Evenbob's Roulette Thread
November 24th, 2023 at 7:24:15 PM
permalink
Quote: EvenBobWhen I was a kid I used to love shooting arrows with a bow. But I would lose arrows sometimes and it seems like I never had enough. I had this recurring dream I was in a field that was covered with arrows stuck in the ground and I would run around getting armfuls or arrows as many as I could carry until I realized in the dream how many arrows do I need.
This makes me *ahem* "quiver."
"What, me worry?"
November 25th, 2023 at 8:20:06 AM
permalink
Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
EB has already stated the advantage is only in his mind.
link to original post
What I said is the patterns are not real, our mind thinks it's seeing a pattern but it's really not. Humans are all about pattern recognition whether the patterns actually there or it isn't. But that doesn't mean they can't be exploited. Random outcomes do not create patterns they create pseudo patterns, and a pseudo pattern can be exploited for very short periods of time. And that's all I care about.
link to original post
So it's in your mind.
You see patterns. The patterns are only in your mind. And you exploit them.
Norman Bates mom was in his mind. He saw things his mother saw. And he exploited them.
Then he wound up in the loony bin.
link to original post
Norman Bates did not go to the Loony Bin. Because Norman Bates is not real, he only exists in our minds because we all watched a film based on a fictional screenplay and based on what was in Alfred Hitchcock's mind.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
November 25th, 2023 at 8:22:06 AM
permalink
I've been trying to stick with this thread [reasons unknown] but I'm done, no more
there has always been a problem reading this stuff, but the problem is escalating, it's just babbling now
there has always been a problem reading this stuff, but the problem is escalating, it's just babbling now
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
November 25th, 2023 at 8:47:18 AM
permalink
Quote: EvenBobQuote: rawtuff"The logic in observation" of it being red/black/odd/even/low/high/whatever not being "the same" is coming from where exactly?
link to original post
It comes from experience, study, and observation of the outcomes over a long period of time. We aren't dealing with a lot of numbers here, 37 or 38 pockets. There's only so many things that it's going to do, it's not going to go hog wild crazy like it would if you were dealing with 100 pockets. If you observe it long enough you will see that it does the same things over and over again, it repeats itself constantly because it doesn't have a choice, we're dealing with limited number of outcomes. So you see something happening that you've seen many times and you make an educated guess that it's going to keep doing that for at least one more spin. It quite often keeps going longer than one more spin but I don't care about that. That's a big trap and it's a trap everybody falls into. I cannot count the number of times where I made my bet and won and then played virtually and I would have won the next 10 in a row. You can't feel badly about that because that's greed. Because it worked that time doesn't mean it's going to work next time so I'm just happy getting one unit. I used to keep going with it just to see how much I could make but in the end it's not worth it. You'll bet 14 times and end up making four or five units. It's much safer to bet more money to make just one unit.
link to original post
Well, we live in a physical reality where every thing that is is determined by causality except maybe for fully random quantum jumps.
On macro scale an effect has a cause that has a cause that has a cause etc.
You cannot explain how, for example, a red colored slot on the roulette wheel has a higher chance of stopping that spinning ball than usual just because the previous 13 outcomes were rrr bbb rrr bbb r.. and your brain has spotted a pattern which, as you rightly say, is only in your mind and not a real entity in the reality with any kind of predictive or causal power, precisely because it comes from a string of outcomes of a random number generator device.
You cannot explain it because there is nothing to explain - there is no causation nor correlation between patterns in your head and future outcomes on a roulette wheel.
And the number of possible "patterns" that the 38 slots of roulette can produce is, one, mind boggling (I believe Dieter has posted the number elsewhere once) and, two, irrelevant. If you had an endless stream of "just" heads and tails of a random coin toss you might think it's even simpler to "exploit" the virtual patterns to predict the future outcomes better than 50/50 and you'll have the same success as with the roulette patterns, none.
Don't beat yourself up over past mistakes, you are going to f*** up again in the future, quite possibly in the most spectacular fashion, why worry about yesterday's f*** up's when you have tomorrow's f*** up's to look forward to?
You are a f*** up, and f***** up is part of your growth process, embrace the process.
