Vegas Needs to Make a Movie About Craps Dice Setters!

I had a great idea to increase the craps drops in Vegas. Make a movie about dice setters! Please note that I say "movie" as in fictional account rather then a documentary.

The movie would follow the life of a young man who can't find a job in this recession. He is suicidal and depressed and decides to sell everything he owns, catch a bus to Vegas, and try his luck in one final desperate move. Once he gets there, he quickly gets barred from playing blackjack for card counting, can't beat the pros at poker, and has not luck at slots. About to go to his room and shoot himself to end his misery, he stumbles across a craps table where everyone seems to be having a great time.

At this craps table there is a dice setting pro! We would need to have a famous actor play him. Someone with a lot of star power. Maybe a Brad Pitt or a Tom Hanks. Of course the young man sees the light and after the session (where the pro wins a lot of money) the young man follows him and begs him to teach him the secret of craps. The pro takes pity on the young man and decides to make him his apprentice.

Since Vegas would be producing this movie, they would show off some amazing suites, all of the fine restaurants, and the power and fame that can be granted to a person if they have a lot of money! There would be beautiful women of course. Need some famous young actresses. Maybe she's a cocktail waitress who initially prevents the protagonist from committing suicide.

The end result would be a feel good movie which shows that learning how to dice set can change your life and make you rich and famous! Errr.... Ummm...

Let's try that again...

The end result would be a feel good movie that will increase the number of craps players in Vegas and make the casinos a lot of money! Yes the dice setters would slow down the game a little bit, but the pro could make a speech in movie as he is training the young man about the importance of throwing fast so you don't attract attention. Thousands of new gamblers will switch over to craps as the result of this movie!

If you like this movie idea, stay tuned to my movie idea for Keno Kings! This movie (also produced by Vegas) will star Sean Connery as a high rolling Keno expert. He and his group of high rolling Keno friends travel to Vegas every month and absolutely destroy the Keno scene. They stay in fantastic suites, eat at the best restaurants, and meet a lot of beautiful women.

You forgot the villan ;}

Quote: Juyemura

Make a movie about dice setters! Please note that I say "movie" as in fictional account rather then a documentary.

Sure, sort of like "Avatar."

Except here the enemy is the casino; the Tree of Life is dice setting; and the star is mentally crippled, not physically.

Should work.

If Heavy goes on a diet, he might be offered a starring role !

NOOOOOOOOOO terrible idea! Then every damn craps player is going to be setting dice and taking FOREVER to throw the damn bones!!!! If anything, there should be a movie about Archie Kara's amazing run at the craps table. He almost took down Binions with his high level of play!

I won't say it's a bad idea, but then every casino in the world will begin to back off anyone who takes over 0.000001 seconds to pick up the dice and throw :P

Quote: Juyemura

The end result would be a feel good movie that will increase the number of craps players in Vegas and make the casinos a lot of money! Yes the dice setters would slow down the game a little bit, but the pro could make a speech in movie as he is training the young man about the importance of throwing fast so you don't attract attention. Thousands of new gamblers will switch over to craps as the result of this movie!

Since James Bond movies of the 1960's you can list dozens of gambling movies where gambling is a metaphor for depression, suicide, family problems, mafia, or the darkest areas of society.

There should be at least one movie where it is simply glamorous.

Quote: rainman

You forgot the villan ;}

I don't know who the villain is, but he plays the don'ts; as soon as our hero gets up on a point he looks him in the eye and puts a big bet on any 7 .

I agree with Paco! That would be a fun movie.

Quote: pacomartin

There should be at least one movie where it is simply glamorous.

Yeah, there's enough "real" Las Vegas movies out there: vegas scene

Quote: pacomartin

There should be at least one movie where it is simply glamorous.

what? The Cooler didn't adequately capture the glamour for you?
:)

Lol true that!

Viva Las Vegas had everything, quit looking.
Elvis as a mechanic, get outa here...

At the MGM there was a big pic of Ann Margret
in a white swim suit from the movie, just as
you walked into the restroom. It had clear
plexiglas in front of it and invariably somebody
had taken a magic marker and colored in pubic
hair where it should be. I always laughed because
it was soooo Jr High. But it was still funny, some
things never go out of style I guess.

Then you can have a scene where the dice setter cant roll more than 2-3 times without the seven out and then a person walks up that never played before rolls for 30 min. You know realism. The player can be the hot blonde with the cleavage that keeps getting short sticked.

i would rather see a movie about the world record holder for longest craps roll.
what set was he using, you ask?
oh wait, the record is not held by a dice setter.
it's a grandmother from denville, new jersey,
playing for her second time ever.
154 rolls, 25 passline wins,
4 hours, 18 minutes
borgata casino, atlantic city, nj
May 23, 2009, 8:13pm - 12:31am May24, 2009

Quote: pacomartin

Since James Bond movies of the 1960's you can list dozens of gambling movies where gambling is a metaphor for depression, suicide, family problems, mafia, or the darkest areas of society.

There should be at least one movie where it is simply glamorous.

I don't know. I've been a fan of CSI since it began. I can tell you it does not portray either Vegas or gambling positivley, yet it was one factor in getting me to choose Vegas for a vacation. It may be true that any publicity is good publicity.

"i would rather see a movie about the world record holder for longest craps roll."

