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thlf
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February 15th, 2011 at 1:57:49 PM permalink
Jerry's back soon. Either tomorrow or the next day. Gonna take bets on how long this time?
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February 15th, 2011 at 1:59:47 PM permalink
I hope he stays around for a while. MKL needs to be held in check by someone and I get too angry to do it.
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February 15th, 2011 at 2:01:31 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

I hope he stays around for a while. MKL needs to be held in check by someone and I get too angry to do it.



Second.

Maybe they can compete to see who's more obnoxious.
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February 15th, 2011 at 2:13:16 PM permalink
Do we need to encourage the school bully to deal with the people you don't like?
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February 15th, 2011 at 2:15:13 PM permalink
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February 15th, 2011 at 2:27:45 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Do we need to encourage the school bully to deal with the people you don't like?



Need? Well, no. I wouldn't mind, but no.

You're right. It's petty on my part and I should stop.
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February 15th, 2011 at 4:11:22 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Second.

Maybe they can compete to see who's more obnoxious.



Personal insult, Nareed. Will be reported.
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February 15th, 2011 at 4:16:29 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

I hope he stays around for a while. MKL needs to be held in check by someone and I get too angry to do it.



And who holds YOU in check?

Interesting that there are so many people here not only who don't like being disagreed with, but also stoop to insulting behavior in doing so. You need to hold yourself in check, my friend. You and I don't see the world the same way, and you can feel free to think that it's because your point of view is "right" and mine is "wrong", but there is no need for your hostile behavior. You went totally apeshit when people (not just me) answered your 500 spins question in a way that disagreed with your own preconceived notions---you said that you wanted to see if people were "crazy", as in, DISAGREED WITH YOU (horrors to Betsy!).

Take a good long look in the mirror. Or get all exercised at what I'm saying and spew some more insults. Your choice.
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February 15th, 2011 at 4:17:02 PM permalink
So was it Nareed's command of the language that got him in trouble? If he had said "Maybe they can compete to see who makes the most obnoxious comments" would he avoid the personal insult issue?
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February 15th, 2011 at 4:30:46 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

So was it Nareed's command of the language that got him in trouble? If he had said "Maybe they can compete to see who makes the most obnoxious comments" would he avoid the personal insult issue?



Technically, yes. In another thread, when Finsrule said, "You sure can be dense sometimes" (for the heinous crime of not agreeing with him), he violated the rule against personal insults, in a similar way.

You can attack the writing, or the idea, or the argument, but you can't attack the person. Nareed, I suspect, doesn't care: he/she has lashed out at anyone who has tendered even a tiny perceived slight against LBGT people: my crime was to state that there is no such thing as a real sex change operation. For that opinion, I have apparently been consigned to the lowest circle of Nareed's personal hell.

I would like to think that even a statement such as your modified version wouldn't be articulated by anyone with decent manners, but I neither expect that from Nareed or Finsrule, nor would it be a forum violation if they restated their insults in such a fashion.
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February 15th, 2011 at 4:40:16 PM permalink
For the record, I think Jimmy came back about three weeks ago, using a new name, and keeping a somewhat lower profile.
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February 15th, 2011 at 4:44:19 PM permalink
HotBlonde? :-O
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February 15th, 2011 at 4:47:28 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

For the record, I think Jimmy came back about three weeks ago, using a new name, and keeping a somewhat lower profile.

Agree, and not HotBlond.
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February 15th, 2011 at 4:58:11 PM permalink
Quote: sunrise089

Agree, and not HotBlond.



Really??? I thought that was a dead giveaway.
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February 15th, 2011 at 5:28:11 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

In another thread, when Finsrule said, "You sure can be dense sometimes" (for the heinous crime of not agreeing with him), he violated the rule against personal insults, in a similar way..




