I'm signed up as a donor and wish more people would.
So, get your paperwork in first!
Quote: GenoDRPhRecently went through this with my mother who died at 81. A round Italian woman she died of (unknown) heart disease, mild kidney failure and mild T2D diabetes. Her expressed wish to donate her body to a medical school. She had the proper forms just never filled them out. She was also an organ donor. When she died suddenly of a heart attack at the hospital I inquired about organ donation and the nurse told me they declined organ donation due to age. When I called the medical school to donate her body they wouldn't take her because she didn't authorize in advance. So off to the crematorium and up in smoke she goes. I remember thinking, "Man, what a waste of a good body!"
So, get your paperwork in first!
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Did mine, have it in my wallet and my death envelope. The subject came up and I actually showed the car to a co-worker when she asked what it was like. One of the more interesting water-cooler talks I have had.
RIP
https://www.foxnews.com/us/james-watson-nobel-winning-co-discoverer-dnas-double-helix-structure-dead-97
Dave Burgess died about a month ago. The announcement just dropped on my news feed today.
And many more.
Udo Kier.
Quote: GenoDRPhTwo-time major champion golfer whose career was tainted by a racially insensitive joke about Tiger Woods, Fuzzy Zoeller has died. He was 74.
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Since when is it wrong to assume another golfer may want chicken and ribs for his celebration dinner?
Quote: DRichQuote: GenoDRPhTwo-time major champion golfer whose career was tainted by a racially insensitive joke about Tiger Woods, Fuzzy Zoeller has died. He was 74.
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Since when is it wrong to assume another golfer may want chicken and ribs for his celebration dinner?
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It seems stereotypical to be honest. 💡
Quote: DRichQuote: GenoDRPhTwo-time major champion golfer whose career was tainted by a racially insensitive joke about Tiger Woods, Fuzzy Zoeller has died. He was 74.
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Since when is it wrong to assume another golfer may want chicken and ribs for his celebration dinner?
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His actual quote, and his follow up over the years, speak for themselves.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: DRichQuote: GenoDRPhTwo-time major champion golfer whose career was tainted by a racially insensitive joke about Tiger Woods, Fuzzy Zoeller has died. He was 74.
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Since when is it wrong to assume another golfer may want chicken and ribs for his celebration dinner?
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His actual quote, and his follow up over the years, speak for themselves.
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Ever go to a comedy show, and the comedian tells a joke that you didn't think was that funny? Thirty years later, do you still think of him as "that comedian who told a joke that wasn't funny?" Do you obsess over it? Does that define him? Would you talk about it upon his death? I remember it and Tiger wasn't wigging out over it. He said "Why not Chicken Satay?" being he is also Thai. He's so multiethnic that no ethnic stereotype would apply to him anyway.
I call it like I see it and I call that a media-created story, sensationalized for the sake of promoting the media, not Tiger Woods or the PGA. If the media figures weren't all po-faced and droning on about it people would have just thought it a joke between two competitive professionals, a veteran ribbing an impressive rookie, and shrugged. Yellow journalism isn't new and it is toxic to society. Surprisingly prevalent in sportswriting these days though. It's like the sportswriters don't take it seriously and they're using that job as a stepping stone to something really important, like a celebrity gossip job. You'll read an article and they talk about what one player said to another, what a player thinks of his team, what he said about the fans in some town... everything but the score. They might not even mention the sport they were playing.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: DRichQuote: GenoDRPhTwo-time major champion golfer whose career was tainted by a racially insensitive joke about Tiger Woods, Fuzzy Zoeller has died. He was 74.
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Since when is it wrong to assume another golfer may want chicken and ribs for his celebration dinner?
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His actual quote, and his follow up over the years, speak for themselves.
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Ever go to a comedy show, and the comedian tells a joke that you didn't think was that funny? Thirty years later, do you still think of him as "that comedian who told a joke that wasn't funny?" Do you obsess over it? Does that define him? Would you talk about it upon his death? I remember it and Tiger wasn't wigging out over it. He said "Why not Chicken Satay?" being he is also Thai. He's so multiethnic that no ethnic stereotype would apply to him anyway.
