ID Idiocy
Quote: Ace2The US, Liberia and Myanmar are the only countries in the world that don’t use the metric system. You think it’s a good idea that we’re the only ones on the cumbersome imperial system?Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2In continental Europe showing a passport and passing through a metal detector seems to be standard procedure to enter a casino.
So is using the metric system. Doesn't make it an idea we want to emulate.
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Some nations use the metric system, some nations put men on the moon.
Seriously? Who keeps their SS card with them? Mine is under lock & key 2000 miles from Laughlin!Quote: RogerKintSpirit Mountain Casino in Arizona, near Laughlin, requires the patron to provide a social security card before they are paid on jackpots of $1200 or more.
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Remind me to never play slots/VP there!
Quote: EvenBobI couldn't tell a centimeter from a millimeter from a centipede. It's all just confusing nonsense to me and to almost anybody else in this country. A kilometer just seems dumb to me. The speed on the freeway is 130 km per hour? It just sounds ridiculous.
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Yes, you've made it very clear in this forum on a number of occasions that you have no grasp of basic math. You don't need to keep reminding us.
Quote: Ace21000 millimeters or 100 centimeters in a meter. 1000 meters in a kilometer. Same system for weight and volume
Such a nonsensical, ridiculous system
5280 feet per mile, 12 inches per foot makes calculations much easier
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I just find it really convenient that my speedometer simultaneously reads cubits/second and miles/hour.
-- EvenBob Abe Simpson
At the office, furlongs per fortnight is our preferred unit of measure!Quote: DieterI just find it really convenient that my speedometer simultaneously reads cubits/second and miles/hour.
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Yes, you've made it very clear in this forum on a number of occasions that you have no grasp of basic math. You don't need to keep reminding us.
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I know the metric system makes my manhood sound bigger but that's not enough to make me want to switch. I have no idea how the intricate math involved makes the transmission in my car work but every time I drive it it works just fine. How is that possible if you have to totally understand the math of everything before it will work. Oh that's right, you don't have to understand the math at all.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWu
Yes, you've made it very clear in this forum on a number of occasions that you have no grasp of basic math. You don't need to keep reminding us.
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I know the metric system makes my manhood sound bigger but that's not enough to make me want to switch. I have no idea how the intricate math involved makes the transmission in my car work but every time I drive it it works just fine. How is that possible if you have to totally understand the math of everything before it will work. Oh that's right, you don't have to understand the math at all.
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They think they are doing better because they are getting 3.8 liters vs 1 gallon. 3.8 is more than 1. Like 6:5 is more than 3:2 since 6 is twice as much as three.....
Keep your Royalle with cheese.
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Yes, you've made it very clear in this forum on a number of occasions that you have no grasp of basic math. You don't need to keep reminding us.
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I know the metric system makes my manhood sound bigger but that's not enough to make me want to switch. I have no idea how the intricate math involved makes the transmission in my car work but every time I drive it it works just fine. How is that possible if you have to totally understand the math of everything before it will work. Oh that's right, you don't have to understand the math at all.
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They think they are doing better because they are getting 3.8 liters vs 1 gallon. 3.8 is more than 1. Like 6:5 is more than 3:2 since 6 is twice as much as three.....
Keep your Royalle with cheese.
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One of the best things Julia Child did and why her her book was such a great success was she converted all the metric measurements into the math that Americans could understand. It was a huge undertaking but it paid huge dividends. She had to do it recipe by recipe but she knew if she didn't nobody would know what she was talking about. I watch a cooking YouTube video by a Canadian guy and he's always screwing up because he can't read the American math so he just wings it.
Quote: JoemanAt the office, furlongs per fortnight is our preferred unit of measure!Quote: DieterI just find it really convenient that my speedometer simultaneously reads cubits/second and miles/hour.
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I just feel silly discussing fuel economy in firkins per furlong, though...
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2The US, Liberia and Myanmar are the only countries in the world that don’t use the metric system. You think it’s a good idea that we’re the only ones on the cumbersome imperial system?Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2In continental Europe showing a passport and passing through a metal detector seems to be standard procedure to enter a casino.
So is using the metric system. Doesn't make it an idea we want to emulate.
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Some nations use the metric system, some nations put men on the moon...
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...using the metric system internally for their calculations
Quote: darkozBesides a hijacked thread there are posts that are so stupid displaying Americanism that I am just embarrassed.
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Well, to get things slightly back on topic, when the Illuminati finally take over the world and institute the New World Order government, our global ID cards will probably be in metric.
