DRich
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March 17th, 2020 at 3:03:53 PM permalink
Quote: rawtuff

Well, if everyone had the same reasoning as you and the governments did nothing to contain and slow the contagion the number of infected would grow exponentially until about 70% of the population is infected and either die or recover and build the needed herd immunity for the rest still uninfected to be protected. Current mortality rate for COVID19 is about 3.5% so that means about 2.5% of the total population would've died. That's 1 in 40, so you'd have about what, 38% chance at least one of your closest people die. Not sure if that's right. But majority of people have maybe about 40-50 people close to them - relatives and close friends. So on average every single person would have lost a dear one in that scenario. But I'm not icluding all those that would die due to unavailability of proper medical care because of the total health care system collapse that would have followed. So the chances are much higher actually.

Luckily not everyone has the same reasoning as you.



I am not saying that we should do nothing, I am just saying that I am enjoying the drama.
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March 17th, 2020 at 3:08:45 PM permalink
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This. Is. Not. "the flu". The flu itself is already warped in its meaning where any bubble gut or period of unrest is "bit of the flu". He made it a point to remind folks that the actual flu is no "little". It's 8hrs of scared you're gonna die followed by 24 where you wish you would. It kills tens of thousands. The word's been so bastardized it means almost nothing, and so using it in relation to Covid is idiocy of the highest order. There is no vax, like with the flu. There's no history of wtf is gonna happen to you a month a year a decade from now, like the flu. Assuming you survive the flu, about your only side effect is being 20lbs lighter. With this, the side effect might be permanent loss of 20% of your lung function. Not to be alarmist, but if you're using these terms, you yourself are a danger to you and everyone around you.

emphasis mine. Wizard, and those of your ilk, are you listening?

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rawtuff
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March 17th, 2020 at 3:09:47 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I am not saying that we should do nothing, I am just saying that I am enjoying the drama.



Oh, many are. But when it hits their own home and the chances are huge that it will even with all the measures, then it's not that enjoyable anymore.
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March 17th, 2020 at 3:51:44 PM permalink
If people want to have semi-normal business, like say a restaurant. Patronize your restaurant of choice but realize after capacity is possibly as low as 1/3 you should plan to carry it out. And space out your lines outside. But restaurants with reservation systems should use them and those without should see if they can to keep traffic modulated.

In fact places that don't normally do appointments should probably use them.
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DRich
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March 17th, 2020 at 4:14:24 PM permalink
Quote: rawtuff

Oh, many are. But when it hits their own home and the chances are huge that it will even with all the measures, then it's not that enjoyable anymore.



I expect to be out of a job in 2 or 3 days so it will definitely be hitting me financially.
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March 17th, 2020 at 5:00:36 PM permalink
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You are welcome to your opinion, but, I'm with Bill here. PT Barnum was great at diverting people's attention. Your attention seems diverted so far from the world I see, that the Barnum reference is timely. Timely as an observation only (not as a personal insult). So please help me. I don't understand what kind of proof you need to take the pandemic seriously?

Italy is in lock-down, and most of Europe is following. IIRC, China was on full lock-down for a while, too. Wait another week, and you may see this country going all-in on an American-style version of "National Shutdown."

Some WoV members -- including the WoO himself -- said this scare wouldn't shut the Las Vegas casinos. But, today: all shut down, right? It is very easy to catch the virus, and some casino staff already test positive. If we guess wrong about the pandemic, overwhelmed Las Vegas medical facilities might be doing C-virus triage in tents all summer.

Is this "media-scare vs real crisis" still a 50-50 proposition for you? Are there any facts to support such "balance" when faced with all that is happening?

Please take the pandemic seriously.

I'm not the one saying I believe it, I'm saying what if? What is the 1% or less possibility I'm saying. Everything is going to be closed, food might be hard to come by, the casinos are going to be closed where people could withdraw large sums of US cash, everyone will be huddled inside their houses with little contact to the outside world unless the internet and cell networks go out. There is a possibility yet, this could be fake, because if it were fake or if it were real, it would be a great time to pull something big off. If there is this much contagion out there, Donald Trump almost has to get sick and so do many of the members of Congress. It's possible, all I'm saying.
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SOOPOO
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March 17th, 2020 at 5:09:01 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I must be completely heartless. I find this whole thing very interesting and entertaining. I haven't had this much fun with current events since the first Iraqi war. I will except a few hundred thousand deaths as the price for my entertainment.



Maybe time for a suspension for me. Your posts have become more and more insensitive and repulsive.

Your disdain for the rest of the board members (and humanity in general) is disgusting.

I am asking you kindly to keep your sociopathic posts in your mind on not on this forum.
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March 17th, 2020 at 5:42:25 PM permalink
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Maybe time for a suspension for me. Your posts have become more and more insensitive and repulsive.

Your disdain for the rest of the board members (and humanity in general) is disgusting.

I am asking you kindly to keep your sociopathic posts in your mind on not on this forum.



DRich said somewhere, something like existence is meaningless or pointless. But I believe his response is backward. The ultimate challenge is to look into bleakness, blackness of meaninglessness and still want to go on.
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DRich
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March 17th, 2020 at 6:55:54 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Maybe time for a suspension for me. Your posts have become more and more insensitive and repulsive.

Your disdain for the rest of the board members (and humanity in general) is disgusting.

I am asking you kindly to keep your sociopathic posts in your mind on not on this forum.



Sorry if I upset you, I just don't place as much value on human life as others do. If I have said something suspension worthy I am sure I will be suspended.
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AxelWolf
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March 17th, 2020 at 6:57:20 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

DRich said somewhere, something like existence is meaningless or pointless. But I believe his response is backward. The ultimate challenge is to look into bleakness, blackness of meaninglessness and still want to go on.

I texted my niece who's in her early 20 and Pregnant and lives in Las Vegas to see how she was doing and see if she has prepared and needed anything. She isn't working and her guy only makes $15 to $18 an hour.

I told her she should take the serious and think about storing food and other essential things and to let me know if she needed anything.

This is was her exact quote, " I've been watching the news and I'm well aware of what's going on, I don't think this will last long, everything is opening back up in a few weeks"

I asked her a few questions. How is it you think it'll magically just disappear in a couple weeks and they will the open everything up? Was my first question along with some others. It's been over an hour and she hasn't responded back.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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