Evenbob's Roulette Thread
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I still think there should be a rule forbidding EvenBob from using the word 'Math' or the symbol '%'. For him to do so is an insult to anyone that ever used them correctly.
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There should be a rule against people treating their opinion as fact when they have no idea if it's a fact or not.
Not so If you managed to get ANYONE to believe you, it would reduce the average intelligence of humanity.Quote: EvenBobQuote: billryan
No one believes you. If you want to write fiction, you need to make it semiplausible.
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How would it change things if people believed me. It would change absolutely nothing.
Whatever floats your boat. You've found that spouting nonsense scores you some attention. The more outrageous your nonsense, the more attention it gets. You sometimes show pictures of plates of vomit home cooked food. They get less attention than this rubbish, hence the reason for the higher repeat rate on this nonsense. No attention is bad attention.Quote:And if I was writing fiction I certainly would write something more exciting than this. To me this is boredom Deluxe, all casino games are boring.
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It must suck to be EvenBob.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDear
I still think there should be a rule forbidding EvenBob from using the word 'Math' or the symbol '%'. For him to do so is an insult to anyone that ever used them correctly.
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There should be a rule against people treating their opinion as fact when they have no idea if it's a fact or not.
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His opinions are based on facts that is why he is believable and you are not.
I'm flattered that EvenBob tries to refute my assertion by mimicking it. Pity he has no idea how lame his counter point is.Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDear
I still think there should be a rule forbidding EvenBob from using the word 'Math' or the symbol '%'. For him to do so is an insult to anyone that ever used them correctly.
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There should be a rule against people treating their opinion as fact when they have no idea if it's a fact or not.
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It's not a word that EvenBob uses. But it's a concept he sometimes tries to apply.... and fails. It usually goes something like.....
Assertion: Conclusion
Where the conclusion is wrong and unrelated to the assertion.
E.g.
Assertion = "80% sounds really great and it is good but it's not Bulletproof. You can get a zero at any time and there's always the 20% that you're going to get wrong. "
Unrelated and incorrect conclusion= "Best thing to do is set an extremely modest goal, do it and leave."
Hmmmm. No EvenBob. . Best thing to do is take expert advice on Kelly betting, a proven bit of Math.
or maybe...
Assertion = "There is an easy surefire way to prove that I can't do it and that is to try it yourself."
Unrelated and incorrect conclusion = "Nobody here is willing to do that because they can't afford to have it work because that would evaporate their position of professional naysayer."
Hmmmm. No EvenBob. Everything about the original assertion is wrong to begin with. There is no surefire way to prove that you can't do it. Trying it for oneself is impossible, because 'It' is not defined and finally, NOBODY here is willing to do it, because it's such a stupid time and money wasting exercise to even try to do.
Quote: OnceDear
It must suck to be EvenBob.
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Another post of blah blah blah that says absolutely nothing. If you want to prove I'm wrong go ahead and try doing what I do you will see that I am correct. But you won't do that will you because you're absolutely terrified down to your toes that it works and that would shoot you down and we can't have that. Instead of throwing your opinion around like it's factual evidence try something productive for a change.
Quote: rainman
His opinions are based on facts that is why he is believable and you are not.
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His opinions are based on speculation they're never based on facts. He is yet for to produce one fact.
You can do and say whatever stupid things you say that you claim to do. I'm not stupid enough to try to emulate you, to prove the stupidity of it.Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDear
It must suck to be EvenBob.
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Another post of blah blah blah that says absolutely nothing. If you want to prove I'm wrong go ahead and try doing what I do you will see that I am correct. But you won't do that will you because you're absolutely terrified down to your toes that it works and that would shoot you down and we can't have that. Instead of throwing your opinion around like it's factual evidence try something productive for a change.
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Productive. Why go for productive? You never did.
Quote: OnceDearNOBODY here is willing to do it,
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Of course not, it would cost you too much. It's the easiest possible thing to do to prove me wrong and you won't do it because you have too much to lose. I'm so glad I unblocked you if this is the kind of blah blah blah you've been posting the whole time. Good grief the amount of energy you put into making your posts and there's no substance to any of them.
