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I could never figure out if you have a method or system that wins far more than it loses why would you ever sell it if you can still play it. If you had a Goose that laid golden eggs why would you ever sell it. Thorp wrote his book about blackjack because he no longer wished to play it, so he sold it in the form of a book. I might eventually give my method away for free but I would never sell it.
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There is no need. You already outlined in detail how it "works" within this thread. The folks here are just too stubborn to absorb the info and run to the tables to give it a try.
tuttigym
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Every time I try EB's system I have a "feeling "...that it doesn't work!
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What system would that be, I only have a method. You are confused again..
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A rose by any other name is still a system
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I could never figure out if you have a method or system that wins far more than it loses why would you ever sell it if you can still play it. If you had a Goose that laid golden eggs why would you ever sell it. Thorp wrote his book about blackjack because he no longer wished to play it, so he sold it in the form of a book. I might eventually give my method away for free but I would never sell it.
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There is no need. You already outlined in detail how it "works" within this thread. The folks here are just too stubborn to absorb the info and run to the tables to give it a try.
tuttigym
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Every time I try EB's system I have a "feeling "...that it doesn't work!
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What system would that be, I only have a method. You are confused again..
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A rose by any other name is still a system
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Nope. A method and a system are two completely different things.
"System: a set of things working together as parts of a mechanism or an interconnecting network; a complex whole. Method: a particular procedure for accomplishing something,'
This is why I always correct it when somebody says I have a system. I have no system at all, I really wish I did because I think it would be easier to play. But I'm convinced there's no system that can beat roulette, it's a complete waste of time.
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I am skipping "elderly" in that I do not need a cane for upright mobility, and I am 83. So, what other "basic things" require additional assistance for you? AND I can bench press my 3.5 lb chihuahua.
I sure hope I skip elderly. I would like to go from old to dead.
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I could never figure out if you have a method or system that wins far more than it loses why would you ever sell it if you can still play it. If you had a Goose that laid golden eggs why would you ever sell it. Thorp wrote his book about blackjack because he no longer wished to play it, so he sold it in the form of a book. I might eventually give my method away for free but I would never sell it.
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There is no need. You already outlined in detail how it "works" within this thread. The folks here are just too stubborn to absorb the info and run to the tables to give it a try.
tuttigym
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Every time I try EB's system I have a "feeling "...that it doesn't work!
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What system would that be, I only have a method. You are confused again..
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A rose by any other name is still a system
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Nope. A method and a system are two completely different things.
"System: a set of things working together as parts of a mechanism or an interconnecting network; a complex whole. Method: a particular procedure for accomplishing something,'
This is why I always correct it when somebody says I have a system. I have no system at all, I really wish I did because I think it would be easier to play. But I'm convinced there's no system that can beat roulette, it's a complete waste of time.
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Calling your system a method is no different than Calling a whale a fish.
Just as a whale superficially looks like a fish, but isn't your system may superficially resemble a method but it isn't no matter how many times you call it such. What you use is a system and a flawed system at that.
You got one thing right. No system can beat roulette. Sorry to inform you that you have a system.
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I could never figure out if you have a method or system that wins far more than it loses why would you ever sell it if you can still play it. If you had a Goose that laid golden eggs why would you ever sell it. Thorp wrote his book about blackjack because he no longer wished to play it, so he sold it in the form of a book. I might eventually give my method away for free but I would never sell it.
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There is no need. You already outlined in detail how it "works" within this thread. The folks here are just too stubborn to absorb the info and run to the tables to give it a try.
tuttigym
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Every time I try EB's system I have a "feeling "...that it doesn't work!
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What system would that be, I only have a method. You are confused again..
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A rose by any other name is still a system
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Nope. A method and a system are two completely different things.
"System: a set of things working together as parts of a mechanism or an interconnecting network; a complex whole. Method: a particular procedure for accomplishing something,'
This is why I always correct it when somebody says I have a system. I have no system at all, I really wish I did because I think it would be easier to play. But I'm convinced there's no system that can beat roulette, it's a complete waste of time.
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Calling your system a method is no different than Calling a whale a fish.
Just as a whale superficially looks like a fish, but isn't your system may superficially resemble a method but it isn't no matter how many times you call it such. What you use is a system and a flawed system at that.