November 25th, 2023 at 9:06:30 AM
permalink
Quote: gordonm888
Norman Bates did not go to the Loony Bin. Because Norman Bates is not real, he only exists in our minds because we all watched a film based on a fictional screenplay and based on what was in Alfred Hitchcock's mind.
link to original post
You left out the best part. Alfred Hitchcock exploited all that fake stuff in his mind that wasn't really there to make a ton of money. If you think you see a pattern among random outcomes it doesn't matter if it's really there or not, what matters is if it repeats can you exploit it. This concept seems to be out of the grasp of a lot of people.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 9:09:15 AM
permalink
Quote: odiousgambitI've been trying to stick with this thread [reasons unknown] but I'm done, no more
link to original post
Thank God. This is one of those threads where the fewer people participate the better because I don't have time to read all the incoherent nonsensical meanderings of people who aren't serious. I know I know, I have a screw loose and belong in the loony bin but as long as the casino keeps paying me for my insanity I'm perfectly happy. And pay me they do...
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 9:17:29 AM
permalink
Quote: rawtuff
You cannot explain how, for example, a red colored slot on the roulette wheel has a higher chance of stopping that spinning ball than usual
link to original post
Sure I can explain it. Patterns have a tendency to continue, not to quit. And it's not just one red colored slot, there are 18 of them. You have to look at the roulette wheel as having two options, two slots, one is red the other is black. If there's a zero or two those are inconsequential. When you know that certain patterns always have a tendency to continue rather than to stop, what your betting on is that it's not going to stop right then. And you're not dealing with 36 pockets, you're dealing with two. The concept behind this is simple beyond belief, the execution of it's a little harder. All it takes is time and practice which most people don't have the patience for. Now somebody will say but Bob, in the long term everything is equal, that pattern will stop exactly as often as it continues. Fortunately for us, we aren't playing in the long term we are playing in the extreme short-term where anything can happen. I say that again and again because nobody seems to have the ability to grasp it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 9:25:16 AM
permalink
Quote: EvenBobIf there's a zero or two those are inconsequential.
Earth to Even Bob...those two "inconsequential" things are what gives the casino the mathematical edge over the player.
Oh wait, in your world the math can be ignored: my bad, carry on....
"What, me worry?"
November 25th, 2023 at 10:11:15 AM
permalink
Quote: EvenBob
Sure I can explain it. Patterns have a tendency to continue, not to quit.
link to original post
And THAT, in roulette is simply and abjectly not true. Not true at all. THAT is the heart of pretty much every roulette method of the last 200 years.
You can take a trend "red, black, red, black, red, black, red, black, red, black, red, black" and consider whether the trend will continue or not.
And the answer IS it will have 48.6486486486 % probability of continuing and turn up Red. Not a good bet to make.
If there was any truth to 'Patterns have a tendency to continue' then we would have a sure fire (if infrequent) winning method.
We would just wait for, say, 15 consecutive reds or blacks or odds or evens and we would bet 1 unit on the trend to continue. If such a dead simple rule as 'Patterns have a tendency to continue' and surely 15 consecutive reds would count as such a trend, then we would just monitor many tables, wait, and win.
But it would be pointless and stupid. It has no more validity than "patterns have a tendency to come to an end on the next spin"
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
November 25th, 2023 at 10:21:06 AM
permalink
Quote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBob
Sure I can explain it. Patterns have a tendency to continue, not to quit.
link to original post
And THAT, in roulette is simply and abjectly not true. Not true at all.
link to original post
There is obviously more to it, but yes under certain circumstances patterns do have a tendency to continue rather than to quit. Obviously I'm not going to tell you what those circumstances are because I enjoy way too much seeing you wallow around in your righteous indignation. The patterns do not continue for long, they often only continue for one more spin. For me they continue for at least one more spin about 80% of the time. For you if you jumped in as a rookie they would end half the time because you don't know what to look for. A pattern is a pattern is not a pattern until it passes certain criteria. You learn this the hard way, by observation and trial and error. Believe it or don't, and I hope you don't because what fun would that be. No more maniacal weiggling, no more self-righteous indignitude..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 10:21:13 AM
permalink
Bringing this question over from the closed thread.
