Celebrity Sightings at Casinos
June 28th, 2021 at 7:44:09 AM
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Wizard approved thread.
The Vegas Knights (they seem to have some sort of affiliation with the Wynn) were gambling at the Wynn this weekend. A dealer told me McNabb took 2000 to 60000 at B.J. but later dumped it all, but lent 2000 to a teammate before he did, so I suppose he was covered. Fleury was there too - he looks a lot younger in person. I understand all of them were drinking heavily and very loud. Unbeknownst to either team, the Montreal Canadiens were in the back area at a private table gambling at the same time.
I actually haven't played at the Wynn/Encore in a while, I just wander through all of the casinos where I am known occasionally and talk to the pit bosses and dealers about what has been going on lately.
As noted in my RESORTS WORLD VIP OPENING JUNE 24, 2021 thread, Paris and Kathy Hilton, and Usher, among others were at Resorts World last week.
Also at Wynn/Encore a couple weeks ago were Ben Affleck, and Tyga. I saw both of them at the casino, Affleck was filming some kind of commercial, Tyga, playing Baccarat, coincidentally both times when I was walking through doing Victory Strolls after beating the h. out of other casinos on the Strip. From what I was told Affleck did play B.J. at Wynn but was merely pressing his bets here and there, not jumping them enough to draw any concern.
Lately, Wynn seems to be the number one casino where celebrities are drawn, but I was talking to a dealer at a different casino (another major) on the Strip recently who said that Leonardo di Caprio and other A-List actors used to come to Vegas with some guy who was dumping big money at the tables, sketchy looking fellow who had PIMP tattooed (badly and unevenly) on his knuckles, until the guy went to prison for something or other related to a ponzi sort of scam. In general Vegas doesn't ask questions about where the money comes from.
This is one of the hallmarks of Vegas hospitality. The only bedrock rule is Don’t Burn the Locals. Beyond that, nobody cares. They would rather not know. If Charlie Manson checked into the Sahara tomorrow morning, nobody would hassle him as long as he tipped big.
Of course, there are notable exceptions.
DAY OF REMEMBRANCE
What was, by any measure, the worst financial scandal of the legal-casino era was ignited by a most unlikely source: Brian Molony, a milquetoast Toronto bank employee who earned $10,000 a year.
Molony embezzled more than $10 million, all of which he lost in casinos, primarily at what was then called Caesars Boardwalk Regency Hotel Casino (now Caesars Atlantic City).
Because executives at Caesars never questioned the source of Molony's cash, when the scheme was exposed, the casino was shut down by the state for 24 hours on Nov. 30, 1985. According to a contemporaneous New York Times article, the casino was punished for "violating credit, deposit and reporting regulations."
Caesars employees at the time mocked the date as "Brian Molony Day."
The Vegas Knights (they seem to have some sort of affiliation with the Wynn) were gambling at the Wynn this weekend. A dealer told me McNabb took 2000 to 60000 at B.J. but later dumped it all, but lent 2000 to a teammate before he did, so I suppose he was covered. Fleury was there too - he looks a lot younger in person. I understand all of them were drinking heavily and very loud. Unbeknownst to either team, the Montreal Canadiens were in the back area at a private table gambling at the same time.
I actually haven't played at the Wynn/Encore in a while, I just wander through all of the casinos where I am known occasionally and talk to the pit bosses and dealers about what has been going on lately.
As noted in my RESORTS WORLD VIP OPENING JUNE 24, 2021 thread, Paris and Kathy Hilton, and Usher, among others were at Resorts World last week.
Also at Wynn/Encore a couple weeks ago were Ben Affleck, and Tyga. I saw both of them at the casino, Affleck was filming some kind of commercial, Tyga, playing Baccarat, coincidentally both times when I was walking through doing Victory Strolls after beating the h. out of other casinos on the Strip. From what I was told Affleck did play B.J. at Wynn but was merely pressing his bets here and there, not jumping them enough to draw any concern.
Lately, Wynn seems to be the number one casino where celebrities are drawn, but I was talking to a dealer at a different casino (another major) on the Strip recently who said that Leonardo di Caprio and other A-List actors used to come to Vegas with some guy who was dumping big money at the tables, sketchy looking fellow who had PIMP tattooed (badly and unevenly) on his knuckles, until the guy went to prison for something or other related to a ponzi sort of scam. In general Vegas doesn't ask questions about where the money comes from.
This is one of the hallmarks of Vegas hospitality. The only bedrock rule is Don’t Burn the Locals. Beyond that, nobody cares. They would rather not know. If Charlie Manson checked into the Sahara tomorrow morning, nobody would hassle him as long as he tipped big.
Of course, there are notable exceptions.
DAY OF REMEMBRANCE
What was, by any measure, the worst financial scandal of the legal-casino era was ignited by a most unlikely source: Brian Molony, a milquetoast Toronto bank employee who earned $10,000 a year.
Molony embezzled more than $10 million, all of which he lost in casinos, primarily at what was then called Caesars Boardwalk Regency Hotel Casino (now Caesars Atlantic City).
Because executives at Caesars never questioned the source of Molony's cash, when the scheme was exposed, the casino was shut down by the state for 24 hours on Nov. 30, 1985. According to a contemporaneous New York Times article, the casino was punished for "violating credit, deposit and reporting regulations."
Caesars employees at the time mocked the date as "Brian Molony Day."
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
June 28th, 2021 at 7:57:34 AM
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Quote: MDawgUnbeknownst to either team, the Montreal Canadiens were in the back area at a private table gambling at the same time.
The Montreal Canadians, who beat the Golden Knights on Thursday and advanced to the Stanley Cup, flew all the way back to Vegas to gamble this weekend?
