lilredrooster
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January 21st, 2021 at 3:23:47 AM permalink
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and elsewhere in NYC
right now looks doubtful
lots of opposition - tough battle with legislators



https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/nyregion/casino-manhattan-nyc.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage
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DJTeddyBear
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January 21st, 2021 at 5:32:15 AM permalink
It痴 a new article about old news. You壇 think the day after the inauguration wouldn稚 be a slow news day. Whatever.

NY Times has a pay wall, and only shows a few sentences. Here痴 one of them:
Quote: NYT

The concept is hardly new.

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lilredrooster
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January 21st, 2021 at 7:26:53 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear



NY Times has a pay wall, and only shows a few sentences.




if you got stopped by their paywall it means you already read one their stories for the month (I think it's a month)


their paywall, and every other newspaper paywall I've ever encountered can easily be beat by clearing your history and cookies
they don't track your IP address


if you need something that's in your history you can just bookmark it



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billryan
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January 21st, 2021 at 7:34:39 AM permalink
Times Square is some of the most expensive real estate in the country and would be a horrible place for a casino
lilredrooster
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January 21st, 2021 at 8:15:20 AM permalink
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Times Square is some of the most expensive real estate in the country and would be a horrible place for a casino




yes, and it makes one wonder how all those little joints that are there survive
they must have to do a ton of business just to make rent



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January 21st, 2021 at 8:55:53 AM permalink
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yes, and it makes one wonder how all those little joints that are there survive
they must have to do a ton of business just to make rent



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It's precisely because a ton of business is there that the prices are so high.

Catskills Casino upstate is in a lush dense wood surrounded by nothing but miles and miles of trees and a highway and has a monopoly on gambling for 90 minutes in either direction.

Catskills Casino is doing terrible business month after month!

Where would you rather build a casino? The dense woods where no one passes by generally or Times Square where the crowds are shoulder to shoulder on any given day?
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January 21st, 2021 at 9:11:44 AM permalink
A long time reason for casino success was the lack of competition. Las Vegs. Then Nevada, then Atlantic City, and then Foxwoods, adding Mohegan.

Nowadays there's a casino on every street corner, whether in a densely populated metropolis or deep in the forest.

The casino business as an industry is always going to be profitable since the built-in house edge in every game pretty much guarantees it. But flooding the market with so many properties allows for customer choice. Government (that is TAXING) authorities figured that if we build it they will come. But not when everybody does it.

A casino in Manhattan would be profitable due to the traffic passing by. But those folks will just stop going to Connecticut, New Jersey, or upstate. Net increase of gambling revenue would be near zero.
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January 21st, 2021 at 9:53:30 AM permalink
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Nowadays there's a casino on every street corner, whether in a densely populated metropolis or deep in the forest.

authorities figured that if we build it they will come. But not when everybody does it.

Net increase of gambling revenue would be near zero.




you have a point but casinos are far from everywhere
Georgia, Hawaii, South Carolina, Vermont, Virginia, New Hampshire, Kentucky and Utah do not have land based or tribal casinos

I'm in Maryland but I would have to drive about an hour to get to a casino - in some states I'm sure residents would have to drive much further

a person who does not want to drive to a casino who lives in NYC will be much more likely to visit one if it's a half hour or less trip for him

just as if you are in a state where recreational marijuana is legal, many near one of those stores would be much more likely to be a user then if they weren't near such a store and had to hustle to find the stuff

so, I don't think the net increase of revenue would be near zero
but some of the older joints might lose a significant amount of business
but I think quite a bit more would be gained than what was lost

before Covid, Atlantic City had rebounded - despite fierce competition from PA and Maryland which represented a lot of their customer base

a great many predicted the downfall of Vegas when A.C. got rolling - didn't happen




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January 21st, 2021 at 11:09:37 AM permalink
I imagine that cash strapped New York City just wants a piece of the action. How it would effect other casinos upstate or in other states is the least of their concerns.
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January 21st, 2021 at 11:14:40 AM permalink
There is already a casino in NYC, and another one about a mile from the city border.

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