Guns legal in casinos

Supreme Court strikes Hawaii ban on guns on private properties that are open to the public.

So....?

My local casino bans guns.

Supreme Court strikes down Hawaii law restricting guns on private property that's open to public - CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-hawaii-gun-law-wolford-v-lopez-decision/

...The high court said last week in a case involving a federal firearms restriction that the government cannot automatically disarm people who regularly use marijuana and are not dangerous.

The Supreme Court's ruling does not impact Hawaii's other restrictions on guns in places like bars, beaches or parks, which were not at issue in the case, or sensitive locations like schools or government buildings.

Hawaii's law, which has been dubbed the "vampire rule," requires armed concealed-carry permit holders to seek permission before entering private property that is open to the public. Carrying a gun without that permission is a misdemeanor that is punishable by up to one year in prison.

Hawaii is one of five states with laws presumptively restricting carry by license-holders on private property, though similar measures in New York, California and Maryland have been blocked by courts. In the remaining 45 states, licensed handgun owners can generally carry arms onto publicly-accessible private property. ...

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My local casino bans guns.
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I haven't been in any that don't ban guns. I thought that was practically a standard. Maybe not?

Here in Arizona, many establishments have signs saying weapons not allowed, and some that state firearms are welcome. I have only seen it once when a restaurant refused service to a group of bikers wearing sidearms. Most bars have no-weapons signage.
There was a guy who called himself the armed and angry vet who slung around an M16 wherever he went, but I think he is in jail. He was an ahole who cared more about YT views than anyone's rights.

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My local casino bans guns.
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I haven't been in any that don't ban guns. I thought that was practically a standard. Maybe not?
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In Vegas it's about 50-50 whether they have an anti-gun sign up. It is supposed to be posted at every entrance, but they know those signs are bad for business so they try to hide them.

For what those signs really say:

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Safety is a top priority here at Wehateyou Casino, so all guests are prohibited from having firearms on the premises. But we do have armed security, and in case someone starts shooting our security department will dutifully rush to the office suites and hide with us in upper management as we lock ourselves in our offices, while everybody else in the building is on their own. But don't worry, we'll be perfectly safe!

A casino security guard once told me just keep it covered and especially if you're drinking because someone might get the wrong idea.

There is no legal penalty for carrying a gun in an establishment in spite of an anti-gun sign, most they can do is tell you to leave. But I'm AP and that happens to me all the time anyway, so I carry concealed in there. The way I see it, if I ever have to take a firearm out of concealment in a casino that means some freakshow is in there trying to kill people and being banned from the casino is the least of my worries. I might not even want to go back there again after that.

Regarding the court decision pertaining to the "vampire law" (called that because Stoker's Dracula could not enter a room unless he was explicitly invited) the Hawaii law required establishments to explicitly welcome guns in the establishment with a sign (thus making them targets for whatever). That's a novel legal principle, where a business owner is required to communicate something in order for another private citizen to lawfully do something on his premises. In every other case a business owner doesn't have to do squat to give permission; he can say "No outside food or beverages" but if he doesn't it's no one else's business if you bring in outside food and beverages. Same for your gun, now.

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Supreme Court strikes Hawaii ban on guns on private properties that are open to the public.

So....?
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So you are not understanding what it says.

Hawaii law was that guns were banned unless the gun carrier asked permission. Any establishment can still ban guns if it wishes. But you are no longer breaking state law by entering without asking.

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Supreme Court strikes Hawaii ban on guns on private properties that are open to the public.

So....?
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So you are not understanding what it says.

Hawaii law was that guns were banned unless the gun carrier asked permission. Any establishment can still ban guns if it wishes. But you are no longer breaking state law by entering without asking.
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How would i know what it covered as I only had heard that short description when I posted about it?

Armed thugs may be intimidating voters in New Orleans this weekend.

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Armed thugs may be intimidating voters in New Orleans this weekend.
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Political thugs brainwash voters everyday.

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Armed thugs may be intimidating voters in New Orleans this weekend.
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Oh come on.
Keep it on topic, Chump.
7 days.

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My local casino bans guns.
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I haven't been in any that don't ban guns. I thought that was practically a standard. Maybe not?
link to original post

In Vegas it's about 50-50 whether they have an anti-gun sign up. It is supposed to be posted at every entrance, but they know those signs are bad for business so they try to hide them.

For what those signs really say:

Quote:

Safety is a top priority here at Wehateyou Casino, so all guests are prohibited from having firearms on the premises. But we do have armed security, and in case someone starts shooting our security department will dutifully rush to the office suites and hide with us in upper management as we lock ourselves in our offices, while everybody else in the building is on their own. But don't worry, we'll be perfectly safe!

A casino security guard once told me just keep it covered and especially if you're drinking because someone might get the wrong idea.

There is no legal penalty for carrying a gun in an establishment in spite of an anti-gun sign, most they can do is tell you to leave. But I'm AP and that happens to me all the time anyway, so I carry concealed in there. The way I see it, if I ever have to take a firearm out of concealment in a casino that means some freakshow is in there trying to kill people and being banned from the casino is the least of my worries. I might not even want to go back there again after that.

Regarding the court decision pertaining to the "vampire law" (called that because Stoker's Dracula could not enter a room unless he was explicitly invited) the Hawaii law required establishments to explicitly welcome guns in the establishment with a sign (thus making them targets for whatever). That's a novel legal principle, where a business owner is required to communicate something in order for another private citizen to lawfully do something on his premises. In every other case a business owner doesn't have to do squat to give permission; he can say "No outside food or beverages" but if he doesn't it's no one else's business if you bring in outside food and beverages. Same for your gun, now.
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didn't know that about vampires!

The original vampire, Varney, could enter places uninvited. Perhaps Stoker created that rule trying to separate his character from the earlier vampires.