Is Wiz Renaissance Gambler?
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at the Venetian in 2008. Then last year he won the
big BJ tournament. Is he the renaissance gambler
of Vegas? A renaissance man is somebody who's
an expert in several areas. Has anybody else won
both these contests before?
I have to ask, were you later backroomed for any dice
sliding? This is the Venetian, where they backroomed
a high roller for not tipping security in one of their
clubs.
would be too great. And then to win, I imagine your
head wanted to explode.
Quote: EvenBobI can't imagine playing in a tournament, the pressure would be too great.
It was tough. That was only my second craps tournament, and the first didn't go well. When I made it to the final table I had a lot of coaching by tournament experts beforehand. Still, craps tournament strategy is very complicated, and I wasn't sure exactly what the right move was. After the fact a much better tournament player gave a roll by roll analysis of it -- pointing out my many errors.
it because its your forum. You're not by any
means a pro craps player, yet you beat people
who are probably better than you. I wonder
if some players think you had an advantage
because you're the big cheese gambling math
expert. You know how superstitious craps players
are.
Quote: EvenBobYou're not by any means a pro craps player, yet you beat people who are probably better than you.
Now hold on there just a minute.
"Better than you?"
Craps is actually a simple game to play.
I cannot for the life of me see how someone could be "better" at it than another, provided they both understand the rules and play it smart.
Lucky, yes; better, no.
Quote: MrVI cannot for the life of me see how someone could be "better" at it than another,
The Wiz himself said a 'much better player' pointed
out all the mistakes he made afterwards.
Quote: MrVNow hold on there just a minute.
"Better than you?"
Craps is actually a simple game to play.
I cannot for the life of me see how someone could be "better" at it than another, provided they both understand the rules and play it smart.
Lucky, yes; better, no.
Better at tournament strategy, not better at craps. Tournament strategy is another game entirely. The underlying game (craps) may as well be tiddlywinks. Actually, that's a bad example because you probably can be better at tiddlywinks than someone else, while you can't make a better pass bet than someone else. Point is, knowing how much to bet, where, and when during a tournament does indeed have a meaningful impact on your expected finish.
Quote: DJTeddyBearWhat's the house edge on tiddlywinks?
If you're playing me, -100%.
Quote: MathExtremistIf you're playing me, -100%.Quote: DJTeddyBearWhat's the house edge on tiddlywinks?
So it returns 100% to the player?
Quote: WizardIt was tough. That was only my second craps tournament, and the first didn't go well. When I made it to the final table I had a lot of coaching by tournament experts beforehand. Still, craps tournament strategy is very complicated, and I wasn't sure exactly what the right move was. After the fact a much better tournament player gave a roll by roll analysis of it -- pointing out my many errors.
How does basic craps strategy differ when you play tournament style???
Quote: AsswhoopermcdaddyHow does basic craps strategy differ when you play tournament style???
One could write a book in answer to that question.
Quote: WizardOne could write a book in answer to that question.
I would read it. I would imagine that once you're down to the final table you have to bet more aggressively.
Gambling 103?Quote: WizardOne could write a book in answer to that question.
Quote: WizardOne could write a book in answer to that question.
So than what was your basic tournament strategy if you don't mind the question?
Play aggressive in the beginning and than turn it down? Or smooth and constant?
Quote: YoDiceRoll11So than what was your basic tournament strategy if you don't mind the question?
Play aggressive in the beginning and than turn it down? Or smooth and constant?
This is probably the closest you will get for an answer. On my browser I had to scroll down btw.
"I spread my bets in such a way that I would advance on anything but a seven. " wow, you'd never ever get advice like that from the Wizard on regular Craps play.
Quote: EvenBob
I have to ask, were you later backroomed for any dice
sliding? This is the Venetian, where they backroomed
a high roller for not tipping security in one of their
clubs.
That was actually me.
Quote: EvenBobOh yeah? Well, did you learn your lesson after
it was beaten into you that you have to tip
security or pay the consequences? Casinos
always have your best interests in mind, but
you have to play by the rules. Its a tough love
thing... LOL!
No but I think they learned their lesson. http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/jan/31/las-vegan-wins-grudge-suit-against-tao-security/
Quote: OneAngryDwarfIn all fairness, it wasn't Venetian security guards who beat Jim up, but rather the Tao nightclub's security. IINM the Venetian doesn't actually run Tao, they just lease the space out to them.
Venetian security illegally handcuffed and detained me however.
Quote: JimMorrisonVenetian security illegally handcuffed and detained me however.
Venetian security are the ones that backroomed
you, correct?
Quote: EvenBobVenetian security are the ones that backroomed
you, correct?
Correct.