So,
Bumping this question, which gives EvenBob a great opportunity to show us his 'dodging awkward questions' prowess.
link to original post
link to original post
link to original post
link to original post
So,
Bumping this question, which gives EvenBob a great opportunity to show us his 'dodging awkward questions' prowess.
link to original post
link to original post
link to original post
link to original post
Quote: OnceDear
A little reminder : On 6 November, Just over two weeks ago, EvenBob WroteQuote: EvenBob
I'm going to try something new.... I'm going to do this for 2 weeks... Of course this is winning every session but that's what I do.
link to original post
So, I wonder if EB is going to report how it went? If not: Why not?
Assuming he averages one session per day and all sessions are a win, we should have something like
Session #1 7 Nov: $20 staked : Won
Session #2 8 Nov: $30 staked : Won
Session #3 9 Nov: $45 staked : Won
Session #4 10 Nov: $70 staked : Won
Session #5 11 Nov; $105 staked : Won
Session #6 12 Nov; $155 staked : Won
Session #7 13 Nov; $230 staked : Won
Session #8 14 Nov; $345 staked : Won
Session #9 15 Nov; $515 staked : Won
Session #10 16 Nov; $770 staked : Won
Session #11 17 Nov; $1155 staked : Won
Session #12 18 Nov; $1730 staked : Won
Session #13 19 Nov; $2595 staked : Won
Session #14 20 Nov; $3890 staked : Won
*All betting levels worked out quickly in my head, so E&OE
Now, EvenBob tells us that he sometimes gets multiple sessions per day, but sometimes goes several days without placing a bet. Fair enough.
Allowing for that, after the two weeks that he said he was going to run this experiment, this would be a great time for him to report his success. I invite him to stick it to us by boasting of his success. No need to prove it.
If he did succeed, then I'm sure we would all join in congratulating him.
Maybe something went wrong, or maybe he chose not to proceed. But it sure would put a lot of naysayers in their place if he simply reported how it went. Maybe he could tell us how it felt placing those bets over $1,000. And maybe he will share with us whether he plans to continue with this winning progression? Or maybe start it again from scratch? If not, why not?
I expect, that he did not proceed exactly as expected or proposed, but that's fair enough.
So, How about it EvenBob. Care to report how it went?{/b]
link to original post
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
November 25th, 2023 at 10:42:37 AM
permalink
Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBob
Sure I can explain it. Patterns have a tendency to continue, not to quit.
link to original post
And THAT, in roulette is simply and abjectly not true. Not true at all.
link to original post
There is obviously more to it, but yes under certain circumstances patterns do have a tendency to continue rather than to quit. Obviously I'm not going to tell you what those circumstances are because I enjoy way too much seeing you wallow around in your righteous indignation. The patterns do not continue for long, they often only continue for one more spin. For me they continue for at least one more spin about 80% of the time. For you if you jumped in as a rookie they would end half the time because you don't know what to look for. A pattern is a pattern is not a pattern until it passes certain criteria. You learn this the hard way, by observation and trial and error. Believe it or don't, and I hope you don't because what fun would that be. No more maniacal weiggling, no more self-righteous indignitude..
link to original post
My righteous indignation (there's no such word as weiggling or indignitude) pales into insignificance compared to your grandiose delusions and your ability to generate complete and utter loblocks.
If it makes you chuckle to watch me be right, then enjoy. I'll carry on being right and you'll carry on being wrong. I'm starting to enjoy the certain knowledge that you don't only not win at roulette, that you actually lose real money at the game. Don't squander the cat's food money. Nah. DO. Let the beggars starve.
Fear not, I won't ask you about your secret ability to identify patterns, I'll continue to know that there is no such secret. We both know that those patterns are in your head, and I have no wish to go there.
It gets really good 8 minutes in!
Last edited by: OnceDear on Nov 25, 2023
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
November 25th, 2023 at 10:53:32 AM
permalink
Quote: OnceDearI won't ask you about your secret ability to identify patterns, I'll continue to know that there is no such secret. We both know that those patterns are in your head, and I have no wish to go there.
EB has been selling this "snake oil" on various forums for decades and he never tires of it.
I've long believed that he's either "touched," deluded, or just pwning us: I'm not sure which.
Certainly his claims defy both common and uncommon sense.
Clearly he posts this, cat pics and food pics for ATTENTION.
"What, me worry?"