June 28th, 2021 at 8:00:04 AM
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I GUESS SO.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
June 28th, 2021 at 8:01:43 AM
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Sandra Bullock at William B’s Stardust 1997. Big fight weekend. Holyfield Tyson 2 I believe. Speed 2 was coming out the next weekend, too. Had a drink at the bar, very pleasant.
June 28th, 2021 at 8:20:23 AM
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Mdawg, as I understand the agreement that I agreed to back in April, I am allowed to respond to you in threads other than the now hidden thread, so I will do just that. :)
The problem with this post/thread as all your recent efforts is that you seem to need to elevate yourself as something special, to some celebrity status. It shows in all your posts on multiple sites, It shows in the films clips you select and post. It shows that you started a thread about VIP opening of Resorts World, when there were 2 threads already about the opening. Your VIP posts could have gone right in one of those threads. But YOU had to create a new thread trying to elevate yourself.
You are a high limit player, that gets the perks you get, high end suites, tickets to Golden Knights game, invites to the private VIP parties for casino openings, and access to VIP gambling area ONLY because you are a high limit LOSING player. THAT IS THE WAY THE CASINO INDUSTRY WORKS! PERIOD!! They do not give all that to longtime or longterm winning players.
What you are posting is not real, it is not the way the casino industry in Las Vegas works.. If you had just stuck to that you are a higher limit player that gets comped because he is losing, your 'tales' would have been better recieved and interesting even to someone like me, who does make a living off casinos but doesn't get that kind of treatment. Real winning players have to fight to even be able to play.
I beleive I actually put more dollar action into play annually than you do because of my volume of play, or if not, it is pretty close. (not that THAT is a competition). And you want to know why I don't get much return from casinos in terms of comps and freebies? BECAUSE I AM A WINNING PLAYER. Again THAT is the way the industry works!!! They simply don't give everything you are getting to a longterm winning player, or a +EV player. THAT is the hole in all of this you have never been able to fill.
Now I don't know, maybe what I have posted does cross some line, but it needs to be said. I'll leave it to Wiz and oncedear to decide. Doesn't matter to me, because you and your shenanigans have turned me off to this forum, as far as the desire I had not long ago to return and particpate here. And although I don't consider myself a gambler, I would bet you have turned off many others members as well. And honestly, I beleive that was you intent.
The problem with this post/thread as all your recent efforts is that you seem to need to elevate yourself as something special, to some celebrity status. It shows in all your posts on multiple sites, It shows in the films clips you select and post. It shows that you started a thread about VIP opening of Resorts World, when there were 2 threads already about the opening. Your VIP posts could have gone right in one of those threads. But YOU had to create a new thread trying to elevate yourself.
You are a high limit player, that gets the perks you get, high end suites, tickets to Golden Knights game, invites to the private VIP parties for casino openings, and access to VIP gambling area ONLY because you are a high limit LOSING player. THAT IS THE WAY THE CASINO INDUSTRY WORKS! PERIOD!! They do not give all that to longtime or longterm winning players.
What you are posting is not real, it is not the way the casino industry in Las Vegas works.. If you had just stuck to that you are a higher limit player that gets comped because he is losing, your 'tales' would have been better recieved and interesting even to someone like me, who does make a living off casinos but doesn't get that kind of treatment. Real winning players have to fight to even be able to play.
I beleive I actually put more dollar action into play annually than you do because of my volume of play, or if not, it is pretty close. (not that THAT is a competition). And you want to know why I don't get much return from casinos in terms of comps and freebies? BECAUSE I AM A WINNING PLAYER. Again THAT is the way the industry works!!! They simply don't give everything you are getting to a longterm winning player, or a +EV player. THAT is the hole in all of this you have never been able to fill.
Now I don't know, maybe what I have posted does cross some line, but it needs to be said. I'll leave it to Wiz and oncedear to decide. Doesn't matter to me, because you and your shenanigans have turned me off to this forum, as far as the desire I had not long ago to return and particpate here. And although I don't consider myself a gambler, I would bet you have turned off many others members as well. And honestly, I beleive that was you intent.
June 28th, 2021 at 8:20:58 AM
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Owning Mahoney, with Philip Seymour Hoffman, was a great movie. Wings, no sauce, as they say. Plus he drove a car very much like a few of mine.
I saw Mike Tyson a couple of times in Caesars. He's actually not a big guy. His bodyguards were very big guys.
Back in the day, I saw Lefty Rosenthal at the Stardust a couple of times. He looked absolutely nothing like Robert DeNiro, but he did wear those canary yellow silk suits seen in the movie Casino. With a matching fedora.
Jimmy JJ Walker bet football (especially Canadian) at the Stardust. He actually knew his stuff. I probably saw him in there half a dozen times or more. He was enough of a regular that I kind of stopped noticing him.
Speaking of Casino, I saw DeNiro and Rickles doing the long walk through the casino scene as it was shot at the Riviera. I still have a coin cup prop from The Tangiers.
The most off the wall celebrity I saw was middle of the night in Atlantic City in a coffee shop. Tiny Tim was hunkered down in a booth near our table. He was a very big man.
I saw Mike Tyson a couple of times in Caesars. He's actually not a big guy. His bodyguards were very big guys.
Back in the day, I saw Lefty Rosenthal at the Stardust a couple of times. He looked absolutely nothing like Robert DeNiro, but he did wear those canary yellow silk suits seen in the movie Casino. With a matching fedora.
Jimmy JJ Walker bet football (especially Canadian) at the Stardust. He actually knew his stuff. I probably saw him in there half a dozen times or more. He was enough of a regular that I kind of stopped noticing him.