You got one thing right. No system can beat roulette. Sorry to inform you that you have a system.
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A system and a method are two entirely different things no matter how you trying to spin it. If they were the same they wouldn't have two different definitions. Duh..
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I am skipping "elderly" in that I do not need a cane for upright mobility, and I am 83. So, what other "basic things" require additional assistance for you? AND I can bench press my 3.5 lb chihuahua.
I sure hope I skip elderly. I would like to go from old to dead.
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But you think 60 is old. It's not.
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I could never figure out if you have a method or system that wins far more than it loses why would you ever sell it if you can still play it. If you had a Goose that laid golden eggs why would you ever sell it. Thorp wrote his book about blackjack because he no longer wished to play it, so he sold it in the form of a book. I might eventually give my method away for free but I would never sell it.
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There is no need. You already outlined in detail how it "works" within this thread. The folks here are just too stubborn to absorb the info and run to the tables to give it a try.
tuttigym
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Every time I try EB's system I have a "feeling "...that it doesn't work!
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What system would that be, I only have a method. You are confused again..
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A rose by any other name is still a system
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Nope. A method and a system are two completely different things.
"System: a set of things working together as parts of a mechanism or an interconnecting network; a complex whole. Method: a particular procedure for accomplishing something,'
This is why I always correct it when somebody says I have a system. I have no system at all, I really wish I did because I think it would be easier to play. But I'm convinced there's no system that can beat roulette, it's a complete waste of time.
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Calling your system a method is no different than Calling a whale a fish.
Just as a whale superficially looks like a fish, but isn't your system may superficially resemble a method but it isn't no matter how many times you call it such. What you use is a system and a flawed system at that.
You got one thing right. No system can beat roulette. Sorry to inform you that you have a system.
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A system and a method are two entirely different things no matter how you trying to spin it. If they were the same they wouldn't have two different definitions. Duh..
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I agree that a system and a .method are two different things.
What I am saying is that no matter how many times you call your system a method, it is still a system.
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I could never figure out if you have a method or system that wins far more than it loses why would you ever sell it if you can still play it. If you had a Goose that laid golden eggs why would you ever sell it. Thorp wrote his book about blackjack because he no longer wished to play it, so he sold it in the form of a book. I might eventually give my method away for free but I would never sell it.
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There is no need. You already outlined in detail how it "works" within this thread. The folks here are just too stubborn to absorb the info and run to the tables to give it a try.
tuttigym
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Every time I try EB's system I have a "feeling "...that it doesn't work!
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What system would that be, I only have a method. You are confused again..
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A rose by any other name is still a system
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Nope. A method and a system are two completely different things.
"System: a set of things working together as parts of a mechanism or an interconnecting network; a complex whole. Method: a particular procedure for accomplishing something,'
This is why I always correct it when somebody says I have a system. I have no system at all, I really wish I did because I think it would be easier to play. But I'm convinced there's no system that can beat roulette, it's a complete waste of time.
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Calling your system a method is no different than Calling a whale a fish.
Just as a whale superficially looks like a fish, but isn't your system may superficially resemble a method but it isn't no matter how many times you call it such. What you use is a system and a flawed system at that.
You got one thing right. No system can beat roulette. Sorry to inform you that you have a system.
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A system and a method are two entirely different things no matter how you trying to spin it. If they were the same they wouldn't have two different definitions. Duh..
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I agree that a system and a .method are two different things.
What I am saying is that no matter how many times you call your system a method, it is still a system.
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'Method is based on procedure whereas system is based on plan.'
This is a good explanation of the difference. My Method has no plan attached to it, it's free-flowing and not rigid. A system is always rigid.
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I am skipping "elderly" in that I do not need a cane for upright mobility, and I am 83. So, what other "basic things" require additional assistance for you? AND I can bench press my 3.5 lb chihuahua.
I sure hope I skip elderly. I would like to go from old to dead.
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But you think 60 is old. It's not.
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"Old" is subjective, not absolute.
I'm in my mid-forties and consider myself "old".
My "old lady" lives with multiple cats, and is "old" because all her joints creak and pop, despite being notably younger than me.
If Mr. Tuttigym hasn't gotten old yet, more power to him.