I was offered an option to have my insurance company track my car for a slight discount. Yeah, that's just gonna blow my premiums off the road.
Quote: darkozBesides a hijacked thread there are posts that are so stupid displaying Americanism that I am just embarrassed.
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That is kind of a racist statement against Americans.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: darkozBesides a hijacked thread there are posts that are so stupid displaying Americanism that I am just embarrassed.
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That is kind of a racist statement against Americans.
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Noticeably you didn't deny the original point.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: darkozBesides a hijacked thread there are posts that are so stupid displaying Americanism that I am just embarrassed.
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That is kind of a racist statement against Americans.
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I can't tell if this is just a joke or proving darkoz's point...
Either way it's pretty funny.
Quote: ChumpChangeIt's the low bridges on Long Island that are racist.
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Who wants to go to Long Island anyways?
Quote: TigerWuQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: darkozBesides a hijacked thread there are posts that are so stupid displaying Americanism that I am just embarrassed.
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That is kind of a racist statement against Americans.
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I can't tell if this is just a joke or proving darkoz's point...
Either way it's pretty funny.
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Depends on what his point is I guess.....
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: TigerWuQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: darkozBesides a hijacked thread there are posts that are so stupid displaying Americanism that I am just embarrassed.
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That is kind of a racist statement against Americans.
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I can't tell if this is just a joke or proving darkoz's point...
Either way it's pretty funny.
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Depends on what his point is I guess.....
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Point proven again lol
Quote: DieterQuote: Ace21000 millimeters or 100 centimeters in a meter. 1000 meters in a kilometer. Same system for weight and volume
Such a nonsensical, ridiculous system
5280 feet per mile, 12 inches per foot makes calculations much easier
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I just find it really convenient that my speedometer simultaneously reads cubits/second and miles/hour.
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Well I never knew that.
Converting cubits per second to mile/hour? The answer is 0.99342222222222. has a house edge of 0.658%. That house edge will get you eventually.
ExactlyQuote: rawtuffQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2The US, Liberia and Myanmar are the only countries in the world that don’t use the metric system. You think it’s a good idea that we’re the only ones on the cumbersome imperial system?Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2In continental Europe showing a passport and passing through a metal detector seems to be standard procedure to enter a casino.
So is using the metric system. Doesn't make it an idea we want to emulate.
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Some nations use the metric system, some nations put men on the moon...
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...using the metric system internally for their calculations
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American technology, medical, science have been on metric for many years. Even automotive. Try working on an American car made in the last thirty years without a metric wrench set
Quote: OnceDearQuote: DieterQuote: Ace21000 millimeters or 100 centimeters in a meter. 1000 meters in a kilometer. Same system for weight and volume
Such a nonsensical, ridiculous system
5280 feet per mile, 12 inches per foot makes calculations much easier
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I just find it really convenient that my speedometer simultaneously reads cubits/second and miles/hour.
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Well I never knew that.
Converting cubits per second to mile/hour? The answer is 0.99342222222222. has a house edge of 0.658%. That house edge will get you eventually.
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That, good sir, depends on which cubit you use.
I use an 18 inch cubit. There may be some difference between US and Imperial.
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Someone asked earlier who carries a social security card. I do, despite the SSA's best recommendations. I hate having to go back with a claim receipt.
You’d be fine learning two conversion factors: A cup is about 240 ml and a pound is about 400 g. But…that would require like 30 seconds of thinking outside of your American bubble. And that’s too much to askQuote: EvenBobQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWu
Yes, you've made it very clear in this forum on a number of occasions that you have no grasp of basic math. You don't need to keep reminding us.
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I know the metric system makes my manhood sound bigger but that's not enough to make me want to switch. I have no idea how the intricate math involved makes the transmission in my car work but every time I drive it it works just fine. How is that possible if you have to totally understand the math of everything before it will work. Oh that's right, you don't have to understand the math at all.
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They think they are doing better because they are getting 3.8 liters vs 1 gallon. 3.8 is more than 1. Like 6:5 is more than 3:2 since 6 is twice as much as three.....
Keep your Royalle with cheese.
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One of the best things Julia Child did and why her her book was such a great success was she converted all the metric measurements into the math that Americans could understand. It was a huge undertaking but it paid huge dividends. She had to do it recipe by recipe but she knew if she didn't nobody would know what she was talking about. I watch a cooking YouTube video by a Canadian guy and he's always screwing up because he can't read the American math so he just wings it.