Speaking of Casino, I saw DeNiro and Rickles doing the long walk through the casino scene as it was shot at the Riviera. I still have a coin cup prop from The Tangiers.
The most off the wall celebrity I saw was middle of the night in Atlantic City in a coffee shop. Tiny Tim was hunkered down in a booth near our table. He was a very big man.
"You can't breathe dead hippo waking, sleeping, and eating, and at the same time keep your precarious grip on existence."
June 28th, 2021 at 8:27:48 AM
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I wonder how many of the players decided to take a big shot?
Do you think Fleury gambled? Seems more in character to SAVE his money.
I'll see myself out.
Do you think Fleury gambled? Seems more in character to SAVE his money.
I'll see myself out.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
June 28th, 2021 at 8:29:32 AM
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I saw Louie Anderson at The Plaza. Additionally, there was some celebrity my ex-wife said she saw when we were at Four Queens, but I forget who it was.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
June 28th, 2021 at 8:32:27 AM
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My 'big' celebrity experience was Louie Anderson (sorry Louie for the 'big' pun). I played blackjack with Louie two different times in Atalnatic City back in the mid 2000's. It was a marina casino, not Borgatta, so either Harrahs or what at the time was the Trump property. It was early in my carreer so a $5 table (could have been $10 but I beleive $5), which in itself was funny that he was playing those limits.
Louie whined about almost every hand, just like he was doing his 'act'. "Do you beleive this", "would you look at that" ...that kind of thing in his whiney voice. It was funny for about 2 seconds. Unfortunately I played with him about an hour each time. :(
Louie whined about almost every hand, just like he was doing his 'act'. "Do you beleive this", "would you look at that" ...that kind of thing in his whiney voice. It was funny for about 2 seconds. Unfortunately I played with him about an hour each time. :(
June 28th, 2021 at 8:46:39 AM
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As for members of the Montreal Canadians gambling at the Wynn:
I am not calling anyone a liar, but said story would violate the covid travel agreement between the NHL and Canadian government that allowed teams and player to travel accoss borders. Unlike the U.S, Canada still has pretty severe restrictions. The agreement was that teams and players could travel but would remain in a bubble in the cities they play consisting of the hotel. The Canadian Govenrment said it intended to monitor and enforce this agreement agressively. So players gambling in casino in Las vegas would be a pretty open display, that could place them in jeopardy of not being able to play in the Stanley cup finals. Just speaking for myself, I doubt they would do that or team management would allow that.
I am not calling anyone a liar, but said story would violate the covid travel agreement between the NHL and Canadian government that allowed teams and player to travel accoss borders. Unlike the U.S, Canada still has pretty severe restrictions. The agreement was that teams and players could travel but would remain in a bubble in the cities they play consisting of the hotel. The Canadian Govenrment said it intended to monitor and enforce this agreement agressively. So players gambling in casino in Las vegas would be a pretty open display, that could place them in jeopardy of not being able to play in the Stanley cup finals. Just speaking for myself, I doubt they would do that or team management would allow that.
June 28th, 2021 at 8:58:47 AM
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I probably should expand on my previous post for those that may not be familiar. Because Canada has these tight travel restrictions, the 6 Canadian teams only played against each other all season long. No travel to the U.S. No U.S. teams traveled to Canada.
First two rounds of playoffs were played within each division meaning the 4 Canadian teams in the playoffs only played against each other.
It was this recently completed 3rd round of playoffs that would require a Canadian team to travel to the U.S to play. So Montreal traveling to and playing in Las vegas was the first time a Canadian team played outside of Canada since Covid began and these tight restrictions that the team would remain isolated in a "bubble" consisting of the hotel ONLY. This was not a policy, this was an agreement between the Canadian government and NHL.
So Montreal players gambling at the Wynn is a good story...but, the writer seems full of good "stories". :/
First two rounds of playoffs were played within each division meaning the 4 Canadian teams in the playoffs only played against each other.
It was this recently completed 3rd round of playoffs that would require a Canadian team to travel to the U.S to play. So Montreal traveling to and playing in Las vegas was the first time a Canadian team played outside of Canada since Covid began and these tight restrictions that the team would remain isolated in a "bubble" consisting of the hotel ONLY. This was not a policy, this was an agreement between the Canadian government and NHL.
So Montreal players gambling at the Wynn is a good story...but, the writer seems full of good "stories". :/
June 28th, 2021 at 9:11:06 AM
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Quote: kewljI probably should expand on my previous post for those that may not be familiar. Because Canada has these tight travel restrictions, the 6 Canadian teams only played against each other all season long. No travel to the U.S. No U.S. teams traveled to Canada.
First two rounds of playoffs were played within each division meaning the 4 Canadian teams in the playoffs only played against each other.
It was this recently completed 3rd round of playoffs that would require a Canadian team to travel to the U.S to play. So Montreal traveling to and playing in Las vegas was the first time a Canadian team played outside of Canada since Covid began and these tight restrictions that the team would remain isolated in a "bubble" consisting of the hotel ONLY. This was not a policy, this was an agreement between the Canadian government and NHL.
So Montreal players gambling at the Wynn is a good story...but, the writer seems full of good "stories". :/
I mean I guess it’s possible….but I’m with you. I think the story is in error. They beat the Golden Knights in Montreal on Thursday. They are flying down to Tampa to start their series tonight. In between, these players….under gargantuan restrictions, flew off to Vegas in between the series, violating all protocols?
They would have been back on the practice rink on Friday and Saturday.
June 28th, 2021 at 9:16:07 AM
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Another celebrity I've experienced during this past trip, is a Baccarat celebrity (of sorts).
