Strangest Casino/Gambling Superstition
May 25th, 2012 at 8:52:43 AM
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Stealing the idea from the other thread. What is your strangest casino/gambling superstition?
As I wrote in the other post, mine is that I won't play the first two pai gow poker hands after a new deck so it will go through a shuffle once. I know it's not rational.
As I wrote in the other post, mine is that I won't play the first two pai gow poker hands after a new deck so it will go through a shuffle once. I know it's not rational.
May 25th, 2012 at 8:53:23 AM
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Quote: FinsRuleStealing the idea from the other thread. What is your strangest casino/gambling superstition?
As I wrote in the other post, mine is that I won't play the first two pai gow poker hands after a new deck so it will go through a shuffle once. I know it's not rational.
Mine is a new dealer coming in and burning a card...I usually sit out the shoe.
May 25th, 2012 at 10:23:57 AM
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On some irrational level I believe that it is bad luck to have your bankroll get too small. Of all the times I claim to have a superstition, most of the time I am just sort of kidding, but on this one I act on it best I can. Of course I don't really believe it, except on some level I really do.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell! She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
May 25th, 2012 at 10:35:17 AM
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I don't know it this counts as a superstition, but I leave a BJ table when the dealer makes 20-21 3 or 4 times in row because I don't believe I can win on that table. Of course I know that every round is an independent event not considering the count, but still...
My favorite bet: Double Down!
May 25th, 2012 at 10:46:59 AM
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I don't have any superstition at vP...because I've seen machines hit back to back jackpots (Royal Flush, next hand Quad Aces; happened to my mom)
On PaiGowPoker, I LIKE playing the first hands of new decks...I've seen more than a few times, Straight Flush's and Quads get made those first hands. (Cards are less mxied up I guess?)
On Craps, when the dice go off the table, it's always a horn bet/C&E for me.
On Craps, when a new stick comes in, and it's NOT a come-out roll; ALL BETS OFF (Because the bet WILL resolve; either 7-out or point-made)
On PaiGowPoker, I LIKE playing the first hands of new decks...I've seen more than a few times, Straight Flush's and Quads get made those first hands. (Cards are less mxied up I guess?)
On Craps, when the dice go off the table, it's always a horn bet/C&E for me.
On Craps, when a new stick comes in, and it's NOT a come-out roll; ALL BETS OFF (Because the bet WILL resolve; either 7-out or point-made)
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
May 25th, 2012 at 10:52:40 AM
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For me on craps, if someone buys in for cash mid-point, and I'm the shooter, I will refuse to collect the dice until the money is off the table. If I'm not the shooter, I will look away until the money is off the table.
Video Poker: I talk to my machines when they start to go on a losing streak.
A lot of people think I do the walk around the chair to change my luck, but to be honest, I sit on my leg and it falls asleep every once in a while. I walk around to wake it up, nothing else.
Video Poker: I talk to my machines when they start to go on a losing streak.
A lot of people think I do the walk around the chair to change my luck, but to be honest, I sit on my leg and it falls asleep every once in a while. I walk around to wake it up, nothing else.
"One out of every four people are [morons]"- Kyle, South Park
May 25th, 2012 at 11:28:26 AM
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Quote: TiltpoulFor me on craps, if someone buys in for cash mid-point, and I'm the shooter, I will refuse to collect the dice until the money is off the table. If I'm not the shooter, I will look away until the money is off the table.
Video Poker: I talk to my machines when they start to go on a losing streak.
A lot of people think I do the walk around the chair to change my luck, but to be honest, I sit on my leg and it falls asleep every once in a while. I walk around to wake it up, nothing else.
What do you say to the machines?
May 25th, 2012 at 12:17:25 PM
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Quote: TiltpoulVideo Poker: I talk to my machines when they start to go on a losing streak.
Hey, I do that too!
But I don't consider it a superstition, because I don't expect or hope the draw will be favorable. It' just a bad habit ;)
Besides, the damned machines don't listen...