November 25th, 2023 at 11:12:34 AM
permalink
I'd rather this be a gambling support group for people who need to get their gambling on. It can be lonely out there and sometimes I need to check in for a social group. But I've got to start unplugging from the internet more and doing stuff I've been putting off for years.
November 25th, 2023 at 11:12:48 AM
permalink
It gets really good 8 minutes in!
link to original post
This is both hilarious and spot on.
Don't beat yourself up over past mistakes, you are going to f*** up again in the future, quite possibly in the most spectacular fashion, why worry about yesterday's f*** up's when you have tomorrow's f*** up's to look forward to?
You are a f*** up, and f***** up is part of your growth process, embrace the process.
November 25th, 2023 at 11:21:08 AM
permalink
Quote: MrVQuote: OnceDearI won't ask you about your secret ability to identify patterns, I'll continue to know that there is no such secret. We both know that those patterns are in your head, and I have no wish to go there.
EB has been selling this "snake oil" on various forums for decades and he never tires of it.
I've long believed that he's either "touched," deluded, or just pwning us: I'm not sure which.
Certainly his claims defy both common and uncommon sense.
Clearly he posts this, cat pics and food pics for ATTENTION.
link to original post
Does it matter which? We still charitably, or from force of habit, give him the attention.
Maybe he does pwn us. Let him. He doesn't seem to have much else going on. Maybe he wants us to pity him. Happy to oblige.
Individually, we can come and go in these Troll threads as we wish, Oh, we get drawn back to the train wreck. But he can't escape them even for a day. When he got suspended here, he had the urge to re-open the dialog in another forum.
Catch you later guys. I'll leave it with you a while. Feed the troll some fibre, because lately his poop as been a bit weak and runny.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
November 25th, 2023 at 1:08:16 PM
permalink
Quote: OnceDearMy righteous indignation (there's no such word as weiggling or indignitude) pales into insignificance
link to original post
It was supposed to be wriggling and I invented the word indignitude just for you. It means an attitude of indignation that permeates every post, and not in a nice way. It permeates in the way that everybody who enters my house knows that I have cats. The permeation gets their attention immediately.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 1:11:19 PM
permalink
Quote: ChumpChangeI'd rather this be a gambling support group
link to original post
I don't gamble so this is not a gambling support group. Please seek assistance elsewhere.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 1:11:44 PM
permalink
deleted
the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
November 25th, 2023 at 1:11:52 PM
permalink
Quote: rawtuff
It gets really good 8 minutes in!
link to original post
This is both hilarious and spot on.
link to original post
And yet you keep coming back and back and back. What does that say about you.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 1:13:45 PM
permalink
.
"Patterns" - a song by Simon and Garfunkel
"Impaled upon my wall
My eyes can dimly see
The pattern of my life
And the puzzle that is me
From the moment of my birth
To the instant of my death
There are patterns I must follow
Just as I must breathe each breath
And the pattern still remains
On the wall where darkness fell
And it's fitting that it should
For in darkness I must dwell
Like the color of my skin
On the day that I grow old
My life is made of patterns
That can scarcely be controlled"
.
"Patterns" - a song by Simon and Garfunkel
"Impaled upon my wall
My eyes can dimly see
The pattern of my life
And the puzzle that is me
From the moment of my birth
To the instant of my death
There are patterns I must follow
Just as I must breathe each breath
And the pattern still remains
On the wall where darkness fell
And it's fitting that it should
For in darkness I must dwell
Like the color of my skin
On the day that I grow old
My life is made of patterns
That can scarcely be controlled"
.
the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
November 25th, 2023 at 1:15:36 PM
permalink
Quote: OnceDear
Does it matter which? We still charitably, or from force of habit, give him the attention.
link to original post
This is way way more about problems you might have then about any problem I have. Saying I do it for attention is the easy way out, that way you don't have to face reality. That way you don't have to face the fact that I've done something you can't do. I've got the edge at a casino game. If you can't discuss that logically, or you think I'm full of it, then why are you here. Like I said this is way more about problems that you have than any problems that I have. I don't have any problems, quite the opposite.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 1:18:08 PM
permalink
Quote: lilredrooster.
