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March 16th, 2020 at 9:36:27 PM permalink
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Finally I observed a woman entering the men's room at Bally's about ten feet ahead of me. I entered in time to see her going into a stall with her boyfriend. The center stall of three and I had to go so I wound up in the stall to their left.

It was obvious from the slurping noises and shadow movement she was giving him head



She obviously hasn’t reviewed the social distancing guidelines
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March 16th, 2020 at 9:51:54 PM permalink
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Or we should have a free market where nonsmokers don't support businesses that allow smoking,



Maybe their salute can be something combining a Nazi salute and the limp wrist of effeminate gays.
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March 16th, 2020 at 10:17:55 PM permalink
Well... my casinos are dumber than dirt. Last Thursday tables closed, Saturday 2/3 slots turned off so soon they should be closed right? Nope! tables reopening tomorrow smh 🤦‍♂️
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March 17th, 2020 at 1:29:52 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

She obviously hasn’t reviewed the social distancing guidelines

I'll have to give that one to you as post of the week.
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March 17th, 2020 at 1:34:05 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

Well... my casinos are dumber than dirt. Last Thursday tables closed, Saturday 2/3 slots turned off so soon they should be closed right? Nope! tables reopening tomorrow smh 🤦‍♂️

Don't worry about it, you got free healthcare. You're a healthy young guy, what's the worst happen? Considering All those nasty places you have been to and all the nasty things you've eaten I can't imagine you'll have too much of a problem. Heck, if you get sick, look on the bright side, you may even lose a couple pounds. 🤣
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 17th, 2020 at 2:15:40 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

...All the machines were being emptied systematically of cash. The bartender said they will be taking it all out not only for safety but to collect as much interest at the bank during the closure as possible. Not sure how reliable the bartender was. Sounds reasonable though...


Bartender high finance. What bank interest? In the past two weeks short term interest rates have fallen to almost 0%
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March 17th, 2020 at 3:10:06 AM permalink
There was some question a couple days back, so. This morning they confirmed all 13 MGM strip properties are closing, not just the MGM Grand. Wynn and Encode also closing. No other strip places for now announced.
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March 17th, 2020 at 3:55:27 AM permalink
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Are you sure about that? I remember, under the last administration, the "Wire Act" being relaxed or ignored. But was it definitively rejected? Are you sure a new administration couldn't stop it, if they felt like it for some reason? Say, perhaps, because Sheldon Adelson threw a hissy fit?



Nothing was passed to relax it as far as I heard. Per GambleOn Podcast which reports gaming news well it was at first not to be a factor and online poker would be nationwide if your state allowed it. Then some court noticed a problem and PA/NJ had to abandon their plans to unite it. This is important as online poker needs the biggest pools possible.

Last I heard it is still being worked at. Perhaps they can get it to where the internet is not a "wire" and let it proceed. The wire act is a classic case of making victimless crimes a crime so the current environment could allow to relax it. (management please do not take that as "political.")
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March 17th, 2020 at 4:41:11 AM permalink
Illinois casinos forced to shut down due to coronavirus for 2 weeks
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March 17th, 2020 at 5:00:57 AM permalink
Just read that IP and Beau Rivage in Biloxi, and Gold Strike in Tunica closed as of last night.
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March 17th, 2020 at 7:19:20 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

There was some question a couple days back, so. This morning they confirmed all 13 MGM strip properties are closing, not just the MGM Grand. Wynn and Encode also closing. No other strip places for now announced.



Cosmo announced it is closing.
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March 17th, 2020 at 8:06:14 AM permalink
Oklahoma casinos are finally shutting down until at least the end of the month.
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March 17th, 2020 at 8:29:41 AM permalink
Seems Nevada is going stupid by not having a consistent, mandatory approach to closing certain entities. Close the schools....where kids haven’t been susceptible, but leave open the casinos where older, susceptible people are at risk??