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
May 25th, 2012 at 12:18:11 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleWhat do you say to the machines?
Sarah Conner doesn't live here anymore.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
May 25th, 2012 at 12:23:24 PM
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I don't know if this qualifies as a superstition, or just some stupid wierd thing I do....
When I'm shooting, I always give the felt a little rub, kinda like I'm cleaning my fingertips, before I pick up the dice and throw.
But the throw part is just pick-em-up-and-toss-em.
When I'm the new shooter and the stick gives me all 5 dice, I'll pick them all up, drop them from about 5 inches, then stare at them for a second or two, as if I was waiting for two dice to call my name. Once I've made my selection, I'll move those two dice aside, give the stick a chance to take the other three, then do my felt rub and throw thing.
When I'm shooting, I always give the felt a little rub, kinda like I'm cleaning my fingertips, before I pick up the dice and throw.
But the throw part is just pick-em-up-and-toss-em.
When I'm the new shooter and the stick gives me all 5 dice, I'll pick them all up, drop them from about 5 inches, then stare at them for a second or two, as if I was waiting for two dice to call my name. Once I've made my selection, I'll move those two dice aside, give the stick a chance to take the other three, then do my felt rub and throw thing.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
May 25th, 2012 at 12:38:51 PM
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When I get the cut card I flip it over twice each time snapping it to make a noticable noise and occasionally I break the card in that motion and I usually get a remark I've never seen that happen before.
IF YOU PLAY "PLAY TO WIN"
May 25th, 2012 at 12:50:00 PM
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Quote: TiltpoulA lot of people think I do the walk around the chair to change my luck, but to be honest, I sit on my leg and it falls asleep every once in a while. I walk around to wake it up, nothing else.
LOL, I was wonderign why you were sitting on the stool that way at MSS...just a force of habit I suppose...
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
May 25th, 2012 at 12:57:14 PM
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After a win, I swap out my chips. So I will take down my bet and leave the winnings as a new bet. On a press, I add more chips to the win, and move it to the bet taking down the original bet.
I try to do this every time for my bets at blackjack or pai gow poker or on the pass and come lines in craps. I admit it doesn't work at all for place bets in craps or for the odds on come bets, so I kind of just ignore that.
I often put the chips that I bet and won with on the bottom of my stack to avoid betting them again for a while. They have done their job, they could use a little rest.
Also in craps, when something happens that "should" result in a 7 next roll (you know, dice off the table, guy arguing with the stick, getting all the numbers covered, etc.), I rub my nose to offset the bad juju. Works about fives time in six.
I try to do this every time for my bets at blackjack or pai gow poker or on the pass and come lines in craps. I admit it doesn't work at all for place bets in craps or for the odds on come bets, so I kind of just ignore that.
I often put the chips that I bet and won with on the bottom of my stack to avoid betting them again for a while. They have done their job, they could use a little rest.
Also in craps, when something happens that "should" result in a 7 next roll (you know, dice off the table, guy arguing with the stick, getting all the numbers covered, etc.), I rub my nose to offset the bad juju. Works about fives time in six.
May 25th, 2012 at 12:59:15 PM
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On VP, if the machine seems to be going cold, I will press the "bet one" button five times rather than "bet max"
May 25th, 2012 at 1:01:07 PM
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Quote: ChampagneFireball
I often put the chips that I bet and won with on the bottom of my stack to avoid betting them again for a while. They have done their job, they could use a little rest.
I like this one it made me chuckle. When I win and receive anniversary chips or new chips I move them to my last to bet stacks.
IF YOU PLAY "PLAY TO WIN"
May 25th, 2012 at 1:19:55 PM
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Quote: ChampagneFireballAlso in craps, when something happens that "should" result in a 7 next roll (you know, dice off the table, guy arguing with the stick, getting all the numbers covered, etc.), I rub my nose to offset the bad juju. Works about fives time in six.
I'll try that, LOL.