You sure can be overly sensitive too. (I consider sensitivity to be a compliment, I cry at every movie)

You're good at using the rules of this forum to your advantage too. You insult people with sarcasm and patronization. Then when they say something as heinous as "You sure can be dense sometimes" you cry "PERSONAL INSULT!" (That is a compliment too. You are very crafty)

If it happens, I think I can handle being suspended for a day for my vicious attack. I don't average 17 posts a day. (You're very persistent, another compliment)
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February 15th, 2011 at 5:41:05 PM permalink
The "Jerry's back soon" thread.

Also known as Exhibit A as evidence answering the comment, "we need more girls on this site."
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February 15th, 2011 at 6:11:29 PM permalink
Quote: ItsCalledSoccer

The "Jerry's back soon" thread.

Also known as Exhibit A as evidence answering the comment, "we need more girls on this site."



Not that I don't want women around, but after where I work I like the "guy talk" format here. Yesterday one female co-worker was calling mastercard to see where her joint card was used to see what here husband might have bought here for Valentine's Day. Today one was going crazy because FedEx shipped her phone to two regional sorting facilities on oppisite sides of the state instead of "dropping it off." I'm afraid what tomorrow will bring. Had I been laid off from my old job a week or two sooner I would have collected unemployment and given craps school 10 hours a day of my attention.

I should have stayed in school....wait, I did stay in school. *sigh*
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February 15th, 2011 at 6:13:31 PM permalink
Quote: thlf

Jerry's back soon. Either tomorrow or the next day. Gonna take bets on how long this time?



He is on today's list of visitors.
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February 15th, 2011 at 8:25:22 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

You sure can be overly sensitive too. (I consider sensitivity to be a compliment, I cry at every movie)

You're good at using the rules of this forum to your advantage too. You insult people with sarcasm and patronization. Then when they say something as heinous as "You sure can be dense sometimes" you cry "PERSONAL INSULT!" (That is a compliment too. You are very crafty)

If it happens, I think I can handle being suspended for a day for my vicious attack. I don't average 17 posts a day. (You're very persistent, another compliment)



LOL Finsrule! I applaud your cleverness, and am proud that you are a fellow St. Louisan! (FYI - My wife is a huge Dolphins fan, & a regular on several Dolphins forums, so you aren't alone as a Fins fan here in STL.)
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February 15th, 2011 at 8:50:50 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

He is on today's list of visitors.



I love Jerry, he brings out the very best in MKL. Watching intellects that are so similar wrestle intellectually with each other is very entertaining.
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February 15th, 2011 at 9:03:52 PM permalink
Quote: Toes14

LOL Finsrule! I applaud your cleverness, and am proud that you are a fellow St. Louisan! (FYI - My wife is a huge Dolphins fan, & a regular on several Dolphins forums, so you aren't alone as a Fins fan here in STL.)



I actually just moved from St. Louis back to Chicago. I do miss STL, and I'll be back this weekend visiting. I'm a huge Blues fan, so I'll be at the game Saturday.

I'll try to play some of Pai Gow Dan's game over at Ameristar, and I'm going to take my wife over to River City for the buffet, she's never been there before.

Go Blues!
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February 15th, 2011 at 9:05:12 PM permalink
Quote: Toes14

LOL Finsrule! I applaud your cleverness, and am proud that you are a fellow St. Louisan! (FYI - My wife is a huge Dolphins fan, & a regular on several Dolphins forums, so you aren't alone as a Fins fan here in STL.)



Rooting for the same sports team as you do doesn't make someone "clever".
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February 15th, 2011 at 9:08:28 PM permalink
But actually reading what people's posts say does make you intelligent.

Tell me where he said he rooted for the same sports team as I did......
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February 15th, 2011 at 9:08:39 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

You sure can be overly sensitive too. (I consider sensitivity to be a compliment, I cry at every movie)

You're good at using the rules of this forum to your advantage too. You insult people with sarcasm and patronization. Then when they say something as heinous as "You sure can be dense sometimes" you cry "PERSONAL INSULT!" (That is a compliment too. You are very crafty)

If it happens, I think I can handle being suspended for a day for my vicious attack. I don't average 17 posts a day. (You're very persistent, another compliment)



You don't think there was anything wrong with what you said, and you don't think there's anything wrong with your tone or manner. That speaks volumes more about you than anything I could possibly say.

