BoSox Blackjack discussion thread
Quote: BoSox
Sir all due respect you do not set the standards for anybody. Serious point now the short session hit and run style of play that you use how does that help out our east coast brethren whose casino's locations are spread out miles apart? Now let's talk about the people that do play blackjack in the Los Vegas area. How can it possibly help them when your early January report shows yet another positive year, WHILE STILL BEING WELCOME TO PLAY, continuing to outwit many of the dumb casino operations in the area? I am sorry that this next part needs to be spelled out to you but, the modest amount of money winning that you report annually has absolutely nothing to do with the overall picture. This has everything to do with someone who can get away with it. Proffesional Player subjective.
Since you seem incapable of following the rules and want to disrespect the forum and administrator by not doing so, I will start your new thread for you, BoSox.
I don't know what bug is up your ass, nor care, but not only do I make no apologies for my career results, but am rather proud. 17 years, 1.2 million from blackjack, nearly 1.5 million total advantage play. I am sorry if you consider that a pittance amount that should dis-qualify myself from calling myself a "professional player" and sharing my experiences. I am very happy with my results and the levels I play, which IS part of my extended game plan. As I have stated before, I play limits that are well tolerated with an eye toward longevity because I would like to play for another 10 years. I have the bankroll to play higher stakes and make more money (annually), but that would probably result in a premature end to me being welcome to play in this town.
As for your comments about blackjack info (same owner as this forum) and 4 members there, all who are smarter than me, that may very well be true. I humbly acknowledge most people on forums that I participate on, are probably smarter than me. But that doesn't mean they are more successful in this field than I, nor does it mean that I should be disqualified from sharing my experiences. I believe I have plenty to offer any legitimate gambling related forum. Now the troll/hate forums , yes I may be overmatched. I am out of my element there.
As per the other forum you repeatedly mention, please stop trying to bait me. I am prohibited from even mentioning that forum or situation. I agree to that and am trying to stick to that agreement. If you have a problem with that, talk to Wizard.
And finally, stop your hating and trolling BoSox. It is unbecoming of you and I know you are better than this.
Quote: kewlj
I don't know what bug is up your ass, nor care, but not only do I make no apologies for my career results, but am rather proud. 17 years, 1.2 million from blackjack, nearly 1.5 million total advantage play. I am sorry if you consider that a pittance amount that should dis-qualify myself from calling myself a "professional player" and sharing my experiences. I am very happy with my results and the levels I play, which IS part of my extended game plan. As I have stated before, I play limits that are well tolerated with an eye toward longevity because I would like to play for another 10 years. I have the bankroll to play higher stakes and make more money (annually), but that would probably result in a premature end to me being welcome to play in this town.
Turn on a BIG HUGE FLASHING NEON LIGHT stating as you enter Las Vegas.
Casinos' managements are dumb and stupid and can be easily exploited. Rub it right in their face.
Then come right back on a forum and let the membership know how you share your journey and help them all out.
Sorry, I have never been impressed with any of this.
Quote: BoSoxTurn on a BIG HUGE FLASHING NEON LIGHT stating as you enter vegas.
Casinos' managements are dumb and stupid and can be easily exploited. Rub it right in their face.
Then come right back on a forum and let the membership know how you share your journey and help them all out.
Sorry, I have never been impressed with any of this.
Funny. YOU say this and throughout the years others have said just the opposite, some even accusing me of working for the casinos to entice players to las Vegas to lose. Of course neither is true. I am just a mid level player....playing.
As for "Rubbing anyone's face in it", nothing could be further from the truth. I respect those on the other side of the table / pit and show that respect by playing limits that are better tolerated and short sessions, together with lower limits that don't put these folks in a position that they have to answer for. THAT has been my whole game plan.
And the end result is most, not all, but most tend to look the other way. I am no problem for them and will be gone soon. And I will go even further that that, some pit folks, I even have a pretty decent relationship with. Mostly just friendly small talk, but it is not like waring fractions.
