rxwine
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November 12th, 2022 at 6:07:43 AM permalink
Yes, why impossible odds have trouble happening in a casino.

Suppose someone is playing a slot machine, which rarely hits the top jackpot,
They hit it once. They receive their hand pay.
They immediately hit it again.
They immediately hit it a third time.
They immediately hit it a fourth time.

Next day it makes the local news. yada yada yada.

But wait.

What would really happen? Would the casino shut down the machine after the third consecutive win?

It doesn't happen, because it can't happen without the casino getting suspicious. Thus those "impossible" records never get recorded if they get noticed by the casino.

Conclustion: The only time impossible odds happen is when the casino fails to notice something, but a few players do and tell the tale.

(rip Alan Mendelson and his 18yos)
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November 12th, 2022 at 6:16:49 AM permalink
In honor of AM, let's post 18yos.
I'll start it.

Yo.
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November 12th, 2022 at 6:48:20 AM permalink
2) Yo
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November 12th, 2022 at 7:13:51 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

In honor of AM, let's post 18yos.
I'll start it.

Yo.
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That's not a statement in honor of anything...it's mocking the dead. Pretty lame.
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November 12th, 2022 at 7:34:46 AM permalink
Quote: UP84

Quote: billryan

In honor of AM, let's post 18yos.
I'll start it.

Yo.
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That's not a statement in honor of anything...it's mocking the dead. Pretty lame.
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Not at all. It's something he believed in. It takes a particular person to try and ruin a tribute.
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November 12th, 2022 at 9:30:27 AM permalink
First time shooter hit the PL 11 times in a row before a 7-out for me on the Bubble Craps the other night. That's the flip side of getting 11 point 7-outs in a row over 11 shooters. Obviously there were other rolls in-between but they didn't matter to the PL bettor, me.
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November 16th, 2022 at 2:34:34 AM permalink
The other day I was playing roulette. I played about 100 spins. I just play the even money bets. I lost 15 in a row. Not once though but twice. 2 separate streaks in 100 spins. If my math is correct itís 15181:1 to lose 15 in a row. 2 of those in 100 spins? Donít bother calculating it. Itís just not your day.
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November 16th, 2022 at 7:04:36 AM permalink
saw a lady hit a $4k royal.
5 min later, she hits it again on the same machine.
(Edit: 5 min after she gets paid)

was sitting next to a husband whose wife is sending him a pic about her handpay.
then another
then another.
might have gotten a 4th one.
all in like 30min on the same machine and i think the bet size was $3/spin.

casino shut down the machine after the last one
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November 16th, 2022 at 7:35:45 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

saw a lady hit a $4k royal.
5 min later, she hits it again on the same machine.

was sitting next to a husband whose wife is sending him a pic about her handpay.
then another
then another.
might have gotten a 4th one.
all in like 30min on the same machine and i think the bet size was $3/spin.

casino shut down the machine after the last one
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Any idea where this happened? Any casino that can make four hand pays in thirty minutes is pretty efficient and deserves recognition.
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November 16th, 2022 at 7:56:59 AM permalink
Quote: Sandybestdog

The other day I was playing roulette. I played about 100 spins. I just play the even money bets. I lost 15 in a row. Not once though but twice. 2 separate streaks in 100 spins. If my math is correct itís 15181:1 to lose 15 in a row. 2 of those in 100 spins? Donít bother calculating it. Itís just not your day.
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There are some here who would have told you to ride the streaks.
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November 16th, 2022 at 8:28:26 AM permalink
Quote: AitchTheLetter

Quote: Sandybestdog

The other day I was playing roulette. I played about 100 spins. I just play the even money bets. I lost 15 in a row. Not once though but twice. 2 separate streaks in 100 spins. If my math is correct itís 15181:1 to lose 15 in a row. 2 of those in 100 spins? Donít bother calculating it. Itís just not your day.
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There are some here who would have told you to ride the streaks.
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In which case, he would have had two winning streaks of 15 in 100 hands and people wouldn't take him seriously.
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November 16th, 2022 at 8:35:17 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Quote: AitchTheLetter

