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EvenBob
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October 12th, 2011 at 9:05:48 PM permalink
Pay those markers! The douchebag who owns 'Girls Gone Wild',
and tried to welsh on a 2mil marker, got a judgement handed
down against him last week. Good luck trying to outrun that..


http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/oct/06/wynn-las-vegas-wins-2-million-judgment-case-girls-/

(formatting code wouldn't work on this URL)
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October 12th, 2011 at 9:06:32 PM permalink
ummmm, link please
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EvenBob
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October 12th, 2011 at 9:09:54 PM permalink
Quote: zippyboy

ummmm, link please



http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/oct/06/wynn-las-vegas-wins-2-million-judgment-case-girls-/
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October 12th, 2011 at 10:35:49 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/oct/06/wynn-las-vegas-wins-2-million-judgment-case-girls-/



Please, when doing links, use formatting codes.

Only takes a minute to learn and it makes it much easier.
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EvenBob
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October 12th, 2011 at 10:38:54 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Please, when doing links, use formatting codes.

Only takes a minute to learn and it makes it much easier.



I tried and it didn't work. I've formatted a hundred links
on this forum, for some reason it rejected this one. Maybe
it was my connection.
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MrV
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October 12th, 2011 at 10:44:05 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I tried and it didn't work. I've formatted a hundred links
on this forum, for some reason it rejected this one. Maybe
it was my connection.



My, a bit touchy today.

Somebody needs to get laid.
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EvenBob
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October 12th, 2011 at 10:53:56 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

My, a bit touchy today.



See if you can get it to work, it just failed again.
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October 12th, 2011 at 10:56:52 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

See if you can get it to work, it just failed again.



OK

voila'
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October 12th, 2011 at 11:05:05 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

OK

voila'



You changed the URL. Do it with the URL I posted.
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MrV
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October 12th, 2011 at 11:10:26 PM permalink
Quote:

You changed the URL. Do it with the URL I posted.



likethis?
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EvenBob
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October 12th, 2011 at 11:18:19 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

likethis?



You moved the orig URL so you could link to it.
I don't have time for crap like that. Knock yourself
out.
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MrV
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October 13th, 2011 at 12:26:11 AM permalink
I used tinyurl.

Took thirty or so seconds.

And heck, you "challenged me" to do it, and I did.
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October 13th, 2011 at 5:09:12 AM permalink
As the 10 Commandments say:
"Thou shalt honor thy gambling debts."
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October 13th, 2011 at 5:24:34 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/oct/06/wynn-las-vegas-wins-2-million-judgment-case-girls-/

Um... This worked just fine.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/oct/06/wynn-las-vegas-wins-2-million-judgment-case-girls-/
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October 13th, 2011 at 5:46:00 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I tried and it didn't work. I've formatted a hundred links
on this forum, for some reason it rejected this one. Maybe
it was my connection.



Let's see if it works for me.
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October 13th, 2011 at 6:03:27 AM permalink
They let the creep go free on the Criminal charge! So the Wynn is in the same position that they we're before. The guy still owes them 2 million bux but the difference is today, a court agrees with the Wynn.
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October 13th, 2011 at 7:11:27 AM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

They let the creep go free on the Criminal charge! So the Wynn is in the same position that they we're before. The guy still owes them 2 million bux but the difference is today, a court agrees with the Wynn.



Wynn's fault, though, they took too long to attempt to collect.
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October 13th, 2011 at 8:35:05 AM permalink
Wynn sure took it in the shorts when the judge tossed the criminal charge; there went his only real leverage against Francis, i.e. the prospect of court ordered criminal restitution payment of the debt as part of a sentence.

Had the sleazebag (Francis, in this instance) been convicted, the judge would have ordered restitution, and Francis almost certainly would pay, to keep out of prison.

Now, Wynn has a civil judgment only.

Not bad, but not nearly as powerful as a restitution order.

Let's see how creative Francis gets to avoid collection; e.g. disposing of assets, putting them in another's name, bankruptcy etc.

Then again, if he's a sitting duck he'll just have to pay it.
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October 13th, 2011 at 5:03:26 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Um... This worked just fine.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/oct/06/wynn-las-vegas-wins-2-million-judgment-case-girls-/



I just tried it and it worked. I tried 3 times last night. Go figure.
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October 13th, 2011 at 5:05:10 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Let's see how creative Francis gets to avoid collection; e.g. disposing of assets, putting them in another's name, bankruptcy etc.



He can get in big trouble for hiding assets while the trial
was going on. Very easy to prove.
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October 13th, 2011 at 5:53:57 PM permalink
Define "very big trouble."

What, are they going to sue him?

He'd get in trouble if he lies during a judgment debtor exam, but until then he can shuffle the deck to his heart's content.
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EvenBob
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October 13th, 2011 at 6:03:56 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Define "very big trouble."



{Anything you do to remove your assets from the reach of your creditors after a lawsuit is filed is likely to be a "fraudulent conveyance." That means the courts can and will seek to obtain repossession from the transferee.}

Notice its after the suit is filed. Its right from the start
that they can still nab you after the verdict is in. In
some places its a criminal offense, especially when it
concerns real estate. They say its best to protect your
assets long before you see any trouble coming.
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October 13th, 2011 at 7:33:04 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Pay those markers! The douchebag who owns 'Girls Gone Wild',
and tried to welsh on a 2mil marker, got a judgement handed
down against him last week. Good luck trying to outrun that..



I thought that idiot was in jail?

If he tried that 30-40 years ago, he'd have some help 'disappearing' into the desert.
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October 13th, 2011 at 8:41:09 PM permalink
Ah, fraudulent conveyance.

That requires that Wynn be able to prove fraudulent intent, and that he actually catch wind of what and where the asset is.

Tough to do if your opponent is crafty and "lawyered up."

Francis will most likely move his assets offshore, unless he wants to settle up.
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October 14th, 2011 at 1:24:16 AM permalink
Isn't he already in a battle with the IRS and his "asset protection" schemes.

By the way, don't ever forget use the terms corporation and company very carefully in the Bahamas and the Cayman Islands and other such havens. Often a Company in the Cayman Islands is impossible for the IRS to pierce but a Corporation there means the books are open for inspection.
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