And I probably shouldn't mention this, but one guy at a place know as very sweaty that I play frequently, several years ago when I returned to play after my heart surgery, he told me he was glad to see me and had been praying for me. I play unrated there and wasn't sure he even knew who I was. Obviously he read my situation on one of the forums, but what a very decent man and attitude, proving no one is at war with anyone.
Quote: BoSoxAnd someone like you comes along and tells the internet all about his exploits. Astonishing!
Just stop it!. Card counting is well known. Nothing new here. For every player that comes along and plays disciplined enough to win and has the bankroll and stomach to withstand the ugly variance of the game, there are 100 that try to play with an advantage and don't or can't.
Stories of a player winning are actually good for the casinos bottom line.
Quote: kewljJust stop it!. Card counting is well known. Nothing new here. For every player that comes along and plays disciplined enough towinand has the bankroll and stomach to withstand the ugly variance of the game, there are 100that try to play with an advantage and don't or can't.
Stories of a player winning are actually good for the casinos bottom line.
I have almost zero experience with Blackjack card counting, but I tend to agree with KewlJ that the casinos have won more from people who think they can count cards than they have lost to people who actually can.
Stories of a player winning are actually good for the casinos bottom line."
Jackpot winners etc. Not anyone who can play with an advantage.
Quote: Mission146I have almost zero experience with Blackjack card counting, but I tend to agree with KewlJ that the casinos have won more from people who think they can count cards than they have lost to people who actually can.
Mission146 is 100% correct in your thinking. However, there is no undertaking or amount of expense they will use to get rid of the pest that does exist that takes crumbs and are good for business sense. There is no logic in all of this, casino managements are in fact really stupid in a business sense.
BoSox
I am not disputing at all your claimed winnings over the years. However, your presentation of these claims is misleading. To quote:
" To see just what a professional blackjack player really is, not what the movies show, just what kind of money is possible,"
Even above you refer to informing another singular player just what money is possible. Really that sounds rather selfish on your part. First, id like to say that I am very sorry that you lost your partner in life.
Quoting some of your last response:
"For the record, anyone familiar with me is probably aware that my late partner, played a unique role in assisting me with my AP play. He handled most of our machine play, managed my chip inventory, and served as my driver, which for a player playing my style of hit and run is a huge time-saving advantage. He was a great benefit to me in this role and I miss him personally and professionally."
I believe all of that, although, it is very apparent that the business side of the operation was a full two-person team effort. WAS IT NOT? Why then tell other prospective players what a singular professional can make? Is that misleading? I think so.
What's the full story there KJ? Sounds like he should have been receiving at least $50 an hour.
Quote: BoSox
What's the full story there KJ? Sounds like he should have been receiving at least $50 an hour.
Full story? I am more than happy to talk about it, Bosox, although this really has the feel of you nit picking and looking to start an argument and challenge me. It is strange that you bring this up, years after my partner has passed.
My partner and best friend from Philly followed me to Vegas a year after I moved here. He was 20 years my senior, retired, on social security disability with a very bad back. He expressed a desire to do some AP stuff. At the time, a year after I moved here, I had gotten into some supplemental machine play, which I really didn't care much for. I only got into it because another Vegas AP, convinced me that not playing the "mailer game" and taking advantage of the casinos competing with each other for local players, was in effect, "leaving money on the table".
So first thing I did was teach him what I wanted done there. Just enough machine play to draw mailer amounts that made the whole experience +EV. He handled the play, but it was my money (bankroll) and we split all proceeds 50/50.
I also taught him to play blackjack....MY WAY. :) One of three people I have now taught, although one roommate was basically a bust. So my partner, could only play limited blackjack because he could not sit at the table that long. So I developed my own unique version of the traditional call in. Father/son role play. He would play at the table and count and when he signaled, I would come over and occasionally join him with bigger bets, but usually I would just come over and say "lets go eat" or something to that effect at which he would reply "after this shoe". I mean the shoe was at a strong +EV count, so we would be leaving anyway.
