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April 15th, 2020 at 12:00:29 PM permalink
When times are tough, and the sky is cloudy, nothing warms the soul like a grilled cheese sandwich. After years of rarely imbibing, it's become a staple of my diet in recent years.
So I was surprised when a saw a recipe that called for cooking two slices of bread with cheese side by side. When the cheese is starting to bubble , you remove and join the two sides together.
I've always made a sandwich, cooked one side and then flipped it. Now the hardest part of cooking is getting both sides grilled the same, and this new method would eliminate that, but it also reduces cooking capacity by half.
I've had open faced grilled cheese in the past but never seen them combined into a regular sandwich. Is this common?
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April 15th, 2020 at 12:11:46 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

When times are tough, and the sky is cloudy, nothing warms the soul like a grilled cheese sandwich. After years of rarely imbibing, it's become a staple of my diet in recent years.
So I was surprised when a saw a recipe that called for cooking two slices of bread with cheese side by side. When the cheese is starting to bubble , you remove and join the two sides together.
I've always made a sandwich, cooked one side and then flipped it. Now the hardest part of cooking is getting both sides grilled the same, and this new method would eliminate that, but it also reduces cooking capacity by half.
I've had open faced grilled cheese in the past but never seen them combined into a regular sandwich. Is this common?



Common in eateries due to time saved, and the huge griddle they have to work with. They do put a lid on them after they combine it to help the cheese stick together.

I cook them like you do, but after I flip, I cover them to let the heat fuse it together.
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April 15th, 2020 at 12:28:59 PM permalink
OK, I'm hungry now! :)

Q: Butter or mayonnaise (or something else) for the bread? I used to be a butter guy, but mayo is so easy to spread evenly. So, I transitioned due mainly to convenience.
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April 15th, 2020 at 12:31:33 PM permalink
Bachelor’s style. Toast two bread slices in a toaster. Optional: butter slices after removing them from toaster. Make a sandwich with cheese and mustard. Microwave for 20 seconds. Slice and consume. (If you use a napkin or paper towel instead of a plate there is less to clean up.)

Edit: Clarified that buttering is done AFTER toasting. Most folks would take that for granted, but ...
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April 15th, 2020 at 12:46:36 PM permalink
I make them same as Billryan and BBB, but I like to put a tea kettle on top of the bread to press it down. Like a poor man’s panini maker.

What are people’s favorite cheese(s)?
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April 15th, 2020 at 1:39:12 PM permalink
As an AP, I refuse to purchase Swiss cheese.

Too many holes when other cheeses come in full slices

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April 15th, 2020 at 3:11:42 PM permalink
The best way:
Butter a piece of bread and put in a non stick pan butter side down.. On the dry side of the bread add cheese. When the cheese melts on top you flip it over so the cheese is down on the pan. When the cheese browns to a light crust it is done. It will not stick because of the oil (fat) in the cheese. Try it and it will become a staple food.
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April 15th, 2020 at 3:16:33 PM permalink
When you can't go eat whatever and wherever you want, you eat what you can and what wasn't good enough to bother with before. I'd never eat as much PB&J sandwiches and hot cereal, but you get bored with the alternatives. On the topic of grilled cheese, I prefer provolone as an adult. American cheese just scares me. I look at it like it's poison.
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April 15th, 2020 at 3:38:29 PM permalink
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When you can't go eat whatever and wherever you want, you eat what you can and what wasn't good enough to bother with before. I'd never eat as much PB&J sandwiches and hot cereal, but you get bored with the alternatives. On the topic of grilled cheese, I prefer provolone as an adult. American cheese just scares me. I look at it like it's poison.



I prefer a smoked cheese on my grilled cheese sandwiches.
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April 15th, 2020 at 5:02:24 PM permalink
Gruyère If someone else is buying. Otherwise, American cheese-like slices individually wrapped. Hasn’t killed me yet. White or orange will do. Discounted day-old bread is fine.
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April 15th, 2020 at 5:47:27 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

When you can't go eat whatever and wherever you want, you eat what you can and what wasn't good enough to bother with before. I'd never eat as much PB&J sandwiches and hot cereal, but you get bored with the alternatives. On the topic of grilled cheese, I prefer provolone as an adult. American cheese just scares me. I look at it like it's poison.