Quote: Sandybestdog

The other day I was playing roulette. I played about 100 spins. I just play the even money bets. I lost 15 in a row. Not once though but twice. 2 separate streaks in 100 spins. If my math is correct itís 15181:1 to lose 15 in a row. 2 of those in 100 spins? Donít bother calculating it. Itís just not your day.
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There are some here who would have told you to ride the streaks.
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In which case, he would have had two winning streaks of 15 in 100 hands and people wouldn't take him seriously.
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Only if there were no zeroes. I guess we should ignore the zeroesÖ.
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November 16th, 2022 at 9:04:46 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: billryan

Quote: AitchTheLetter

Quote: Sandybestdog

The other day I was playing roulette. I played about 100 spins. I just play the even money bets. I lost 15 in a row. Not once though but twice. 2 separate streaks in 100 spins. If my math is correct itís 15181:1 to lose 15 in a row. 2 of those in 100 spins? Donít bother calculating it. Itís just not your day.
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There are some here who would have told you to ride the streaks.
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In which case, he would have had two winning streaks of 15 in 100 hands and people wouldn't take him seriously.
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Only if there were no zeroes. I guess we should ignore the zeroesÖ.
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Ever try dividing MXM by CVIII? I don't know how the Romans managed without zero.
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November 16th, 2022 at 10:02:52 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Yes, why impossible odds have trouble happening in a casino.

Suppose someone is playing a slot machine, which rarely hits the top jackpot,
They hit it once. They receive their hand pay.
They immediately hit it again.
They immediately hit it a third time.
They immediately hit it a fourth time.

Next day it makes the local news. yada yada yada.

But wait.

What would really happen? Would the casino shut down the machine after the third consecutive win?

It doesn't happen, because it can't happen without the casino getting suspicious. Thus those "impossible" records never get recorded if they get noticed by the casino.

Conclustion: The only time impossible odds happen is when the casino fails to notice something, but a few players do and tell the tale.

(rip Alan Mendelson and his 18yos)
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I would probably depend on how rare and how big the jackpot is.

If it's a big jackpot they should do an investigation after the 2nd hit.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 16th, 2022 at 11:40:16 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Quote: AitchTheLetter

Quote: Sandybestdog

The other day I was playing roulette. I played about 100 spins. I just play the even money bets. I lost 15 in a row. Not once though but twice. 2 separate streaks in 100 spins. If my math is correct itís 15181:1 to lose 15 in a row. 2 of those in 100 spins? Donít bother calculating it. Itís just not your day.
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There are some here who would have told you to ride the streaks.
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In which case, he would have had two winning streaks of 15 in 100 hands and people wouldn't take him seriously.
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Well you got me. I actually did take a picture. I was mistaken. It was 15 and then 12. So only 15181 and 2213 occurrences. You can see the end of the numbers in the one picture at the beginning of the other. So actually it was only in about 40 spins. Technically though you have to divide your chances by 3 since I was looking at all 3 of the even money bets. I was thinking of starting a thread with all these pictures I have. I have played this game a fair bit over the last couple of months. I have dozens of pictures. The amount of streaks that while by themselves can certainly occur, the amount of times itís happened is simply nearly impossible to happen in the amount of time Iíve played it.
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November 16th, 2022 at 12:03:34 PM permalink
I have no reason not to believe you, but I don't want to end up with an earful of cider either.
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November 16th, 2022 at 1:02:40 PM permalink
It's definitely the machine's fault.

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November 16th, 2022 at 1:41:15 PM permalink
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Quote: 100xOdds

saw a lady hit a $4k royal.
5 min later, she hits it again on the same machine.

was sitting next to a husband whose wife is sending him a pic about her handpay.
then another
then another.
might have gotten a 4th one.
all in like 30min on the same machine and i think the bet size was $3/spin.

casino shut down the machine after the last one
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Any idea where this happened? Any casino that can make four hand pays in thirty minutes is pretty efficient and deserves recognition.
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Unfortunately not.
this was years ago.

yeah, 7.5min for a handpay is pretty good.
so more probable that it was only 3 for 10min per handpay
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