"Patterns" - a song by Simon and Garfunkel
"Impaled upon my wall
My eyes can dimly see
The pattern of my life
link to original post
Different kind of pattern, has nothing to do with roulette. On top of that it's probably one of their most obnoxious songs. Like fingernails on a blackboard.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 1:51:14 PM
permalink
Quote: EvenBob
Different kind of pattern, has nothing to do with roulette.
link to original post
and roulette has nothing to do with patterns
no matter how many times you say it does
you can say it one million times but -
a roulette wheel doesn't have a mind
it's not a conscious thing
it doesn't remember what it did in the past and want to do it again
or think that it wants to deliver results that are long past due
go ahead and get the last word
you always do
it doesn't change anything
you're always wrong no matter how many times you say you're right and no matter how many last words you get in
that's why the powers that be at WoV confined you to one thread to post your nonsense about winning every time or 80% of the time depending on what mood you're in - you're the only one that's ever been confined that way
and you truly deserve the terms of your confinement
.
Last edited by: lilredrooster on Nov 25, 2023
the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
November 25th, 2023 at 2:38:42 PM
permalink
Quote: lilredrooster
and roulette has nothing to do with patterns
link to original post
You have it all figured out then. Which means you have nothing more to contribute here and you won't be coming back. Cool. Bye-bye,
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 3:02:52 PM
permalink
Quote: EvenBobFortunately for us, we aren't playing in the long term we are playing in the extreme short-term where anything can happen.
link to original post
You've been gambling for decades, kid. That's long term.
November 25th, 2023 at 3:39:32 PM
permalink
Quote: TigerWu
You've been gambling for decades, kid. That's long term.
link to original post
If you believe that you don't understand long-term. I'm wondering, what do you think is going to happen when I hit that magical elusive long-term number. Overnight do I just start losing all the time? I've never been able to figure that out, people use that like it's a club they beat you with it over the head. Long-term long-term long-term. Absolutely nothing has changed as far as winning goes since I started except it's easier for me to win now. Will some alarm go off and it's a Loser City from then on?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 4:12:58 PM
permalink
Quote: EvenBobQuote: lilredrooster
and roulette has nothing to do with patterns
link to original post
You have it all figured out then. Which means you have nothing more to contribute here and you won't be coming back.
link to original post
I'll come back whenever I want
you have no control over that
Remember - you're confined to this thread re posting your crapola
you can't post your crap in other threads
it's not allowed
only you have these restrictions
ever wonder why____?
here's a clue - because all of your posts re roulette are total BS
.
the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
November 25th, 2023 at 4:17:45 PM
permalink
Quote: EvenBob. It means an attitude of indignation that permeates every post, and not in a nice way. It permeates in the way that everybody who enters my house knows that I have cats. The permeation gets their attention immediately.
Could be he allows his home to reek of cat piss and poop in order to deter others from contacting him, but then again if they'd already gotten to know him that could be enough.
But I'll join O.D. and take a hiatus from pointing out the flaws in EB's brags...we all know what they are.
"What, me worry?"
November 25th, 2023 at 4:28:03 PM
permalink
.
oh, I'm very sorry
I forgot to mention your BS about baccarat - my bad
you have posted more BS about bogus winning systems than anybody who ever posted here and probably even anywhere else on any forum
at least you 've been confined
can't move around with your BS
thanks to the wisdom of the WoV leaders
.
oh, I'm very sorry
I forgot to mention your BS about baccarat - my bad
you have posted more BS about bogus winning systems than anybody who ever posted here and probably even anywhere else on any forum
at least you 've been confined
can't move around with your BS
thanks to the wisdom of the WoV leaders
.
the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
November 25th, 2023 at 4:51:18 PM
permalink
Quote: lilredrooster
I'll come back whenever I want
link to original post
Whatever you say, you're the boss. I always look forward to your posts here, they're so uplifting. Snort..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 4:53:09 PM
permalink
Quote: lilredrooster.
oh, I'm very sorry
I forgot to mention your BS about baccarat
.
link to original post
I really like Baccarat, I wish I could play it more but it doesn't provide enough information. I need something that plays my game far more often then baccarat does.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 4:58:16 PM
permalink
Quote: lilredrooster.