This guy is allowed to move freely between four Baccarat tables at the same time, and is given access to the pit area where normally only pit bosses, dealers and other staff are allowed. I mean – yes! he walks right there between the tables just like casino staff. He introduced himself to me at some point after the portion of his session I observed, so I know his name, but I won't put him on blast because even Googling his name reveals nothing about his Vegas antics, so I assume he would rather remain private as to his gambling habits.
The way this works is:
1. He plays with a line of around $2M minimum, and up to $13M at a time.
2. His bets range from $25K to $100K (that I observed) PER TABLE. (And - he plays FOUR tables at a time.)
2. As he plays, the guy never touches his chips. When he wins, a pit boss at each table picks up his winnings and holds them for him until he designates what is to be done with them (typically, applied to losing call bets).
3. When he loses, a plastic lammer is placed into the tray to indicate that he owes for what is usually known as a "Call Bet." With most if not all players, only one losing "Call Bet" is allowed before a marker must be printed. With this guy, he is allowed to rack up hundreds of thousands in lammers and no marker is printed.
4. He often asks a given table to "wait for him," which slows down the game. The day I experienced this, I was playing a public table, which was one of the four he was playing simultaneously. I actually didn’t appreciate his presence, novelty or not, as it slowed down the game.
5. I was playing at a regular midi-Bacc table that day, where the cards are opened and viewed by the players. As background information, at a midi-Bacc table the high bettor is the one who is allowed to view the cards. This guy sometimes sits down to view the hand himself, sometimes just asks the dealer to open the entire hand mini-Bacc table, and sometimes designates someone at the table to view the hand, someone that he considers "lucky" and has been winning. He does not play every hand at every table, and rarely bets against anyone, although he does place contrary bets on occasion.
6. After a while, as he observed that my stack of chips was rising monstrously, he told the pit boss at my table, "Only he can open," and I was allowed to open (view) the cards on any bet I placed when he was also betting the same side.
7. I was playing pretty nonstop that day myself, but even after I won and left and came back just to see what was happening, he was still there, standing the whole time, and a pit boss I talked to told me that the guy hadn't eaten, hadn't taken a drink of any liquids, hadn't taken a bathroom break, hadn't left the tables (for something like TWELVE hours straight).
8. At my table, while I was there, and after he started following my bet choices, he WON, but everywhere else, I noticed (and later was told) that the plastic lammers indicating losing call bets were stacking up against him.
I talked to him for a bit, and that is how I got to know his name, but he was so busy that he didn't have time for much chit chat.
Later, I talked to some of the casino insiders I know, and the guy is well known in the casino circuit as someone whom I am told has dumped hundreds of millions of dollars, and apparently during the week he was playing, ended up owing over twenty million around town (that I assume he paid off, haven't followed up to check on that yet). From what I was told, he always loses, and never stops until the money (what he has been allowed in credit) is gone.
From what I am told, he doesn't play that often, but when he does, it's until the wheels come off.
This is the craziest, highest level of Baccarat play I have ever experienced. Considering that he bet up to $100K per hand at ONE table, and played four at a time, that means $400K max, per hand, effectively. It reminded me of chess grandmasters who play against multiple players at once in exhibition games - one came to our high school once and played 12 of us simultaneously, and beat 11 of us in a televised match (I managed to get a draw against him, not because I was anywhere near as good as he was, but just because, I suppose, he was tapped out from playing 11 other games at the same time. I was though, at the time, the countywide school chess champion.).
So if you're talking high end celebrity Baccarat play, this was it, no holds barred.
This guy is allowed to move freely between four Baccarat tables at the same time, and is given access to the pit area where normally only pit bosses, dealers and other staff are allowed. I mean – yes! he walks right there between the tables just like casino staff. He introduced himself to me at some point after the portion of his session I observed, so I know his name, but I won't put him on blast because even Googling his name reveals nothing about his Vegas antics, so I assume he would rather remain private as to his gambling habits.
The way this works is:
1. He plays with a line of around $2M minimum, and up to $13M at a time.
2. His bets range from $25K to $100K (that I observed) PER TABLE. (And - he plays FOUR tables at a time.)
2. As he plays, the guy never touches his chips. When he wins, a pit boss at each table picks up his winnings and holds them for him until he designates what is to be done with them (typically, applied to losing call bets).
3. When he loses, a plastic lammer is placed into the tray to indicate that he owes for what is usually known as a "Call Bet." With most if not all players, only one losing "Call Bet" is allowed before a marker must be printed. With this guy, he is allowed to rack up hundreds of thousands in lammers and no marker is printed.
4. He often asks a given table to "wait for him," which slows down the game. The day I experienced this, I was playing a public table, which was one of the four he was playing simultaneously. I actually didn’t appreciate his presence, novelty or not, as it slowed down the game.
5. I was playing at a regular midi-Bacc table that day, where the cards are opened and viewed by the players. As background information, at a midi-Bacc table the high bettor is the one who is allowed to view the cards. This guy sometimes sits down to view the hand himself, sometimes just asks the dealer to open the entire hand mini-Bacc table, and sometimes designates someone at the table to view the hand, someone that he considers "lucky" and has been winning. He does not play every hand at every table, and rarely bets against anyone, although he does place contrary bets on occasion.
6. After a while, as he observed that my stack of chips was rising monstrously, he told the pit boss at my table, "Only he can open," and I was allowed to open (view) the cards on any bet I placed when he was also betting the same side.
7. I was playing pretty nonstop that day myself, but even after I won and left and came back just to see what was happening, he was still there, standing the whole time, and a pit boss I talked to told me that the guy hadn't eaten, hadn't taken a drink of any liquids, hadn't taken a bathroom break, hadn't left the tables (for something like TWELVE hours straight).