And BTW, I'll post 1000 posts a day if I feel like it, with or without your approval.
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February 15th, 2011 at 9:09:40 PM permalink
Oh, crap, I just realized: Finsrule IS Jerry! (or, at least, he's being coached by him)
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February 15th, 2011 at 10:00:53 PM permalink
Although Jerry is likely a Sockpuppet How many sockpuppets does he have time to be?
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February 16th, 2011 at 5:53:57 AM permalink
Quote: mkl654321



Interesting that there are so many people here not only who don't like being disagreed with, but also stoop to insulting behavior in doing so.



You pull this all the time. You cry the innocent victim card, then blast the person while you're in your rebuttal of his/her "insults".
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February 16th, 2011 at 6:53:13 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Although Jerry is likely a Sockpuppet How many sockpuppets does he have time to be?



All at once? I'm guessing three. Five if he has nimble feet :P

Altogether, as many as his time allows. Fifity, twenty eight, one thousand seven hundred and one. He's only limited by his ability to keep them straight and give them different names....
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February 16th, 2011 at 6:53:39 AM permalink
Sorry, I think what Nareed meant to say was "Maybe they can compete to see who writes more obnoxiously."
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February 16th, 2011 at 7:03:45 AM permalink
Well I must say this has been the most interesting thread I've read in I'd say about the .........last month.
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February 16th, 2011 at 7:08:24 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Sorry, I think what Nareed meant to say was "Maybe they can compete to see who writes more obnoxiously."



Thanks!

I'm pretty sure by this point I can call mkl, and his soul mate JL, anything I want and you'd all find how that's not an insult. I'd like to think you like me that much, but I think the truth is you all really dislike those two.

But, seriously, everyone's obnoxious at one time or another. So asking who's more obnoxious among two or more people is not an insult. Not literally. What it was meant as remains open to question, of course, but the literal meaning isn't.
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February 16th, 2011 at 8:22:20 AM permalink
Quote: thlf

Well I must say this has been the most interesting thread I've read in I'd say about the .........last month.



Your probably hanging around on the wrong forum then...
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February 16th, 2011 at 8:38:54 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

For the record, I think Jimmy came back about three weeks ago, using a new name, and keeping a somewhat lower profile.



Yeah, I've been calling him Jerry for a while.
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February 16th, 2011 at 8:43:28 AM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

You don't think there was anything wrong with what you said, and you don't think there's anything wrong with your tone or manner. That speaks volumes more about you than anything I could possibly say.

And BTW, I'll post 1000 posts a day if I feel like it, with or without your approval.




At that point, I think you will be posting to no audience.
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February 16th, 2011 at 9:56:03 AM permalink
Quote: pcket5s

You pull this all the time. You cry the innocent victim card, then blast the person while you're in your rebuttal of his/her "insults".



The difference, which seems to escape many people as well as yourself, is that I don't disagree with someone by saying "you're an idiot." I also rarely fire the first shot. But think what you like.
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February 16th, 2011 at 9:57:36 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Thanks!

I'm pretty sure by this point I can call mkl, and his soul mate JL, anything I want and you'd all find how that's not an insult. I'd like to think you like me that much, but I think the truth is you all really dislike those two.

But, seriously, everyone's obnoxious at one time or another. So asking who's more obnoxious among two or more people is not an insult. Not literally. What it was meant as remains open to question, of course, but the literal meaning isn't.



Wow, nice dissembly.

And no, Nareed, you can't call ANYONE "anything you want" here. There are rules of civil behavior that you must obey.
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February 16th, 2011 at 9:58:28 AM permalink
Quote: dm

At that point, I think you will be posting to no audience.



