EvenBob
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RogerKint
November 21st, 2020 at 3:46:01 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

My county is ‘locking down’ tomorrow. Schools going all virtual. Restaurants only take out. But apparently MOST businesses will still be open. Another fake lockdown to look like something is being done.



This is Buffalo yesterday, patriots
standing up to the loss of their
businesses. The Enforcers trying
to break up a meeting of 50 local
business owners on private property.

"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
rsactuary
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November 21st, 2020 at 4:26:02 PM permalink
Good grief. Just because it's private property, doesn't mean laws don't apply. Send 'em to jail.
mcallister3200
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November 21st, 2020 at 4:29:25 PM permalink
I thought sending non violent offenders to jail was no bueno for stopping the spread of Covid? Which is it?
SOOPOO
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November 21st, 2020 at 4:58:45 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This is Buffalo yesterday, patriots
standing up to the loss of their
businesses. The Enforcers trying
to break up a meeting of 50 local
business owners on private property.



Thanks Bob. To me, the police response was pathetic. They had absolutely no plan! When they go in, they should state the law they believe is being broken, and alert the lawbreakers what the consequences will be. "Anyone not putting a mask on will be issued a ticket." Or... "anyone not leaving peacefully will be arrested for violating the Governor's executive order" Or... "please don't yell at us or we will cower in retreat..."

OOPS.... they chose the third....
Vegasrider
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November 21st, 2020 at 10:02:54 PM permalink
One of our state prisons in Nevada, 80 percent of the inmates and staff has tested positive. Being that it’s a state run facility, that is embarrassing. Our stupid governor has also tested positive. You would think any state run facilities would do a better job keeping the outbreak under control. Our governor shaming all Nevadans and so many businesses not adhering to all the mandates. LOL, look who’s doing the worse job.
racquet
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November 22nd, 2020 at 10:31:30 AM permalink
I think comparisons between COVID restrictions and either seat-belt or smoking restrictions do not work. People not wearing seatbelts do not cause other people to not wear seatbelts. That tendency does not spread. Same way with smoking. My smoking may harm me, and I guess you as well, second hand, but my smoking does not spread the "disease" of smoking among non-smokers. If I'm a smoker with COVID, you might catch the virus from me, but doubtful the insatiable desire to light up a Chesterfield.

Whatever the legality of restrictions imposed by an individual state, the concept has to be driven by state political boundaries, not by geography. The same goes for restrictions imposed by towns, cities, and counties. The mayors of two non-adjacent cities in RI have imposed lockdowns stricter than those in surrounding jurisdictions. The political boundaries of these two municipalities, in multiple instances, run down the center of a city street. One side of the street is locked down, and the other side of the street, in a less-restrictive neighboring city, is not. You can eat, drink and be merry on only the even-numbered buildings of a street, but not on the odd-numbered locations on the other side of the street.

Can no one admit the absurdity of suggesting that it makes sense to restrict activity on one side of the Hudson River in upstate New York from activity on the other? Or that it's not ridiculous to place barriers on the bridges over the Hudson so as to enforce such rules?

Where are we? In East Berlin? Can we expect to read about folks tunneling under the Hudson on their way to freedom?
TDVegas
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November 22nd, 2020 at 10:33:57 AM permalink
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I am hoping the casinos will stay open and they restrict eating, drinking, and smoking on the casino floor and require 100% mask use at all times.


Nice thought and probably a good idea. Never happen. If this Governor didn’t accept the potential for spread and ban smoking months ago....he’s not going to now. Casino bosses will never agree to a smoking ban, even short term.
kewlj
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November 22nd, 2020 at 10:56:26 AM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

Nice thought and probably a good idea. Never happen. If this Governor didn’t accept the potential for spread and ban smoking months ago....he’s not going to now. Casino bosses will never agree to a smoking ban, even short term.



If the choice is staying open with smoking ban and restaurants and bars closed, vs closing casinos entirely, they will accept the smoking ban short term.
coilman
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November 22nd, 2020 at 11:09:12 AM permalink
Quote: racquet

I think comparisons between COVID restrictions and either seat-belt or smoking restrictions do not work. People not wearing seatbelts do not cause other people to not wear seatbelts. That tendency does not spread. Same way with smoking. My smoking may harm me, and I guess you as well, second hand, but my smoking does not spread the "disease" of smoking among non-smokers. If I'm a smoker with COVID, you might catch the virus from me, but doubtful the insatiable desire to light up a Chesterfield.

Whatever the legality of restrictions imposed by an individual state, the concept has to be driven by state political boundaries, not by geography. The same goes for restrictions imposed by towns, cities, and counties. The mayors of two non-adjacent cities in RI have imposed lockdowns stricter than those in surrounding jurisdictions. The political boundaries of these two municipalities, in multiple instances, run down the center of a city street. One side of the street is locked down, and the other side of the street, in a less-restrictive neighboring city, is not. You can eat, drink and be merry on only the even-numbered buildings of a street, but not on the odd-numbered locations on the other side of the street.

Can no one admit the absurdity of suggesting that it makes sense to restrict activity on one side of the Hudson River in upstate New York from activity on the other? Or that it's not ridiculous to place barriers on the bridges over the Hudson so as to enforce such rules?

Where are we? In East Berlin? Can we expect to read about folks tunneling under the Hudson on their way to freedom?



Canada just announced borders closed till.... https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2020/11/20/us-canada-border-closure-covid/

Which sucks for a guy I know with cancer. https://www.gofundme.com/f/cancer-treatment-access-amid-self-isolation-order?pc=fb_co_emailupdate24&rcid=r01-160574166172-1e9d38cefd904432&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=p_email%2B3201-24hr-reminder-v5&fbclid=IwAR3Aez6nN9Fs3LMvA7C3d8ENiUOrHvDxLFGLjzfNM4r3yRk4dBaGb4xAyDo

Toronto on 28 day at least shutdown
AZDuffman
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November 22nd, 2020 at 1:17:52 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO



Thanks Bob. To me, the police response was pathetic. They had absolutely no plan! When they go in, they should state the law they believe is being broken, and alert the lawbreakers what the consequences will be. "Anyone not putting a mask on will be issued a ticket." Or... "anyone not leaving peacefully will be arrested for violating the Governor's executive order" Or... "please don't yell at us or we will cower in retreat..."

OOPS.... they chose the third....



What happened was a version of the scene in "Tombstone" after the shootout and they tell the sheriff "I don't think I will let you arrest us today."

Some business owners, bothering nobody, and Karen calls the cops. who decide to hassle them. To meet like this is a Constitutional right. The cops knew if they arrested them they (cops) would come out on the wrong side of it as far as PR goes. They are fighting for their livelyhood and the cops are going to issue a mask ticket?
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