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
May 25th, 2012 at 1:24:18 PM
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Quote: FlynnI don't know it this counts as a superstition, but I leave a BJ table when the dealer makes 20-21 3 or 4 times in row because I don't believe I can win on that table. Of course I know that every round is an independent event not considering the count, but still...
If those 4 dealer hands of 20 or 21 are composed of 4 or 5 cards each, I might be raising my bet and telling everyone else to sit out because the shoe is no good. Just kidding on the last part---maybe.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
May 25th, 2012 at 1:27:57 PM
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Quote: AyecarumbaQuote: FinsRuleWhat do you say to the machines?
Sarah Conner doesn't live here anymore.
Hardest I've laughed at this forum in a while. I award you one internets, sir!
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
May 25th, 2012 at 2:06:31 PM
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You may talk to the machine..but don't forget...
"It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are BROKE."
"It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are BROKE."
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
May 25th, 2012 at 2:27:13 PM
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Quote: ChampagneFireballWorks about fives time in six.
Ha! Love it!
At craps, when the stick pushes me the five or six dice to choose from, I would always look for the pair. Two dice showing the same number. However, if three dice showed the same number, then I would pick the two that didn't match. Other situations I would just grab at random.
On my last trip, I was playing Blackjack at an almost full table. Me, a quiet man, young guy (fresh out of college), and a couple. It was a friendly table, nice banter back and forth. When the couple first sat down, the next shoe, the dealer offered the woman the cut card. She wouldn't do it. Said she always cut badly. It was passed to the young guy who was sitting next to her, and he cut the deck. Shoe turned out wonderful for the players. After that, he was required to cut the deck every time, but only after the dealer first offered the cut card to the woman so she could decline it. It was really very humorous and we all laughed about it. At one point, the young guy needed to leave to meet his friend. We were able to convince him to stay long enough to cut the next shoe, which he obligingly did. He left to meet his friend, but said he would return. The rest of us debated playing slower so as to wait long enough for him to get back. Sure enough, he got back just in time to cut for the next shoe. It really was a comedic situation.
May 25th, 2012 at 2:43:42 PM
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I have 2 weird superstitions:
1) When playing BJ and I get the cut card, I always tap my chips so the cards know the money is mine.
2) I don't walk through revolving doors at casinos. (I will walk through them at non-casinos, however)
1) When playing BJ and I get the cut card, I always tap my chips so the cards know the money is mine.
2) I don't walk through revolving doors at casinos. (I will walk through them at non-casinos, however)
May 25th, 2012 at 2:49:40 PM
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Baccarat players are very supersticious. My thing is to deal cards from a shoe (banking) using my little finger only.
No bounce, no play.
May 25th, 2012 at 2:52:18 PM
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I turn all my craps bets off for one roll if a new stick comes in as long as the shooter has made at least one pass. I know, makes no sense.
May 25th, 2012 at 3:15:44 PM
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I believe that I only have one that truly qualifies as a superstition, but maybe another that is technically a superstition:
Definite: I light a new cigarette everytime I switch slot machines.
Maybe: If I am shooting Craps, (and I always bet the wrong way) I will always fire the dice right out if I make the point a 4 or 10. If the point is a 5 or 9, I don't really do anything one way or another. If the point is a 6 or 8, I take my time until I, "Feel," a 7 about to come out of my hand.
Definite: I light a new cigarette everytime I switch slot machines.
Maybe: If I am shooting Craps, (and I always bet the wrong way) I will always fire the dice right out if I make the point a 4 or 10. If the point is a 5 or 9, I don't really do anything one way or another. If the point is a 6 or 8, I take my time until I, "Feel," a 7 about to come out of my hand.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
May 25th, 2012 at 3:26:34 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleWhat do you say to the machines?
To be honest, I usually say things like "C'mon be cool. We were doing so well earlier (if I had a streak of good hands). Stay up, stay up! All right now, capitalize and apologize (on a full house or flush)."
I think people who sit next to me think I'm nuts.
As to TIMSPEED, the stool was just kind of cool... and I was dead tired.
