of assistance.

If a moving sidewalk that folks could just jump on and off was installed, it would be cool, but I don't know how you could "drunk proof" it. I've already seen several unpleasant "alcohol+people+moving objects" incidents on the short moving sidewalks into Caesars and Bellagio.
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February 28th, 2011 at 2:51:06 PM permalink
I hate the new junction at (harmon?) at the Strip opposite City Centre. Right pain in the arse for walking the strip, which I tend to do on most trips, one way or another.
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February 28th, 2011 at 2:57:04 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

... I've already seen several unpleasant "alcohol+people+moving objects" incidents on the short moving sidewalks into Caesars and Bellagio.


I guess I need a memory jog. I know the moving sidewalks at the airport, Luxor, the bridge at the Venetian, and maybe some other spots, but I am currently drawing a blank on moving sidewalks at Caesars and Bellagio. Where are they?
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February 28th, 2011 at 3:07:45 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

It would be a very different place if the strip was closed to vehicular traffic, however, I don't think it will ever happen. First, because the cabs would go ballistic, and second because the distances between hotels are so great, they require some sort of assistance.



The cabs could as easily enter the hotels from side streets or streets parallel to the Strip. No problems there. In many hotels they already do anyway.

Quote:

If a moving sidewalk that folks could just jump on and off was installed, it would be cool, but I don't know how you could "drunk proof" it.



You can't drunk-proof it. Would you need to? I mean, it's dangerous to play with a moving conveyor, yes, but how likley is that? On a related note, are there many accidents involving drunk pedestrians on the Strip?

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I've already seen several unpleasant "alcohol+people+moving objects" incidents on the short moving sidewalks into Caesars and Bellagio.



Oh, that. no, can't do much about that save stationing a kind of traffic/safety officer at the end of each moving strip.
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February 28th, 2011 at 3:52:53 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

I guess I need a memory jog. I know the moving sidewalks at the airport, Luxor, the bridge at the Venetian, and maybe some other spots, but I am currently drawing a blank on moving sidewalks at Caesars and Bellagio. Where are they?

Bellagio one is on the south end of the property, and leads from the strip to the front entrance and porte cochere. The Caesars one is directly across from the crosswalk to O'Sheas/Flamingo and there is a little gazebo-thing you have to walk into to get to it. It goes directly to the casino. It's actually very fun, kind of like an amusement ride. Not a lot of people know about it.
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February 28th, 2011 at 4:12:25 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Bellagio one is on the south end of the property, and leads from the strip to the front entrance and porte cochere. The Caesars one is directly across from the crosswalk to O'Sheas/Flamingo and there is a little gazebo-thing you have to walk into to get to it. It goes directly to the casino. It's actually very fun, kind of like an amusement ride. Not a lot of people know about it.


Thanks for the memory jog, teddys. I think I was actually riding on that one at Bellagio last December, on my way back in after visiting the Cosmopolitan. I just forgot it, as when walking I usually approach the Bellagio entrance on the other side of the drive, next to the lake, or go in from the other end by the bridge from Bally's. Most often, I enter Bellagio from the self-park garage. I was initially wondering whether I had forgotten a moving sidewalk out in the mall area or back toward the tram to City Center.

It has been a couple of years since I have crossed the bridge from Flamingo to Caesars (Isn't it at the Bill's end rather than O'Sheas?), so I have some difficulty visualizing that area of the Caesars property. Thanks anyway; I'll have to drop by there the next time I am in town to refresh my memories.
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February 28th, 2011 at 4:19:22 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

I hate the new junction at (harmon?) at the Strip opposite City Centre. Right pain in the arse for walking the strip, which I tend to do on most trips, one way or another.



The Bellagio Entrance/Exit off LV Blvd. (south of the fountains, next to the Cosmopolitan) is a killer too. The cars trying to exit the hotel get totally backed up by both the pedestians crossing against the light, and the cars that get stuck in the intersection due to the heavy strip traffic.... Gridlock.

Then someone decides that laying on their horn is going to make the lights change faster, or make the jay walkers and gridlocked cars instantly disappear. Next thing you know, everyone is blaring away, ruining the enjoyment of the music at the fountain show. The intersection is set up so that the poor choices of a few, really impact the evening for many. Even walking with the lights is risky, as impatient drivers bully their way out onto the Strip.
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February 28th, 2011 at 4:20:23 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

It has been a couple of years since I have crossed the bridge from Flamingo to Caesars (Isn't it at the Bill's end rather than O'Sheas?), so I have some difficulty visualizing that area of the Caesars property. Thanks anyway; I'll have to drop by there the next time I am in town to refresh my memories.