Yes, she stumbled into the world record, snatching it from the dead paws of Scoblete's mythical gambling guru, "the captain of craps."

see ... the captain sets world record

Uh huh, sure ... wanna buy a bridge?

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the Captain's alleged record was never officially recognized.
ask yourself why it would not be.
certainly it would have been easy to get the casino to confirm it if it were a world record.
the casino would love to have that feat to brag about.
(the felts at Borgata actually have the world record feat printed on the felts)
like the song says..."makes me wonder"

edit: thanks for the pic DJTB !

I enjoy looking at the shrine / plaques memorializing long craps rolls near the connecting passageway between the Cal and MSS; wow, there were a lot of players who rolled dem bones for more than an hour.

I agree there has not been a glamorous craps movie, other than croupier which didn't really get into the game or into dice control. Possibly Hollywood has finally come out with a film with dice control as a theme. My buddy sent me this. I hope it get's into dice control for real. Here is a link to what I have seen so far.

Quote: Juyemura

The movie would follow the life of a young man who can't find a job in this recession.

It's a bad idea to write topically. You get dated quick, after all, and in some cases latter readers or viewers won't even know what you're talking about. You can set a story during a recession, but not necessarily this one. But then you need to set up the background along with everything else.

O.K., just fleshing out ideas here.....here's the back story......a vampire, yes a vampire, develops life threatening allergies to blood. Desperate, he ends up rolling the bones in Vegas to save his life. His dog will have to get run over by a truck so the audience will feel empathy for him as it's hard to have empathy for a vampire. Work with me people....

Great idea for a movie!

Plot suggestions:

*Let's have the guy winning big with dice setting, unaware that he is utterly unable to inflluence the dice [slo-mo shows the dice bouncing chaotically and hitting the pyramids ] but has just been lucky as hell for an extended period. During this period, living it up bigtime, he meets the Wizard! Just when no way would he listen to slowing it down, of course.

*Michael does a cameo! A must!

*The Wizard tries to explain variance, but the guy gets lost in the [perceived] circular statement that SD is the square root of the variance, and what is variance? Variance is the SD squared. This can happen to you, but in the film it will be a comical accident as Michael is interrupted and someone else finishes with the circular bit.

*He figures the Wizard is wrong and goes through a bunch of advice from various old-timers who have tons of experience. Some of them are, or used to be, dealers to boot. Perversely, they have learned all the wrong lessons but are hard set in their opinions. The guy honestly wants to believe them all, is grateful even. Alas, he is wandering in a wilderness.

*He finally has trouble winning and buys into taking a course about the best betting systems. He builds himself up into a gigantic martingale bet, loses it all.

*The movie ends with reality setting in. An ending like "Matchstick Men" would be good, if you've ever seen that.

Movie name: The Hard Ways... I was thinking Robert Redford is Sullivan, Sully for short. Movie starts: Sully is near a craps table not playing. The kid is walking past the craps table after losing all his money trying to count cards. as hes is walking past a die bounces off the table and lands in front of him. he picks it up with his LEFT hand and tosses it (slow motion) with what seems like perfect form. It lands on the table, rotates perfect in the air hits the back wall ever so lightly and stops dead The kid just starts walking away, head down, knowing all hope is gone. off to get a College degree it is. But have no fear all this has caught Scully's attention. Scully pushes through the crowd and finds the distraught kid and asks him, "hey can you do that again?" The kid asks, "do what?" as Scully introduces himself with a hand shake. the kid noticed Scully's very shaky hand. Fast forward Scully needs the kid, Because he was once a successful DI but now has an unsteady hand that shakes. and the kid has IT because just like Scully hes a lefty with a steady hand, the golden touch but has no money.Scully has money from all his previous DC skills. Scully teaches the kid all the dice tricks and craps AP. HI-JINKS ENSUE,STRIPPERS ABOUND,DOM all around. They start Gearing up for THE BIG GAME at special table only Scully knows about. They grind out and amount a large sum of money. The kid gains a big name for himself and a reputation . Fast forward: At the end they lose everything including borrowed money, college funds, parents money. When all is said and done The kid says "don't worry I'll win it all back, remember Im the best DC" and your the best Teacher I love you. Scully feels bad and says, " it's over kid..YOU CAN'T CONTROL DICE it's not possible "The kid says "but you made a living using DC. " Scully says No I made money from of DC, From classes and books and tricking investors......You're no better then a random roller" The kid says so why did you bet on me? Scully says I didn't really, I Bet everyone triple the amount that you would lose all your money.

Sorry but all of your ideas are missing HUGE EXPLOSIONS

Quote: AxelWolf

Robert Redford is Sullivan, Sully for short. Movie starts: Sully is near a craps table no fear all this has caught Scully's attention. Scully pushes through the crowd

I like your ideas too but I notice 'Sully' becomes 'Scully" ... hmmmm... Scully as in a nickname for Scolete?

I like it!

For a plot twist, the audience finds out that Scully is just a random roller after all; turns out the real (dog) bone arranger is his Irish Setter.

I smell an Academy Award ...

Quote: odiousgambit

I like your ideas too but I notice 'Sully' becomes 'Scully" ... hmmmm... Scully as in a nickname for Scolete?

I like it!

I'm firing my editor