"One out of every four people are [morons]"- Kyle, South Park
May 25th, 2012 at 3:30:21 PM
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Quote: TiltpoulTo be honest, I usually say things like "C'mon be cool. We were doing so well earlier (if I had a streak of good hands). Stay up, stay up! All right now, capitalize and apologize (on a full house or flush)."
That's close to what I say. usually I'll say things like "Come on! Draw quads!" or "Draw a royal!" When playing DB and holding 3 aces, I'll say "You have to give me this one."
But as noted, they don't listen.
Quote:I think people who sit next to me think I'm nuts.
I kind of whisper it.
Quote:As to TIMSPEED, the stool was just kind of cool... and I was dead tired.
As I recall, you weren't that far from plain dead ;)
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
May 25th, 2012 at 5:03:21 PM
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Quote: NareedThat's close to what I say. usually I'll say things like "Come on! Draw quads!" or "Draw a royal!" When playing DB and holding 3 aces, I'll say "You have to give me this one."
I thought everyone did that. The only thing I say to a VP machine is, if I'm drawing for one card on Deuces Wild, "Deuce, one time!" If I'm playing JoB and drawing for a Straight/Flush/StraightFlush, something like, "Four of clubs, one time!"
The funniest thing that happened was, during one DW session, the guy sitting next to me turns and asks, "How can you demand a, 'Deuce, one time,' when you've gotten a Deuce three out of the last four times you've said that? That's more than one time, already."
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
May 25th, 2012 at 5:23:23 PM
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Quote: Mission146I thought everyone did that. The only thing I say to a VP machine is, if I'm drawing for one card on Deuces Wild, "Deuce, one time!" If I'm playing JoB and drawing for a Straight/Flush/StraightFlush, something like, "Four of clubs, one time!"
I also sometimes admonish the machine when it draws the wrong cards. "That wasn't quads," for example.
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
May 25th, 2012 at 5:24:45 PM
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I only have one real superstition, and it's not particularly strange, as I am under the impression that it is quite common; in craps, if I happen to throw a die off the table, I immediately call, "SAME DICE!"
The "sort of" superstitions I have are, when I get dealt 4/royal in VP, I make a joke about the "47 club" (there are 47 cards in the deck, only one of which I am particularly interested in), and when somebody at a poker table shows pocket fives and says "Presto!", I respond, "Irwin!" (I am under the impression that "Presto!" was something invented in the rec.gambling newsgroup (before it broke up into subgroups like rec.gambling.poker), which also said that "Irwin!" the "countersign" to indicate you recognize the other person as a rec.gambling follower.)
The "sort of" superstitions I have are, when I get dealt 4/royal in VP, I make a joke about the "47 club" (there are 47 cards in the deck, only one of which I am particularly interested in), and when somebody at a poker table shows pocket fives and says "Presto!", I respond, "Irwin!" (I am under the impression that "Presto!" was something invented in the rec.gambling newsgroup (before it broke up into subgroups like rec.gambling.poker), which also said that "Irwin!" the "countersign" to indicate you recognize the other person as a rec.gambling follower.)
May 25th, 2012 at 6:01:16 PM
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I've noticed that I seem to have better luck at the casino if I listen to my "Showbiz Kids -- The Best of Steely Dan" CD set before I go. Yes, I know, just coincidence, but hey, I like Steely Dan, so why not?
May 25th, 2012 at 10:15:11 PM
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Certain dealers that always seem to pay me, and some who never seem to pay me. I've played BJ with a guy on the nightshift named Joe and I've probably won 19/20 times against him. One girl named Suzanne beats me every freakin time to the point that I can't even sit down at her table anymore. I also swear I do better against friendly dealers and poorly against the "brick walls".
May 26th, 2012 at 2:21:16 AM
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On 1st hand of a BJ shoe, I always raise my bet, and I really dont know why.
May 26th, 2012 at 2:46:30 AM
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1. I need to buy in with $xx60 or $x60.
2. I'm exclusively a craps player. My chips NEED to be organized by value, left-right right-left it doesn't matter. Fact of the matter is it need to be $1's, $5's, $25's, $100's. $1's can be held in the hand but I can't live with any other deviation.