EvenBob challenging the lack of content in my posts.!Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDearNOBODY here is willing to do it,
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Of course not, it would cost you too much. It's the easiest possible thing to do to prove me wrong and you won't do it because you have too much to lose. I'm so glad I unblocked you if this is the kind of blah blah blah you've been posting the whole time. Good grief the amount of energy you put into making your posts and there's no substance to any of them.
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I defy EvenBob to show any VALUE in the full back catalog of his.
Never mind the quality: Feel the width.
Nighty Night EB. Sweet dreams.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: rainman
His opinions are based on facts that is why he is believable and you are not.
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His opinions are based on speculation they're never based on facts. He is yet for to produce one fact.
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I will give you some facts,
The Brit consistently destroys you using logic & facts based in mathematics.
He makes you look like a Clown over and over again.
People believe him he has credibility you don't people think your a Clown.
His intellect is higher than yours and mine combined.
There's some facts for ya let me know if you want more I have many.
Quote: rainmanQuote: EvenBobQuote: rainman
His opinions are based on facts that is why he is believable and you are not.
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His opinions are based on speculation they're never based on facts. He is yet for to produce one fact.
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I will give you some facts,
The Brit consistently destroys you using logic & facts based in mathematics.
He makes you look like a Clown over and over again.
People believe him he has credibility you don't people think your a Clown.
His intellect is higher than yours and mine combined.
There's some facts for ya let me know if you want more I have many.
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Thanks for the endorsement, Rainman. I try.
It's not really possible to destroy EvenBob ( or his nonsense posts ) with logic or mathematics. Logic and Mathematics inhabit the real universe. They can barely approach the fantasy universe where EvenBob's reality applies.
I don't think I make EvenBob look like a clown. I think EvenBob does that by himself. I just try to hold up the spotlight and give him the attention he deserves. Sometimes I wonder if darkness would be better. EvenBob gets the attention he craves, with or without my input.
My intellect is barely above or even near the average among participants in this thread. If post count is applied as a weighting, EB drives that average. And not in a good way.
EB is very skilled at what he does. It's nothing to do with Roulette, though.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: lilredrooster
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There is an easy surefire way to prove that I can't do it and that is to try it yourself. This is been shown over and over again on other gambling forums where people were doubtful until they actually tried doing it and they got the big surprise. It works. But nobody here is willing to do that because they can't afford to have it work because that would evaporate their position of professional naysayer.
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Someone else trying it themselves demonstrates exactly nothing about your play.
If their play style exactly mimics yours, presumably because you have thoroughly trained them, then... maybe.
I'm not above voodoo if it works. If carving 38 notches in an onion ring and placing a flaming shot of Old Grand Dad in the middle is gonna make us some money, let's do it. I'd just like to see a demonstration first.
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Someone else trying it themselves demonstrates exactly nothing about your play.
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But it does show that it is possible to gain an advantage. And that's all that's needed here.
Blabbermouth! I don't know how you discovered the secret to EB's method, but you are bang out of order revealing it like that!Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: lilredrooster
it boggles the mind that there are people who believe nonsensical claims on a gambling forum with absolutely no evidence or prooflink to original post
There is an easy surefire way to prove that I can't do it and that is to try it yourself.
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Someone else trying it themselves demonstrates exactly nothing about your play.
If their play style exactly mimics yours, presumably because you have thoroughly trained them, then... maybe.
I'm not above voodoo if it works. If carving 38 notches in an onion ring and placing a flaming shot of Old Grand Dad in the middle is gonna make us some money, let's do it. I'd just like to see a demonstration first.
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Remind me again?
What is the great 'It' that we can try for ourselves if only we are prepared to give it a shot? I don't believe EB ever revealed that. He sure as hell never demonstrated 'it'.
Just think. According to Actuarial Tables, EB needs to train up his apprentice before he takes his secret method to the grave, on average in the next 11 years. What a waste ( being his apprentice would be ) What a waste (that EB wants to take his secret to the grave. ) I call it selfish.