I call it like I see it and I call that a media-created story, sensationalized for the sake of promoting the media, not Tiger Woods or the PGA. If the media figures weren't all po-faced and droning on about it people would have just thought it a joke between two competitive professionals, a veteran ribbing an impressive rookie, and shrugged. Yellow journalism isn't new and it is toxic to society. Surprisingly prevalent in sportswriting these days though. It's like the sportswriters don't take it seriously and they're using that job as a stepping stone to something really important, like a celebrity gossip job. You'll read an article and they talk about what one player said to another, what a player thinks of his team, what he said about the fans in some town... everything but the score. They might not even mention the sport they were playing.
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OJ Simpson was a Heisman winning, Hall of Fame football player and actor who had some popular roles. But he is known today mostly for the misdeeds he was accused of, convicted of and found liable for. Not that anything Fuzzy did comes even remotely close to what OJ did,, but you asked. Kanye West is a multiple award winning musical artist who sold a lot of records and sold out a lot of concerts. He is known mostly today for his erratic behavior and his antisemitic statements. Michael Richards is an Emmy award winning comedian and actor who acted out on the most recognizable roles in television.He is known today mostly for a single and horrible incident of racist statements, sad during a stand-up act. Sometimes, the evil that men do live after them, and the good is buried with their bones. And, unfortunately this is true for Fuzzy. You may excuse racist or prejudicial utterances, but the rest of just and civilized society shouldn't.
And yes, if I go to a live show or see a movie or TV show and I don't like it, I'm not going to like it forever.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: DRichQuote: GenoDRPhTwo-time major champion golfer whose career was tainted by a racially insensitive joke about Tiger Woods, Fuzzy Zoeller has died. He was 74.
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Since when is it wrong to assume another golfer may want chicken and ribs for his celebration dinner?
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His actual quote, and his follow up over the years, speak for themselves.
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Ever go to a comedy show, and the comedian tells a joke that you didn't think was that funny? Thirty years later, do you still think of him as "that comedian who told a joke that wasn't funny?" Do you obsess over it? Does that define him? Would you talk about it upon his death? I remember it and Tiger wasn't wigging out over it. He said "Why not Chicken Satay?" being he is also Thai. He's so multiethnic that no ethnic stereotype would apply to him anyway.
I call it like I see it and I call that a media-created story, sensationalized for the sake of promoting the media, not Tiger Woods or the PGA. If the media figures weren't all po-faced and droning on about it people would have just thought it a joke between two competitive professionals, a veteran ribbing an impressive rookie, and shrugged. Yellow journalism isn't new and it is toxic to society. Surprisingly prevalent in sportswriting these days though. It's like the sportswriters don't take it seriously and they're using that job as a stepping stone to something really important, like a celebrity gossip job. You'll read an article and they talk about what one player said to another, what a player thinks of his team, what he said about the fans in some town... everything but the score. They might not even mention the sport they were playing.
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OJ Simpson was a Heisman winning, Hall of Fame football player and actor who had some popular roles. But he is known today mostly for the misdeeds he was accused of, convicted of and found liable for. Not that anything Fuzzy did comes even remotely close to what OJ did,, but you asked. Kanye West is a multiple award winning musical artist who sold a lot of records and sold out a lot of concerts. He is known mostly today for his erratic behavior and his antisemitic statements. Michael Richards is an Emmy award winning comedian and actor who acted out on the most recognizable roles in television.He is known today mostly for a single and horrible incident of racist statements, sad during a stand-up act. Sometimes, the evil that men do live after them, and the good is buried with their bones. And, unfortunately this is true for Fuzzy. You may excuse racist or prejudicial utterances, but the rest of just and civilized society shouldn't.
And yes, if I go to a live show or see a movie or TV show and I don't like it, I'm not going to like it forever.
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So what are we supposed to write about when Tiger Woods dies? Maybe that he was implicated in steroid use, and didn't he get himself in trouble with prostitutes and some crazy sado-maso where he got beaten up? Some sportswriter that would make me!