oh, I'm very sorry
I forgot to mention your BS about baccarat - my bad
not one single person here believes your BS
that's why you've been confined
that's why you're not allowed to post your BS method in other threads
your posts are a clown act
that's why you've been restricted
time to face reality - you BS posts won't fly
that dog won't hunt
.
the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
November 25th, 2023 at 5:03:17 PM
permalink
Quote: lilredrooster
not one single person here believes your BS
link to original post
People say that over and over and over and I wonder what they think it has to do with reality. Why they think what they believe means that something isn't true. Apparently it's important to them to keep repeating it because they don't believe it themselves. That's why people usually repeat things, it's not to convince somebody else is to convince them. You think if you keep saying it then it must be true. If it makes you feel better, I can't stop you from saying it. But you're wasting your time if you think it's supposed to have some effect on the reality of what I do. Maybe if you say it often enough you'll believe it eventually.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 5:19:12 PM
permalink
.
what's your feeling about your confinement by the powers that be at WoV_________?
do you think it was really unfair___________?
after all - you're providing a very valuable service here_________snort
.
what's your feeling about your confinement by the powers that be at WoV_________?
do you think it was really unfair___________?
after all - you're providing a very valuable service here_________snort
.
the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
November 25th, 2023 at 6:02:22 PM
permalink
Quote: lilredrooster.
what's your feeling about your confinement
.link to original post
Why do you keep calling this confinement. I was told months ago that I can't start anymore roulette threads. I've been told over and over again not to hijack other threads by talking about my roulette method. Changing the Gamble thread to this thread was my idea, ask Mike. Why you think this is confinement is a mystery. What's changed, nothing.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 25th, 2023 at 9:12:41 PM
permalink
Yo EB
If someone plays 00 roulette making even-money bets only, what is the chance they are ahead after 10,000 spins ?
If someone plays 00 roulette making even-money bets only, what is the chance they are ahead after 10,000 spins ?
It’s all about making that GTA
November 25th, 2023 at 9:20:31 PM
permalink
Well, no, he's got to find that 1.35% table with the $100 minimum and bet a million total with a $13.5K HA and with 1 SD back he'd only be behind $3.5K.
At 40 spins an hour, that will take 250 hours.
Of course I'd be looking to see how many sessions I can cash out at $50K of profit during those 10,000 spins.
At 40 spins an hour, that will take 250 hours.
Of course I'd be looking to see how many sessions I can cash out at $50K of profit during those 10,000 spins.
Last edited by: ChumpChange on Nov 25, 2023
November 25th, 2023 at 10:02:15 PM
permalink
Quote: Ace2Yo EB
If someone plays 00 roulette making even-money bets only, what is the chance they are ahead after 10,000 spins ?
link to original post
If it's you, or your average ploppy, the chances are zero. If it's me playing, the chances of being ahead are 100%
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 26th, 2023 at 12:53:55 PM
permalink
First session today get a zero, no biggie. Bet again get another zero. This happens about once in a blue moon. Bet again and I lose. Three losses in a row, very uncommon. But luckily it was a good time to play because I won the next four in a row. It could have happened that it might have stopped playing my game right then and I would have to switch to another wheel. But it all worked out,
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 7th, 2024 at 1:03:35 PM
permalink
I started posting about the possibility of living in a simulation and now something strange has happened. Working on my one unit a day method which I had abandoned for a while because there was so many days where I just didn't see any bets. All of a sudden just since yesterday I noticed a way of betting to make one unit that was right in front of me and I never noticed it before. Something that occurs so often there will never be days where I don't see any bets. I don't know what to think of this, I start talking about the simulation theory and something happens thatnlooks like I'm living in a simulation.
Many people believe that if you just work toward what you want that it will appear or you will achieve it. This is nothing new, I remember reading a book around 1970 that was written in the 1930s during the Depression and I think it was called something like the Little Red Book, or something like that. It was a very thin book not more than 30 pages and it was saying exactly that, if you write down what you want and keep it in your mind and pursue it you can change your reality to make it happen. This is almost exactly how a simulation would work. It's no accident that since we discovered science and the scientific method a few hundred years ago that we've been advancing technologically at an unbelievable rate. We can now measure advances in things like medicine and computer science in increments of months instead of years. Just like we were living in a simulation.