Card counting in blackjack is a prime example of placing non-random bets on random outcomes. Card counting is a strategic method employed by skilled blackjack players to gain an advantage over the casino." Chat GPT
"It is possible to place non-random bets on random outcomes by using strategies such as card counting in blackjack. Card counting is a technique used to keep track of the cards dealt in a game of blackjack. By doing so, players can determine the probability of certain cards being dealt and adjust their bets accordingly " Bing AI
"Yes, card counting in blackjack is making non-random bets against random outcomes." Bard AI
I could find many others that all say the same thing that betting non randomly against random outcomes can give you an advantage if you have a good strategy. Coming up with a good strategy is the thing, and that takes a lot of work and a lot of trial and error. But it's entirely possible, I should know because I've done it.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: Dieter
Someone else trying it themselves demonstrates exactly nothing about your play.
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But it does show that it is possible to gain an advantage. And that's all that's needed here.
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If they're not aware of the subtle signals encoded within the previous results and know how to use them, no advantage will be demonstrated.
This seems the most likely outcome, without some advanced training.
Do you publish a newsletter discussing these techniques?
How may I subscribe?
How?Quote: EvenBobQuote: Dieter
Someone else trying it themselves demonstrates exactly nothing about your play.
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But it does show that it is possible to gain an advantage. And that's all that's needed here.
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How the hell can you even conclude that.
What is 'It'
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If they're not aware of the subtle signals encoded within the previous results and know how to use them,
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I'm not talking about changing the world here. I'm talking about getting a foot in the door just to show that it leads to something. I didn't start off doing this knowing everything about it, I started knowing nothing at all. I stumbled on it by accident and was doing more winning than losing right off the bat. The fine tuning came much much later.
Quote: OnceDearHow?
How the hell can you even conclude that.
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Because I did it when I was wasn't even trying, I did it by accident. I stumbled on it because I was bored and I was so naive I thought at the time this must be how the experts beat roulette. So I looked into it and the rest is history. It wasn't till almost 2 years later that I joined a gambling forum and was told that I couldn't be doing what I was already doing and that still goes on to this day. Obviously.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: Dieter
If they're not aware of the subtle signals encoded within the previous results and know how to use them,
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I'm not talking about changing the world here. I'm talking about getting a foot in the door just to show that it leads to something. I didn't start off doing this knowing everything about it, I started knowing nothing at all. I stumbled on it by accident and was doing more winning than losing right off the bat. The fine tuning came much much later.
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You're talking nonsense. Gibberish..bullfeces, whatever you wish to call it.
Quote: EvenBob"..." Chat GPT
"... " Bing AI
"..." Bard AI
I could find many others that all say the same thing that betting non randomly against random outcomes can give you an advantage if you have a good strategy. Coming up with a good strategy is the thing, and that takes a lot of work and a lot of trial and error. But it's entirely possible, I should know because I've done it.
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Getting artificial stupidity to mimic your ignorance is not going to fool anyone. Those AI bots have no idea what they are talking about!
Hey. ChatGPT is good. I must consult her more often...
Quote: ChatGPTIf someone claimed to have an 80% success rate making even-money wagers at roulette, it would be highly suspicious and likely indicative of a misunderstanding or misinformation. Roulette is a game of chance, and the outcome of each spin is supposed to be random. In a fair and properly functioning roulette wheel, no strategy or skill can influence the outcome with such a high success rate.
Quote: ChatGPTIn summary, an 80% success rate in even-money wagers at roulette is highly improbable and likely indicative of a misunderstanding, exaggeration, or a dubious claim. It's essential to approach such statements with skepticism and critically evaluate the evidence and reasoning behind the claim.
So there ya have it.
" It's essential to approach such statements with skepticism and critically evaluate the evidence and reasoning behind the claim"
We've approached with skepticism. ✔️
We've wanted to critically evaluate the evidence and reasoning.... Of which there is none.
Looks like the ball is in EB's court.
Let's chuck another question at Chat GPT.....
Quote: OnceDearWhy would someone claim in a gambling related forum that they had an 80% success rate making even money wagers at roulette?
Quote: ChatGPTClaims of an 80% success rate in making even-money wagers at roulette, especially on a gambling-related forum, could be driven by several motives. However, it's crucial to approach such statements with a healthy dose of skepticism due to the inherent improbability and the potential for misinformation. Here are some reasons why someone might make such a claim:
Misunderstanding or Ignorance: The person may genuinely believe they have an 80% success rate due to a misunderstanding of probability, luck, or statistical variance. They might not be fully aware of the randomness and house edge in roulette.