Blame it on intellectual laziness, because I don't know that much about golf and couldn't detail what about his achievements were so great and what sets him apart from other golfers. So rather than educating myself, I can elicit some giggles at his expense when he's not there to defend himself, talking about sado-maso and his scandals. Not sure how that kind of journalism makes the world a better place.
It's just a bad habit we have gotten in to. There's a name in the Bible that means "accuser," and that is whom we draw near to when we accuse.
Not that anyone does. But we should make note of notable events without whitewashing everything.
People who judge others by the worst moment in their life should expect to be treated the same way.
Good people can still say stupid shit.
Quote: billryanI hope people don't judge my life by a poor attempt at humor. Zoeller was an interesting guy in an era when most golfers were pure whitebread.
People who judge others by the worst moment in their life should expect to be treated the same way.
Good people can still say stupid shit.
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I do hope that people live their lives'so that poor attempts at humor aren't comments reinforcing racist stereotypes. There is no excuse.
I also hope that people's worst moments of their lives aren't anywhere near as close to making comments reinforcing racist stereotypes.
But Fuzzy is dead, and may he rest in peace.
That's what I always say. Or did just now.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanI hope people don't judge my life by a poor attempt at humor. Zoeller was an interesting guy in an era when most golfers were pure whitebread.
People who judge others by the worst moment in their life should expect to be treated the same way.
Good people can still say stupid shit.
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I do hope that people live their lives'so that poor attempts at humor aren't comments reinforcing racist stereotypes. There is no excuse.
I also hope that people's worst moments of their lives aren't anywhere near as close to making comments reinforcing racist stereotypes.
But Fuzzy is dead, and may he rest in peace.
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It must be nice to walk on water. Most of us don't have that ability.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanI hope people don't judge my life by a poor attempt at humor. Zoeller was an interesting guy in an era when most golfers were pure whitebread.
People who judge others by the worst moment in their life should expect to be treated the same way.
Good people can still say stupid shit.
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I do hope that people live their lives'so that poor attempts at humor aren't comments reinforcing racist stereotypes. There is no excuse.
I also hope that people's worst moments of their lives aren't anywhere near as close to making comments reinforcing racist stereotypes.
But Fuzzy is dead, and may he rest in peace.
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Priorities need to be rearranged, and consider that bad, bad things can happen in the lives of those who are not so privileged. Oh, how I wish the worst moment of my life was telling a racist joke!
Seriously, can I trade in everything dark and dismal that has touched me in my life, for telling some joke about the differences between people where I squint my eyes or stick my lips out, affect an accent, or something ridiculous along those lines? Those times I was told about murders, arson, sex offense, can I have been just told racist jokes instead? Sign me up!
Quote: billryanQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanI hope people don't judge my life by a poor attempt at humor. Zoeller was an interesting guy in an era when most golfers were pure whitebread.
People who judge others by the worst moment in their life should expect to be treated the same way.
Good people can still say stupid shit.
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I do hope that people live their lives'so that poor attempts at humor aren't comments reinforcing racist stereotypes. There is no excuse.
I also hope that people's worst moments of their lives aren't anywhere near as close to making comments reinforcing racist stereotypes.
But Fuzzy is dead, and may he rest in peace.
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It must be nice to walk on water. Most of us don't have that ability.
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Walking on water is a pretty high bar to try and meet. Not being a racist, not saying and doing racist things and having no real tolerace for those who do is a very low bar to try and meet. I try to at least meet that low bar. Do you?
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanI hope people don't judge my life by a poor attempt at humor. Zoeller was an interesting guy in an era when most golfers were pure whitebread.
People who judge others by the worst moment in their life should expect to be treated the same way.
Good people can still say stupid shit.
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I do hope that people live their lives'so that poor attempts at humor aren't comments reinforcing racist stereotypes. There is no excuse.
I also hope that people's worst moments of their lives aren't anywhere near as close to making comments reinforcing racist stereotypes.