Actually, all you can control is whether or not you--JUST you--read my posts. I'd actually rather you didn't.
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February 16th, 2011 at 10:24:00 AM permalink
I click on a thread about jerry's return, then come in and find 4 pages of banter involving mkl. The word 'foreplay' comes to mind.
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February 16th, 2011 at 10:29:50 AM permalink
Quote: gog

I click on a thread about jerry's return, then come in and find 4 pages of banter involving mkl. The word 'foreplay' comes to mind.



If this site had rep, I would give it for this one.
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February 16th, 2011 at 10:37:20 AM permalink
Quote: gog

I click on a thread about jerry's return, then come in and find 4 pages of banter involving mkl. The word 'foreplay' comes to mind.



The polls are clear. They favor ostrazising both in the classical sense.
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February 16th, 2011 at 11:06:41 AM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

The difference, which seems to escape many people as well as yourself, is that I don't disagree with someone by saying "you're an idiot." I also rarely fire the first shot. But think what you like.



I agree you rarely fire the first shot. But you can't help yourself sometimes. Like for instance in the modern racism thread when you rifled off this about EvenBob... I consider it insulting

Quote: mkl654321, from modern racism thread

Bob, you can't write, you can't spell, and you say a LOT of really, really stupid things....

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February 16th, 2011 at 11:11:02 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

The polls are clear. They favor ostrazising both in the classical sense.



MLK should re-run his poll he conducted last year asking if he or J.L. should leave the forum.. and if he got more votes that J.L. he would leave...I bet the poll would have different results this time around.
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February 16th, 2011 at 1:38:39 PM permalink
Quote: pcket5s

MLK should re-run his poll he conducted last year asking if he or J.L. should leave the forum.. and if he got more votes that J.L. he would leave...I bet the poll would have different results this time around.



I thougth we were done with such polls.

But I wouldn't mind bringing along some potsherds to WovCon just in case :P
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February 16th, 2011 at 1:43:28 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I thougth we were done with such polls.



I was just being facetious...I don't want another thread devoted to how much we love MLK.
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February 16th, 2011 at 1:50:47 PM permalink
Quote: pcket5s

I was just being facetious...I don't want another thread devoted to how much we love MLK.



I choose to take your statement literally. That would be the shortest thread on record.
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February 16th, 2011 at 3:42:42 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

Actually, all you can control is whether or not you--JUST you--read my posts. I'd actually rather you didn't.




OK, no problem. So I won't read your posts unless they get quoted in another post. But, I certainly won't be responding to any more of your posts. Not that I will know, but does this apply to everyone? Are you going to post a list of posters-readers who you don't want reading your posts?
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February 16th, 2011 at 3:44:29 PM permalink
Jerry, please come back. I just lost 75% of my reading material.
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February 16th, 2011 at 7:05:40 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

The polls are clear. They favor ostrazising both in the classical sense.



I guess I'm somewhat flattered in a way, that in Jerry's absence, there's another forum member who has stepped into his metaphorical shoes, and developed a hard-on for me.
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February 16th, 2011 at 7:06:43 PM permalink
Quote: dm

OK, no problem. So I won't read your posts unless they get quoted in another post. But, I certainly won't be responding to any more of your posts. Not that I will know, but does this apply to everyone? Are you going to post a list of posters-readers who you don't want reading your posts?



Yes:

1. You.
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February 16th, 2011 at 7:11:30 PM permalink
Quote: pcket5s

I agree you rarely fire the first shot. But you can't help yourself sometimes. Like for instance in the modern racism thread when you rifled off this about EvenBob... I consider it insulting



EvenBob is kind of special; and I don't consider that to be an insult in his case: it's more the unfortunate truth. The entire thread/question that he started was not only badly reasoned, but also kind of odious in its implications. Note, however, that I did NOT say "Bob, you are an idiot." I do draw a distinction between what a person says and his actual intellect. He does indeed say many, many stupid things, but I don't think that he is stupid--far from it, in fact. It's just that he's the Dan Quayle of this forum, and he doesn't even realize it.
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