I don’t advocate open or close....but I do advocate being consistent.
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March 17th, 2020 at 8:49:20 AM permalink
Figured I might as well make a planned trip to Mystic Lake to grab freeplay and see what they were doing. Self-serve beverage stations are closed & about 1/2 of all machines were off. They had cordons staged to start to do...something. The folks I talked to said they were not yet planning to close and that their position is that they're immune from the governor's order that all entertainment venues close at 5pm today. Still, I've never seen it that dead there. It'd probably be worth it to close to the public and just consolidate maintenance and upgrades into the closed period.
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March 17th, 2020 at 8:54:49 AM permalink
Add Harrah's New Orleans and Harrah's Gulf Coast (Biloxi) to the list. Closed as of last night.
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March 17th, 2020 at 9:06:48 AM permalink
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Figured I might as well make a planned trip to Mystic Lake to grab freeplay and see what they were doing. Self-serve beverage stations are closed & about 1/2 of all machines were off. They had cordons staged to start to do...something. The folks I talked to said they were not yet planning to close and that their position is that they're immune from the governor's order that all entertainment venues close at 5pm today. Still, I've never seen it that dead there. It'd probably be worth it to close to the public and just consolidate maintenance and upgrades into the closed period.



At some point don't they also leave themselves vulnerable to a lawsuit

Let's say every casino Nationwide closes but one or two and then people get sick and can trace the infection to a worker at that property. Can't an argument be made they refused government orders to shut and spread the infection

Casinos are always susceptible to claims against them. I would think shutting down is self protection also
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March 17th, 2020 at 9:21:57 AM permalink
Mayor Goodman of Vegas orders all senior centers to close. Well, what the hell does she think a locals casino is during the week, mid day??

I object to the inconsistency, not the edict.
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March 17th, 2020 at 9:28:11 AM permalink
Once these casinos open back up you're gonna see some sweet deals being offered to all the whales in the world... Management's gonna need a few big wins to get back in the black!
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March 17th, 2020 at 9:34:26 AM permalink
let us know about sweet deals for minnows.
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March 17th, 2020 at 9:46:51 AM permalink
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Once these casinos open back up you're gonna see some sweet deals being offered to all the whales in the world... Management's gonna need a few big wins to get back in the black!



MDawg may actually have a chance at an AP play
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March 17th, 2020 at 9:50:13 AM permalink
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Once these casinos open back up you're gonna see some sweet deals being offered to all the whales in the world... Management's gonna need a few big wins to get back in the black!


The whales already get “sweet deals”.
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March 17th, 2020 at 9:50:45 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

At some point don't they also leave themselves vulnerable to a lawsuit

Let's say every casino Nationwide closes but one or two and then people get sick and can trace the infection to a worker at that property. Can't an argument be made they refused government orders to shut and spread the infection

Casinos are always susceptible to claims against them. I would think shutting down is self protection also



Only if there was an actual order to shutdown. So far most NV casinos that shutdown did so voluntarily. As far as I can tell there are no state or local level shutdown orders anywhere in NV.

Many other states such as NJ have already ordered physical casinos to be shut down. I would guess it would only be a matter of time for NV to follow suite.

My guess would be, casinos would already be losing money if they are operating with minimal guests, so shutdowns may actually be in their best interest until this subsides.
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March 17th, 2020 at 9:56:11 AM permalink
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My guess would be, casinos would already be losing money if they are operating with minimal guests, so shutdowns may actually be in their best interest until this subsides.


Definitely. They can cut staff just so much....but the cost to operate might simply not be worth it.
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March 17th, 2020 at 11:16:17 AM permalink
Well Manitoba government just told the casinos to close tonight at midnight.
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March 17th, 2020 at 11:38:19 AM permalink
The timing of these things is so silly. Close your casino at midnight! Don't wait for a quieter time! Or a more sober time. Social responsibility be damned! Forcibly send a fleet of half-drunk ploppies onto the streets in the name of public health!

Or here, close your bar at 5pm on St Patrick's day. You can get your lunch revenue, but forget about the dinner crowd or revelers. Never mind that we've known about this issue for weeks, you've ordered supplies for a big night because of lack of other direction, and now you'll lose that money in addition to the costs of closure; it's just not permissible to stay open one more night.
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March 17th, 2020 at 11:59:47 AM permalink
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The timing of these things is so silly. Close your casino at midnight! Don't wait for a quieter time! Or a more sober time. Social responsibility be damned! Forcibly send a fleet of half-drunk ploppies onto the streets in the name of public health!

Or here, close your bar at 5pm on St Patrick's day. You can get your lunch revenue, but forget about the dinner crowd or revelers. Never mind that we've known about this issue for weeks, you've ordered supplies for a big night because of lack of other direction, and now you'll lose that money in addition to the costs of closure; it's just not permissible to stay open one more night.


