Quote: GreasyjohnYou can ignore what I have to say if you like. It’s a free country. I have discussed the issues in this thread with several friends who agree with me. And if a person expresses an opinion that is truthfully and thoughtfully given then that opinion matters. At the very least I would hope that you’d agree that I should have the right to express my opinion.
Welcome to my world. You most certainly should have the right to express your opinion unfettered, unmolested and free of harassment. That is understood in most civilized countries.
What do you think the outcome would have been if the girl's parent or parents did that to her? They'd probably be arrested and have their daughter taken away.
Quote: beachbumbabsI think you and I are seeing different things.
We must be, so let me help. Sorry that I can't find a clean YouTube video, all I have is an ad filled news report. But in it, it shows what I'm describing and it does so in slow motion. FF to ~24seconds in.
http://www.msn.com/en-za/video/peopleandplaces/south-carolina-cop-fired-for-violent-arrest-of-student/vp-BBmxs7z
The cop grabs her around the neck, her right hand closes over the cop's hand. Immediately after that, she releases and strikes him in the face. As she goes over, it appears she attempts at least once more if not twice before being wadded up.
I'd hear an argument that it wasn't a strike and instead a flail. But it's going to have to be one hell of an argument. That's a strike if I ever saw one.
Again, not saying that the cop was right.
He does deserve to be looking to a new career IMO. Looks like he'd be a good fit for what casinos unfortunately seem to look for in security officers.
Re: A bad student vs a dead grandpa
Tons of people care a lot when a cop did a wrestling move on a bad student (who will sue the police department, and she will get rich later.)
On the other hand, not much people care when a Kung Fu guy beat a defenseless grandpa to dead (The beating/killing started @ 0:30.)
I don't get upset/outraged anymore because that's just another fact of life. May the Almighty rest the grandpa's soul.
Quote: ArtemisHere is just another fact of life...
Re: A bad student vs a dead grandpa
Tons of people care a lot when a cop did a wrestling move on a bad student (who will sue the police department, and she will get rich later.)
On the other hand, not much people care when a Kung Fu guy beat a defenseless grandpa to dead (The beating/killing started @ 0:30.)
I don't get upset/outraged anymore because that's just another fact of life. May the Almighty rest the grandpa's soul.
How are the two remotely related so that they'd be mentioned in comparison?
Quote: mcallister3200
How are the two remotely related so that they'd be mentioned in comparison?
They're not.
The only comparison I could glean from the two incidents, is an over usage of force. In the incident that everyone seems so interested in, the officer used an excessive amount of force regarding the compliance of an individual who was noncompliant.
The second incident is a demonstration of physical force with the intent to cause harm. Beyond the actual use of physical force, I see no similarities.
The post seems mostly intent to cause shock value to the thread.
Quote: 1BBAs long as megalomaniacs are given a badge and a gun we will have this problem of abuse. It runs rampant not only in law enforcement but in all walks of life. These crimes against defenseless children and innocent adults sicken me.
I invite everyone to take a look at this video. See link below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emmoJvpSGyw
Quote: beachbumbabsUnderstanding that the above is your opinion, do you or anybody else really think that if a black 240lb cop had dumped a white 16yo girl onto her head then dragged/thrown her across the room, and there was video, that it would not create the sensation it has?
Puh-leeze. The cop would not only have been fired, he might not have lived the day out.
In the current climate of endless accusations and biased reporting by the MSM entities e.g., CNN & MSNBC et al --- NO, I don't believe it would've created the same coverage/sensationalism. -- I don't agree with your final and last remark. IMO the black officer probably would've been reassigned or possibly given another chance --- Oh please! with the assination malarkey LOL!
Quote: ArtemisHere is just another fact of life...
Re: A bad student vs a dead grandpa
Tons of people care a lot when a cop did a wrestling move on a bad student (who will sue the police department, and she will get rich later.)
On the other hand, not much people care when a Kung Fu guy beat a defenseless grandpa to dead (The beating/killing started @ 0:30.)
I don't get upset/outraged anymore because that's just another fact of life. May the Almighty rest the grandpa's soul.
Both acts are horrific, and any ordinary human being should be outraged in both instances. However, there is a big difference between the two acts: One act was committed by a street criminal, and the other was committed by a law enforcement officer, whose job is "to protect and to serve." The officer action has implication of public trust, and thus was given national news coverage.
IMO, the recently fired police officer should take this opportunity to contact Vince McMahon to start a new career as a wrestler for the WWE, and he can make million$$$ based on the many comments I see in this thread.