Breaking Bad
August 26th, 2013 at 9:40:52 PM
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Quote: paigowdanNo way, he's ( ie Walt) is toast. The Hankster is totally on to him.
Quote: JohnnyQDid you see the first few minutes of the new episodes ? The one with the flashback at the beginning ? That tells me that Walt is going to _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ .
The hankster is totally fired up with that lying, incriminating bullshit confession, trust me. Certainly at this point Hank has no love lost for his drug-manufacturing, drug-dealing brother in law.
Hank finds a way to go in for the kill, the take-down. Got to.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
August 26th, 2013 at 9:45:15 PM
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That wasn't a catfight, she hauled off and slugged her.
Would never happen. 'Guys like me', what's that supposed
to mean.
Would never happen. 'Guys like me', what's that supposed
to mean.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 26th, 2013 at 10:31:08 PM
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Okay, Bob:
1. Women can get "flared-up wide-eyed" angry, - even outraged - on a moments notice, and just loose it, as we all can, and at other women too, especially family who know how to push the buttons. Every man has seen this from a lady and has covered his nads, so no surprise here when a woman B-slaps another lady. It happens in anger, and this was one angry sister. A slap in anger is perfectly plausible from one woman to another, just as a sucker punch between angry men may happen - as we have seen some punches and slaps thrown in this series. Very Decent screenwriting there.
2. "Guys like you Bob," ...well, what can I say: you kick it old-school. You say you've seen it all. :)
3. I support Hank. He's the man, "my pit boss," and the most decent of the lot of sell-out corrupt human characters in this drama. He took medical money from family, assured it was clean, and little or nothing he did was as dirty as the other characters. He is the good guy here.
1. Women can get "flared-up wide-eyed" angry, - even outraged - on a moments notice, and just loose it, as we all can, and at other women too, especially family who know how to push the buttons. Every man has seen this from a lady and has covered his nads, so no surprise here when a woman B-slaps another lady. It happens in anger, and this was one angry sister. A slap in anger is perfectly plausible from one woman to another, just as a sucker punch between angry men may happen - as we have seen some punches and slaps thrown in this series. Very Decent screenwriting there.
2. "Guys like you Bob," ...well, what can I say: you kick it old-school. You say you've seen it all. :)
3. I support Hank. He's the man, "my pit boss," and the most decent of the lot of sell-out corrupt human characters in this drama. He took medical money from family, assured it was clean, and little or nothing he did was as dirty as the other characters. He is the good guy here.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
August 26th, 2013 at 10:55:49 PM
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Not buying it, looked phony and wouldn't have happened. Plus,
Hank had just socked Walt. Then Marie slugs Sky? C'mon,
silliness personified.
Hank had just socked Walt. Then Marie slugs Sky? C'mon,
silliness personified.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 26th, 2013 at 11:44:27 PM
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Quote: EvenBobNot buying it, looked phony and wouldn't have happened. Plus,
Hank had just socked Walt. Then Marie slugs Sky? C'mon,
silliness personified.
Bob, really, - where's your screenplay hitting the top of the charts?
Easy to criticize.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
August 27th, 2013 at 12:11:17 AM
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Quote: PaigowdanBob, really, - where's your screenplay hitting the top of the charts?
Easy to criticize.
No kidding, they actually pay people to watch shows and
movies for free and then write an opinion. They're called
critics. Some of them are quite famous.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 27th, 2013 at 4:26:20 PM
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Quote: EvenBobNo kidding, they actually pay people to watch shows and movies for free and then write an opinion.
In fact, I have even done this in VEGAS. I think I got $ 15 bucks for watching a horrible political-drama starring Sigourney Weaver. I think it was called "Political Animals" or something. It wasn't very good. I typed that into my feedback computer. They have this sort of thing from time to time between Paris and Bally's and also in the Miracle Mile Shops at Planet Hollywood. I figured it was cheaper (usually) than gambling. A nice break.....
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
August 27th, 2013 at 4:28:32 PM
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Quote: EvenBobNot true. Any lawyer....
Speaking of Lawyers, one of my favorite characters is SAUL the sleazy lawyer. Breaking Bad is one of the very few shows I look forward to watching each week.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
September 1st, 2013 at 7:06:37 PM
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Wow, I have no complaints about tonight's episode.
Maybe the 5 wasted minutes of Marie at the shrinks.