Then I would openly challenge him to bet more for the remainder of the (+EV) shoe. I would say something like, well if you are going to bet, at least bet some real money, sometimes even pushing his chips in the circle. I liked to say things like "you know you can't take it with you when you die". Dealers and pit folks frequently found this amusing and sometimes even joined in with me, encouraging him to bet more (in a strong +EV situation). That is how good the act was. :/ Then win or lose at the shuffle we were off to eat (or more likely another casino).
The act got old quick locally, so was limited, but we used it on trips, to REALLY ramp up bets, pretty successfully. So any money won from this version of call in partnership was split evenly as well. And over the years when I mentioned my winning, I only included my half from this play.
As far as driving. I didn't drive in my teens or 20's. Living in the center city of an east coast city like Philly, there was no need to drive. It actually was a hassle with expensive parking and all. Easier to get around on foot, bike, public transportation and when need be cab. So when I moved to Vegas, I still didn't drive. I lived walking distance to the strip and took the bus downtown. But during that first year, as I learned about the local casinos, like Stations, Boyd, Silverton, South Point etc, spread out all over town, it became clear to me this was a car-necessary town. I got my license, leased a car (a few months later, won a truck at South Point) and about this time, my partner had followed me to Vegas, and being that he was traveling around town with me, doing machine play and occasional blackjack partnership, he just sort of started handling all the driving.
For the hit and run style I had adopted, it didn't change my results, but did enable me to get in and out of casinos quicker, which was a big benefit. I paid the gas, and expenses on the vehicles. He drove, which he had to do anyway to do his machine play. He got free lunch every day. We never discussed that he should get a salary for driving. He got his share of the AP plays in which he participated. We were both happy with the arrangement, so it seems odd that you seem to have a problem with it. But if it makes you feel any better, when he passed I gave his adult kids (who he didn't have much of a relationship with) some money. More than he had to his name with his social security and half our AP play.
Anything else on your mind, BoSox?
Quote: kewljFull story? I am more than happy to talk about it, Bosox, although this really has the feel of you nit picking and looking to start an argument and challenge me. It is strange that you bring this up, years after my partner has passed.
My partner and best friend from Philly followed me to Vegas a year after I moved here. He was 20 years my senior, retired, on social security disability with a very bad back. He expressed a desire to do some AP stuff. At the time, a year after I moved here, I had gotten into some supplemental machine play, which I really didn't care much for. I only got into it because another Vegas AP, convinced me that not playing the "mailer game" and taking advantage of the casinos competing with each other for local players, was in effect, "leaving money on the table".
So first thing I did was teach him what I wanted done there. Just enough machine play to draw mailer amounts that made the whole experience +EV. He handled the play, but it was my money (bankroll) and we split all proceeds 50/50.
I also taught him to play blackjack....MY WAY. :) One of three people I have now taught, although one roommate was basically a bust. So my partner, could only play limited blackjack because he could not sit at the table that long. So I developed my own unique version of the traditional call in. Father/son role play. He would play at the table and count and when he signaled, I would come over and occasionally join him with bigger bets, but usually I would just come over and say "lets go eat" or something to that effect at which he would reply "after this shoe". I mean the shoe was at a strong +EV count, so we would be leaving anyway.
Then I would openly challenge him to bet more for the remainder of the (+EV) shoe. I would say something like, well if you are going to bet, at least bet some real money, sometimes even pushing his chips in the circle. I liked to say things like "you know you can't take it with you when you die". Dealers and pit folks frequently found this amusing and sometimes even joined in with me, encouraging him to bet more (in a strong +EV situation). That is how good the act was. :/ Then win or lose at the shuffle we were off to eat (or more likely another casino).
The act got old quick locally, so was limited, but we used it on trips, to REALLY ramp up bets, pretty successfully. So any money won from this version of call in partnership was split evenly as well. And over the years when I mentioned my winning, I only included my half from this play.
