NCarolinaJoe
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July 17th, 2020 at 3:47:49 PM permalink
Is there a statistical advantage or advantage of any kind waiting until the last minute to register for a 1 table No limit Holdem sit n go? I found a game that allows late registration for 1 hour.
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July 17th, 2020 at 4:13:47 PM permalink
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Is there a statistical advantage or advantage of any kind waiting until the last minute to register for a 1 table No limit Holdem sit n go? I found a game that allows late registration for 1 hour.



If you enter that late you are going up against monster stacks most likely. And that means you being bluffed out of your possibly lower than average stack. Your racing to climbing a mountain that people are almost already at the top. I really canít do the math but Iíll tell you that This is the exact problem Iím working on right now. Except Iím going for high prices and fairly low payouts relative to their equally priced counterparts because I believe that those have the least amount of incentive to play. Itís like Iím targeting a fat chick in a group of friends that I know I have the best chance with.
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July 17th, 2020 at 7:30:30 PM permalink
I donít understand. Single table/sit and go, generally waitS until the tables full, and then begins, with no additional or late entries. Thatís what Ďsit and goí means.
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NCarolinaJoe
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July 17th, 2020 at 7:39:49 PM permalink
This game does not blind you out during first hour
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July 18th, 2020 at 6:13:15 AM permalink
Then itís not a sit and go. Sounds more like a regular tournament with very low attendance.

Analysis for that game would be no different than a multi table tournament with late registration.
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July 18th, 2020 at 9:13:09 AM permalink
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I donít understand. Single table/sit and go, generally waitS until the tables full, and then begins, with no additional or late entries. Thatís what Ďsit and goí means.



i missed that part. damn my severe add i cant even read an entire sentence correctly... and PS now has sit-n-go BOUNTY TOURNAMENTS.. which i think hes talking about.

only thing that doesnt make sense is that in these tournaments they require 18 people to register at least in my jurisdiction and they are multi tables... so hmmmm
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July 18th, 2020 at 10:56:47 AM permalink
Many live tournaments allow late entry. Top pros often enter a major tournament late - just to keep fatigue at a minimum.

I have registered for a small online tournament about 15 minutes after it started. There were 28 players and one was already gone by the time I registered. Yeah, there were a couple of players who had almost doubled their stack but I never felt at a disadvantage.

Maybe you miss getting dealt AA against KK within the first few minutes. But you may also be the player that get KK vs AA! or gets a set vs a higher set. You eliminate some variability -good and bad- by entering late.

Most players enter on time, partly because they feel that the joy of playing is what they are paying for.
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July 18th, 2020 at 9:37:52 PM permalink
the only advantage ive been told to look for when entering late is if the amount of chips you are getting is bigger than the average stack
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July 19th, 2020 at 8:56:31 AM permalink
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the only advantage ive been told to look for when entering late is if the amount of chips you are getting is bigger than the average stack

The only way that would happen is if there is an optional add-on which most players didnít take and there were very few knockouts.

If there is no add-on, and no knockouts, then the average stack size is the same as the initial stack.

The only possible advantage is if itís a bounty tournament, and there are a lot of short stack players that you ban pick off and get their bounty. But remember, youíre coming in at a disadvantage, and look like another short stack bounty to the big stack players.
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July 22nd, 2020 at 6:58:01 AM permalink
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the only advantage ive been told to look for when entering late is if the amount of chips you are getting is bigger than the average stack



Maybe what is being referred to is this:

If you skip the first one or two levels of a tournament you will usually find that over 50% of the players have stacks that are smaller than the buy-in. Few people have been knocked out and many people will be at 60-90% of their starting stack. Of course, there will be a smaller fraction of the field that will have significantly large stacks.

So I think heatmap's statement is correct if you take "average stack" to mean "median stack."
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