2. I'm exclusively a craps player. My chips NEED to be organized by value, left-right right-left it doesn't matter. Fact of the matter is it need to be $1's, $5's, $25's, $100's. $1's can be held in the hand but I can't live with any other deviation.
Its - Possessive; It's - "It is" / "It has"; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They're - "They are"
May 26th, 2012 at 11:10:22 AM
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I always need to know how much I have in my stack. I'm a red chip player mostly so I always count my stacks by $50 each. I probably cut them and count them 10 times throughout a session just to make sure it's still $50 knowing full well that i haven't touched a stacked. Also at the craps table i put a $1 chip after every 10 red chips so i have stacks of $50 seperated out. I will count and recount These stacks as wel. It's annoying even to myself but I always need to know exactly how much I have for some reason.
May 26th, 2012 at 12:49:32 PM
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Quote: BeardgoatI always need to know how much I have in my stack. I'm a red chip player mostly so I always count my stacks by $50 each. I probably cut them and count them 10 times throughout a session just to make sure it's still $50 knowing full well that i haven't touched a stacked. Also at the craps table i put a $1 chip after every 10 red chips so i have stacks of $50 seperated out. I will count and recount These stacks as wel. It's annoying even to myself but I always need to know exactly how much I have for some reason.
I do that too playing BJ, never playing poker though. Don't know why.
The weirdest one and one that drives my wife crazy is 50 dollar bills. I won't even keep them in the house! If someone gives me change and there is a fifty, I make them break it.
Stupid is a choice
May 26th, 2012 at 1:23:13 PM
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Quote: INkyatariI've noticed that I seem to have better luck at the casino if I listen to my "Showbiz Kids -- The Best of Steely Dan" CD set before I go. Yes, I know, just coincidence, but hey, I like Steely Dan, so why not?
I used to be the same way with The Killers - Live at the Royal Albert Hall
then I hit a huge losing streak and that ended that
May 26th, 2012 at 2:17:43 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesI used to be the same way with The Killers - Live at the Royal Albert Hall
then I hit a huge losing streak and that ended that
"Read My Mind," was incredible.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
May 26th, 2012 at 3:44:48 PM
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Quote: Mission146"Read My Mind," was incredible.
the line - The stars are blazing like rebel diamonds always makes me think of Vega$
May 29th, 2012 at 12:07:33 AM
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Man my gambling habits are boring compared to the rest of you all! I can't think of a single superstition or even "weird habit" I have when gambling.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
May 29th, 2012 at 7:08:56 PM
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There is a woman at my home casino that brings a wash cloth and a small thing or warm water and rubs the screen to the machines with the wash cloth as she plays to "heat them up". She swears it works but everyone thinks she's a nut.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:38:23 PM
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Last month at the Fiesta Henderson, I was on a 11 hour session at Pai Gow just kicking ass and taking names... A Korean guy and I were betting table limit and hitting bonuses, just crazy streaks that kept us from getting up for bathrooms or anything. When pit boss came over to change the cards we ran to bathroom. I was just about to wash my hands when the Korean guy YELLED and slapped my hands away from the water. He said I would wash my luck off, NEVER EVER wash hands when winning he said...I let him run out and washed my hands... When I sat down I lost like crazy...Five in a row I got up and drove 8 hours home...
"If you never slow down, you'll never get old." Tom Petty
May 30th, 2012 at 5:10:19 AM
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LOL.
But how did ol' dirty hands do?
But how did ol' dirty hands do?
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
May 30th, 2012 at 6:05:14 AM
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The casino must love her... less of a need to hire someone to go around sanitizing the slot machines. Hot lights of a casino do not affect the chips, nor do fumes from cleaning solutions.Quote: winmonkeyspit3She swears it works but everyone thinks she's a nut.
That Oriental belief of "not washing away good luck" is particularly true during the Chinese New Year related explosion in the number of Orientals who are gambling. Its not unique to a few gamblers but is rather widespread.