Self-Deception: People sometimes deceive themselves into thinking they have a winning strategy to boost their confidence or maintain a positive self-image. This self-deception can lead to overestimating the success of their gambling methods.
Promoting a System or Service: Individuals may make exaggerated claims to attract attention to a gambling system, strategy, or service they are promoting. By boasting about an 80% success rate, they aim to lure others into purchasing or following their method.
Trolling or Attention-Seeking: Some individuals may make such statements purely for attention or to stir up discussions in a forum. They may not be serious about their claim but enjoy the reactions and responses from other forum members.
Scam or Fraud: In some cases, individuals may be engaging in deceptive practices with the intention of defrauding others. They could be trying to sell a supposed winning strategy or tips, taking advantage of people's desire to win in gambling.
Gambling Addiction or Desperation: People facing financial difficulties or struggling with gambling addiction might make exaggerated claims as a way to cope with losses or seek validation. They may be desperate for a solution and may genuinely believe in the success of their approach.
Regardless of the motive, it's important for forum members and readers to approach such claims critically and not take them at face value. Rigorous evidence, transparency about the method used, and a healthy dose of skepticism are crucial when evaluating statements about high success rates in gambling, especially in games where chance plays a significant role like roulette.
I [expletive ending in 'ing'] love ChatGPT
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Why would someone claim in a gambling related forum that they had an 80% success rate making even money wagers at roulette
Quote: ChatGPT Bolding mine
Claims of an 80% success rate in making even-money wagers at roulette on a gambling-related forum could stem from various motivations, and it's important to approach such statements with a critical mindset. Here are some potential reasons why someone might make such a claim:
Self-Validation and Ego: Some individuals may make such claims to boost their own self-esteem or validate their intelligence and skills. Claiming a high success rate can make them feel superior to others in the forum.
Attention-Seeking: Making bold claims can attract attention, especially in online forums where users may be seeking advice, strategies, or insights. Individuals who want to stand out or be the center of discussion might make exaggerated statements.
Promotion of a System or Service: Individuals may have a financial incentive behind their claims. They could be promoting a system, strategy, or service related to roulette, hoping to attract followers or customers by presenting themselves as successful.
Trolling or Pranks: Some people enjoy creating controversy or chaos online simply for entertainment purposes. Making unrealistic claims can be a form of trolling or a prank to see how others react.
Psychological Coping: Individuals facing losses or struggling with the negative emotional impact of gambling may make such claims as a way of coping. It allows them to maintain a positive outlook despite challenges.
Gambling Addiction: People with gambling addiction may engage in self-deception and convince themselves that they have a winning strategy. Sharing such claims in a forum might be a way to seek validation or support.
Ignorance or Misunderstanding: Some individuals may genuinely believe they have a foolproof strategy due to a lack of understanding of probability, randomness, and the inherent house edge in casino games.
Unverified and Unverifiable Claims: Without any verifiable evidence or a transparent explanation of their strategy, individuals may make exaggerated claims because they believe they won't be held accountable.
It's important for forum members and readers to approach such statements critically, demand evidence or a detailed explanation of the strategy, and be aware of the many factors that can contribute to the unreliability of such claims. In the world of gambling, particularly games of chance like roulette, no strategy can guarantee an 80% success rate due to the inherent randomness involved.
Quote: Not ChatGPT ever
He makes the claim because it's true or out of a sense of altruism.
Quote: OnceDear
Getting artificial stupidity to mimic your ignorance is not going to fool anyone. Those AI bots have no idea what they are talking about!
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This is as far as I needed to read in your post because it's exactly almost word for word when I predicted you would say. I did way more than 80% on this, LOL.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDear
Getting artificial stupidity to mimic your ignorance is not going to fool anyone. Those AI bots have no idea what they are talking about!
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This is as far as I needed to read in your post because it's exactly almost word for word when I predicted you would say. I did way more than 80% on this, LOL.
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You read the whole thing.... oh wait you have him blocked my bad.
I just cant believe anything from you.
EB Doesn't predict. He makes educated guesses. And of course he read the lot. Most of it was too painful for him to acknowledge.Quote: rainmanQuote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDear
Getting artificial stupidity to mimic your ignorance is not going to fool anyone. Those AI bots have no idea what they are talking about!