Funny you shoould mention this. When picturing the Strip I almost always need to see a map to orient myself, otherwise I get places wrong. For instance, after my first trip I'd have sworn the Flamingo was on the other side of the Strip. This depsite the fact I got on and off the monorail at the Flamingo, and knowing full well what side of the Strip the monorail is on.
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February 28th, 2011 at 5:49:40 PM permalink
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February 28th, 2011 at 7:11:13 PM permalink
Quote: JIMMYFOCKER

Hookers



You should visit the Main Strip sometime... you don't see Hookers until you get to the really low rent areas of the Boulevard...
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February 28th, 2011 at 7:31:52 PM permalink
My issue with the porn slappers is not that they wave sexually suggestive images at me, but that they create bottlenecks in the foot traffic. They tend to stake out locations where the sidewalk is a bit narrower, and would be ideal locations to pass slow-footed pedestrians. Of course, everybody tries to sidestep them by moving toward the center of the traffic. The result is that a 15-foot wide sidewalk effectively becomes 7 feet wide.
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February 28th, 2011 at 9:27:04 PM permalink
Last August, I posted this recollection about how one of my colleagues dealt with the porn slappers getting in his way. The Wizard endorsed the technique, but I don't know whether he ever tried to replicate it.
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March 1st, 2011 at 12:06:51 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

Last August, I posted this recollection about how one of my colleagues dealt with the porn slappers getting in his way. The Wizard endorsed the technique, but I don't know whether he ever tried to replicate it.



So a huge guy intimidated a bunch of smaller guys? Sweet. Must not have brought his girlfriend.
These guys are not breaking any law. If the big intimidating guys who visit LV did not partake of the services these people advertise they would not be there.
I am amazed at how this is a problem. Try handing out cards in NYC, no one will extend a hand. We learned this in about 1988.
These guys just stand there holding out a card the Time share people will chase you to the door in a casino.

Next topic how to snuff the cab driver who takes you through the tunnel.

Wiz endorsed or not these guys are just trying to put food on the table.
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March 1st, 2011 at 7:38:11 AM permalink
There are a few ways to avoid the porn slappers and street traffic.

All of the "porn slapping" traffic takes place on the east side of the street. Most of the pedestrian traffic is also on the east side of the street.

Solution: walk the west side.

If we are walking from mid-strip to the Wynn/Venetian, we hop over at Flamingo (south side) and then walk up to the crossing at the South Side of the Venetian.
If we are walking from mid-strip south to Mandalay Bay, we hop over at Flamingo (north side) or the south side of the Paris and walk on that side. I haven't seen porn slappers work the West side.
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March 1st, 2011 at 7:42:26 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

All of the "porn slapping" traffic takes place on the east side of the street. Most of the pedestrian traffic is also on the east side of the street.

I never noticed that, but I think you're right.

Of course, this begs the obvious question: Why?

Sure, with more pedestrians, there would be more porn slappers, but NONE on the West side? Seems kinda like an untapped market....
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March 1st, 2011 at 7:51:21 AM permalink
There used to be a horde around the front of the Monte next to the crossing with NYNY.
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March 1st, 2011 at 7:55:36 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

... All of the "porn slapping" traffic takes place on the east side of the street. Most of the pedestrian traffic is also on the east side of the street.

Solution: walk the west side. ...


I don't think it used to be that way. Seems as if I remember a bunch of them in the area that is now Cosmopolitan and City Center. Could it be that all of the west side sidewalks are now on private (casino-owned) property rather than being true public sidewalks? I thought that was how most of the casinos controlled the issue on their front steps: create their own walkways for pedestrians and let the city convert the public property into a turn lane or something.
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December 6th, 2013 at 9:06:36 AM permalink
I have to cross at the corner or within a crosswalk. I can't take the shortest route and dart into the middle of the street. There so much traffic in the summer there,s much you want to add and increase the clutter. If I was going to add something, I would go with a rooftop zip line to get from one side of the street to the other and the entrance would be to the rear of the casino.

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December 6th, 2013 at 9:09:37 AM permalink
Quote: clarkacal

What do you find most annoying walking the strip in Las Vegas?

Porn slappers.
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December 6th, 2013 at 9:19:28 AM permalink
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December 6th, 2013 at 9:53:38 AM permalink
Porn slappers are people too. Just consider all the ancillary activity that's created through their efforts. I'm not talking about the ladies.....are there gay porn cards distributed? Just asking, not that there is anything wrong with that.....