As far as driving. I didn't drive in my teens or 20's. Living in the center city of an east coast city like Philly, there was no need to drive. It actually was a hassle with expensive parking and all. Easier to get around on foot, bike, public transportation and when need be cab. So when I moved to Vegas, I still didn't drive. I lived walking distance to the strip and took the bus downtown. But during that first year, as I learned about the local casinos, like Stations, Boyd, Silverton, South Point etc, spread out all over town, it became clear to me this was a car-necessary town. I got my license, leased a car (a few months later, won a truck at South Point) and about this time, my partner had followed me to Vegas, and being that he was traveling around town with me, doing machine play and occasional blackjack partnership, he just sort of started handling all the driving.
For the hit and run style I had adopted, it didn't change my results, but did enable me to get in and out of casinos quicker, which was a big benefit. I paid the gas, and expenses on the vehicles. He drove, which he had to do anyway to do his machine play. He got free lunch every day. We never discussed that he should get a salary for driving. He got his share of the AP plays in which he participated. We were both happy with the arrangement, so it seems odd that you seem to have a problem with it. But if it makes you feel any better, when he passed I gave his adult kids (who he didn't have much of a relationship with) some money. More than he had to his name with his social security and half our AP play.
Anything else on your mind, BoSox?
Just stumbled onto this thread, no idea what the argument is about but thanks for sharing that story Kewlj it was an incredibly interesting read!
Quote: kewljFull story? I am more than happy to talk about it, Bosox, although this really has the feel of you nit picking and looking to start an argument and challenge me. It is strange that you bring this up, years after my partner has passed.
My partner and best friend from Philly followed me to Vegas a year after I moved here. He was 20 years my senior, retired, on social security disability with a very bad back. He expressed a desire to do some AP stuff. At the time, a year after I moved here, I had gotten into some supplemental machine play, which I really didn't care much for. I only got into it because another Vegas AP, convinced me that not playing the "mailer game" and taking advantage of the casinos competing with each other for local players, was in effect, "leaving money on the table".
So first thing I did was teach him what I wanted done there. Just enough machine play to draw mailer amounts that made the whole experience +EV. He handled the play, but it was my money (bankroll) and we split all proceeds 50/50.
I also taught him to play blackjack....MY WAY. :) One of three people I have now taught, although one roommate was basically a bust. So my partner, could only play limited blackjack because he could not sit at the table that long. So I developed my own unique version of the traditional call in. Father/son role play. He would play at the table and count and when he signaled, I would come over and occasionally join him with bigger bets, but usually I would just come over and say "lets go eat" or something to that effect at which he would reply "after this shoe". I mean the shoe was at a strong +EV count, so we would be leaving anyway.
Then I would openly challenge him to bet more for the remainder of the (+EV) shoe. I would say something like, well if you are going to bet, at least bet some real money, sometimes even pushing his chips in the circle. I liked to say things like "you know you can't take it with you when you die". Dealers and pit folks frequently found this amusing and sometimes even joined in with me, encouraging him to bet more (in a strong +EV situation). That is how good the act was. :/ Then win or lose at the shuffle we were off to eat (or more likely another casino).
The act got old quick locally, so was limited, but we used it on trips, to REALLY ramp up bets, pretty successfully. So any money won from this version of call in partnership was split evenly as well. And over the years when I mentioned my winning, I only included my half from this play.
As far as driving. I didn't drive in my teens or 20's. Living in the center city of an east coast city like Philly, there was no need to drive. It actually was a hassle with expensive parking and all. Easier to get around on foot, bike, public transportation and when need be cab. So when I moved to Vegas, I still didn't drive. I lived walking distance to the strip and took the bus downtown. But during that first year, as I learned about the local casinos, like Stations, Boyd, Silverton, South Point etc, spread out all over town, it became clear to me this was a car-necessary town. I got my license, leased a car (a few months later, won a truck at South Point) and about this time, my partner had followed me to Vegas, and being that he was traveling around town with me, doing machine play and occasional blackjack partnership, he just sort of started handling all the driving.