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This is as far as I needed to read in your post because it's exactly almost word for word when I predicted you would say. I did way more than 80% on this, LOL.
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You read the whole thing.... oh wait you have him blocked my bad.
I just cant believe anything from you.
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Quote: OnceDearAnd of course he read the lot.
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Nope, I absolutely did not read more than your first line. I have an amazing resolve when it comes to things like that when I decide not to do something I don't do it. That post was just too long and I don't have any time for that. And here's a clue to clue you in. When somebody says they have you blocked all you have to do to see if it's true or not is to try and send them a PM. If they have you blocked you won't be able to and you obviously never did that with me or you would know that I did have you blocked. So if I ever block you again try and send me a PM and you'll find out. Look at that, you learned something new today.
He has written so much garbage he can't remember what he has written.
The fun is when he cowardly doesn't respond. I get a kick out of that, I don't
know why.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDearAnd of course he read the lot.
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Nope, I absolutely did not read more than your first line. I have an amazing resolve when it comes to things like that when I decide not to do something I don't do it. That post was just too long and I don't have any time for that. And here's a clue to clue you in. When somebody says they have you blocked all you have to do to see if it's true or not is to try and send them a PM. If they have you blocked you won't be able to and you obviously never did that with me or you would know that I did have you blocked. So if I ever block you again try and send me a PM and you'll find out. Look at that, you learned something new today.
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No one believes you.
Quote: billryanQuote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDearAnd of course he read the lot.
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Nope, I absolutely did not read more than your first line. I have an amazing resolve when it comes to things like that when I decide not to do something I don't do it. That post was just too long and I don't have any time for that. And here's a clue to clue you in. When somebody says they have you blocked all you have to do to see if it's true or not is to try and send them a PM. If they have you blocked you won't be able to and you obviously never did that with me or you would know that I did have you blocked. So if I ever block you again try and send me a PM and you'll find out. Look at that, you learned something new today.
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No one believes you.
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Easy way to test it. When somebody says they have you blocked try to send them a PM and you'll see for yourself. This is not rocket science, duh.
Blocked or not blocked.... You have, and take the option to see my posts anyway.Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDearAnd of course he read the lot.
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Nope, I absolutely did not read more than your first line. I have an amazing resolve when it comes to things like that when I decide not to do something I don't do it. That post was just too long and I don't have any time for that. And here's a clue to clue you in. When somebody says they have you blocked all you have to do to see if it's true or not is to try and send them a PM. If they have you blocked you won't be able to and you obviously never did that with me or you would know that I did have you blocked. So if I ever block you again try and send me a PM and you'll find out. Look at that, you learned something new today.
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Quote: EvenBobCard counting BJ for a few decades cured me from betting on games where I don't have an edge.
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I believe EB reasons for this stance come from the above statement found in this threads OP.
EB is a failed card counter. There is simply no other way to define someone who counts cards at BJ FOR DECADES without an edge!
EB heard about card counting and thought he could make money off it and his gambling addiction for decades couldn't stop him from trying a failed attempt to count cards.
Finally he realized (his own testimony) that card counting didn't work for him because he had no edge.
But in his mind if it didn't work for him how could it work for anyone? He came to the conclusion that ALL AP's must be lying because he himself couldn't card count properly.
And if all AP's brag about their exploits and are lying then why shouldn't he.
He is playing the game he believes all WOV card counters and multi-carders are playing on him. When I mention making thousands of dollars a week (but not every week) he believes I am lying (and let's face it some of you do too).
So EB feels justified in lying because so are all of us.
At any rate that is my theory in why EB persists. Since we are all telling falsehoods (in his mind) there is no need to even be consistent. If people want to say they successfully card count then why can't he persist that he can guess with 80% accuracy randomness or make up ridiculous terms like non-random randomness.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: Dieter
If they're not aware of the subtle signals encoded within the previous results and know how to use them,
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I'm not talking about changing the world here. I'm talking about getting a foot in the door just to show that it leads to something. I didn't start off doing this knowing everything about it, I started knowing nothing at all. I stumbled on it by accident and was doing more winning than losing right off the bat. The fine tuning came much much later.
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You're assuming that other people can stumble into success without your expert guidance.
I'm very not sure of that.