I needed a nap anyway.
Maybe the 5 wasted minutes of Marie at the shrinks.
I needed a nap anyway.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 8th, 2013 at 7:27:26 PM
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Kinda silly tonight, like bad Kabuki theatre. You'll see.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 8th, 2013 at 10:24:48 PM
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It was fine...Jesse lead Walter right into the desert showdown with Hank and Gomez, with Walter's new crew (Jack/Todd) showing up. All plans that Hank hatch worked. Got to Walter, already has Jesse.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
September 8th, 2013 at 11:28:25 PM
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It was all the slapping cuffs on Walt melodrama and reading
him his rights. We all ready know he gets released or gets
away. Its all getting a little silly. And why hasn't Skyler
cracked yet, she went from goody two shoes to Ma Barker
awfully fast. I wish sombody would slap Pinkman around
a little, I really can't stand his whiney chracter.
him his rights. We all ready know he gets released or gets
away. Its all getting a little silly. And why hasn't Skyler
cracked yet, she went from goody two shoes to Ma Barker
awfully fast. I wish sombody would slap Pinkman around
a little, I really can't stand his whiney chracter.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 8th, 2013 at 11:32:08 PM
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Quote: EvenBobIt was all the slapping cuffs on Walt melodrama and reading
him his rights. We all ready know he gets released or gets
away.
Yeah, but he's in the Surveillance books at this point, so to speak. It's the mid-point of the end for him.
Quote: EvenBobIts all getting a little silly. And why hasn't Skyler
cracked yet, she went from goody two shoes to Ma Barker
awfully fast.
She's cracked up before when goody two-shoes. She'll crack up on this soon.
Quote: EvenBobI wish sombody would slap Pinkman around
a little, I really can't stand his whiney chracter.
Agree, he's got some karma coming to him. At least for Popping Gale.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
September 8th, 2013 at 11:35:43 PM
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I mean Pinkman really is a waste of space. You don't rat
out your partner no matter how you feel about him.
out your partner no matter how you feel about him.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 15th, 2013 at 8:59:19 PM
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Just like I said from the start, its coming down to Pinkman
and Walt. Th Pinkman character has a huge, and I mean
huge, fan base of women out there who just looooove
Jesse. Apparently airhead drug addicts are all the rage
now. The writers have had Walt do everything except
stomp a puppy to death, its has to be Pinkman wins
in the end. Its gotten so silly that at this point I don't
even care anymore.
and Walt. Th Pinkman character has a huge, and I mean
huge, fan base of women out there who just looooove
Jesse. Apparently airhead drug addicts are all the rage
now. The writers have had Walt do everything except
stomp a puppy to death, its has to be Pinkman wins
in the end. Its gotten so silly that at this point I don't
even care anymore.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 15th, 2013 at 11:09:07 PM
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Quote: EvenBobDownloaded from where?
I was going to ask the same ... I think is those type of shows you can watch over and over
I try to download it to my computer but I fail did you ever try to downloaded From piratebay?
"18 hit me, 19 hit me, 20 hit me, 21 hit me" - homer simpson
September 16th, 2013 at 6:04:06 AM
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I'm almost caught up, and I can barely watch this slop anymore.
Walt's a badass, if unbelievable. No way you go from nerdy genius to hardcore badass that fast, if at all, but whatever. I can suspend my disbelief and roll with it, he's fun to watch.
Skyler's just an empty headed cow. Nothing more needs be said.
Walt Jr... I don't even know. He makes me cringe. I can't even watch when he's on.
Hank is a weasley P.O.S. that'd be laughed off the force of any of the guys I know. He's a caricature, simple as that. He reminds me of that guy that'd be all up in your shit like he's your friend, but in reality, you can't effing stand him.
Marie... why is she even on the show? She serves no purpose, her character is pointless, and her acting is terrible. She's a clepto? Who GAF?
Pinkman is the most ridiculous of all. He's a whiny P.O.S. who's role is so removed from real life I can barely stand it. His "Yo, bitch" attitude makes me want to headbutt someone or something, anything, really. In reality, he'd be the guy that losers would hang around for product, the hipper cats would shun, and the hardcore would beat the shit out of.
In short, the show has a fantastic premise that has been destroyed in every way possible by bad writing and terrible acting. I can safely say I'm only tuning in anymore just to see how bad it can possibly get. Game of Thrones it is not.
