benbakdoff
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April 1st, 2011 at 1:41:36 PM permalink
Resorts in Atlantic City has fired 16 cocktail waitresses after telling them that they are not a fit for their sexy new uniforms. Some of the women have been on the job since the casino opened in 1978. Is anyone sensing positive EV here?
FarFromVegas
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April 1st, 2011 at 1:45:27 PM permalink
I'll let you know after the Walmart suit settles.
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April 1st, 2011 at 1:54:11 PM permalink
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These new outfits are part of the hotels rebranding, tied-in with a 1920s-theme, echoing Boardwalk Empire; the cocktail waitresses were asked to slip into skimpy flapper costumes, complete with fishnet stockings and high heels. The women claim the only available outfits were sizes 2 and 4, and a modeling agency hired by the casino judged and dismissed them if they weren't found "feminine enough."



Flappers were traditionally flat as a flounder. I say hire drag queens with no hips.

Before I had kids, I was like a size zero, which wasn't terribly feminine. "Boyish" would have been charitable.
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April 1st, 2011 at 2:29:13 PM permalink
It seems to me that it's perfectly acceptable to hire based on looks but firing based on looks is just bad form - I hope these women got a sufficient severance. Although, if you have a job that depended on you looking good you really shouldn't let yourself go and it's insulting to the company you work for if you do. I'm a little speechless on this.
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April 1st, 2011 at 2:34:07 PM permalink
Legally and from a mere public relations viewpoint this is dangerous ground, but lets face it: anyone can carry a tray of drinks and make change and stuff like that. The position has always been closely linked to the display of anatomy and that means that youth is itself a factor.

I would realize its difficult legally but although we don't say only fat men to ring a bell at Christmas time they can define the position along anatomical requirements. The job is not serving drinks, its serving drinks in a friendly manner that involves display of the anatomy, fundamental sexual appeal, posing for photos with your arm around a slightly sloshed gambler who wants his friend to snap a momento photo, constantly smiling even though you don't like being ogled and occasionally pawed by drunks and constantly walking around as if you thought you were wearing flats instead of high heels. Thats the way the casino makes the guys leave with an empty wallet but a smile on their face. The empty wallet part is easy, the smile is what brings the customer back again.

Male dealers have to keep their appearances up and invest in some dental work and alot of time in the gym. Its not as if middle aged males are not subject to unusually strict standards as well. Just look at that semi final round in a poker tournament: if its males, the money is brought out by women in skimpy outfits. If its female finalists, the women wear evening gowns. Yet either way, the women are young and attractive. Its Sin City not Sag City.

If I owned a casino would I be so strict about it? No. I'd remind them when they were hired that its a youth and beauty ambiance issue. Don't get implants to work here, but if you already have them you will probably be making more in tips than otherwise. I'd never force a cocktail waitress to wear high heels though and I'd never say that pawing must be endured, only that they are expected to know how to deal with a too jovial drunk without instantly calling for security. Its a fine line. Barmaids and cocktail waitresses are not hired for their ability to mix and serve drinks, that is merely the Jacks Or Better part.

You don't see 80 year old females in the topless dance revues. And no amount of Equal Rights campaigning is ever going to change that. Same thing with those Chippendale shows... fat old fogies like me just won't get hired as a Chippendale's dancer.
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April 1st, 2011 at 3:16:14 PM permalink
Quote: FarFromVegas

Before I had kids, I was like a size zero, which wasn't terribly feminine. "Boyish" would have been charitable.



Real women wear size 12 :P
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April 1st, 2011 at 3:31:54 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

You don't see 80 year old females in the topless dance revues.


No, but you sure do see 'em waitressing at Ballys. I think Ballys' policy is "If MGM Grand hired you ladies back when it opened here in 1973, you've got tenure".
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April 1st, 2011 at 4:14:29 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Real women wear size 12 :P



Real fat women.
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April 1st, 2011 at 4:22:12 PM permalink
I'm not at attorney, but the airlines have weight limits for their flight attendants. Some have been fired for gaining too much weight, and I believe the subsequent lawsuits went in favor of the airlines, because such rules were clearly in the employment contract. I would imagine Resorts would have a similar clause for them to have the confidence to do what they did.
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April 1st, 2011 at 4:24:43 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I would imagine Resorts would have a similar clause for them to have the confidence to do what they did.



Not to mention if many of them have been there since 78, they're is their 50's now.
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