FrGamble
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July 19th, 2011 at 6:54:07 PM permalink
I feel like I am missing out on some comps because I am so shy and introverted. I feel like I deserve some special treatment because of my action, or at least to be told that I am dreaming, but am not quite sure who to talk to or how to ask them about comps. Could anyone help out by letting me know who, how, what, and when they ask for comps? Any encouragement that it is okay to ask for comps would also be helpful for me. I've done plenty of waiting around for the casino to just give me stuff out of the goodness of their heart but it doesn't seem to be working. Any help for a relatively new gambler would be appreciated - thanks!
NicksGamingStuff
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July 19th, 2011 at 6:57:15 PM permalink
I have found that if you are betting an average of $25 or more you can get something on the spot. Lets say you are playing $25 a hand. Most of the strip properties will give you a comp to the coffee shop. If you are playing at $100 or more you may be able to get your room taken care of. But playing for comps is always a bad idea. That $20 lunch could cost you $200+ in gaming losses. When you sign up for the players club you will almost always get some kind of discount on rooms for just being a member. The more play you put in the better the offers tend to get. Vegas has gotten really stingy with comps lately, so myself as a low roller I just find the casino that serves the best drinks and go from there (Wynn/Encore and Aria are good places to go).
AZDuffman
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July 19th, 2011 at 7:02:20 PM permalink
Quote: FrGamble

I feel like I am missing out on some comps because I am so shy and introverted. I feel like I deserve some special treatment because of my action, or at least to be told that I am dreaming, but am not quite sure who to talk to or how to ask them about comps. Could anyone help out by letting me know who, how, what, and when they ask for comps? Any encouragement that it is okay to ask for comps would also be helpful for me. I've done plenty of waiting around for the casino to just give me stuff out of the goodness of their heart but it doesn't seem to be working. Any help for a relatively new gambler would be appreciated - thanks!



For 99% of people the best thing is get a players club card and be sure to present it. If you play slots, well, all you can do is insert it and play. If you play tables present it when you walk up. They should ask but a good policy is have it in one hand when you buy in with the other. Then the dealer or boxman will take it and get you entered. Unless you are a bit of a high roller don't expect much in the way of "discretionary comps" as the corporate world calculates for every penny.

Pick what looks like a slow-moving table since time and level are what you will be based on. Save your time trying to bet big a few hands then move down. Every pit boss in the world knows this trick. One "trick" you can try is buy in for more then "rathole" some cheques when nobody is looking. Your buyin is the most you can lose so no matter what that will be part of the equation.

All in all, play your normal game at your normal levels and simply be nice. You may ask a simple, "Am I close to earning anything good?" If you are close they may bump you up. If you are cool a $15 player could be a $20 player. But it is all about theoretical loss anda % of that.

If you have more than one casino you go to, DO check your levels after similar play and go to the one that treats you better.
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kp
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July 19th, 2011 at 7:09:16 PM permalink
What game do you play? Where do you like to play?
FrGamble
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July 19th, 2011 at 7:18:59 PM permalink
I like to play Blackjack, Craps, and Video Poker. At BJ I'm usually betting 25 with only a 1-4 spread. Craps I place the 6 and 8 and play 10 pass line with 3-4-5 odds. VP at the $1 level. Is it even crazy to think about comps at this level? Also do my wins (I wish) hurt me in getting comps? Has anyone heard of a floorperson getting upset with people asking for comps or should you ask the dealer first? Thanks.
NicksGamingStuff
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July 19th, 2011 at 8:10:11 PM permalink
Your level should be giving you some free food. VP won't get you rated as high as being a slot player (but smart people don't play slots). Wins or losses dont matter, it is all about the theo, but sometimes a casino will give you a discretionary comp for a big loss. I suggest playing at the M resort, they seem to be more generous with their comps than the strip & downtown, plus the people working there are very friendly; the pit boss actually chatted with me for about 20 minutes when I was playing (and im a red chip player).
teddys
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July 19th, 2011 at 11:21:47 PM permalink
Your action should get you comps just about anywhere in Vegas. On the strip at the higher end places you should get food and occasional free room offers. At the lower end strip and high end off-strip places, you should get a bunch of free rooms and better food, and gifts. At the lower end off-strip places, you should get whatever the heck you want. So yeah, don't be afraid to ask.
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vert1276
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July 20th, 2011 at 4:07:49 AM permalink
Quote: FrGamble