Walt's a badass, if unbelievable. No way you go from nerdy genius to hardcore badass that fast, if at all, but whatever. I can suspend my disbelief and roll with it, he's fun to watch.
Skyler's just an empty headed cow. Nothing more needs be said.
Walt Jr... I don't even know. He makes me cringe. I can't even watch when he's on.
Hank is a weasley P.O.S. that'd be laughed off the force of any of the guys I know. He's a caricature, simple as that. He reminds me of that guy that'd be all up in your shit like he's your friend, but in reality, you can't effing stand him.
Marie... why is she even on the show? She serves no purpose, her character is pointless, and her acting is terrible. She's a clepto? Who GAF?
Pinkman is the most ridiculous of all. He's a whiny P.O.S. who's role is so removed from real life I can barely stand it. His "Yo, bitch" attitude makes me want to headbutt someone or something, anything, really. In reality, he'd be the guy that losers would hang around for product, the hipper cats would shun, and the hardcore would beat the shit out of.
In short, the show has a fantastic premise that has been destroyed in every way possible by bad writing and terrible acting. I can safely say I'm only tuning in anymore just to see how bad it can possibly get. Game of Thrones it is not.
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September 16th, 2013 at 7:07:02 AM
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C'mon Face, why must you hold back? Tell us what you REALLY think.
Funny post.
Funny post.
Talent hits a target no one else can hit; genius hits a target no one else can see.
September 16th, 2013 at 7:12:27 AM
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OMG, Face, I agree in spades with every point you've made here. Skyler makes me want to strangle her, her sister is a waste of space on the show, Hank is a joke in every way with his locker room mouth and open bigotry, it's great they found a disabled kid to play Walt jr, too bad they could't find one that could act. My views on Pinkman I've stated here many times. Gus Fring and the lawyer and Mike and Walt were the only reason I watched the show. I suffered thru the rest of the cast. This was a great show thru seasn 4. Now they've turned Walt into a caricature of Batman's joker. He's evil personified. It's a joke. The show is now a joke. Fricking arrogant writers. At least they let the Soprano's go off with some dignity. BB jumped the shark about 10 episodes ago.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 16th, 2013 at 7:50:38 AM
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Regarding all the hating that is going on, I'd like to say that Breaking Bad is an outstanding show. I'd give most of the credit to the writers and second to Bryan Cranston. BB will be the show the teens decade (or whatever we call it) is remembered for many years from now. If forced to compare, I'd put BB above the Sopranos, or any other show in recent history.
The only thing that can go wrong is if they pull a Sopranos anti-ending, or a Lost confusing ending (or maybe I just didn't understand it).
If I may offer a prediction, it is that the end will come down to a duel between Walt and Jessie. Who wins -- I don't know.
The only thing that can go wrong is if they pull a Sopranos anti-ending, or a Lost confusing ending (or maybe I just didn't understand it).
If I may offer a prediction, it is that the end will come down to a duel between Walt and Jessie. Who wins -- I don't know.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 16th, 2013 at 12:53:05 PM
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Quote: Wizard
If I may offer a prediction, it is that the end will come down to a duel between Walt and Jessie. Who wins -- I don't know.
I've been saying they were headed that way since
last year. The writers have painted Jesse as the
anti-hero now, and Walt as the devil himself. Walt
is coming back because Jesse is the new Heisenberg
and Walt can't live with that. How it turns out is
anybody's guess. Ideally Jesse should win because
he has a dozen valid reasons to kill Walt. The writers
have set it up that way. So Walt might win or they
both might die.
I agree that at the end of season 4 it was equal to the
Soprano's. But since then its just gotten horrible. Its
taken on a comic book quality that's painful to watch.
What evil will Walt do this week, just how bad can we
make him.
They had too many characters that added nothing to
advancing the story in season one, and then they didn't
know what to do with them. Shoplifting Marie? What
did she add except to take up space. Walt Jr? Why
not instead make Walt have a son that got involved
with the Blue, that would have added to the story. Walt
Jr added nothing. The baby? Why was there a baby,
they made Skyler pregnant and had idea where to go with
it.
But the rest was amazing, for the most part. That's why
I watched, that's why we all watched.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 16th, 2013 at 1:57:30 PM
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The difference between BB and the Soprano's is, BB is a
morality play and the Soprano's wasn't. Everything bad
Walt has done has come back to haunt him, that's the
writers intent. Bad things happen to bad people, so don't
be bad.