May 30th, 2012 at 7:08:38 AM
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"Olde Dirty Hands", won the first 3 hands and pushed the next two before I stormed off...I would hate to see the live germs on the chips, bet its the dirtiest thing in the casino...
"If you never slow down, you'll never get old." Tom Petty
May 30th, 2012 at 7:27:54 AM
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Quote: dagojoe64I would hate to see the live germs on the chips, bet its the dirtiest thing in the casino...
No, that has to be the unflushed toilet in the men's room.
It amazes me the number of morons who "do their business" in the toilet then walk off without flushing it.
Seems as if they are leaving a personal offering to the gambling gods.
Now that is one foul, nasty superstition.
"What, me worry?"
May 30th, 2012 at 9:21:18 AM
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Quote: odiousgambitOn some irrational level I believe that it is bad luck to have your bankroll get too small. Of all the times I claim to have a superstition, most of the time I am just sort of kidding, but on this one I act on it best I can. Of course I don't really believe it, except on some level I really do.
The gambling gods do seem to have a way of saying "screw you" when you're down to your last bit of money (like when you get dealt a king in Casino War only for the dealer to pull an ace, or the ball landing on zero in roulette).
In blackjack, I use the same chip for every bet until it loses (I can increase or decrease my bet just as long as that particular chip is still in that betting circle). My "philosophy" is that each chip has a shelf life. When it loses, that means it's outlived its usefulness. If I win that chip back, it's reborn.
May 30th, 2012 at 10:30:03 AM
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always sit at first base.
this started when i discovered a loose bj dealer in the eighties
and morphed into a superstition.
most counters want third base,
but the heat is cooler at first.
i still see a flash of paint from time to time.
in fact on saturday i was playing 3Card at *** casino,
and the dealer was actually lifting his cards almost a foot off the table.
made $1,700 in 90 minutes.
of course i struck up a friendly convo
so i could determine his schedule!
cha-ching.
who says superstitions are silly?
this started when i discovered a loose bj dealer in the eighties
and morphed into a superstition.
most counters want third base,
but the heat is cooler at first.
i still see a flash of paint from time to time.
in fact on saturday i was playing 3Card at *** casino,
and the dealer was actually lifting his cards almost a foot off the table.
made $1,700 in 90 minutes.
of course i struck up a friendly convo
so i could determine his schedule!
cha-ching.
who says superstitions are silly?
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
May 31st, 2012 at 6:32:53 PM
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just a couple of craps ones..
When shooting, when the stick pushes the dice to me, I always take the dice furthest away from me and the 2nd closest to me....except if they are a pair, then I choose the furthest one away and another non-pair random one.....god knows why.
Change of stick concerns me on a choppy table. It usually result in a one-roll all bets off. If the table is hot, I couldn't care less.
When shooting, when the stick pushes the dice to me, I always take the dice furthest away from me and the 2nd closest to me....except if they are a pair, then I choose the furthest one away and another non-pair random one.....god knows why.
Change of stick concerns me on a choppy table. It usually result in a one-roll all bets off. If the table is hot, I couldn't care less.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:58:32 PM
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Quote: FourFiveFaceIn blackjack, I use the same chip for every bet until it loses (I can increase or decrease my bet just as long as that particular chip is still in that betting circle). My "philosophy" is that each chip has a shelf life. When it loses, that means it's outlived its usefulness. If I win that chip back, it's reborn.
I'm the exact same way. And when i do a double down, i make sure i collect the ones that i added, and the payoff, adding them to my stack while leaving the original chip in the circle. Every time.
May 31st, 2012 at 11:34:21 PM
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In craps I am a sucker for the "Iron Cross" meaning that with the 5,6, and 8 covered I always seem to want to drop an extra bet on the field. I also think for some reason that 6 and 8 alternate, maybe I heard this som many times it stuck. Finally, I believe for some reason that when the dice hit chips of any kid they come up seven. Unfortunately with that last one it is too late to do anything about it.