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Quote: ChumpChangeIt's the low bridges on Long Island that are racist.
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Most of those bridges are now gone, but buses are still not allowed on the parkways. It seems that it is the parkways, not the bridges, that were racist.
This sign prohibits all vehicles above 6’11” in height from entering a roadway where it is posted.
https://tlc-mag.com/archive_issues/NYS_DOT_pkwy_restrictions_oct13.html
I'm only familiar with the Taconic State Parkway from long ago. There's quite a lot of Parkways on the maps on the bottom of the page that are exclusive to cars. They didn't want passenger busses on these roads.
FDR was involved in the Parkway system too, way back in the early 1920's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taconic_State_Parkway
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American technology, medical, science have been on metric for many years. Even automotive. Try working on an American car made in the last thirty years without a metric wrench set
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Military uses metric for a lot of things, too.
Quote: Ace2ExactlyQuote: rawtuffQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2The US, Liberia and Myanmar are the only countries in the world that don’t use the metric system. You think it’s a good idea that we’re the only ones on the cumbersome imperial system?Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2In continental Europe showing a passport and passing through a metal detector seems to be standard procedure to enter a casino.
So is using the metric system. Doesn't make it an idea we want to emulate.
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Some nations use the metric system, some nations put men on the moon...
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...using the metric system internally for their calculations
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American technology, medical, science have been on metric for many years. Even automotive. Try working on an American car made in the last thirty years without a metric wrench set
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Cars are more proof of why metric is silly.
You gonna write a song about your "409" or your 6.7?
All those Mustang buyers in the 80s thought they were getting a 5.0 really got a 4.9!
Quote: ChumpChangeNo Commercial Vehicles, No Tractor Trailers on New York State's Parkways! It's the law!
https://tlc-mag.com/archive_issues/NYS_DOT_pkwy_restrictions_oct13.html
I'm only familiar with the Taconic State Parkway from long ago. There's quite a lot of Parkways on the maps on the bottom of the page that are exclusive to cars. They didn't want passenger busses on these roads.
FDR was involved in the Parkway system too, way back in the early 1920's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taconic_State_Parkway
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It wasn't just busses it was anything commercial. IIRC even a pickup with an open bed was barred but I am not sure on that one or if it was the Long Islanders yanking our cranks.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: ChumpChangeNo Commercial Vehicles, No Tractor Trailers on New York State's Parkways! It's the law!
https://tlc-mag.com/archive_issues/NYS_DOT_pkwy_restrictions_oct13.html
I'm only familiar with the Taconic State Parkway from long ago. There's quite a lot of Parkways on the maps on the bottom of the page that are exclusive to cars. They didn't want passenger busses on these roads.
FDR was involved in the Parkway system too, way back in the early 1920's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taconic_State_Parkway
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It wasn't just busses it was anything commercial. IIRC even a pickup with an open bed was barred but I am not sure on that one or if it was the Long Islanders yanking our cranks.
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Until fairly recently, pickups required a cap, and an attached passenger seat to drive on the parkways or to park almost anywhere overnight in NYC.
The problem with NY parkways like the Southern State or the Taconic is they were built for leisurely scenic drives, when the speed limits were forty miles an hour. In many cases, the right of way doesn't allow straightening or widening them.
Quote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: ChumpChangeNo Commercial Vehicles, No Tractor Trailers on New York State's Parkways! It's the law!
https://tlc-mag.com/archive_issues/NYS_DOT_pkwy_restrictions_oct13.html
I'm only familiar with the Taconic State Parkway from long ago. There's quite a lot of Parkways on the maps on the bottom of the page that are exclusive to cars. They didn't want passenger busses on these roads.
FDR was involved in the Parkway system too, way back in the early 1920's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taconic_State_Parkway
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It wasn't just busses it was anything commercial. IIRC even a pickup with an open bed was barred but I am not sure on that one or if it was the Long Islanders yanking our cranks.
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Until fairly recently, pickups required a cap, and an attached passenger seat to drive on the parkways or to park almost anywhere overnight in NYC.
The problem with NY parkways like the Southern State or the Taconic is they were built for leisurely scenic drives, when the speed limits were forty miles an hour. In many cases, the right of way doesn't allow straightening or widening them.
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One thing I do remember is our vehicles, light trucks but with commercial markings, were forbotten. So our service managers on the Island were allowed the sedans full managers were. This caused some jealously upstate so they just let them get sedans as well. When a new regional manager took over and ended this it took years to clean up.