The Soprano's wasn't that way at all. Tony did all kinds
of evil things that never came back to haunt him. That
was the point, sociopaths exist and the 'what goes around
comes around' theory is just that. Theory. That's why the
way the Soprano's ended pissed off so many people. Tony
never got what was 'coming to him'. It just wasn't fair.
morality play and the Soprano's wasn't. Everything bad
Walt has done has come back to haunt him, that's the
writers intent. Bad things happen to bad people, so don't
be bad.
The Soprano's wasn't that way at all. Tony did all kinds
of evil things that never came back to haunt him. That
was the point, sociopaths exist and the 'what goes around
comes around' theory is just that. Theory. That's why the
way the Soprano's ended pissed off so many people. Tony
never got what was 'coming to him'. It just wasn't fair.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 16th, 2013 at 3:32:10 PM
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Quote: EvenBobWalt Jr? Why
not instead make Walt have a son that got involved
with the Blue, that would have added to the story. Walt
Jr added nothing..
Involving the son in the cook could have taken the story in many different directions..... deeper layer to story.
Each day is better than the next
September 16th, 2013 at 3:34:36 PM
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Maybe Bob meant that Walt Jr. could have gotten into getting high from his school buddy peers....The son is hooked on dad's drugs, kind of thing. That would have been a poignant twist.
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September 16th, 2013 at 3:52:05 PM
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Believe it or not I really like Breaking Bad and am on the edge of my seat to see how this all plays out. I keep hoping for some type of redemption for Walt but by the size of the gun he has in his trunk and the poison, I've got a bad feeling he is heading straight for hell in a handbasket.
However, Walt is my favorite character on the show and I cant quite figure out why. He is a bad guy, no doubt, but there has always been this little part of him fighting for good. That little good in him is slowly losing out and is maybe now completely defeated, he may have completely been broken and is now bad, but I still have hope for him.
However, Walt is my favorite character on the show and I cant quite figure out why. He is a bad guy, no doubt, but there has always been this little part of him fighting for good. That little good in him is slowly losing out and is maybe now completely defeated, he may have completely been broken and is now bad, but I still have hope for him.
September 16th, 2013 at 4:13:17 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanMaybe Bob meant that Walt Jr. could have gotten into getting high from his school buddy peers....The son is hooked on dad's drugs, kind of thing. That would have been a poignant twist.
Exactly. But the writers had him do nothing. Its almost
like they were afraid to because the actor himself has
cerebral palsy, and they didn't dare to paint him any
other way except as a normal kid. Having him hooked
on the blue would have driven Walt insane with guilt
and really added to the drama.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 16th, 2013 at 4:23:55 PM
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Quote: FrGamblehe may have completely been broken and is now bad, but I still have hope for him.
Him leaving the baby in the fire truck was
Walt's attempt to apologize to Skyler and
show her he's not the animal he sounded
like on the phone.
How many people has Walt actually killed.
Quite a few when I think about it. The two
guys in the motor home (one was later in
the basement), the two he ran over with
his car, the three he blew up in the nursing
home, the two thugs who worked for Fring,
and Mike. Did I miss anybody? Of course
he was inadvertently responsible for about
a dozen more he didn't actually do himself.
Jesse has only killed the guy he shot in the
face and a couple of drug people in Mexico,
which was really self defense. He's an angel
compared to Walt.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 16th, 2013 at 11:41:26 PM
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Quote: EvenBobHim leaving the baby in the fire truck was
Walt's attempt to apologize to Skyler and
show her he's not the animal he sounded
like on the phone..
That entire phone conversation was for the benefit of the police. Skyler knew it. He went on that rant to paint her as a victim instead of an accomplice. It was Walt still trying to take care of his family.
September 17th, 2013 at 12:11:01 PM
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Quote: jopkeThat entire phone conversation was for the benefit of the police. Skyler knew it. He went on that rant to paint her as a victim instead of an accomplice. It was Walt still trying to take care of his family.
Great point! That thought didn't cross my mind, awesome catch!
September 17th, 2013 at 12:18:58 PM
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Yes, rewatch that scene again and you can pinpoint exactly where Skyler realizes Walt is giving her a "get out of jail free" card. Just amazing acting in that scene from both her and especially Walt.