8. At my table, while I was there, and after he started following my bet choices, he WON, but everywhere else, I noticed (and later was told) that the plastic lammers indicating losing call bets were stacking up against him.
I talked to him for a bit, and that is how I got to know his name, but he was so busy that he didn't have time for much chit chat.
Later, I talked to some of the casino insiders I know, and the guy is well known in the casino circuit as someone whom I am told has dumped hundreds of millions of dollars, and apparently during the week he was playing, ended up owing over twenty million around town (that I assume he paid off, haven't followed up to check on that yet). From what I was told, he always loses, and never stops until the money (what he has been allowed in credit) is gone.
From what I am told, he doesn't play that often, but when he does, it's until the wheels come off.
This is the craziest, highest level of Baccarat play I have ever experienced. Considering that he bet up to $100K per hand at ONE table, and played four at a time, that means $400K max, per hand, effectively. It reminded me of chess grandmasters who play against multiple players at once in exhibition games - one came to our high school once and played 12 of us simultaneously, and beat 11 of us in a televised match (I managed to get a draw against him, not because I was anywhere near as good as he was, but just because, I suppose, he was tapped out from playing 11 other games at the same time. I was though, at the time, the countywide school chess champion.).
So if you're talking high end celebrity Baccarat play, this was it, no holds barred.
Last edited by: MDawg on Jun 28, 2021
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
June 28th, 2021 at 9:16:39 AM
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Quote: TDVegasI mean I guess it’s possible….but I’m with you. I think the story is in error. They beat the Golden Knights in Montreal on Thursday. They are flying down to Tampa to start their series tonight. In between, these players….under gargantuan restrictions, flew off to Vegas in between the series, violating all protocols?
They would have been back on the practice rink on Friday and Saturday.
I assume Mdawgs post was in reference to while they were in town playing the Golden Knights. Flying back to US and Las Vegas after the series would require each player to be in quarantine for 14 days.
So if it was during their stay here in Vegas, under the agreement the Montreal Canadians were restricted to their hotel rooms and a private meeting room. They even had their meals served in their rooms.
June 28th, 2021 at 9:26:30 AM
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I saw Telly Savalas playing poker at the Riviera many many many many years ago. Had to be early 90s since he died in '94.
June 28th, 2021 at 9:26:47 AM
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Mike Ditka at the Four Winds Casino near the Indiana-Michigan border about 2010. He was smoking a huge cigar and playing craps.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
June 28th, 2021 at 9:28:22 AM
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Quote: kewljMdawg, as I understand the agreement that I agreed to back in April, I am allowed to respond to you in threads other than the now hidden thread, so I will do just that. :)
Yes, you are allowed to post in new threads mdawg may create. However, such posts must be on topic. You are charged with rehashing old stuff and not on topic at all to celebrity sightings in casinos.
For another truce violation and personal insults -- another month.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 28th, 2021 at 9:36:46 AM
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My wife ran into Louis Rukeyser (if you remember him) at the Bellagio around 20 years ago. This was a few years before he died so he was practically deaf.
She made a big fuss over him since I watched his show every week and got his newsletter. She said his son was with him and seemed pleased that his dad was getting celebrity recognition.
She made a big fuss over him since I watched his show every week and got his newsletter. She said his son was with him and seemed pleased that his dad was getting celebrity recognition.
Have you tried 22 tonight? I said 22.
June 28th, 2021 at 9:40:19 AM
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Quote: TDVegasThe Montreal Canadians, who beat the Golden Knights on Thursday and advanced to the Stanley Cup, flew all the way back to Vegas to gamble this weekend?
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Absolutely not. They played in Montreal on Thursday night and are in Tampa today. They wouldn't come to Vegas before the Stanley Cup. If he changes his story to Tuesday night it might be believable.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 28th, 2021 at 9:43:52 AM
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I have played Blackjack with OJ Simpson at the Tropicana and Cindy Crawford at the San Remo.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 28th, 2021 at 9:53:00 AM
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I saw Redd Foxx playing blackjack at The Silver Bird. This was when he had an engagement in their showroom and I was staying at the hotel.
Saw T.J Cloutier playing craps at Four Queens around 2002. About this time I saw Chris Ferguson and Eric Seidel playing poker on the second floor of Binion’s Horseshoe.
Saw T.J Cloutier playing craps at Four Queens around 2002. About this time I saw Chris Ferguson and Eric Seidel playing poker on the second floor of Binion’s Horseshoe.
June 28th, 2021 at 9:56:02 AM
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Quote: GreasyjohnI saw Redd Foxx playing blackjack at The Silver Bird. This was when he had an engagement in their showroom and I was staying at the hotel.
In the mid to late 1990's Redd Fox would be playing $5 slots almost everyday at Sam's Town. It would also not be uncommon for him to be smelling some white powder while at the machine.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 28th, 2021 at 10:13:20 AM
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I was walking around the Shops at Ceasar's once after buying my girlfriend a Burberry purse and we were in of the shops when they told us they were closing to the public for a few minutes. I stuck around to see why and it was so Jay-Z and Beyonce could shop alone in private. We stood outside and watched them for a few minutes.
I was also walking thru the shops one day looking at my phone and when I looked up, I bumped into Jerry Rice. He was headed to an autograph session.
I was also walking thru the shops one day looking at my phone and when I looked up, I bumped into Jerry Rice. He was headed to an autograph session.