For the hit and run style I had adopted, it didn't change my results, but did enable me to get in and out of casinos quicker, which was a big benefit. I paid the gas, and expenses on the vehicles. He drove, which he had to do anyway to do his machine play. He got free lunch every day. We never discussed that he should get a salary for driving. He got his share of the AP plays in which he participated. We were both happy with the arrangement, so it seems odd that you seem to have a problem with it. But if it makes you feel any better, when he passed I gave his adult kids (who he didn't have much of a relationship with) some money. More than he had to his name with his social security and half our AP play.
Anything else on your mind, BoSox?
Thank you. That was a very good post and a great summary of the time period. I would have said this yesterday but I was locked out as there is a daily post limit for new members for 30 days.
Quote: BoSoxThank you. That was a very good post and a great summary of the time period. I would have said this yesterday but I was locked out as there is a daily post limit for new members for 30 days.
Thank you for saying that BoSox. I hope that post limit is lifted soon, so you can waste more time online like the rest of us. Lol.
Pit boss: "You've raised too much. Go play a $25 table!"
Quote: kewljJust stop it!. Card counting is well known. Nothing new here. For every player that comes along and plays disciplined enough to win and has the bankroll and stomach to withstand the ugly variance of the game, there are 100 that try to play with an advantage and don't or can't.
Stories of a player winning are actually good for the casinos bottom line.
Really, Including giving 12 years of annual reports telling the internet world just how you outwit them yet again and again and again. When you started this thread and calling it my thread, you started the first post with a quote from me taken from the MDawg thread with your own follow-up. However, you conveniently left out the first paragraph
from each of us of my quote which I will include now:
March 20th, 2021 at 8:07:54 AM
Quote: kewlj
"I don't think it will come as any great surprise, that I too, disagree with the above, BoSox. I am where I am today, 18 years into advantage blackjack play because other professional and knowledgeable players didn't keep their mouth shut. They opened up and shared very valuable lessons along the way. Lessons that you don't learn in the many books."
BoSox
Yes without a doubt professional and knowledgeable players shared their knowledge which I am also very grateful for. I give plenty of that knowledge back that I previously learned. However, there is one part of KewlJ"s story that you will not find in the archives other than a very brief infrequent mention seldomly said. And that is giving annual reports of previous years' win/loss statements on the internet. Don't believe me check for yourself it is not there and for damn good self-explanatory reasons. Now in the present era name some other professional player who does report this information year in and year out? Not MDawg
Quote: BoSox
Turn on a BIG HUGE FLASHING NEON LIGHT stating as you enter vegas.
Casinos' managements are dumb and stupid and can be easily exploited. Rub it right in their face.
Then come right back on a forum and let the membership know how you share your journey and help them all out.
Sorry, I have never been impressed with any of this.
KewlJ's quote:
"As for "Rubbing anyone's face in it", nothing could be further from the truth. I respect those on the other side of the table / pit and show that respect by playing limits that are better tolerated and short sessions, together with lower limits that don't put these folks in a position that they have to answer for. THAT has been my whole game plan.
And the end result is most, not all, but most tend to look the other way. I am no problem for them and will be gone soon. And I will go even further that that, some pit folks, I even have a pretty decent relationship with. Mostly just friendly small talk, but it is not like waring fractions.
And I probably shouldn't mention this, but one guy at a place know as very sweaty that I play frequently, several years ago when I returned to play after my heart surgery, he told me he was glad to see me and had been praying for me. I play unrated there and wasn't sure he even knew who I was. Obviously he read my situation on one of the forums, but what a very decent man and attitude, proving no one is at war with anyone."
BoSox:
The politically correct reply would be said in the following manner.
Your claims are not proven true beyond a reasonable doubt.
I suppose saying the following "I did not fall off the turnip truck yesterday" would be an underlining implication so I won't say that.