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I do the same thing in roulette. Through observation I noticed that at times randomness produces outcomes that are in my favor and I have learned how to exploit those times. It's not rocket science it's just plain old observation. Randomness in blackjack and in roulette repeats itself and if you can learn how to detect when that's happening you can produce a winning method.
Quote: EvenBobI do not see any difference in what I do and what a card counter does in blackjack. Through observation, before Thorp wrote his book, a few blackjack players noticed that at different times the end of the deck would be in their favor. There were times when randomness would produce results that were favorable to them. So they learned how to keep track of the cards that were already played to see if they could spot when that favorableness was going to happen.
I do the same thing in roulette. Through observation I noticed that at times randomness produces outcomes that are in my favor and I have learned how to exploit those times. It's not rocket science it's just plain old observation. Randomness in blackjack and in roulette repeats itself and if you can learn how to detect when that's happening you can produce a winning method.
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You do realize that a deck in play runs out of cards never to be used again in that round of play, don't you? While the numbers in roulette play are constantly available throughout all of the rounds of play. I believe you are a bit confused.
tuttigym
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I could never figure out if you have a method or system that wins far more than it loses why would you ever sell it if you can still play it. If you had a Goose that laid golden eggs why would you ever sell it. Thorp wrote his book about blackjack because he no longer wished to play it, so he sold it in the form of a book. I might eventually give my method away for free but I would never sell it.
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There is no need. You already outlined in detail how it "works" within this thread. The folks here are just too stubborn to absorb the info and run to the tables to give it a try.
tuttigym
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So I already outlined it in detail, huh. Refresh my memory, exactly how does it work again? Expect to hear the soothing sound of crickets now.. LOL
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A thread with 1500 posts and you still haven’t explained anything? Pffft.
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This is what my cats say when I try and teach them how to read. They just never get it.
Quote: tuttigymQuote: EvenBobI do not see any difference in what I do and what a card counter does in blackjack. Through observation, before Thorp wrote his book, a few blackjack players noticed that at different times the end of the deck would be in their favor. There were times when randomness would produce results that were favorable to them. So they learned how to keep track of the cards that were already played to see if they could spot when that favorableness was going to happen.
I do the same thing in roulette. Through observation I noticed that at times randomness produces outcomes that are in my favor and I have learned how to exploit those times. It's not rocket science it's just plain old observation. Randomness in blackjack and in roulette repeats itself and if you can learn how to detect when that's happening you can produce a winning method.
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You do realize that a deck in play runs out of cards never to be used again in that round of play, don't you? While the numbers in roulette play are constantly available throughout all of the rounds of play. I believe you are a bit confused.
tuttigym
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I was going to respond to this silliness then I saw who it was from. Never mind.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: tuttigymQuote: EvenBobI do not see any difference in what I do and what a card counter does in blackjack. Through observation, before Thorp wrote his book, a few blackjack players noticed that at different times the end of the deck would be in their favor. There were times when randomness would produce results that were favorable to them. So they learned how to keep track of the cards that were already played to see if they could spot when that favorableness was going to happen.
I do the same thing in roulette. Through observation I noticed that at times randomness produces outcomes that are in my favor and I have learned how to exploit those times. It's not rocket science it's just plain old observation. Randomness in blackjack and in roulette repeats itself and if you can learn how to detect when that's happening you can produce a winning method.
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You do realize that a deck in play runs out of cards never to be used again in that round of play, don't you? While the numbers in roulette play are constantly available throughout all of the rounds of play. I believe you are a bit confused.
tuttigym
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I was going to respond to this silliness then I saw who it was from. Never mind.
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What no "LOL"? How disappointing.
tuttigym
Quote: EvenBobMy point is in some casino games the randomness is very repetitive and you just need to find a way to know when it's coming; I think most experienced players know that randomness can be repetitive but they waste their time making bets when it's not in their favor because they don't take the initiative to figure out when the best time to bet is.
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OK, let's go with that premise. If you truly believe in that method, then craps would be a much better game with a higher profit potential in that one only needs to worry about a 7 out and only six numbers are available to win big. So, one could pick just one number bet big and watch it hit and then come down. Quite simple, yes? Better yet, since you would kinda know when the 7 will appear through the "repetitive randomness," bet big on all the numbers (4,5,6,8,9, & 10 plus the horn) hit just one number, then come down and leave. 84% chance of winning or thereabouts certainly better than a 50% chance of winning an even money bet.