June 28th, 2021 at 10:15:55 AM
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I've actually played with Michael Jordan at the same table years ago, before he stopped gambling. This was around the time that he and Charles Barclay would hit casinos together (celebrity golf tournaments). Jordan quit gambling; Barclay continues to play. I understand that Barclay got into trouble over gambling debts for a while there during that period.
Back when the Hard Rock Vegas was still hot, I'd see Dennis Rodham, Carmen Electra, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Pink, many other celebrities there all the time. I witnessed a drunken Matt Damon carried up to his room. Used to play Baccarat with Joe Viterelli.
Played Baccarat with one of the Maloof brothers at the London Club (Aladdin) more than once.
I've seen Bill Gates playing Blackjack years ago - red ($5) chips only. Howie Mandell - max bet, $25. that I ever saw.
I played BlackJack at same table with the great Wayne Gretzky once at Mandalay Bay. Gretzky high fived everyone at the table whenever the dealer busted.
That was a few years before this:
VEGAS IS WAYNE’S ROLLER RINK – BLEW THROUGH $2M AT CASINOS: REPORT
Another Baccarat celebrity I witnessed was Kerry Packer - he and I were in Vegas around the same time, and played Baccarat in the same (at that time, all public) salon at the Bellagio, right after 9/11. He lost. I won.
Back when the Hard Rock Vegas was still hot, I'd see Dennis Rodham, Carmen Electra, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Pink, many other celebrities there all the time. I witnessed a drunken Matt Damon carried up to his room. Used to play Baccarat with Joe Viterelli.
Played Baccarat with one of the Maloof brothers at the London Club (Aladdin) more than once.
I've seen Bill Gates playing Blackjack years ago - red ($5) chips only. Howie Mandell - max bet, $25. that I ever saw.
I played BlackJack at same table with the great Wayne Gretzky once at Mandalay Bay. Gretzky high fived everyone at the table whenever the dealer busted.
That was a few years before this:
VEGAS IS WAYNE’S ROLLER RINK – BLEW THROUGH $2M AT CASINOS: REPORT
Another Baccarat celebrity I witnessed was Kerry Packer - he and I were in Vegas around the same time, and played Baccarat in the same (at that time, all public) salon at the Bellagio, right after 9/11. He lost. I won.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
June 28th, 2021 at 10:30:30 AM
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I know some of the Vegas locals who were in the CASINO (1995) movie, including DeNiro's right hand man (no talking lines) in the casino, and also the guy from whom Ginger steals chips. "I've been watching you all night...Your bag is full of ____ chips." He used to be the manager of Bernini at Caesar's and now lives in Australia. Whenever I would see him he was wearing those exact glasses and dressing just like that in real life. I talk to him sometimes via the internet.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
June 28th, 2021 at 10:47:59 AM
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Quote: WizardYes, you are allowed to post in new threads mdawg may create. However, such posts must be on topic. You are charged with rehashing old stuff and not on topic at all to celebrity sightings in casinos.
For another truce violation and personal insults -- another month.
Obviously, unless weekends now include Thursdays, the Canadiens were not gambling in a private room in Las Vegas last weekend. I'm hoping getting the days of the week straight is not a "personal insult," but one never knows at the WoV.
My girlfriend's friend actually opened the movie Casino. They recruited him from the sports book. The producers did quite a lot of that actually. They hired local "consultants" and then decided the consultants could do the job more convincingly than actors, so they plugged them in.
"You can't breathe dead hippo waking, sleeping, and eating, and at the same time keep your precarious grip on existence."
June 28th, 2021 at 10:52:52 AM
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Quote: MDawg1. He plays with a line of around $2M minimum, and up to $13M at a time.
6. After a while, as he observed that my stack of chips was rising monstrously, he told the pit boss at my table, "Only he can open,"
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8. At my table, while I was there, and after he started following my bet choices, he WON, but everywhere else, I noticed (and later was told) that the plastic lammers indicating losing call bets were stacking up against him.
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An interesting slant on the meaning of a 'celebrity sightings'
Did he ask for your autograph?
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
June 28th, 2021 at 11:02:52 AM
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Quote: WizardYes, you are allowed to post in new threads mdawg may create. However, such posts must be on topic. You are charged with rehashing old stuff and not on topic at all to celebrity sightings in casinos.
For another truce violation and personal insults -- another month.
That's a shame. Old stuff is not old to everyone and I'm sure kewlj has more to offer the forum then mdawg.
June 28th, 2021 at 11:33:28 AM
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What is a no call bet?
Before trying to raise hell with the casino staff, you first need to check and see if the crap table you played on states “NO CALL BETS” on the layout. What that sign means is that a player is not allowed to call out a bet without having at least enough chips on the table to cover their wager.- Mar 6, 2008
Before trying to raise hell with the casino staff, you first need to check and see if the crap table you played on states “NO CALL BETS” on the layout. What that sign means is that a player is not allowed to call out a bet without having at least enough chips on the table to cover their wager.- Mar 6, 2008
June 28th, 2021 at 11:36:59 AM
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Call Bets are routine at Baccarat, but typically only one is allowed at a time. Win it, and you get the winning chip, and the plastic lammer that marked off the call bet disappears. Lose it, and you must either pay it off with cash (which would generally be unheard of, since only a player with a line would be allowed a call bet in the first place, and line players don't play with cash) or draw a marker against it against your line.
The equivalent in Blackjack is where, say, you end up with a double down that requires more chips than you have in front of you. You call out the words "MARK IT" and the casino drops the needed chips on your bet against your line, and then, just as above, either makes that "call bet" disappear if you win, or requires you to pay it off or print a new marker if you lose.
When I do something like this, if I lose the call bet I'll ask them to "print it to twenty" or some such, meaning that if I say, lose a thousand dollar call bet, I'll pay it off and get nineteen more with which to play.