Let's touch on your above quote. You walk into some casino and sit down and begin to play without any buy-in and the new floor guy says to the pit boss did you see that that guy sitting at table 3 seat 3 he just sat down and pulled chips right out of his pocket. Boss says yes I saw it but don't be concerned with him he is just a good guy and not a problem. Every month he comes here on the 12th and the 27th of the month for years now and plays for a half hour or so and then heads for the front door only to be picked up immediately upon exiting. The strange thing is the man has a pretty good impressive record of wins on us but his luck will run out one day. Let me introduce you
to him as we are now on first name greeting terms.
I hope that everyone is now wearing hip waders while stepping in the pigpen. I have to take that back because it is not politically correct. Just how the hell can one member insult another when all you can say is claims are not proven true beyond a reasonable doubt? I am in grade school now and will try to say to KJ that I think that he is full of Bull crap which is only an implication meaning that not all of his claims are proven true beyond a reasonable doubt. Goodness gracious I should say not.
Quote: BoSox
The politically correct reply would be said in the following manner.
Your claims are not proven true beyond a reasonable doubt.
I suppose saying the following "I did not fall off the turnip truck yesterday" would be an underlining implication so I won't say that.
Let's touch on your above quote. You walk into some casino and sit down and begin to play without any buy-in and the new floor guy says to the pit boss did you see that that guy sitting at table 3 seat 3 he just sat down and pulled chips right out of his pocket. Boss says yes I saw it but don't be concerned with him he is just a good guy and not a problem. Every month he comes here on the 12th and the 27th of the month for years now and plays for a half hour or so and then heads for the front door only to be picked up immediately upon exiting. The strange thing is the man has a pretty good impressive record of wins on us but his luck will run out one day. Let me introduce you
to him as we are now on first name greeting terms.
I hope that everyone is now wearing hip waders while stepping in the pigpen. I have to take that back because it is not politically correct. Just how the hell can one member insult another when all you can say is claims are not proven true beyond a reasonable doubt? I am in grade school now and will try to say to KJ that I think that he is full of Bull crap which is only an implication meaning that not all of his claims are proven true beyond a reasonable doubt. Goodness gracious I should say not.
I must say, I found this post rather distasteful, both the timing, posting it when I was suspended and could not respond, as well as the content, which in my opinion shows an ongoing effort by you to discredit me. Because we have always gotten along pretty well on various forums, not long ago, I asked you what your problem was. You were kind enough to respond honestly that you didn't like the way I challenged and my participation in the Rob Singer situation. (I think I can mention that person here, since there is a "discuss Rob Singer thread", as well as the interview with Wizard and Singer last year). So it seems because you don't like that, you have set out to discredit me. So I am going to respond to a couple things wrong in this post that you stated, and then I am done with you BoSox. You are just not worth my engaging with anymore.
On my 12 years of sharing my results at the end of the year, that you find so objectionable: I decided long ago, to share as much of my experiences as I could, as a mid level professional card counter. That HAS to include results. At a time when the movie "21" had just come out and there were stories and videos of various teams and players running around the country, playing a 'slash and burn', high stakes style, claiming wins of 300k, 400k, half a million a year for 6 months to a year before they were banned everywhere, I wanted to show just what a midlevel player, playing stakes better tolerated with an eye towards longevity could make. And that number is 75-80k range in expectation. Actual results vary by variance, which I have also shown by sharing my experiences and results.
You said "what other player does this?" On sites that you and I have both been on, come January, there is often a thread started entitled something like "tally up time" or "20?? results" where members share their results for the year. So I don't know what your issue is. Now many share results in terms of units, as I did for a couple years, but that only serves to be confusing. Besides players playing different units, there are different definitions of 'unit'. Many players define unit as their smaller wager. I think that came from books from the 80's like Wong's where he had a benchmark unit of $10 and raised by that same increment. My definition of unit is the wager that I place at .5% advantage, (true count of +2 for most games) and increase by that same unit until I hit max bet. This is NOT my minimum wager. A minimum wager is just that...minimum wager and a fraction of the unit. To give credit, I call this definition the Munchkin/bigplayer definition because those are the two players I learned it from.