I think you should consider it.
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymQuote: EvenBobMy point is in some casino games the randomness is very repetitive and you just need to find a way to know when it's coming; I think most experienced players know that randomness can be repetitive but they waste their time making bets when it's not in their favor because they don't take the initiative to figure out when the best time to bet is.
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OK, let's go with that premise. If you truly believe in that method, then craps would be a much better game with a higher profit potential in that one only needs to worry about a 7 out and only six numbers are available to win big. So, one could pick just one number bet big and watch it hit and then come down. Quite simple, yes? Better yet, since you would kinda know when the 7 will appear through the "repetitive randomness," bet big on all the numbers (4,5,6,8,9, & 10 plus the horn) hit just one number, then come down and leave. 84% chance of winning or thereabouts certainly better than a 50% chance of winning an even money bet.
I think you should consider it.
tuttigym
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I'm sorry I nodded off snoring after I read the word craps. Has to be the most boring game in the casino played by screaming maniacs.
My favorite casino is catching on to what I'm doing and they are starting to slow down my play by constantly disconnecting me after I make a bet. So I'm spreading out my play among more casinos and playing a grinding method rather than to jump in make my one unit and quit. By grinding I actually lose sometimes, have losing sessions, but I always end up making money at the end of the month and that's what counts. Being greedy never gets you anywhere except caught.
Quote: EvenBobI remember years ago at some offshore Casino that allowed American players that if I was winning too much they would start frequently disconnecting me. I had forgotten all about that but now I'm reminded. The casino I play at the most will often wait till I make a bet and then disconnect me and when I come back the bet didn't go through. 5 minutes later the same thing happens so it's not a coincidence. If it's a regular day and I'm making just regular plain old bets as usual I'll never get disconnected, never. It's only when you're inactive that they disconnect you and make you log back in. So they're trying to slow down my play.
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Most financial institutions will log you off after some time of inactivity. That's for your protection, not to slow you down
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Most financial institutions will log you off after some time of inactivity. That's for your protection, not to slow you down
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Good God do you even read what I wrote? They are not cutting me off when I'm inactive they're cutting me off after I place a bet. Then when I place another bet 5 minutes later they cut me off again. Yes I know as I said they cut you off if you're inactive for a long of time but that isn't the case here. If you don't have time to read the post why do you bother responding to it.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobI remember years ago at some offshore Casino that allowed American players that if I was winning too much they would start frequently disconnecting me. I had forgotten all about that but now I'm reminded. The casino I play at the most will often wait till I make a bet and then disconnect me and when I come back the bet didn't go through. 5 minutes later the same thing happens so it's not a coincidence. If it's a regular day and I'm making just regular plain old bets as usual I'll never get disconnected, never. It's only when you're inactive that they disconnect you and make you log back in. So they're trying to slow down my play.
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Most financial institutions will log you off after some time of inactivity. That's for your protection, not to slow you down
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Good God do you even read what I wrote? They are not cutting me off when I'm inactive they're cutting me off after I place a bet. Then when I place another bet 5 minutes later they cut me off again. Yes I know as I said they cut you off if you're inactive for a long of time but that isn't the case here. If you don't have time to read the post why do you bother responding to it.
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You literally wrote "it's only when you're inactive that they disconnect you". And right before that you wrote "if it's a regular day and I am making regular plain old bets I'll never get disconnected, never"
So you are saying you wrote contradictory statements?
I mean good God did YOU even read what you wrote?
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Most financial institutions will log you off after some time of inactivity. That's for your protection, not to slow you down
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Good God do you even read what I wrote? They are not cutting me off when I'm inactive they're cutting me off after I place a bet. Then when I place another bet 5 minutes later they cut me off again. Yes I know as I said they cut you off if you're inactive for a long of time but that isn't the case here. If you don't have time to read the post why do you bother responding to it.
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You literally wrote "it's only when you're inactive that they disconnect you". And right before that you wrote "if it's a regular day and I am making regular plain old bets I'll never get disconnected, never"
So you are saying you wrote contradictory statements?
I mean good God did YOU even read what you wrote?
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Congratulations, you went back and actually read the post and you still don't understand it. Why am I not surprised.