Quote: AitchTheLetterNot everyone under the age of 21 LOOKS that way. I know several college and high school age kids that could pass as mid-20s aged with minimal coaching. I know that Kansas casinos specifically require you to provide ID if any staff request it and they will kick you out for not having any valid forms of ID.
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While checking everyone is a bit silly, carrying ID is just part of being a grown up.
If you listen to music released in the last 50 years, you will hear a lot more references to 5.0 and 9 millimeter than 409 (if any 409). American auto switched to metric many years ago. They wanted a logical decimal system instead an ancient one based on rods, chains and king’s feetQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2ExactlyQuote: rawtuffQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2The US, Liberia and Myanmar are the only countries in the world that don’t use the metric system. You think it’s a good idea that we’re the only ones on the cumbersome imperial system?Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2In continental Europe showing a passport and passing through a metal detector seems to be standard procedure to enter a casino.
So is using the metric system. Doesn't make it an idea we want to emulate.
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Some nations use the metric system, some nations put men on the moon...
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...using the metric system internally for their calculations
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American technology, medical, science have been on metric for many years. Even automotive. Try working on an American car made in the last thirty years without a metric wrench set
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Cars are more proof of why metric is silly.
You gonna write a song about your "409" or your 6.7?
All those Mustang buyers in the 80s thought they were getting a 5.0 really got a 4.9!
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Someone asked earlier who carries a social security card. I do, despite the SSA's best recommendations. I hate having to go back with a claim receipt.
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That is absurd that a casino would require you to present a social security card. Doesn't Form W9 render that completely obsolete?
Quote: Ace2If you listen to music released in the last 50 years, you will hear a lot more references to 5.0 and 9 millimeter than 409 (if any 409). American auto switched to metric many years ago. They wanted a logical decimal system instead an ancient one based on rods, chains and king’s feetQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2ExactlyQuote: rawtuffQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2The US, Liberia and Myanmar are the only countries in the world that don’t use the metric system. You think it’s a good idea that we’re the only ones on the cumbersome imperial system?Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2In continental Europe showing a passport and passing through a metal detector seems to be standard procedure to enter a casino.
So is using the metric system. Doesn't make it an idea we want to emulate.
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Some nations use the metric system, some nations put men on the moon...
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...using the metric system internally for their calculations
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American technology, medical, science have been on metric for many years. Even automotive. Try working on an American car made in the last thirty years without a metric wrench set
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Cars are more proof of why metric is silly.
You gonna write a song about your "409" or your 6.7?
All those Mustang buyers in the 80s thought they were getting a 5.0 really got a 4.9!
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The irony is all these guys are probably into guns and last I checked you purchased "9 millimeter" and not "a 3.7/8 inch" handgun.
Funny when Americans want to own guns suddenly they understand the metric system.
Quote: darkozThe irony is all these guys are probably into guns and last I checked you purchased "9 millimeter" and not "a 3.7/8 inch" handgun.
Funny when Americans want to own guns suddenly they understand the metric system.
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.22, .223, .300, .308, .50, etc.
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Someone asked earlier who carries a social security card. I do, despite the SSA's best recommendations. I hate having to go back with a claim receipt.
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That is absurd that a casino would require you to present a social security card. Doesn't Form W9 render that completely obsolete?
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I choose to follow the path of less resistance, rather than being a thorn in their side and invite more scrutiny.
There may be a different way, but the "usual way" seems to be drivers license & social security card.
edit: This applies to "out in the sticks", where I play. Maybe it's different where you play.
Silliest thing you ever heard right? That’s how our ancient Old-English non-decimal American system of measurements works. It’s why no other country uses it.
Quote: Ace2Until 1971, Britain used the Shillling. 20 shilling in a pound sterling, 12 pence in a shilling. So if something cost £1.73 you’d actually say “1 pound, 14 shillings and 7 and 1/5th pence”.
Silliest thing you ever heard right? That’s how our ancient Old-English non-decimal American system of measurements works. It’s why no other country uses it.
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Some of the old Mad magazines make fun of that with characters saying stuff like "three shillings, five pence, a thruppence, tuppence, fruppence and a half penny".
I just so happened to stop by there a few months ago. They scan everyone’s ID at the door. Then they make you stare into a camera. When there’s such a gross over zealousness I like to act dumb and try to get them to justify why they are asking for something. In this case I noticed it was the same machine they used to use to get temperatures. So I act startled and said oh we’re still taking everyone’s temperature? They said no it’s facial recognition.Quote: darkoz
Jake's 58?