The situation evolved SO FAST, so ferocious, so unknown....that truth be told, no one has a darn clue what is the right or proper or acceptable way to proceed. There was no playbook for this event. This is akin to a nuclear bomb going off in a large city and the survivors have no guidance, no path, no what to do, no where to go.

This virus has become the very definition of flying blind. There are 15 different possible methods advocated for every 1 enforced.

Unprecedented times.

Hindsight...but China should have been locked down. Nothing leaves. Not a person. Not a shipment. Not a plane.
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March 17th, 2020 at 12:05:25 PM permalink
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Hindsight...but China should have been locked down. Nothing leaves. Not a person. Not a shipment. Not a plane.



Do you think we should do that so we don't become what china is or was?
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March 17th, 2020 at 12:26:27 PM permalink
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Do you think we should do that so we don't become what china is or was?


China seems to be improving. The problem is they were ground zero and I suspect they concealed it for too long from the rest of the world in the hopes they could contain it themselves. They couldn't.

If I was leading a country that wasn't having a big issue right now...damn right I would lock it down to incoming anything.
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March 17th, 2020 at 12:37:03 PM permalink
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China seems to be improving. The problem is they were ground zero and I suspect they concealed it for too long from the rest of the world in the hopes they could contain it themselves. They couldn't.

If I was leading a country that wasn't having a big issue right now...damn right I would lock it down to incoming anything.



From what I understand many medical supplies and associated stuff come from China

Punish them and we could wind up in worse straits
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March 17th, 2020 at 12:47:13 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

From what I understand many medical supplies and associated stuff come from China

Punish them and we could wind up in worse straits


I don't think there is any easy or right answer, frankly.

The mandated closures here in Vegas are ridiculous....not from a standpoint of right or wrong on the containment side, but from inconsistency.

Close down senior centers...but leave Dotty's open?

Close down schools....but leave certain casinos open.

Those being pushed out of MGM today are heading over to Ballys or Caesars. Where is the logic on the containment side? It's as if MGM is saying we will do our part....but others not? Might as well leave it all open then.
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March 17th, 2020 at 1:04:40 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

I don't think there is any easy or right answer, frankly.

The mandated closures here in Vegas are ridiculous....not from a standpoint of right or wrong on the containment side, but from inconsistency.

Close down senior centers...but leave Dotty's open?

Close down schools....but leave certain casinos open.

Those being pushed out of MGM today are heading over to Ballys or Caesars. Where is the logic on the containment side? It's as if MGM is saying we will do our part....but others not? Might as well leave it all open then.



I agree

That's where the government has to step in and order the closure. For consistency

Atlantic City was forced to close simultaneously because of government mandate

You really have issue with Nevada and Vegas county regulators
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March 17th, 2020 at 1:04:48 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

I don't think there is any easy or right answer, frankly.

The mandated closures here in Vegas are ridiculous....not from a standpoint of right or wrong on the containment side, but from inconsistency.

Close down senior centers...but leave Dotty's open?

Close down schools....but leave certain casinos open.

Those being pushed out of MGM today are heading over to Ballys or Caesars. Where is the logic on the containment side? It's as if MGM is saying we will do our part....but others not? Might as well leave it all open then.



If only there was a person who could set one policy for the whole country.
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March 17th, 2020 at 1:38:12 PM permalink
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If only there was a person who could set one policy for the whole country.



Exactly, Adolph Hitler would have handled this.
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March 17th, 2020 at 1:56:48 PM permalink
In the house 'next' to me, it's actually
about 2 football fields away, the
Gen-X couple who lives there is
never home during the day weekdays.
Their matching SUV's have been
parked outside the garage for 2 days.
This actually spooks me more than
anything else.
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March 17th, 2020 at 2:07:55 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

In the house 'next' to me, it's actually
about 2 football fields away, the
Gen-X couple who lives there is
never home during the day weekdays.
Their matching SUV's have been
parked outside the garage for 2 days.
This actually spooks me more than
anything else.


Maybe furloughed from their jobs.
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March 17th, 2020 at 2:22:27 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Do you think we should do that so we don't become what china is or was?



Saying, "do you think we should" suggests we have a choice. TD hit it with, "Hindsight." It may be too late for America to avoid a hard fall.