Anyway I'm kind of stunned about this, because this was right in front of me the whole time. This method of finding a bet that works everyday to make one unit. Maybe it's just confirmation bias, how is there any way of knowing. Now the pig-piling on will begin, or totally ignoring me will start. Either way it doesn't change anything.
Many people believe that if you just work toward what you want that it will appear or you will achieve it. This is nothing new, I remember reading a book around 1970 that was written in the 1930s during the Depression and I think it was called something like the Little Red Book, or something like that. It was a very thin book not more than 30 pages and it was saying exactly that, if you write down what you want and keep it in your mind and pursue it you can change your reality to make it happen. This is almost exactly how a simulation would work. It's no accident that since we discovered science and the scientific method a few hundred years ago that we've been advancing technologically at an unbelievable rate. We can now measure advances in things like medicine and computer science in increments of months instead of years. Just like we were living in a simulation.
Anyway I'm kind of stunned about this, because this was right in front of me the whole time. This method of finding a bet that works everyday to make one unit. Maybe it's just confirmation bias, how is there any way of knowing. Now the pig-piling on will begin, or totally ignoring me will start. Either way it doesn't change anything.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 7th, 2024 at 4:48:08 PM
permalink
I've been testing the last two days with virtual bets and in 100 bets I got 86 right and 14 wrong. Of course this does not include zeros because when you're testing betting virtually you never include the zeros because it's pointless. The zeros are a fixed event, you know exactly how many there are going to be in 1,000 bets or 5000 bets. So it's easy to figure them into the calculation. It's amazing how many people over the years don't understand this and absolutely berserk when they find out I don't count the zeros. It's because in 100 bets I could have no zeros at all or I could have five or six so that renders them meaningless if I'm calculating for my hit rate. Zeros only count in the long run when you're calculating averages. If these numbers hold true this is actually a better bet than the 80% bet I was making and it's a lot more frequent. What a coincidence this happened at the same time I started looking seriously at living in a simulation. But I don't believe in coincidences and I never have.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 7th, 2024 at 7:04:16 PM
permalink
Quote: EvenBobI've been testing the last two days with virtual bets and in 100 bets I got 86 right and 14 wrong. Of course this does not include zeros because when you're testing betting virtually you never include the zeros because it's pointless. The zeros are a fixed event, you know exactly how many there are going to be in 1,000 bets or 5000 bets. So it's easy to figure them into the calculation. It's amazing how many people over the years don't understand this and absolutely berserk when they find out I don't count the zeros. It's because in 100 bets I could have no zeros at all or I could have five or six so that renders them meaningless if I'm calculating for my hit rate. Zeros only count in the long run when you're calculating averages. If these numbers hold true this is actually a better bet than the 80% bet I was making and it's a lot more frequent. What a coincidence this happened at the same time I started looking seriously at living in a simulation. But I don't believe in coincidences and I never have.
link to original post
How do you determine 86 wins vs 14 losses without factoring 0s? If you don't bet 0s wouldn't this just unfairly decrease loss rate?
"It's because in 100 bets I could have no zeros at all or I could have five or six so that renders them meaningless if I'm calculating for my hit rate. Zeros only count in the long run when you're calculating averages. "
-Isn't that why you should count them in lifetime average?
January 7th, 2024 at 8:09:00 PM
permalink
Quote: Gandler
How do you determine 86 wins vs 14 losses without factoring 0s? If you don't bet 0s wouldn't this just unfairly decrease loss rate?