American cheese has sodium citrate added to help it melt, that’s all. Nothing to be afraid of. It’s still cheese.

I like tomatoes and bacon on my grilled cheese sandwich. I use cheddar cheese, I add garlic powder, and I do it sandwich style: bread, cheese, tomato, garlic powder, bacon, cheese, bread. I use butter instead of mayo, but that’s because I never remember that I can use mayo. Served with soup and a dill pickle.

Also, any cheese in the cheddar family works. That includes jack cheeses, American, Cooper sharp, brick cheese, Dubliner, etc.

Also, I have a cheese problem. I love almost all cheeses. So, I buy different cheeses, sometimes just to see how they taste. But I’m never hungry enough to eat them all. Right now I have Dubliner, Cooper sharp, Asiago, mimolette, Mull of Kinshire cheddar, Emmental, Fontina, and of course Parmesan and Romano.
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April 15th, 2020 at 6:06:22 PM permalink
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When times are tough, and the sky is cloudy, nothing warms the soul like a grilled cheese sandwich.


My God! What timing!
After years avoiding cheese and other dairy products and getting my weight down, walking sidewalks each morning, etc. the quacks put me on a massive eggs/cheese/milk/butter/pasta diet and insisted I stay on it after discharge. So I ballooned up 85 pounds! Can barely walk at all, ... and I'm transitioning back to high fiber Lentils and trying to get off the Deadly Dairy diet.
And what do I find? A thread about what used to be one of my favorite items, even before the days of having to use Food Bank Cheese to make them! I grew up on Velveeta "cheese", thought it was great stuff to make sandwiches of it, even for dinner!

Fortunately, Meals On Wheels provides me with enough decent food to make up for the endless stream of awful-tasting Lentils.
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April 15th, 2020 at 6:13:12 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

American cheese has sodium citrate added to help it melt, that’s all. Nothing to be afraid of. It’s still cheese.

I like tomatoes and bacon on my grilled cheese sandwich. I use cheddar cheese, I add garlic powder, and I do it sandwich style: bread, cheese, tomato, garlic powder, bacon, cheese, bread. I use butter instead of mayo, but that’s because I never remember that I can use mayo. Served with soup and a dill pickle.

Also, any cheese in the cheddar family works. That includes jack cheeses, American, Cooper sharp, brick cheese, Dubliner, etc.

Also, I have a cheese problem. I love almost all cheeses. So, I buy different cheeses, sometimes just to see how they taste. But I’m never hungry enough to eat them all. Right now I have Dubliner, Cooper sharp, Asiago, mimolette, Mull of Kinshire cheddar, Emmental, Fontina, and of course Parmesan and Romano.

I know it's almost a phobia and an irrational aversion. That's just how I feel, I'm kind of terrified looking at the cheese wrapped in plastic.
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April 15th, 2020 at 6:38:30 PM permalink
When I used white bread, grilled cheese had to be sliced diagonally, but now that I use rye or sour dough I generally don't cut it.
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April 15th, 2020 at 7:53:35 PM permalink
I think I buy sliced cheese by weight, so the holes in Swiss cheese save me money!

;-)

I think I primarily have provolone on sandwiches, with mozzarella second place and Swiss third.
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April 15th, 2020 at 8:22:38 PM permalink
Grilled HAM and cheese. For some reason I like it with sweet pickles, maybe that's because it cuts the salt from the ham. When I'm out of sweet pickles I use sweet relish.
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April 15th, 2020 at 8:48:16 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

As an AP, I refuse to purchase Swiss cheese.

Too many holes when other cheeses come in full slices

:)



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April 16th, 2020 at 3:22:55 AM permalink
Mayo, cast iron grill pan. 1/4 turn on each side to give you diamond grill marks.
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April 16th, 2020 at 6:01:56 AM permalink
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Grilled HAM and cheese.

Yes!

Years ago, Hardee's (Carl's Jr. out there) came out with their "Frisco Breakfast Sandwich," which was essentially a grilled ham and cheese with egg on sourdough. They were incredible! I wasn't much into fast food breakfast at the time, but those things got me addicted!