Quote: Dieter
You're assuming that other people can stumble into success without your expert guidance.
I'm very not sure of that.
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Believe it or not, I'm not the brightest person on the block. My absolute feeling is that if I can do it almost anybody can do it and probably do it even better. The one guy I know pretty well who does the same thing is way better than I am because he's a math person and he knows how to code and he knows how to do spreadsheets and he's way more detailed than I am. I can't do any of that stuff all I do is slug along and try to do my best. Of course he's called a crackpot too but but just like me, he couldn't care less. When you're doing something and you know you're doing it what do you care what everybody else says.
Quote: darkoz
EB is a failed card counter. There is simply no other way to define someone who counts cards at BJ FOR DECADES without an edge!
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Yeah, it's already been established that that pretty much never happened. I did count cards for a while but I didn't like it and when I posted that I was new here so I embellished my story as I've already said. I had just come here from another forum and I was trying to disguise who I was but that lasted about 10 minutes. That being said please feel free to never believe anything I say, it really doesn't matter to me either way. Because your beliefs have absolutely zero effect on me or what I do. Why would they. I'm only telling you this because Axel has not seen your post yet and believe me he will set you straight, that's his goal in life. LOL
Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
EB is a failed card counter. There is simply no other way to define someone who counts cards at BJ FOR DECADES without an edge!
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Yeah, it's already been established that that pretty much never happened. I did count cards for a while but I didn't like it and when I posted that I was new here so I embellished my story as I've already said. I had just come here from another forum and I was trying to disguise who I was but that lasted about 10 minutes. That being said please feel free to never believe anything I say, it really doesn't matter to me either way. Because your beliefs have absolutely zero effect on me or what I do. Why would they. I'm only telling you this because Axel has not seen your post yet and believe me he will set you straight, that's his goal in life. LOL
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Hey EB. I Believe you!
I believe you have a lot of cats. I dislike cats.
I believe you are about 74
I believe you cook some weird stuff which your camera does no justice to
I don't believe ANYTHING you say about wagering on roulette. Nothing. Nil. NADA
And I believe that you don't care what I believe. or who believes your nonsense. So long as someone wastes a few minutes reading about it, that makes your day.
I do know you read all of this.
Quote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
EB is a failed card counter. There is simply no other way to define someone who counts cards at BJ FOR DECADES without an edge!
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Yeah, it's already been established that that pretty much never happened. I did count cards for a while but I didn't like it and when I posted that I was new here so I embellished my story as I've already said. I had just come here from another forum and I was trying to disguise who I was but that lasted about 10 minutes. That being said please feel free to never believe anything I say, it really doesn't matter to me either way. Because your beliefs have absolutely zero effect on me or what I do. Why would they. I'm only telling you this because Axel has not seen your post yet and believe me he will set you straight, that's his goal in life. LOL
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Hey EB. I Believe you!
I believe you have a lot of cats. I dislike cats.
I believe you are about 74
I believe you cook some weird stuff which your camera does no justice to
I don't believe ANYTHING you say about wagering on roulette. Nothing. Nil. NADA
And I believe that you don't care what I believe. or who believes your nonsense. So long as someone wastes a few minutes reading about it, that makes your day.
I do know you read all of this.
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Trust but verify.
Quote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
EB is a failed card counter. There is simply no other way to define someone who counts cards at BJ FOR DECADES without an edge!
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Yeah, it's already been established that that pretty much never happened. I did count cards for a while but I didn't like it and when I posted that I was new here so I embellished my story as I've already said. I had just come here from another forum and I was trying to disguise who I was but that lasted about 10 minutes. That being said please feel free to never believe anything I say, it really doesn't matter to me either way. Because your beliefs have absolutely zero effect on me or what I do. Why would they. I'm only telling you this because Axel has not seen your post yet and believe me he will set you straight, that's his goal in life. LOL
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Hey EB. I Believe you!
I believe you have a lot of cats. I dislike cats.
I believe you are about 74
I believe you cook some weird stuff which your camera does no justice to
I don't believe ANYTHING you say about wagering on roulette. Nothing. Nil. NADA
And I believe that you don't care what I believe. or who believes your nonsense. So long as someone wastes a few minutes reading about it, that makes your day.
I do know you read all of this.