This season has been amazing, with Sunday's episode being one of, if not THE best ever.
This season has been amazing, with Sunday's episode being one of, if not THE best ever.
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
September 17th, 2013 at 5:15:42 PM
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Quote: ams288Yes, rewatch that scene again and you can pinpoint exactly where Skyler realizes Walt is giving her a "get out of jail free" card. Just amazing acting in that scene from both her and especially Walt.
This season has been amazing, with Sunday's episode being one of, if not THE best ever.
I didn't pick up on that. And I'm not sure that is the way it is going to play out. Didn't he basically say in the phone call that she knew about it ? I may have to queue up the DVR again.
My Prediction:
Walt has to wipe out the White Supremacy gang with the Poison Cigarettes.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
September 17th, 2013 at 5:41:07 PM
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Quote: jopkeThat entire phone conversation was for the benefit of the police..
I don't agree. Walt was way to keyed up when he
was talking for it to be fake and he was way too
pissed. It would be too clever by half for the writers
to do this, the audience would never pick up on it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 18th, 2013 at 6:30:25 AM
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Quote: JohnnyQI didn't pick up on that. And I'm not sure that is the way it is going to play out. Didn't he basically say in the phone call that she knew about it ? I may have to queue up the DVR again.
"YOU KNEW NOTHING" is his exact quote. lol
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
September 18th, 2013 at 9:03:57 AM
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final scene....
INT. HOSPITAL
Walt laying in bed taking last breath. Heart monitor flat lines.
END
INT. HOSPITAL
Walt laying in bed taking last breath. Heart monitor flat lines.
END
Each day is better than the next
September 18th, 2013 at 10:02:01 AM
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Quote: WizardRegarding all the hating that is going on, I'd like to say that Breaking Bad is an outstanding show. I'd give most of the credit to the writers and second to Bryan Cranston. BB will be the show the teens decade (or whatever we call it) is remembered for many years from now. If forced to compare, I'd put BB above the Sopranos, or any other show in recent history.
I completely agree. There are people in life like Bob who, for whatever reason, just have to be negative a good majority of the time. He criticizes the writers for not making Walt Jr a meth junkie. If they had done that he would criticize them for using a cliche, hack move that he saw coming a mile away. This is one of the most original shows I have seen in a long time and it really is well done. I look forward to the spin-off starring Saul Goodman.
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September 18th, 2013 at 12:14:53 PM
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Quote: bigfoot66He criticizes the writers for not making Walt Jr a meth junkie. .
Absolutely. Most of the scenes with Walt Jr made
watching paint dry look like an Olympic event. Like
Face said:
"Walt Jr... I don't even know. He makes me cringe. I can't even watch when he's on."
I couldn't watch either, it was always boring and
pointless. The character being there made no sense.
Skyler eventually became a central character, Walt Jr
never did. The writers never developed him into anything.
You bet he would have beenmore interesting if he had
discovered Walt's drug. The only memorable thing he
did since the show started was protect his mom from
Walt.
This is fiction, lets try and not too emotionally
involved in it. The writers are supposed to tell a story,
not give us characters who stand in one place for five
seasons.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 18th, 2013 at 1:09:04 PM
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My favorite characters on BB are:
Walt: Goes without saying.
Mike: He was good in every single scene, Jonathon
Banks is always good in whatever he does. He
underplayed the old experienced cop turned bad guy
perfectly. No nonsense, all business.
Saul Goodman: Bod Odenkirk as the quintessential sleazy
lawyer, he played it to the hilt.
Gus Fring: Giancarlo Esposito was super as the evil genius
drug lord, haunted by his past. He was a treat to watch.
Tuco Salamanca: Raymond Cruz played the crazed drug
kingpin like he was looking for a best actor award. It was
electric every time he was on the screen, you never knew
what he was going to do. If evil has a name, it was Tuco in BB.
Hector Salamanca: Talk about brilliant acting. I've been aware
of Mark Margolis for over 20 years and he was unforgettable
in this part. Almost no speaking lines, he did all his acting
with just his eyes and expressions. You really believed he was
that old man trapped in that chair.
Gale Boetticher: David Costabile has been around since the 90's
He was excellent as the innocent and sweet nice guy, who got
in over his head. You really felt bad when he was killed.