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December 6th, 2013 at 11:04:47 AM permalink
At least the porn slappers have the wits to get of your way when you're walking determinedly and quickly. The same cannot be said for the time share promoters, who literally get in front of you and won't leave you. Then they become upset if you brush against them. Makes me feel like Alec Baldwin on a bad day. And those jerks think that they can actually sell thousands of dollars worth of junk by getting in your face like that? No way!
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December 6th, 2013 at 11:06:24 AM permalink
I'm confused......are there time share promoters working the strip?
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December 6th, 2013 at 11:07:37 AM permalink
I vote all of the above.Also what annoys me is people on the people movers who won't step to the side so you can pass.These are probably the same people who drive slowly in the passing lane.
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December 6th, 2013 at 11:15:37 AM permalink
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December 6th, 2013 at 11:21:29 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Sort of similar, but I can't stand people who block me on escalators by just standing on them. I walk up or down them and I hate being blocked. If these people are that lazy, use the elevators!


Even worse on moving walkways. I'll quote one of my favorite Foursquare tips (from an airport):

"The moving walkways are there to increase your ambulatory efficiency. Walk or die."

What's so hard about "walk left, stand right?" Sure it doesn't work all the time (in the case of really fat people or tons of luggage), but if you are a normal sized person, and you feel like standing on the escalator or the moving walkway, get the fuck over to the right. And if you're with a buddy, you both get to stand over on the right and continue your conversation. Standing two-abreast is grounds for me loudly exclaiming "EXCUSE ME" as I push by you.

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December 6th, 2013 at 12:06:16 PM permalink
Quote: treetopbuddy

Porn slappers are people too..



That's never been proven. Why anybody would walk
on the Strip on purpose is a mystery to me. I don't
even like seeing from inside my car.
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December 6th, 2013 at 12:37:46 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

That's never been proven. Why anybody would walk
on the Strip on purpose is a mystery to me. I don't
even like seeing from inside my car.



It's a nasty game no doubt.
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December 9th, 2013 at 3:04:00 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

That's never been proven. Why anybody would walk
on the Strip on purpose is a mystery to me. I don't
even like seeing from inside my car.



I did it when I first arrived just to see what it was like - hoofed it all the way from NY, NY (my hotel) to the Mirage (where I had show tickets.) It wasn't that big a deal for me; I wanted to do it once to see it.

The only real, shall we say, Strip problem was that I was approached by a young woman who may have been an escort. Those women must be super-persistent, since she blatantly saw me holding hands with my wife. The only other problems were wife-specific - it was 100+ out (August is my time off from school, so this was the best time to go that wasn't Christmas) and she has a surgically repaired ankle and can only walk so much. We had to stop a lot for her. Which led me to the biggest Strip problem - $4 for a bottle of water.

At least you get what you pay for on the Strip most of the time.
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December 9th, 2013 at 3:09:20 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

That's never been proven. Why anybody would walk
on the Strip on purpose is a mystery to me. I don't
even like seeing from inside my car.


It's not so bad. I love walking the strip. Granted I'm usually alone, so I don't have to worry about losing friends/mates in the crowd, and can dart in and out and between the slow-movers with impunity.

If you want to hit a bunch of casinos in a row in a short time (e.g. if you are a card counter with a lousy act :) ), I still think walking is faster than driving. Cabbing is probably the fastest, but gets really expensive. Enjoy the stroll, blow a fag, marvel at the ridiculous costumes of people offering pictures for tips.
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December 9th, 2013 at 3:13:00 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

It's not so bad. I love walking the strip. Granted I'm usually alone, so I don't have to worry about losing friends/mates in the crowd, and can dart in and out and between the slow-movers with impunity.

If you want to hit a bunch of casinos in a row in a short time (e.g. if you are a card counter with a lousy act :) ), I still think walking is faster than driving. Cabbing is probably the fastest, but gets really expensive. Enjoy the stroll, blow a fag, marvel at the ridiculous costumes of people offering pictures for tips.



I assume your talking about smoking a cigarette, and not what I think you mean.... .
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December 9th, 2013 at 3:16:43 PM permalink
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Enjoy the stroll, blow a fag, .



Each to his own. No thanks..
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December 9th, 2013 at 3:55:41 PM permalink
People waste their time walking the strip to be seen, or they're too cheap or too broke to move in a pay-for manner. I'm no fan of walking it and I have no desire to join the mostly foreigners who do that sort of thing. If they've got backpacks they're from W. Europe, guns they're from E. Europe, and if they walk with their eyes glued to a tablet or an ipad, they're from Asia. You can always tell the gringos. They have a beer in hand and an ugly girl in tow.
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December 9th, 2013 at 4:54:58 PM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

People waste their time walking the strip to be seen, or they're too cheap or too broke to move in a pay-for manner. I'm no fan of walking it and I have no desire to join the mostly foreigners who do that sort of thing. If they've got backpacks they're from W. Europe, guns they're from E. Europe, and if they walk with their eyes glued to a tablet or an ipad, they're from Asia. You can always tell the gringos. They have a beer in hand and an ugly girl in tow.


