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7craps
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July 21st, 2010 at 9:14:51 AM permalink
So what do the casinos really get from backing-off or completely black listing a player for any reason other than out-right cheating.
This is the 21st century. Stop sweating the money, casinos!
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July 21st, 2010 at 9:33:22 AM permalink
I voted "OK for Casinos." My reasoning is that I've seen openly abusive (but not cheating) people thrown out and/or banned, and I'd like that policy to continue. As to what the casinos get from backing these people off, the answer is simple - my continued patronage.
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JerryLogan
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July 21st, 2010 at 9:44:23 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

I voted "OK for Casinos." My reasoning is that I've seen openly abusive (but not cheating) people thrown out and/or banned, and I'd like that policy to continue. As to what the casinos get from backing these people off, the answer is simple - my continued patronage.



What does "openly abusive" mean?

As far as those who "have heard" about others who were supposedly banned from a casino (not for abusive behaviour because I know a few people who've gone through that, but for gaming prowess) or those who claim they've been banned for whatever reasons, I have to date seen only one gambler show his 86'ed letter from the casino on-line. I've heard of a lot of others, but I would think they'd get written notification from the casino at some point also. What's everyone's opinion, or experience, on this?
rdw4potus
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July 21st, 2010 at 10:05:03 AM permalink
Quote: JerryLogan

What does "openly abusive" mean?

As far as those who "have heard" about others who were supposedly banned from a casino (not for abusive behaviour because I know a few people who've gone through that, but for gaming prowess) or those who claim they've been banned for whatever reasons, I have to date seen only one gambler show his 86'ed letter from the casino on-line. I've heard of a lot of others, but I would think they'd get written notification from the casino at some point also. What's everyone's opinion, or experience, on this?



Most on-point:
About 6 months ago I was playing BJ in the "High-limit" area at a local casino (a whole whopping $25/hand). I hit a 12 against a 3 and doubled a soft 19 against a 6 on consecutive hands. I won both hands, but the dealer made her hand each time as well. The guy to my left stood up, got 2 inches from my ear, and told me exactly what he thought of my mother's sexual abilities. Apparently, this was not the first time he'd done something similar, because the Pit Boss told him it was his "third strike" and he was now "permanently banned from play." Later, the dealer told me that the player had just finished a 2 week ban for his second strike, and this was his 3rd day back in the casino.

Also qualifies:
2 years ago, a fellow player would call the female dealer a bitch each and every time she failed to bust. Each and every time she would say something in return. Her retorts started out as "I really do not like that word. Please do not use that word" and evolved into "You must be confused, I am not your mother" before she finally just shouted "FLOOR! Verbal Abuse at Table 32 seat 3!" That player was backed off and escorted out. I'm not sure how long he was suspended for.

The best part: Each incident happened on a weekday, during the day, and at a dry casino.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
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July 21st, 2010 at 10:19:52 AM permalink
I think the question should have been posed as whether casinos should have the right to bar perceived advantage players from playing. Of course they should have the right to bar cheaters or abusive players.
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teddys
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July 21st, 2010 at 10:42:05 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

The guy to my left stood up, got 2 inches from my ear, and told me exactly what he thought of my mother's sexual abilities.


So you gave him a vicious headbutt, right? :)
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
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