They are a bunch of idiots there. They did something similar to my daughter.
And it's 18 and over there.
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These ID measures are way more about casinos seeing how far they can push the limits rather than about actual age verification. They are not just about age verification but more about them just tracking and gathering as much info about who’s coming in as possible. I know people who have been ID’d and then within a few minutes of entering were approached and trespassed because the scanner presumably cross checks databases.
We as a society have also become way to accustomed to just handing over our info. It would be great to see a tv clip of a person who looked official just going around asking people for their ID and seeing how many people just willingly hand it over cause they’re asked.
Quote: cmlotitoA casino I frequent checks players ID when entering the casino during non-daytime hours. In my experience that covers from about 6pm to 6am. Now, I would say either do it all the time or none of the time. Bad people have been known to actually be out and about during the daytime. On the plus side, they make everyone walk thru a metal detector every time when entering the casino. I love it when my spare eyeglass case sets it off and they give me the ole stink eye.
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It would be fun to pull a large crowbar out of your jacket.
Wait for it.
"Sorry, I was changing my tire half a hour ago."
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2The US, Liberia and Myanmar are the only countries in the world that don’t use the metric system. You think it’s a good idea that we’re the only ones on the cumbersome imperial system?Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: Ace2In continental Europe showing a passport and passing through a metal detector seems to be standard procedure to enter a casino.
So is using the metric system. Doesn't make it an idea we want to emulate.
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Some nations use the metric system, some nations put men on the moon.
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Calculations in the Apollo Moon program used the metric system even though the readouts were in Imperial.
Quote: SandybestdogI just so happened to stop by there a few months ago. They scan everyone’s ID at the door. Then they make you stare into a camera. When there’s such a gross over zealousness I like to act dumb and try to get them to justify why they are asking for something. In this case I noticed it was the same machine they used to use to get temperatures. So I act startled and said oh we’re still taking everyone’s temperature? They said no it’s facial recognition.Quote: darkoz
Jake's 58?
They are a bunch of idiots there. They did something similar to my daughter.
And it's 18 and over there.
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These ID measures are way more about casinos seeing how far they can push the limits rather than about actual age verification. They are not just about age verification but more about them just tracking and gathering as much info about who’s coming in as possible. I know people who have been ID’d and then within a few minutes of entering were approached and trespassed because the scanner presumably cross checks databases.
We as a society have also become way to accustomed to just handing over our info. It would be great to see a tv clip of a person who looked official just going around asking people for their ID and seeing how many people just willingly hand it over cause they’re asked.
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That's correct and incidentally That's the casino I mentioned I hit for a year with multiple cards.
Here they are checking who is inside their casino and meanehile I used dozens of cards from people who never even entered the premises.
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Someone asked earlier who carries a social security card. I do, despite the SSA's best recommendations. I hate having to go back with a claim receipt.
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That is absurd that a casino would require you to present a social security card. Doesn't Form W9 render that completely obsolete?
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At least one Kansas casino requires two forms of ID for the larger jackpots. A social security card is an accepted form of ID in that case.
Quote: SOOPOOThe only error the casino made was not giving notice. In the summer, put up these signs….. ‘Beginning November ID will be required of all guests to enter. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause’.
If a casino requires ID to enter, then either have ID or take your business elsewhere.
In this story, the main error the casino made was not understanding that some people would be taking their business elsewhere.
Quote: TomGQuote: SOOPOOThe only error the casino made was not giving notice. In the summer, put up these signs….. ‘Beginning November ID will be required of all guests to enter. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause’.
If a casino requires ID to enter, then either have ID or take your business elsewhere.
In this story, the main error the casino made was not understanding that some people would be taking their business elsewhere.
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Having worked in the casino business with many casinos I can tell you that is usually part of the discussion. Depending on the circumstances many decisions are made knowing that the majority of the patrons that won't be returning are the ones they would rather not have return.
Quote: AitchTheLetterNot everyone under the age of 21 LOOKS that way. I know several college and high school age kids that could pass as mid-20s aged with minimal coaching. I know that Kansas casinos specifically require you to provide ID if any staff request it and they will kick you out for not having any valid forms of ID.
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Yes, they can kick you out for not doing so but they can’t require you to “provide” ID. Last I checked Kansas was still in America and not 1940’s Germany, and casino employees aren’t law officers either, an ID isn’t required to simply exist anywhere.