The Salamanca Twins: The guys with the skulls on their boots.
These guys never spoke because they weren't actors, they
just looked the part. They were simple and direct in their mission,
almost like Batman villains. Gotta love em.
Tyrus: I loved this guy! Ray Campbell was great as one of Gus's
henchmen. He always had that expression of disapproval and hatred
on his face, his whole demeanor screamed it. I loved the scene
where Tyrus said the phone was for Jesse, but refused even to hold
it out to him. He made Jesse come and get it. That's the kind of
subtlety that makes a great show, I guarantee they talked about him
doing that for more than a few minutes before they did the scene.
Walt: Goes without saying.
Mike: He was good in every single scene, Jonathon
Banks is always good in whatever he does. He
underplayed the old experienced cop turned bad guy
perfectly. No nonsense, all business.
Saul Goodman: Bod Odenkirk as the quintessential sleazy
lawyer, he played it to the hilt.
Gus Fring: Giancarlo Esposito was super as the evil genius
drug lord, haunted by his past. He was a treat to watch.
Tuco Salamanca: Raymond Cruz played the crazed drug
kingpin like he was looking for a best actor award. It was
electric every time he was on the screen, you never knew
what he was going to do. If evil has a name, it was Tuco in BB.
Hector Salamanca: Talk about brilliant acting. I've been aware
of Mark Margolis for over 20 years and he was unforgettable
in this part. Almost no speaking lines, he did all his acting
with just his eyes and expressions. You really believed he was
that old man trapped in that chair.
Gale Boetticher: David Costabile has been around since the 90's
He was excellent as the innocent and sweet nice guy, who got
in over his head. You really felt bad when he was killed.
The Salamanca Twins: The guys with the skulls on their boots.
These guys never spoke because they weren't actors, they
just looked the part. They were simple and direct in their mission,
almost like Batman villains. Gotta love em.
Tyrus: I loved this guy! Ray Campbell was great as one of Gus's
henchmen. He always had that expression of disapproval and hatred
on his face, his whole demeanor screamed it. I loved the scene
where Tyrus said the phone was for Jesse, but refused even to hold
it out to him. He made Jesse come and get it. That's the kind of
subtlety that makes a great show, I guarantee they talked about him
doing that for more than a few minutes before they did the scene.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 18th, 2013 at 1:10:07 PM
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Breaking Bad has never been a show about the evolution of Walt Jr. How much does a teenager really change over the course of two years?
Complaining about his character is like complaining that baby Holly hasn't been given enough to do.
Walt, Skyler, Hank, Jesse, etc. have evolved tremendously over five seasons. Some of the best written/acted characters on TV.
Anyone who can't appreciate that is just a troll.
Complaining about his character is like complaining that baby Holly hasn't been given enough to do.
Walt, Skyler, Hank, Jesse, etc. have evolved tremendously over five seasons. Some of the best written/acted characters on TV.
Anyone who can't appreciate that is just a troll.
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
September 18th, 2013 at 1:52:47 PM
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Quote: ams288Breaking Bad has never been a show about the evolution of Walt Jr.
Then why is he there if he serves no function. That's
how these things work. Remember Happy Days?
Do you recall Richie had an older brother in the first
season? Then he disappeared, the writers could figure
out no use for him. You see that a lot on TV. Heck,
Buffy all of a sudden got a younger sister in the middle
of that series and she came out of nowhere! Try and
explain that to the viewers. But she was needed, she
added depth to the show that wasn't there before, it
was a brilliant move on Josh Whedon's part.
You talk like Walt Jr is a real person. He's not, he's
a character in a teleplay, nothing more. My opinion
is the writers could have made him interesting and
they didn't. Oh well.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 18th, 2013 at 3:52:26 PM
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Quote: ams288Breaking Bad has never been a show about the evolution of Walt Jr. How much does a teenager really change over the course of two years?
Complaining about his character is like complaining that baby Holly hasn't been given enough to do.
Walt, Skyler, Hank, Jesse, etc. have evolved tremendously over five seasons. Some of the best written/acted characters on TV.
Anyone who can't appreciate that is just a troll.
I don't think that EvenBob is arguing that Walt, Skyler, Hank, Jesse, etc. have not evolved. He simply said that Walt Jr. did not evolve.