link to original post
Because I don't give one fiddly flying crap what the average is for the next 100 bets. I care what the average is for the next 10,000 bets. The zeros are a rogue event, but in the long run they are a fixed amount. I know for absolute surety how many zeros I will get in 10,000 bets. But in 100 bets I could get no zeros or 10 zeros so that renders them meaningless when you're figuring out an average. Let's say I do 100 bets virtually and I get 10 zeros and then I do another 100 virtually and I get 8 zeros. If I leave the zeros in my calculation that looks like I get 18 zeros for every 200 bets which is totally not true. Let's say I bet 100 virtual times and get no zeros and bet another 100 virtual and get no zeros again. Does this mean I get no zeros ever? Of course not so what you do is at the very end you calculate for the average number of zeros that you know you will get. The number of people that cannot understand this always blows my mind. I'm not looking for a win-loss rate, I'm looking for a betting hit rate. I'm looking for how I will do in what I have control of and I have no control over the zeros so you don't count them when calculating hit rate. Zero's only count when you're betting actual money and if you have an 80% hit rate they are meaningless, they are an inconvenience, nothing more.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 19th, 2024 at 4:11:55 PM
permalink
Good news for Axel, I have completely given up on my 80% bet. It just doesn't occur enough for me to depend on it. It'll be working for 3 days in a row and then the next 3 days I can't find anything to bet on. So I've switched to something else entirely, I'm now a regular gambler in that I do not win every session. I win 9 out of 10 sessions, but I am able to bet every single day. I know I've always said I'm not a gambler, but now that I don't know that I'm going to win every session I guess that makes me one. But I can have far far more wins betting this way and that's all that counts in the end. It's a sad day, I've become very ordinary. Sigh..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 20th, 2024 at 4:41:19 PM
permalink
Quote: EvenBobGood news for Axel, I have completely given up on my 80% bet. It just doesn't occur enough for me to depend on it. It'll be working for 3 days in a row and then the next 3 days I can't find anything to bet on. So I've switched to something else entirely, I'm now a regular gambler in that I do not win every session. I win 9 out of 10 sessions, but I am able to bet every single day. I know I've always said I'm not a gambler, but now that I don't know that I'm going to win every session I guess that makes me one. But I can have far far more wins betting this way and that's all that counts in the end. It's a sad day, I've become very ordinary. Sigh..
link to original post
My goal is to win six units per session. Why 6 units. Because playing virtually for 20 minutes I average 8 to 10 wins but if I can get six wins right away I take it and quit. Why should I keep playing and keep playing just to win two or three more units. Cuz you never know what's going to happen, always better to quit when you have six locked in the bank. And quite often I'll win six in a row so it's over very quickly. I noticed the wheels at Evolution are spinning more now, they must have talked to the dealers because they're all doing it. They grab the ball and watch the clock and when there's still two or three seconds to bet they spin and the clock stops. I'm sure that pisses a lot of people off but too often they would sit there and sit there after the clock ran out and let the wheel go around two or three more times before they grab the ball. Doing it the way they're doing it now they're getting way more spins per hour which is what the casino wants. 90% of these dealers have no idea how much work dealing roulette is in a real Casino. When you have to scrutinize the board to make sure the bets are correct and then you have to do payouts and not make mistakes. All these people have to do is spin that's their entire job. I laugh to think about them trying to get a job in a real Casino and saying they have experience.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 24th, 2024 at 9:44:46 AM
permalink
Dealing with casinos online is a exercise in frustration. Last week I made three bets at one of the casinos and they didn't pay me for any of them. When I made the bets they took it out of my balance and when I won they put the same amount back into my balance but no extra money for the win. I went to check my history which up till then had showed every bed I'd ever made at that casino for the last year and a half and my history was totally gone. So I complained and they opened up a investigation. That consists of me giving them information, sending them screenshot after screenshot and of them telling me absolutely nothing from their end. Not one word about what's going on. If I ask them they just respond with more questions. I feel like I'm getting the classic runaround.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 24th, 2024 at 9:52:54 AM
permalink
I'd be taking my money out of that online casino immediately and closing my account.
I got a couple win/loss statements recently and it's obvious to me the pits can't help but intentionally misinput some numbers to give vastly inaccurate results. So I won't be using win/loss statements for anything official. Slot machines can be accurate, pits not so much.
I got a couple win/loss statements recently and it's obvious to me the pits can't help but intentionally misinput some numbers to give vastly inaccurate results. So I won't be using win/loss statements for anything official. Slot machines can be accurate, pits not so much.
January 24th, 2024 at 10:24:37 AM
permalink
Quote: ChumpChangeI'd be taking my money out of that online casino immediately and closing my account.
I got a couple win/loss statements recently and it's obvious to me the pits can't help but intentionally misinput some numbers to give vastly inaccurate results. So I won't be using win/loss statements for anything official. Slot machines can be accurate, pits not so much.
link to original post
I just tried to make a bet and a little sign popped up that said bet not accepted contact management. I tried to take a screenshot of it but it disappeared almost immediately.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