Getting back to the casino celebrity aspect of this, I once saw a player lose so many call bets in a row that ended up with something like three million in plastic lammers in the tray - but again, it takes a special level player to even be allowed to make more than one call bet at a time. This player was betting against a long, long run. Pretty much any of these REALLY big players if you researched their names are celebrities of one kind or another - known if for nothing else, their wealth.
The equivalent in Blackjack is where, say, you end up with a double down that requires more chips than you have in front of you. You call out the words "MARK IT" and the casino drops the needed chips on your bet against your line, and then, just as above, either makes that "call bet" disappear if you win, or requires you to pay it off or print a new marker if you lose.
When I do something like this, if I lose the call bet I'll ask them to "print it to twenty" or some such, meaning that if I say, lose a thousand dollar call bet, I'll pay it off and get nineteen more with which to play.
Getting back to the casino celebrity aspect of this, I once saw a player lose so many call bets in a row that ended up with something like three million in plastic lammers in the tray - but again, it takes a special level player to even be allowed to make more than one call bet at a time. This player was betting against a long, long run. Pretty much any of these REALLY big players if you researched their names are celebrities of one kind or another - known if for nothing else, their wealth.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
June 28th, 2021 at 11:52:07 AM
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Quote: DRichy
Absolutely not. They played in Montreal on Thursday night and are in Tampa today. They wouldn't come to Vegas before the Stanley Cup. If he changes his story to Tuesday night it might be believable.
Yeah..something isn’t right. They were never in Vegas on a weekend playing the Golden Knights. Unless they decided to breach the rules which would have been a catastrophic mistake on the players part…this story has holes. I guess it’s always possible someone gave him bad info.
Even then…the dates don’t work.
June 28th, 2021 at 12:35:42 PM
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There are so many celebs in Vegas even the casinos cant keep track.
Rosie O'Donnell played $15 blackjack at Caesars at a crowded table.
Celine Dion's husband played at $25 tables at Caesars and Bellagio like everyone else. When he wanted a $25k marker the dealer asked him for ID.
I rode in elevators with Paul Anka.
My best story.... I'm waiting for a table with my extended family at Bellagio when New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson walks up to the hostess podium and asks for a table for one. The host says I'm sorry there will be a one hour wait. So Richardson takes a seat in a waiting area. That's when my father in law walks up to the host and says "that's the Governor of New Mexico." The Host quickly went over to Richardson and apologized and got him a table immediately.
Rosie O'Donnell played $15 blackjack at Caesars at a crowded table.
Celine Dion's husband played at $25 tables at Caesars and Bellagio like everyone else. When he wanted a $25k marker the dealer asked him for ID.
I rode in elevators with Paul Anka.
My best story.... I'm waiting for a table with my extended family at Bellagio when New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson walks up to the hostess podium and asks for a table for one. The host says I'm sorry there will be a one hour wait. So Richardson takes a seat in a waiting area. That's when my father in law walks up to the host and says "that's the Governor of New Mexico." The Host quickly went over to Richardson and apologized and got him a table immediately.
June 28th, 2021 at 12:40:46 PM
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Don't know if she was a celebrity or not but one night I was walking through MGM and while passing a bar adjacent to the walkway a stunningly beautiful woman approached me and started to chat me up.
She looked a lot like Julia Roberts, but in hinsight I suspect she was just another Las Vegas whore plying her trade.
Oh well, that's why some call it "Sin City."
She looked a lot like Julia Roberts, but in hinsight I suspect she was just another Las Vegas whore plying her trade.
Oh well, that's why some call it "Sin City."
"What, me worry?"
June 28th, 2021 at 3:28:46 PM
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Anyone with sufficient Vegas connections should be able to verify for himself that team members of both the Vegas Knights and the Montreal Canadiens were in fact at Encore this weekend as in just a couple days ago gambling. The Vegas Knights had a party at the Beach Club during the day then gambled that evening. The Canadiens had a private party in the back.
And anyone who doesn't have sufficient connections to verify something like this, is in no position to challenge my expertise.
And anyone who doesn't have sufficient connections to verify something like this, is in no position to challenge my expertise.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
June 28th, 2021 at 3:42:57 PM
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After the weigh in for GGG-Canelo II, my buddy and I were hanging around outside T-Mobil when Chuck Zito came strolling by. We said hi and he stopped and talked boxing with us for a good 45 minutes - very generous with his time. He was amazed that I knew that his Father was a pro boxer back in the day and also that he had met a friend of mine from my old neighborhood that had went to NYC and trained at Gleason's Gym with Zito's biker buddy and pro boxer John the Baptist. Chuck Zito is the real deal, the real deal.
I 'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers.
June 28th, 2021 at 3:46:56 PM
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
June 28th, 2021 at 4:04:36 PM
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I don’t recall ever seeing a celebrity at a casino but I’m very poor at knowing who most celebrities are anyway and I’m not typically at higher end places. My father said he played blackjack with Jerry Orbach at Ballys AC sometime in the 1990s. Said he was very nice and polite. Playing small—$15 hand or so.
If anyone gives you 10,000 to 1 on anything, you take it. If John Mellencamp ever wins an Oscar, I am going to be a very rich dude.
June 28th, 2021 at 4:23:14 PM
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Jamie Foxx and an entourage of about 12 at my blackjack table on the Harrah's boat in Shreveport LA in mid 1990's. He quickly lost $200 playing $25 hands and left the casino.
June 29th, 2021 at 10:58:11 AM
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Quote: MDawgAnyone with sufficient Vegas connections should be able to verify for himself that team members of both the Vegas Knights and the Montreal Canadiens were in fact at Encore this weekend as in just a couple days ago gambling. The Vegas Knights had a party at the Beach Club during the day then gambled that evening. The Canadiens had a private party in the back.