Good TV writers have shown huge evolution in teen characters, often brilliantly. Look at Buffy Summers when her mother died. That was one of the most radical change in a tv character in the history of TV.
On March 12, 1987, a special one-hour episode of Family Ties aired, with limited commercial interruption. The first third of “‘A’ My Name Is Alex” follows the Keaton family of Columbus, Ohio, in the days after the funeral for Greg, oldest son Alex’s best friend, who has died in an automobile accident. Everyone seems down about it except for Alex, who’s strangely upbeat—even manic. That’s because he’s hiding the deep spiritual crisis that Greg’s death has touched off. Alex was supposed to be in the car with Greg when he crashed. Is it pure coincidence that Alex blew off his plans that day? Does God have some larger purpose for sparing Alex and taking Greg? The last, commercial-free half-hour of the episode takes place on a mostly bare stage, as Alex talks with an off-screen therapist about all this—about his life, his family, and his expectations.
September 18th, 2013 at 4:22:11 PM
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Quote: pacomartinLook at Buffy Summers when her mother died. That was one of the most radical change in a tv character in the history of TV.
I heard about Buffy the Vampire Slayer long before I
saw it. The oldest daughter was a huge fan and I thought
it was just another stupid kid show. Man, was I wrong.
Buffy was a work of almost genius, and entertaining as
hell too. The characters kept growing and changing in very
real ways, all revolving around a silly premise that a small town
teen valley girl from S Calif was a vampire slayer.
Josh Whedon was the creator and wrote and directed a lot
of the episodes. Did you see 'The Avengers'? That was his
story, his screenplay, and he directed it. Mega talented guy.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 18th, 2013 at 4:40:41 PM
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Quote: pacomartin
On March 12, 1987, a special one-hour episode of Family Ties aired, with limited commercial interruption. The first third of “‘A’ My Name Is Alex” follows the Keaton family of Columbus, Ohio, in the days after the funeral for Greg, oldest son Alex’s best friend, who has died in an automobile accident. Everyone seems down about it except for Alex, who’s strangely upbeat—even manic. That’s because he’s hiding the deep spiritual crisis that Greg’s death has touched off. Alex was supposed to be in the car with Greg when he crashed. Is it pure coincidence that Alex blew off his plans that day? Does God have some larger purpose for sparing Alex and taking Greg? The last, commercial-free half-hour of the episode takes place on a mostly bare stage, as Alex talks with an off-screen therapist about all this—about his life, his family, and his expectations.
I remember that, best work of Michael J Fox's career.
You couldn't watch it and not be moved. I think it packed
a whallop in the ratings, also.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 18th, 2013 at 4:41:40 PM
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The general consensus is that the Walt call was a way to get Sky off the hook. He knew the phone would be bugged. There was no other reason to call. Just to berate her? Nah.
Also my guess (and also the general consensus) is the poison might have something to do with Whatshername, because they've made a point of always showing her drinking out of her teacup for the past two years. I do enjoy the wiki article/comparison of Walt on the ground in the sand crying as a parallel to Ozymandias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias_%28Breaking_Bad%29
Also my guess (and also the general consensus) is the poison might have something to do with Whatshername, because they've made a point of always showing her drinking out of her teacup for the past two years. I do enjoy the wiki article/comparison of Walt on the ground in the sand crying as a parallel to Ozymandias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias_%28Breaking_Bad%29
September 18th, 2013 at 5:00:58 PM
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'The episode received widespread critical acclaim and was described by several publications as the series' best episode'
I agree, its in the top 3, anyway. I would say my favorite
was when Tuco took Walt and Jesse to his place in the
desert where Hector lived. That was a very edgy episode,
and brilliantly played by Raymond Cruz as Tuco.
My next would be the last one of season 3, where Jesse shoots
Gale in the face. I really like the scene where Gale is singing
along with the complicated Spanish song, I wonder how long
it took the actor to learn it. When Jesse is standing there with
the gun pointed at Gale, I actually enjoyed Aaron Paul for
a change. Look at his face, you think that's easy to do? A minute
before, the actor is sipping coffee and he has to go into that
character when he's not feeling that way at all. And because
these shows are always one camera affairs, they have to do it
multiple times from different angles. That's why actors are not
overpaid, they work for every dime of it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 18th, 2013 at 5:26:39 PM
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The final episode is called Felina.