But Fuzzy is dead, and may he rest in peace.
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Priorities need to be rearranged, and consider that bad, bad things can happen in the lives of those who are not so privileged. Oh, how I wish the worst moment of my life was telling a racist joke!
Seriously, can I trade in everything dark and dismal that has touched me in my life, for telling some joke about the differences between people where I squint my eyes or stick my lips out, affect an accent, or something ridiculous along those lines? Those times I was told about murders, arson, sex offense, can I have been just told racist jokes instead? Sign me up!
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I try and live my life that even at my worst moments, nobody can accuse me of saying or doing racist things. Do you? I don't squint my eyes or stick my lips out at anyone. Nor do I affect an accent. Why do you?
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanI hope people don't judge my life by a poor attempt at humor. Zoeller was an interesting guy in an era when most golfers were pure whitebread.
People who judge others by the worst moment in their life should expect to be treated the same way.
Good people can still say stupid shit.
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I do hope that people live their lives'so that poor attempts at humor aren't comments reinforcing racist stereotypes. There is no excuse.
I also hope that people's worst moments of their lives aren't anywhere near as close to making comments reinforcing racist stereotypes.
But Fuzzy is dead, and may he rest in peace.
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It must be nice to walk on water. Most of us don't have that ability.
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Walking on water is a pretty high bar to try and meet. Not being a racist, not saying and doing racist things and having no real tolerace for those who do is a very low bar to try and meet. I try to at least meet that low bar. Do you?
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From a practical standpoint, I prefer not to be shot in the head or blown out of my shoes by a bomb after generally being identified as an American and judged on the actions of a few disreputable Americans to be all of the same kind..
From another practical standpoint, everyone on the street is a stranger and can’t automatically be trusted. The harmless petite woman could lead you into real danger, and thuggish looking guy could be harmless. Caution is wise, but generalities can destroy innocent people also.
One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
Quote: rxwine2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.
One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.
It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.
https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
Quote: darkozQuote: rxwine2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.
One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.
It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.
https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
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Hmm, First thing I thought, is he's Jewish. Don't know if there is a connection. Dad was Carl Reiner. Kind of a famous family. Well, at least if you're not Gen z
Quote: rxwineQuote: darkozQuote: rxwine2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.
One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.
It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.
https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
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Hmm, First thing I thought, is he's Jewish. Don't know if there is a connection. Dad was Carl Reiner. Kind of a famous family. Well, at least if you're not Gen z
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I don't think it was that. The samizdat is reporting that it was his son, who is believed to be a practicing drug addict.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: rxwineQuote: darkozQuote: rxwine2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.
One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.
It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.
https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
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Hmm, First thing I thought, is he's Jewish. Don't know if there is a connection. Dad was Carl Reiner. Kind of a famous family. Well, at least if you're not Gen z
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I don't think it was that. The samizdat is reporting that it was his son, who is believed to be a practicing drug addict.
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I thought it might be murder suicide, but then they said it was a knife. That's still possible, but kind of unlikely.
Quote: rxwineQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: rxwineQuote: darkozQuote: rxwine2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.
One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.
It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.
https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
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Hmm, First thing I thought, is he's Jewish. Don't know if there is a connection. Dad was Carl Reiner. Kind of a famous family. Well, at least if you're not Gen z
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I don't think it was that. The samizdat is reporting that it was his son, who is believed to be a practicing drug addict.
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I thought it might be murder suicide, but then they said it was a knife. That's still possible, but kind of unlikely.
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There are some reports circulating that in addition to narcotics and psychoactive substances, the son was taking a different kind of pill, for a different reason.
Quote: rxwineQuote: darkozQuote: rxwine2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.
One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.
It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.
https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
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Hmm, First thing I thought, is he's Jewish. Don't know if there is a connection. Dad was Carl Reiner. Kind of a famous family. Well, at least if you're not Gen z
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Carl Reiner was Jewish so of course Rob Reiner is Jewish. So Meathead came to a bad end. All in the Family was the funniest show on TV and I doubt if you could show a single episode of it now in prime time. Every episode was politically Incorrect and offended somebody.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: rxwineQuote: darkozQuote: rxwine2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.