So as an example, lets say a player made 45k in a particular year. If he talks in "code" of units, a player playing a $25 minimum wager and calling that his unit won 1800 units. Now I and my Munchkin/bigplayer definition of unit, made 450 units. That would be 2 players playing the exact same stakes but defining unit VERY differently. Meanwhile a player playing lower stakes, and making the same amount, might have won 4500 units. But all the SAME 45k won. So rather than try to decode everyone, I just used actual dollars, because that is what we are really talking about. And I have done so for good and bad years for clarity. Sorry if you find my clarity objectionable.
Next, chip inventory: You mock my playing with a chip inventory. I am guessing you don't. You might want to consider doing so for casinos that you visit regularly. A chip inventory was something I learned from the aforementioned "bigplayer" who is a 30 (maybe 40 now) year professional player and member of one of the top blackjack teams. A chip inventory allows a player to enter the game without that first interaction with pit and sometimes with a short session style, avoid ANY interaction with pit. If you don't understand the advantage of this, I don't know what to tell you....look into it before you mock it.
And finally, you closed with a statement that you think I am full of crap. First I don't believe that. I think you said that to try to hurt and discredit me. I always say "it doesn't take much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". I don't believe that after years of participating on the same forums, you have concluded that I "am just talking". But if you have, I am fine with that. That is your choice to make.
Quote: kewljI must say, I found this post rather distasteful, both the timing, posting it when I was suspended and could not respond, as well as the content, which in my opinion shows an ongoing effort by you to discredit me. Because we have always gotten along pretty well on various forums, not long ago, I asked you what your problem was. You were kind enough to respond honestly that you didn't like the way I challenged and my participation in the Rob Singer situation. (I think I can mention that person here, since there is a "discuss Rob Singer thread", as well as the interview with Wizard and Singer last year). So it seems because you don't like that, you have set out to discredit me. So I am going to respond to a couple things wrong in this post that you stated, and then I am done with you BoSox. You are just not worth my engaging with anymore.
Replying while you were suspended, I suppose that is on you. Why does one need to wait for a 5-day suspension to end on your behalf before making a post?
Our discussions on Singer did not take place on this board and I intend to keep it that way. Besides that has nothing to do with a long-time ongoing disagreement between us pertaining to your sharing the journey yearly update.
No big deal in that you think that you are helping people out. And I think you contribute in whatever small way to the ever-increasing table house percentages in Los Vegas with your internet journey. We have argued the point for years now. You think that casinos love the publicity. The Problem yes they love it like slot jackpots, but not consistently winning blackjack players in their house. Yes, they do not know what Vegas casinos' that you play but them reading about it is always a wake-up call to make sure that any possible hole is cleaned uptight as paranoia overtakes them. All of this is a matter of principle to them, and no expense is too much to solve the problem.
Quote: kewlj
You said "what other player does this?" On sites that you and I have both been on, come January, there is often a thread started entitled something like "tally up time" or "20?? results" where members share their results for the year. So I don't know what your issue is.
The only people who post this information are you and possibly a few Nickle players who do not know better. Surely no real professional does this kind of stunt.
Quote: kewlj
Next, chip inventory: You mock my playing with a chip inventory. I am guessing you don't. You might want to consider doing so for casinos that you visit regularly.
That was a misinterpretation on your part. I have no problem with it as I also do some of that especially late last summer when there were some late closing casino curfews. I was just having a little fun with you for having someone else doing the chip inventory for you.
Quote: kewlj
And finally, you closed with a statement that you think I am full of crap. First I don't believe that. I think you said that to try to hurt and discredit me.
I will be the first to admit that some of the things that you say "like off the top of my head" pit bosses ignoring you or turning their head because they know that you will be shortly gone and them thinking that you do not want to hurt them where they have to answer for it, later on, I groan.
Aside from all that there were quite a few years where I backed you in all kinds of battles much more than anyone else did.
