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rxwine
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September 5th, 2023 at 5:28:48 PM permalink
Unproven system threads should never rise to the top of the thread pile no matter how recent the post. They should always be at the bottom of the recent thread when posted. Visible but at the bottom. For that matter you could do that with off-topic threads as well.
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Mental
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September 5th, 2023 at 7:11:45 PM permalink
Supply and demand.

The BS threads have tremendous supply because there are so many ways to delude yourself into thinking that you have found a novel system/method/alchemy to turn a series of -EV bets into a winning system.

The BS threads have tremendous demand because the provide a simple recipe for gambling success, even if unfounded. Most gamblers fail to make money, and they don't want to own their own failure. It is better to have a system that tells you when to jump your bets. Then, when that series of bets busts you, it is not your fault. It is the BS of some 'expert' that is at fault.

Threads based on complicated math die out pretty quickly on this forum. Most people cannot contribute anything of value. With BS threads, everyone has an opinion and everyone else has an opinion about everyone else's opinion. I don't blame the site for allowing BS threads to take over the forum. It seems like an AP move for them based on supply and demand.
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darkoz
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September 5th, 2023 at 7:24:42 PM permalink
It's pretty ironic that BS in gambling also means Basic Strategy.
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EvenBob
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September 5th, 2023 at 7:56:50 PM permalink
Quote: Mental

Supply and demand.

The BS threads have tremendous supply because there are so many ways to delude yourself into thinking that you have found a novel system/method/alchemy to turn a series of -EV bets into a winning system

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But the big tell is, you don't win for very long before you start losing. There's no so-called BS strategy that lets you win for years and then all of a sudden fails. If it's BS it's going to show you it's BS pretty damn soon, and I'm talking within days usually within hours. There's tons of these guys on YouTube who say they have a winning roulette system and I can watch it for 2 minutes and tell you that they don't have anything of value.
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EvenBob
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September 5th, 2023 at 8:00:19 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

It's pretty ironic that BS in gambling also means Basic Strategy.
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It also stands for bet selection, something I've always harped on. Bet selection is everything, without good bet selection you have nothing. That's another way to spot a fraud is they never have bet selection, all they ever have is some kind of betting system that always involves a progression.
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rxwine
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September 5th, 2023 at 8:07:43 PM permalink
Quote: Mental

Supply and demand.

The BS threads have tremendous supply because there are so many ways to delude yourself into thinking that you have found a novel system/method/alchemy to turn a series of -EV bets into a winning system.

The BS threads have tremendous demand because the provide a simple recipe for gambling success, even if unfounded. Most gamblers fail to make money, and they don't want to own their own failure. It is better to have a system that tells you when to jump your bets. Then, when that series of bets busts you, it is not your fault. It is the BS of some 'expert' that is at fault.

Threads based on complicated math die out pretty quickly on this forum. Most people cannot contribute anything of value. With BS threads, everyone has an opinion and everyone else has an opinion about everyone else's opinion. I don't blame the site for allowing BS threads to take over the forum. It seems like an AP move for them based on supply and demand.
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I can't see any downside. All the "interesting" people will claim the fun is at the bottom of the page. Whatever the case, I just see it as better signal to noise separation.
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ChumpChange
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September 5th, 2023 at 8:11:46 PM permalink
I just found out I have a home game of Pai Gow Poker which I never played before so I'm going to find a way to beat that without the Fortune Bonus and beat it like I was winning big Fortune Bonuses. All I have to do is a progression that pays me 27X my base bet for hitting 9 in a row wins, or 77X my base bet for 14 wins in a row. I can feel the table limits encroaching. What table limits will I find at a real casino? $5-$1K, $10-$2K, $15-$3K, $25-$5K? I may have to find a real high limit room if I want $100-$20K, or $1K-$200K, or $10K-$2M.
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September 5th, 2023 at 11:35:44 PM permalink
Always bet pass when locals are rolling and DP when tourists are rolling. I’ve never lost using this system
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odiousgambit
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September 6th, 2023 at 4:10:04 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

I just found out I have a home game of Pai Gow Poker which I never played before so I'm going to find a way to beat that without the Fortune Bonus and beat it like I was winning big Fortune Bonuses. All I have to do is a progression that pays me 27X my base bet for hitting 9 in a row wins, or 77X my base bet for 14 wins in a row. I can feel the table limits encroaching. What table limits will I find at a real casino? $5-$1K, $10-$2K, $15-$3K, $25-$5K? I may have to find a real high limit room if I want $100-$20K, or $1K-$200K, or $10K-$2M.
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Ch-C, you get the award for Top Member Adhering to Hope Springs Eternal for Betting Systems .... the 2023 award is all locked up in your favor. Another member was in the running but was disqualified for using a method instead of a system.
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Mental
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September 6th, 2023 at 9:52:40 AM permalink
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Bet selection is everything, without good bet selection you have nothing.
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I agree. I have always felt you have nothing.
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TigerWu
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September 6th, 2023 at 10:10:00 AM permalink
Quote: Mental

Quote: EvenBob

Bet selection is everything, without good bet selection you have nothing.
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I agree. I have always felt you have nothing.
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