And anyone who doesn't have sufficient connections to verify something like this, is in no position to challenge my expertise.
Which players from Montreal did you see there? Oh, let me guess that you didn't see any of them but someone told you they were there. Did you track the Montreal's team airplane to see where it was on that day?
Personally, I don't think you know what you are talking about. Please show any proof that they were there that day and then I will believe you.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 29th, 2021 at 11:10:25 AM
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It's a fact. Members of both teams were partying and gambling in Vegas this weekend as in a few days ago.
Are the members here at WOV going to keep demonstrating that they have zero meaningful connections to Vegas, or are they going to get on the phone and verify what is in fact true.
Are the members here at WOV going to keep demonstrating that they have zero meaningful connections to Vegas, or are they going to get on the phone and verify what is in fact true.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
June 29th, 2021 at 12:25:55 PM
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Just call Montreal to get the time of their flight out of LV after the Thursday game. I could see them hanging in a private room, but that's not my definition of "partying." They would be completely insulated. The NHL isn't going to allow the Finals to get wiped out by Covid.
"You can't breathe dead hippo waking, sleeping, and eating, and at the same time keep your precarious grip on existence."
June 29th, 2021 at 12:28:02 PM
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Quote: redietzJust call Montreal to get the time of their flight out of LV after the Thursday game.
That would be difficult as the Thursday game was in Montreal.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 29th, 2021 at 12:36:43 PM
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Quote: DRichThat would be difficult as the Thursday game was in Montreal.
LOL. You're right. I must have been mesmerized by the Dawg.
Then there was no way on God's green earth they were partying in Las Vegas. What kind of a cockamamie story is that?
See, this is one issue with MDawg and Marcus. When was the last time either of them said, "Ooops, I was utterly wrong?" It's a little bit of a tell. Like the Marianas Trench is a little bit dark.
"You can't breathe dead hippo waking, sleeping, and eating, and at the same time keep your precarious grip on existence."
June 29th, 2021 at 12:45:20 PM
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Perhaps MDawg had someone inform him that the Canadiens were partying in Las Vegas. How was he to know!?!
Renault: What in heaven's name brought you to Casablanca?
Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
Renault: The waters!?! What waters? We're in the desert!
Rick: I was misinformed.
Renault: What in heaven's name brought you to Casablanca?
Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
Renault: The waters!?! What waters? We're in the desert!
Rick: I was misinformed.
"You can't breathe dead hippo waking, sleeping, and eating, and at the same time keep your precarious grip on existence."
June 29th, 2021 at 1:10:28 PM
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Amen to that, I have no interest in fawning over celebrities. Back when poker was hot and the Palms opened their "high limit" poker room, I meet and played poker with many, I don't even remember half of them, I even became chummy with a few.Quote: AlanMendelsonThere are so many celebs in Vegas even the casinos cant keep track.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
June 29th, 2021 at 1:56:01 PM
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I saw Huggie Bear from Starsky & Hutch at Red Rock. Playing roulette.
June 29th, 2021 at 7:40:27 PM
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The Las Vegas Strangler: Parts 1 & 2" September 25, 1976 S/E 201-202
Starsky and Hutch are temporarily assigned to the Las Vegas Police Department to assist in the capture of a serial killer targeting Vegas Showgirls. After arriving in the city the detectives learn that the assignment was not random and Hutch may have ties to the prime suspect in the murders.
Note: Lynda Carter of Wonder Woman fame appears in the episode as a target of the killer. Also features the new theme music by Tom Scott entitled Gotcha. It replaces the original music composed by Lalo Schifrin and used for the entirety of season one.
Starsky and Hutch are temporarily assigned to the Las Vegas Police Department to assist in the capture of a serial killer targeting Vegas Showgirls. After arriving in the city the detectives learn that the assignment was not random and Hutch may have ties to the prime suspect in the murders.
Note: Lynda Carter of Wonder Woman fame appears in the episode as a target of the killer. Also features the new theme music by Tom Scott entitled Gotcha. It replaces the original music composed by Lalo Schifrin and used for the entirety of season one.
June 29th, 2021 at 9:57:59 PM
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Quote: ChumpChangeThe Las Vegas Strangler: Parts 1 & 2" September 25, 1976 S/E 201-202
Starsky and Hutch are temporarily assigned to the Las Vegas Police Department to assist in the capture of a serial killer targeting Vegas Showgirls. After arriving in the city the detectives learn that the assignment was not random and Hutch may have ties to the prime suspect in the murders.
Note: Lynda Carter of Wonder Woman fame appears in the episode as a target of the killer. Also features the new theme music by Tom Scott entitled Gotcha. It replaces the original music composed by Lalo Schifrin and used for the entirety of season one.
https://youtu.be/0xi9P6WBUTE
June 30th, 2021 at 9:24:12 AM
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A quick Google search at work that led me to multiple Twitter, FaceBook and Montreal Candian Social media feeds shows that the Montreal Canadians were in Montreal Thursday night for the game. Then left for Tampa Bay, from Montreal, on Sunday.
I'm willing to offer a small wager for anyone who can prove me otherwise. I am 99.9% sure my findings are accurate!
I'm willing to offer a small wager for anyone who can prove me otherwise. I am 99.9% sure my findings are accurate!
June 30th, 2021 at 9:32:31 AM
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Quote: mwalz9
I'm willing to offer a small wager for anyone who can prove me otherwise. I am 99.9% sure my findings are accurate!
Are you implying MDawg is wrong? Not possible.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