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Yes I read it because it was short. Brevity is a learned trait it's why I have so many posts because most of the time I'm brief and to the point. Back in 2006 when I first started posting on gambling forums it probably didn't matter to me what people thought but they quickly beat that out of me. I mean they beat me to death, so much so that none of that stuff effects me anymore. I'm sure my feelings were hurt when I first started posting about roulette but I got over it fairly quickly and there's literally nothing you could say that would have any effect on me because I'm the one that's in charge here. I know what's going on and all you have is opinion and speculation.
You just have to be smart enough to figure out how to maximize your value.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfAnyone with half a brain would become stupid rich with an 80 hit rate
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Because everybody knows that online casinos let you get stupid rich before they cut you off. Everybody that lives in Casino Fantasyland that is.. The truth is you would be cut off long before you got rich, and really long before you got filthy rich.
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People make and cash out 100's of thousands online.
I know Bovada was hit for over 500k by a few people using bonuses ans missporogeamed machines. You know, bonuses, the thing you claim people should never use.
Before making a bet conduct thorough research and analysis.
Bankroll Management: It's crucial to manage your bankroll. Determine how much money you can afford to risk without endangering your financial well-being. Proper bankroll management helps prevent excessive losses.
Strategy Development: Develop a strategy based on your research. In gambling, this might include card counting in blackjack.
Discipline: Stick to your strategy. Emotional decision-making can lead to impulsive and random bets. Having discipline is crucial.
Set Goals: Clearly define your goals . Setting specific goals can help you make non-random bets."
This is from Chat GPT but I could have written it myself. It agrees with me that making non-random bets against random outcomes gives you a far greater chance of success.
Quote: EvenBob"Making non-random bets in the context of gambling typically involves using a strategy or approach that is based on analysis and research, rather than making decisions purely at random. Here are some key concepts and strategies for making non-random bets:
Before making a bet conduct thorough research and analysis.
Bankroll Management: It's crucial to manage your bankroll. Determine how much money you can afford to risk without endangering your financial well-being. Proper bankroll management helps prevent excessive losses.
Strategy Development: Develop a strategy based on your research. In gambling, this might include card counting in blackjack.
Discipline: Stick to your strategy. Emotional decision-making can lead to impulsive and random bets. Having discipline is crucial.
Set Goals: Clearly define your goals . Setting specific goals can help you make non-random bets."
This is from Chat GPT but I could have written it myself. It agrees with me that making non-random bets against random outcomes gives you a far greater chance of success.
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Really please you are just embarrassing yourself.
Your argument is like asking ChatGPT to explain how aerodynamics works and then saying see, ChaptGPT says flight is possible so believe me when I say I can flap my arms and fly through the air.
Analysis and research only work when viable just like air travel only works when viable. Most people who ask me about how gambling with roulette works I just flip a quarter and tell them red/black or heads/tails and they immediately get that it's not predictable or something that's not random. Even 9 year Olds get this concept.
That a 74 year old man doesn't get it is just plain sad.
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This is from Chat GPT but I could have written it myself. It agrees with me that making non-random bets against random outcomes gives you a far greater chance of success.
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Here again, EvenBob pairs an assertion with a completely incorrect conclusion. He quotes ChatGPT and then completely mis-represents what it said.
PROOF:-
Quote: OnceDear to ChatGPTdoes making non-random bets at roulette give me a far greater chance of success.
Quote: ChatGPT Bolding is MineNo, making non-random bets at roulette does not give you a greater chance of success. Roulette is a game of chance, and each spin of the wheel is independent of the previous ones. The outcome is determined by a random process, and the house always has an edge.
And again, being more specific...
Quote: OnceDear to ChatGPT
does making non-random bets against random outcomes give me a far greater chance of success.
Quote: ChatGPT Bolding is Mine
No, making non-random bets against random outcomes does not inherently give you a far greater chance of success. In games of chance, like roulette, where outcomes are determined by random processes, there is no strategy or pattern of betting that can alter the fundamental randomness of the game.
Each spin of the roulette wheel is independent of previous spins, and the outcome is not influenced by past results. Whether you make random or non-random bets, the odds of winning or losing on each spin remain the same.
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Really please you are just embarrassing yourself.
