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FinsRule
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July 25th, 2012 at 6:21:48 AM permalink
Why should casino customers have to subsidize dealer salaries?

A fair salary for a dealer is probably $15-$25 an hour based on experience and location. I assume that casinos now are paying around $5, and tips make up the rest. So we're talking about $15 an hour difference to make up. At a table with 7 spots, that's $2 per person per hour.

For those who say that the dealer is providing me a service, I say that is BS. I'm providing the casino with a service - taking my money.

I don't tip cashiers, I don't tip bank tellers. I'd rather not tip waiters and waitresses. I'd rather all businesses just raise their prices and pay their employees a decent salary. Casinos make money hand over fist, and they get their customers to tip dealers. They know we are idiots.

(One exception would be cocktail waitresses bringing me a FREE drink. I have no problems tipping for a free benefit)
DJTeddyBear
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July 25th, 2012 at 6:33:24 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

I'd rather not tip waiters and waitresses. I'd rather all businesses just raise their prices and pay their employees a decent salary.

While I agree with the second part I quoted, I question the first part.

If you'd rather not tip waiters and waitresses, why do you?

When you come up with that answer you may realize why you should tip dealers - at least until the casinos pay a reasonable salary.
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July 25th, 2012 at 6:39:33 AM permalink
I agree pal.

I always tip the cocktail waitress $1 per drink (sometimes $2).

But I NEVER, EVER tip a dealer. NEVER!

I'm sure to catch hell for that statement since it breaks one of Wizards commandments.

If someone wants to tip a dealer.....great. But don't tell me how to spend MY money.
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July 25th, 2012 at 6:54:07 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

Why should casino customers have to subsidize dealer salaries?



Are you aware that once you pay money to a business it becomes their money? And that they can do as they want with it? And that they will pay expenses before doing anything else? And that includes paying the salaries of their staff?

So like it or not, you as a customer pay the salaries of the staff. Why does it bother you when you're allowed to choose how much to pay for those salaries?
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FinsRule
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July 25th, 2012 at 6:57:15 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

While I agree with the second part I quoted, I question the first part.

If you'd rather not tip waiters and waitresses, why do you?

When you come up with that answer you may realize why you should tip dealers - at least until the casinos pay a reasonable salary.



My point is that casinos are making enough money that they don't need me to pay their employees salaries. The casinos should pay them more, not me.

If restaurants don't make enough money to pay their employee's salaries, I'd rather them raise prices so I don't have to tip.

Wouldn't everyone love to go to a casino, or any business that said "We pay our employees a fair salary, so please do not add gratuity. If you are especially pleased with your service, please let a manager know so that employee can be recognized"
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July 25th, 2012 at 6:57:47 AM permalink
I do not tip dealers. If I tipped the way some here suggest, I'd be tipping over $5000 a year and I've been playing blackjack for a lot of years. I have tipped in the past for various reasons but the dealer deserving it was never one of them.
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July 25th, 2012 at 6:59:41 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

If restaurants don't make enough money to pay their employee's salaries, I'd rather them raise prices so I don't have to tip.



So rather than pay, say 15% extra as a tip, you'd be ok with a generalized 15% raise in prices, so you woulnd't have to pay 15% extra?
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FinsRule
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July 25th, 2012 at 7:09:19 AM permalink
I posted "Yep."

It said my post was too short.

So, "Yep"

Prices would go up by what the market would bear. It would make things quicker. I would know exactly what meals would cost (not that I can't add), but then when people split a meal, I wouldn't get stuck subsidizing their lack of tipping.

I see no negatives... And if a rebuttal would be "worse service" my answer would be that the business owners would ensure that their customers are happy the same way they do under the current system.
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July 25th, 2012 at 7:23:13 AM permalink
I tip dealers generously if they're friendly and attentive, and am happy to do it. I'm a dealer myself.
Dealers make minimum wages plus tips, and the tip salaries are not great at all except at exceptional casinosike Caesars Palace.
Tips generally come from players' winnings, and if it weren't for tips, casino operators would have to raise wages - by raising the house edge on games.
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July 25th, 2012 at 7:39:20 AM permalink
It doesn't matter if you think you should tip. You don't tip cashiers (except at cafés, but that really is optional) because it's not traditional. If it's customary to tip, and you don't tip, that's tantamount to stealing, and it's customary to tip dealers.
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