{The series finale of Breaking Bad is September 29, and as Danger has already written, that’s going to be one murderous night of television for your DVRs. What we know about the finale from Vince Gilligan — who wrote and directed the episode — is that it will be “polarizing,” and from Dean Norris, we know that it ends “properly.” We also know that Bob Odenkirk has no idea what’s going to happen in the finale because, after he read his lines in the script, he threw it in the trash so he wouldn’t be spoiled to the ending of his own show.}
http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/09/meaning-behind-breaking-bads-final-episode-felina/#ixzz2fIG38Hos
{The series finale of Breaking Bad is September 29, and as Danger has already written, that’s going to be one murderous night of television for your DVRs. What we know about the finale from Vince Gilligan — who wrote and directed the episode — is that it will be “polarizing,” and from Dean Norris, we know that it ends “properly.” We also know that Bob Odenkirk has no idea what’s going to happen in the finale because, after he read his lines in the script, he threw it in the trash so he wouldn’t be spoiled to the ending of his own show.}
http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/09/meaning-behind-breaking-bads-final-episode-felina/#ixzz2fIG38Hos
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 18th, 2013 at 5:36:35 PM
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Quote: EvenBobThe final episode is called Felina.
{The series finale of Breaking Bad is September 29, and as Danger has already written, that’s going to be one murderous night of television for your DVRs. What we know about the finale from Vince Gilligan — who wrote and directed the episode — is that it will be “polarizing,” and from Dean Norris, we know that it ends “properly.” We also know that Bob Odenkirk has no idea what’s going to happen in the finale because, after he read his lines in the script, he threw it in the trash so he wouldn’t be spoiled to the ending of his own show.}
http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/09/meaning-behind-breaking-bads-final-episode-felina/#ixzz2fIG38Hos
Yeah I saw that title months ago because the Episode Guide on wiki went all the way to the end. Obviously a reference to Marty Robbins "El Paso".
I just watched the phone call scene again and it's clear that Walt is pained to say what he's saying, especially the Hank part. So he is doing it for the family. He knows the cops are there. He knows they are staying and he's going, and the only way to protect them is to say "you knew nothing about my business" and "you told me to stop" etc. I even think Sky understands what he's doing, in the part before she says "I'm sorry". She has a look on her face of understanding.
Also when the cop calls in the Amber Alert, I was surprised Holly is 18 months. Because she was born about 3-4 months into the series (Sky about 4-5 months pregnant in the pilot?). So that means his return on his "52" at Dennys is not too far away. (It's not like he was hiding out very long...almost barely any time at all)
September 19th, 2013 at 5:14:04 AM
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Quote: EvenBobThen why is he there if he serves no function. That's
how these things work. Remember Happy Days?
Do you recall Richie had an older brother in the first
season? Then he disappeared, the writers could figure
out no use for him. You see that a lot on TV. Heck,
Buffy all of a sudden got a younger sister in the middle
of that series and she came out of nowhere! Try and
explain that to the viewers. But she was needed, she
added depth to the show that wasn't there before, it
was a brilliant move on Josh Whedon's part.
You talk like Walt Jr is a real person. He's not, he's
a character in a teleplay, nothing more. My opinion
is the writers could have made him interesting and
they didn't. Oh well.
Happy Days was before my time.
And Buffy is my all time favorite TV show. Dawn's random appearance at the beginning of season 5 WAS explained to the viewers, ingeniously.
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
September 23rd, 2013 at 4:45:34 AM
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A couple:
Walter White, after escaping via the vacuum man into hiding (a fine Robert Forster here), he hits a psychic rock bottom in his New Hampshire hiding and isolation bungalow, and blows his cover calling Walter Jr. at school from a bar, who despises him. He was unable to wax philosophically with his daemons and calls himself in, in a pub at the last scene. Havoc on all. Meanwhile, Jesse's been brutalized by Jack & Todd's crew in captivity. Psychic agony abound for all.
Walter White, after escaping via the vacuum man into hiding (a fine Robert Forster here), he hits a psychic rock bottom in his New Hampshire hiding and isolation bungalow, and blows his cover calling Walter Jr. at school from a bar, who despises him. He was unable to wax philosophically with his daemons and calls himself in, in a pub at the last scene. Havoc on all. Meanwhile, Jesse's been brutalized by Jack & Todd's crew in captivity. Psychic agony abound for all.
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