One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.
It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.
https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
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Hmm, First thing I thought, is he's Jewish. Don't know if there is a connection. Dad was Carl Reiner. Kind of a famous family. Well, at least if you're not Gen z
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Carl Reiner was Jewish so of course Rob Reiner is Jewish. So Meathead came to a bad end. All in the Family was the funniest show on TV and I doubt if you could show a single episode of it now in prime time. Every episode was politically Incorrect and offended somebody.
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They did a live version of an All in the Family episode in 2019 starring Woody Harrelson and Marisa Tomei as Archie and Edith. And a live episode of The Jeffersons, too! (The theme song "Movin' on Up" by Jennifer Hudson was fantastic!)
Quote: EvenBobQuote: rxwineQuote: darkozQuote: rxwine2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.
One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.
It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.
https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
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Hmm, First thing I thought, is he's Jewish. Don't know if there is a connection. Dad was Carl Reiner. Kind of a famous family. Well, at least if you're not Gen z
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Carl Reiner was Jewish so of course Rob Reiner is Jewish. So Meathead came to a bad end. All in the Family was the funniest show on TV and I doubt if you could show a single episode of it now in prime time. Every episode was politically Incorrect and offended somebody.
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There were some nice guest stars in the series. Sammy Davis of course, and Reggie Jackson was in an episode with prolific character actor Barry Gordon as his lawyer.
You couldn't do the Archie Bunker character at all now, and mostly because of his positive characteristics. He had some archaic attitudes (which were just barely archaic in 1971 when the series debuted) but aside from that he was a very kind and decent fellow. And that's the part that would cause alarm, because with the melodramatic absolutism that holds sway now portraying him as anything but unalloyed evil would be taken as an endorsement of the archaic attitudes.
They even brought tickets to watch Caligula at the movies when I was 14 but the theater manager ran out and stopped us.
And yes they knew what the film was purported to have in it. I had to wait until 16 before I saw it on VHS
Quote: EvenBobQuote: rxwineQuote: darkozQuote: rxwine2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.
One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.
It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.
https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
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Hmm, First thing I thought, is he's Jewish. Don't know if there is a connection. Dad was Carl Reiner. Kind of a famous family. Well, at least if you're not Gen z
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Carl Reiner was Jewish so of course Rob Reiner is Jewish. So Meathead came to a bad end. All in the Family was the funniest show on TV and I doubt if you could show a single episode of it now in prime time. Every episode was politically Incorrect and offended somebody.
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It's ironic that as much as Reiner posted almost daily
on Twitter about violence, it's ironic he would be offed
by his own son in an extermely violent way. Watch what
you create, it often has an outcome you weren't expecting.
sounds like he had them tied up or knocked out if this is true. Chilling
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: EvenBobQuote: rxwineQuote: darkozQuote: rxwine2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.
One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.
It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.
https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
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Hmm, First thing I thought, is he's Jewish. Don't know if there is a connection. Dad was Carl Reiner. Kind of a famous family. Well, at least if you're not Gen z
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Carl Reiner was Jewish so of course Rob Reiner is Jewish. So Meathead came to a bad end. All in the Family was the funniest show on TV and I doubt if you could show a single episode of it now in prime time. Every episode was politically Incorrect and offended somebody.
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There were some nice guest stars in the series. Sammy Davis of course, and Reggie Jackson was in an episode with prolific character actor Barry Gordon as his lawyer.
You couldn't do the Archie Bunker character at all now, and mostly because of his positive characteristics. He had some archaic attitudes (which were just barely archaic in 1971 when the series debuted) but aside from that he was a very kind and decent fellow. And that's the part that would cause alarm, because with the melodramatic absolutism that holds sway now portraying him as anything but unalloyed evil would be taken as an endorsement of the archaic attitudes.
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There's a reason why "archaic"attitudes" are called "archaic". Best to leave them in the past.