I dont think anybody is walking the strip to be seen. Sometimes walking the strip can be faster then cabbing from casino to casino. Strip traffic is absurd.
I see all kinds walking the strip. I personally love walking the strip, great exercise. I actually walked from MGM to Hilton Grand Vacations by Circus Circus once. Sometimes I'll take a pedemeter with me to Vegas to see how much walking I've exactly done, the number of steps allways amazes me. Only place I've ever done as much walking as vegas is the Bonnaroo music festival.
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December 9th, 2013 at 5:07:20 PM permalink
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I assume your talking about smoking a cigarette, and not what I think you mean.... .


Yes, that is my favorite euphemism for smoking a cigarette...picked it up in Europe...I think it was a bartender somewhere in the UK who said "I'm going to go out into the alley and blow a fag." I knew what he meant, but yeah.

I guess it could be construed as offensive. I find it amusing.
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December 9th, 2013 at 5:56:10 PM permalink
My wife and I routinely walk the strip, from Mandalay Bay to the Wynn. We have even done the walk to Rio. My wife and I take the overpass, while my daughter and I did the underpass behind Caesars route. That route I would not do at night.
We do it primarily for the exercise, but if you are only going a block or so, it is way faster than trying to cab it.
When it is really hot out, we will walk through the casinos, thru the Forum shops, etc. You can get a long way down the strip and only step outside once in a while.

That would be a cool map! Someone needs to map a route on each side of the strip that is done by staying inside as much as possible.
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December 9th, 2013 at 6:13:15 PM permalink
Exercise by walking the strip? With all the exhaust fumes, irritating porn slappers, and the close proximity to breathing in a bevy of germs from who knows where with all the walkers....well, is that just an excuse for not wanting to or being able to pay for a limo or a cab? I say this because a place like vpfree, for instance, is constantly inundated with posters who's chief interest lies in how to save 50c somehow.
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December 9th, 2013 at 6:43:34 PM permalink
Cabs cost a hell of a lot more than $0.50
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December 9th, 2013 at 6:47:20 PM permalink
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December 9th, 2013 at 7:56:44 PM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

Exercise by walking the strip? With all the exhaust fumes, irritating porn slappers, and the close proximity to breathing in a bevy of germs from who knows where with all the walkers....well, is that just an excuse for not wanting to or being able to pay for a limo or a cab? I say this because a place like vpfree, for instance, is constantly inundated with posters who's chief interest lies in how to save 50c somehow.



Well, I'm never going to be mistaken for the Gettys, but I'm not going to avoid paying a cab fare, and a nice tip, when it is called for. The money is not the issue by any means. We have never been bothered by the fumes, the porn slappers are easily avoided, and you need to breathe in some of those germs so your body can build the antibodies to ward off the bigger infections. However, on that note, I do avoid touching the escalator handrails or stair rails. They are pretty gross.

We were there one June for the 109* days, and I will admit, we did not spend much time outside on that trip. Going from Paris to Caesars was HOT. Even staying in the misters did not really cool you down enough. But that is the only time we have cut down on walks. We were there this past July and did the Mandalay Bay to Paris walk and the Paris to Wynn walk on separate days. Best way to experience the strip, and all of the characters on the strip.
Some of the strip walkways are a PITA. The little mall area near Flamingo is the biggest pain. And the people who gawk, weave, stop, and generally block the flow are irritating as hell, but I have bigger things to fret about than that. And the experience of being on the Blvd on New Years Eve put a whole new perspective on what a crowded sidewalk is! Those who have experienced it know what I am laughing about.
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December 9th, 2013 at 8:10:47 PM permalink
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It's not so bad. I love walking the strip. Granted I'm usually alone, so I don't have to worry about losing friends/mates in the crowd, and can dart in and out and between the slow-movers with impunity.

If you want to hit a bunch of casinos in a row in a short time (e.g. if you are a card counter with a lousy act :) ), I still think walking is faster than driving. Cabbing is probably the fastest, but gets really expensive. Enjoy the stroll, blow a fag, marvel at the ridiculous costumes of people offering pictures for tips.



I hate when people are blowing fags right in my face at the blackjack table. What you do in the comfort of your own home is none of my business. blackjack is for BJs and great penetration, not fag blowing. It's just disgusting and smelly and gets all in my clothes usually.
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December 9th, 2013 at 9:02:38 PM permalink
I enjoy walking the strip at night more than during the day.

Not as hot, people are livelier, usually they're better dressed.

And oh my, the quality of the young women I see out on the strip on a weekend: a lot better than what I see in Portland.

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