However, just like all good things, the quality has dropped off over the years. Primarily, they stopped grilling the bread (at least to my satisfacton). The first ones I had, the bread was grilled to a nice crispy golden brown, but lately (actually it's been a year or so since I had one), the bread is soggy!

Grilled ham & cheese on crispy grilled bread is heaven. Soggy 'grilled' ham & cheese is almost inedible.
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April 16th, 2020 at 7:16:06 AM permalink
It might not be to everyone's taste, but I've been using a garlic butter spread Safeway sells and it greatly enhances the taste of the sandwich.
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April 16th, 2020 at 7:16:16 AM permalink
It might not be to everyone's taste, but I've been using a garlic butter spread Safeway sells and it greatly enhances the taste of the sandwich.
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April 16th, 2020 at 7:18:20 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Grilled HAM and cheese. For some reason I like it with sweet pickles, maybe that's because it cuts the salt from the ham. When I'm out of sweet pickles I use sweet relish.


Hot ham and cheese has been a staple for me during quarantine.

Kaiser Roll, spicy mustard, ham, and smoked Gouda. Wrap it in foil and pop it in a 400 degree oven for 10-15 mins.

It’s fantastic with any cheese but smoked Gouda takes it to a whole different level
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April 16th, 2020 at 7:20:43 AM permalink
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It might not be to everyone's taste, but I've been using a garlic butter spread Safeway sells and it greatly enhances the taste of the sandwich.

Actually, that sounds really good. I'll have to try it!
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April 16th, 2020 at 7:22:52 AM permalink
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It might not be to everyone's taste, but I've been using a garlic butter spread Safeway sells and it greatly enhances the taste of the sandwich.



My wife does that and then she sprinkles Parmesan cheese on the outside before grilling it. It is an excellent sandwich.
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April 16th, 2020 at 8:02:53 AM permalink
I'll do either, but I prefer a ham and cheese, (no friggin pickles or relish though).

Binion's used to have a great ham and cheese sandwich when they had the original grill.

Well, it appears they still do:
http://www.binions.com/pdf/dining/cafe_menu.pdf
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April 16th, 2020 at 8:27:08 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

As an AP, I refuse to purchase Swiss cheese.

Too many holes when other cheeses come in full slices

:)


Start buying Baby Swiss. It's made with a different process then either aged Swiss or regular Swiss, has tiny bubbles and a milder flavor.
Then just before you take the sandwich out of the skillet, put a couple spoonfuls of shredded cheddar next to the sandwich so that it melts and slightly burns in the bottom of the pan, like a cheesy skirt.
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April 16th, 2020 at 10:18:28 AM permalink
Quote: zippyboy

Start buying Baby Swiss. It's made with a different process then either aged Swiss or regular Swiss, has tiny bubbles and a milder flavor.
Then just before you take the sandwich out of the skillet, put a couple spoonfuls of shredded cheddar next to the sandwich so that it melts and slightly burns in the bottom of the pan, like a cheesy skirt.



Baby Swiss is probably my favorite cheese.
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April 16th, 2020 at 10:23:17 AM permalink
Ever tried Buffalo Mozzarella? Its not easy to find in Vegas
I like a slice of swiss, some parmesan sprinkles ,and a slice of mozzarella.
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April 16th, 2020 at 2:01:36 PM permalink
You know times are slow when a grilled cheese sandwich gets 3 pages on a gambling forum !!
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April 16th, 2020 at 2:24:45 PM permalink
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You know times are slow when a grilled cheese sandwich gets 3 pages on a gambling forum !!



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April 16th, 2020 at 9:17:42 PM permalink
Take Brie cheese, and put it on crackers. Briefly heat (microwave or oven) the crackers until the Brie is warm and a bit gooey, and then put some Mint Jelly on top of the Brie on each cracker. I use apple mint jelly.

It is heaven. Really.
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April 29th, 2020 at 10:13:25 AM permalink
I think it’s normal, I do something similar with cheese. I toast it, then I add it to the bread in order to mix it and finish putting the filling in a small electric oven for a few minutes. It is something similar to the French toast process, which I considered that is another recipe very tasty.
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