Consider this: China (and other countries, as they start to recover) could allow travel everywhere except to-from USA. All because an unprepared America "breaks" big time, the World might "lock us in our room" until we are stable enough to rejoin the World Community.
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March 17th, 2020 at 2:37:44 PM permalink
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Saying, "do you think we should" suggests we have a choice. TD hit it with, "Hindsight." It may be too late for America to avoid a hard fall.



Of course we have a choice. It just depends on how many casualties we can find acceptable.
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March 17th, 2020 at 2:40:36 PM permalink
My prediction is that all Nevada casinos will be mandated to close starting tomorrow.
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March 17th, 2020 at 2:48:05 PM permalink
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My prediction is that all Nevada casinos will be mandated to close starting tomorrow.


I don’t know if it’s the right or wrong or even a prudent move (probably)....but at least it’s consistent.

Makes ZERO sense to have mandatory shut schools, shut senior centers but leave open Dotty’s and casinos.

At least the leaders should have the cojones to tell the public their decisions are economic reality first, health impact second
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March 17th, 2020 at 3:04:13 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

In the house 'next' to me, it's actually
about 2 football fields away, the
Gen-X couple who lives there is
never home during the day weekdays.
Their matching SUV's have been
parked outside the garage for 2 days.
This actually spooks me more than
anything else.



How do you know they're never home? Do you see them leave? If their cars stay there, how do they leave?
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March 17th, 2020 at 3:05:09 PM permalink
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My prediction is that all Nevada casinos will be mandated to close starting tomorrow.



This is the rumor on Twitter right now. Says the NV governor will be forcing all casinos to close until at least March 31.
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March 17th, 2020 at 3:20:17 PM permalink
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This is the rumor on Twitter right now. Says the NV governor will be forcing all casinos to close until at least March 31.


Just the fact that most here would have bet against the idea of shutting Vegas casinos only 1 week ago....should tell you how things have changed.

The main concern is if the cases grow exponentially as in Italy, the hospitals here will get overwhelmed. Then it becomes selective death.

The scientists are pretty adamant. We need to side on caution. Once the hospitals are overwhelmed....the genie does not go back in the bottle nor are there any “do’overs”...
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March 17th, 2020 at 4:22:42 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

My prediction is that all Nevada casinos will be mandated to close starting tomorrow.



Nevada Gaming Commission has set up guidelines for those casinos that want to remain open. I don't know how to post up the document on this forum. All the casinos here in Reno are still open.
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March 17th, 2020 at 4:26:18 PM permalink
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Nevada Gaming Commission has set up guidelines for those casinos that want to remain open. I don't know how to post up the document on this forum. All the casinos here in Reno are still open.



I got that too but I don't believe it. The GCB is usually a day or two behind. Las Vegas Review Journal now reporting Governor closing all non-essential businesses.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-nevada/sisolak-expected-to-order-closure-of-all-nonessential-businesses-in-nevada-1983950/
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March 17th, 2020 at 4:27:11 PM permalink
There have been rumors China got rid of the problems by shooting the infected.
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March 17th, 2020 at 4:28:11 PM permalink
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There have been rumors China got rid of the problems by shooting the infected.



Even better, shoot everybody that does not have it so they won't get it,
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March 17th, 2020 at 5:15:48 PM permalink
Damn. It looks like it will be a 30 day mandatory closure.

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March 17th, 2020 at 5:27:37 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Once these casinos open back up you're gonna see some sweet deals being offered to all the whales in the world... Management's gonna need a few big wins to get back in the black!

This is something that I've paid attention to closely since the 90s. I have always hoped this would be the case, but in my experience the casinos tend to give out more in terms of promotions/ free play/ deals when they're doing well and they tighten up when they're doing bad.

I have no idea what their position is when it comes to giving whales great deals either way.
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March 17th, 2020 at 5:42:51 PM permalink
Updated. Most have closed now. Lots of emails from various ones stating so. At least until end of month, depending upon what occurs after that. In Vegas, I would say at least the Caesars casinos were open, with about half the capacity being open, the main local ones, like Station and Coast casinos. This is as of Tuesday, the 17th.
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March 17th, 2020 at 6:15:16 PM permalink
Just announced by the Governor: all Nevada gaming, including all slot and VP machines, must be stopped effective midnight Tuesday night (3/17).
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