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That a 74 year old man doesn't get it is just plain sad.
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It's an embarrassment to the forum that its most frequent poster posts such utter tripe and goes unchallenged by the management.
Fortunately, the very same ChatGPT that he mis-attributes here is quite able to argue back at him and stick up for itself.
EvenBob 0: ChatGPT 1.
Is EvenBob 75 yet?
Quote: EvenBobThe doctor who discovered that washing his hands in between operations saved patients lives was not believed either. In fact they thought he was so full of it they locked him up in an asylum. So guess how I feel about you believing me or not.
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You realize that in this scenario YOU would be one of the ones thinking the doctor is crazy, right? YOU are the one refusing to believe the math and science and statistics, just like everyone else who made fun of the doctor washing his hands. Sad.
Quote: EvenBobThe doctor who discovered that washing his hands in between operations saved patients lives was not believed either. In fact they thought he was so full of it they locked him up in an asylum. So guess how I feel about you believing me or not.
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EvenBob quite likes to misinterpret this anecdote. Maybe he's read up on it. Here's a reminder, C/O Wikepedia
Quote: Wikepediahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis
"In mid-1865, [ Semmelweis's] public behaviour became exasperating and embarrassing to his associates. He also began to drink immoderately; he spent progressively more time away from his family, sometimes in the company of a prostitute; and his wife noticed changes in his sexual behavior. On 13 July 1865, the Semmelweis family visited friends, and during the visit, Semmelweis's behavior seemed particularly inappropriate.[59]
Semmelweis's alleged affliction has been a subject of some debate. According to K. Codell Carter, in his biography of Semmelweis, its exact nature cannot be determined:
It is impossible to appraise the nature of Semmelweis's disorder. ... It might have been Alzheimer's disease, a type of dementia, which is associated with rapid cognitive decline and mood changes.[60] It might have been third-stage syphilis, a then-common disease of obstetricians who examined thousands of women at gratis institutions, or it might have been emotional exhaustion from overwork and stress.[61]
In 1865, János Balassa [ Semmelweis's Colleague and House Doctor] wrote a document referring Semmelweis to a mental institution.
So.....
A) The Doctor that introduced Chlorinated HandWashing was called Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis.
B) The practice he introduced was accompanied by ample supportive evidence.
C) The science behind infection was not well understood by his contemporaries, nor even by himself.
C) The Naysayers might have outnumbered him, but he had much international support.
D) He was committed to a mental institution, because of aberrant behaviour and not for his scientific contribution.
E) EvenBob is drawing a parallel between himself and a fellow committed to a lunatic asylum, possibly with dementia or syphilis
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Here again, EvenBob pairs an assertion with a completely incorrect conclusion.
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You have to understand how these AI things work. If you specifically ask it about roulette it will always give you a negative response because nobody has programmed it with any method that can beat roulette. It does not think for itself it only parrots what's been fed into it. You get a much better response asking about non random bets because then you can see the possibility of beating roulette. You will notice that in my posts about AI I never mentioned roulette, it's you that has thrown that into the mix. You think it proves something and it doesn't. I'm obviously treading in territory that AI has no experience with so how could it have an opinion specifically about roulette other than what it's already been told.
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In 1865, János Balassa [ Semmelweis's Colleague and House Doctor] wrote a document referring Semmelweis to a mental institution.
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"Semmelweis with his undiplomatic behavior made more professional enemies than friends in Vienna and had to leave for Budapest to work in a city hospital for the rest of his life. Semmelweis published a book “Etiology, the concept, and the prevention of puerperal fever” in 1860, after 13 years of his study. The book had an unwelcome response; it was criticized for poor language and unprofessional writing style. Semmelweis could not tolerate the criticism and suffered with bouts of depression, rage, paranoia, and forgetfulness. He ended up in a mental asylum and died in 1865"
Obviously the original anecdote I read misrepresented why he was locked up. But it still stands that he was totally rejected by the vast majority of doctors and was given such a hard time he actually had to leave the hospital where he worked. The story still applies to what I do, he discovered something that nobody else believed and it took them 20 years until Louie Pasteur came along that it was accepted worldwide.
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Analysis and research only work when viable
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The problem is with the random numbers in roulette you don't know what's viable and what isn't. Fortunately I do.