I feel like I am missing out on some comps because I am so shy and introverted. I feel like I deserve some special treatment because of my action, or at least to be told that I am dreaming, but am not quite sure who to talk to or how to ask them about comps. Could anyone help out by letting me know who, how, what, and when they ask for comps? Any encouragement that it is okay to ask for comps would also be helpful for me. I've done plenty of waiting around for the casino to just give me stuff out of the goodness of their heart but it doesn't seem to be working. Any help for a relatively new gambler would be appreciated - thanks!



Well no matter what level you play at you will get comps.....They will build on you players club card of course the more you bet....The higher your theoretical loss will be, the higher you comp value will be. I remember when it was standard to comp 40% of theoretical loss. Now if they comp 40% they are considered "loose with comps" LOL! How comps work are really easy when you hand the pit boss you players card he is gonna watch to see how much you bet, and look in from time to time to see if you bet has gone up or down. When you sit down the "timer" will start and when you get up to leave the "timer" will stop. Depending on what the pit boss "rated" you at times the length of time you were at the table will determine how many "reward points" or "comps" will go onto your players card. Every casino will figure their reward point deferentially some better than others. All you have to do is go to the players club deck at any casino and look or ask and they will tell you how many points are on you card(there are normally different levels) and what you can do with them. Than of course a host or pit boss can give a "discretionary comp" But these are gonna be few and far between unless you are a green and black player only.

When in Vegas everything is charged to my room card...every meal, every time I buy a coffee or something in the deli, a pack of gum in the gift shop. You name it...its getting charged to the room card. When I check out I ask to have my comps from my players card applied to my bill. And depending on how much I gambled, how cool the pit boss was when rating me, and whether he was cool and kept hitting the button that I was at the table even after I left......I get most if not all of my bill comped. My bill is normally around $700 and it will normally get comped. But I have a normal casino with a host. But I am by no means a high roller. But I only bet green and black chips.

Then of course there are the "mailers"...free rooms or discounted rooms ect ect the more you play the longer you play and the larger the bet you play of course will determined how good these "mailers" are!

In my personal experience I have found if I stay at a table for at least 4 hours the casino will be looser with the comps...For some reason the 4 hour mark seems the be the magic number for a lot of casinos...dont know why, or maybe this is just my imagination!
kp
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July 20th, 2011 at 10:04:43 AM permalink
What is comped and how it is comped varies from place to place, or actually from one owner to another (e.g. MGM, Harrahs, Boyd, etc).

A lot of places will accumulate points from slot/VP play on your card which can be redeemed for meals or cash. At Boyd you can just present your card at the register and they will scan it like a credit card and deduct the points. At their restaurants you get 40% off meal prices when playing with points. So a $10 buffet will cost $6 worth of points.

Table play is usually handled by the pit manager. The dealer can't help you other than calling over the manager if you can't get their attention. Towards the end of your session, just ask the manager for "a buffet comp for two" or "dinner for two at xxx restaurant".

You should get offers in the mail for free or discounted rooms just by using the card without ever having to ask for anything.

I'm most familiar with Main Street Station where I stay and play. At your play level there you should never have to pay for a room or meal.
ThatDonGuy
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July 20th, 2011 at 11:06:53 AM permalink
I have had different experiences, and it might be more of a case of downtown vs. strip.

I tend to stick to craps, with 10 pass and 20 odds.

An hour of this at the Golden Nugget got me a Sunday buffet comp.
An hour of this at the Mirage got me a cold shoulder.

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