Masks are back

Quote: billryan

Can't speak for the second one, but the first one seems about right. I think you might be missing the point, though. Of the vaccinated people in the outbreak, I don't think there were any deaths and few hospitalized. 97% percent of hospitalizations and deaths are unvaccinated. Vaccinated people can still get this highly contagious variant but almost none of them will have a bad outcome.

And this is really the issue. If the vaccinated aren’t dying nor entering the hospital, then we are talking about a flu. Bed rest for a couple of days and they are back to their normal selves. We didn’t have mass restrictions based on flu’s. The issue is entirely about the unvaccinated and their death and hospitalization rates.

At this point…we effectively have a system set up where responsible people have taken on responsibility for the irresponsible. Try telling them to do that willingly in their jobs.

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WMOT!!!

Keep up! It's WMOAT.
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"Defeating the $25 Table Minimum": Page 15

I will accept the Mr. W's apology and the Administrators owe me 3 days. You must act with consistency.

tuttigym

Ah! The pot roast suspension...... Well, yes, there might be 'different' standards from different moderators. Life's a bit like that. I make no apology for being more lenient on some rulings. I doubt Wizard will apologise for his interpretation. Maybe Wizard will apologise for those 3 days, but guess what. IMHO, nobody on this forum owes you anything. You are a non-paying guest here and you can be ejected for any duration for no reason whatsoever. You want some rights, maybe the forum could sell you premium membership.... Or not.

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You must act with consistency.

If you mean 'you' singular, then I TRY to be consistent as a courtesy. If you mean 'you' plural, then I can see what you mean, but guess what. There is no 'MUST' about it. If you don't like the way the forum is run, then there are plenty of others.

Quote: OnceDear

Keep up! It's WMOAT.
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(WMOAT): Define please. Did you check out my answer?

tuttigym

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(WMOAT): Define please.

Worst Moderator of All Time. Only an honorary title $:o)

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Did you check out my answer?

Yes
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/36237-masks-are-back/6/#post816355

Quote: OnceDear

Only an honorary title $:o)

Where did you get that silly idea?

Quote: OnceDear

Ah! The pot roast suspension...... Well, yes, there might be 'different' standards from different moderators. Life's a bit like that. I make no apology for being more lenient on some rulings. I doubt Wizard will apologise for his interpretation. Maybe Wizard will apologise for those 3 days, but guess what. IMHO, nobody on this forum owes you anything. You are a non-paying guest here and you can be ejected for any duration for no reason whatsoever. You want some rights, maybe the forum could sell you premium membership.... Or not.


If you mean 'you' singular, then I TRY to be consistent as a courtesy. If you mean 'you' plural, then I can see what you mean, but guess what. There is no 'MUST' about it. If you don't like the way the forum is run, then there are plenty of others.

Good to know what you are all about.

tuttigym

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Good to know what you are all about.

tuttigym

I'm an open book.

Quote: tuttigym

Perhaps you could link the actual "article" so that it might be vetted. Is it possible that some internet "articles" are misinformation? The CDC info has recently stated that over164M people have been vaccinated and only 6,000+ of those have been documented to have been infected.

tuttigym

You are a latecomer to this debate. There is a lot of history -read the thread and you will see who you are talking to. My wife and I are vaccinated and I have been strongly pro-vaccination.

a) I asked the forum about their opinions of the authenticity of what I had read.

b) Currently, 96% of all covid deaths are unvaccinated people. This means that about 4% of deaths are vaccinated people Vaccinated people are indeed dying, but in much lower numbers, about 24:1 assuming a nation-wide 50% vaccination rate.

c) If the effectiveness of vaccinations is declining from 95% to 84% after six months, a scientific mind should be asking " How much further will the effectiveness decline (if at all) after 9 months? After 1 year? After 2 tears?"

Quote: gordonm888

You are a latecomer to this debate. There is a lot of history -read the thread and you will see who you are talking to. My wife and I are vaccinated and I have been strongly pro-vaccination.

a) I asked the forum about their opinions of the authenticity of what I had read.

b) Currently, 96% of all covid deaths are unvaccinated people. This means that about 4% of deaths are vaccinated people Vaccinated people are indeed dying, but in much lower numbers, about 24:1 assuming a nation-wide 50% vaccination rate.

c) If the effectiveness of vaccinations is declining from 95% to 84% after six months, a scientific mind should be asking " How much further will the effectiveness decline (if at all) after 9 months? After 1 year? After 2 tears?"

As far as C goes, I'd imagine since we are in new territory that the exact answer isn't known yet. This vaccine was rushed into use and I'm sure it will be finetuned as developments happen. It's quite possible we made need annual booster shots. It's possible that one companies vaccine will prove less effective than another ones and in five years there will only be one that is still being marketed. In Arizona, as of a week or two ago, the people who had died of covid after being vaccinated were almost all over the age of 75.