Gun owners- Did you see this?
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News is saying he can get up to 15 years for that. Does that mean any gun owner who filled out the paperwork for a gun purchase can be arrested for a failed drug test?
I actually thought they found illegal drugs at his houseQuote: billryanA friend of the Dayton shooter is under arrest tonite. Not for providing the weapons and body armor to the shooter, but for lying on his gun paperwork. Evidently, he stated, under oath that he did not use drugs but he has a past history of drug use.
News is saying he can get up to 15 years for that. Does that mean any gun owner who filled out the paperwork for a gun purchase can be arrested for a failed drug test?
Quote: MaxPenThey will soon try to red flag anyone for all kinds of reasons when trying to make a purchase. We should see if we can trade our liberals with China for the protesters in Hong Kong. Atleast they know the importance of the second amendment and apparently even the words to our anthem.
Lol, they dont even have a first amendment.
Priorities. Sad!
Quote: darkozQuote: MaxPenThey will soon try to red flag anyone for all kinds of reasons when trying to make a purchase. We should see if we can trade our liberals with China for the protesters in Hong Kong. Atleast they know the importance of the second amendment and apparently even the words to our anthem.
Lol, they dont even have a first amendment.
Priorities. Sad!
I think this site is in closed door meetings to possibly reign that in as well.
Quote: MaxPenQuote: darkozQuote: MaxPenThey will soon try to red flag anyone for all kinds of reasons when trying to make a purchase. We should see if we can trade our liberals with China for the protesters in Hong Kong. Atleast they know the importance of the second amendment and apparently even the words to our anthem.
Lol, they dont even have a first amendment.
Priorities. Sad!
I think this site is in closed door meetings to possibly reign that in as well.
You're referring to "Wizardofvegas.com shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
That sounds a lot closer to China law than anything in America
Quote: TomGQuote: MaxPenQuote: darkozQuote: MaxPenThey will soon try to red flag anyone for all kinds of reasons when trying to make a purchase. We should see if we can trade our liberals with China for the protesters in Hong Kong. Atleast they know the importance of the second amendment and apparently even the words to our anthem.
Lol, they dont even have a first amendment.
Priorities. Sad!
I think this site is in closed door meetings to possibly reign that in as well.
You're referring to "Wizardofvegas.com shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
That sounds a lot closer to China law than anything in America
We are living in interesting times.😀
Quote: MaxPenThey will soon try to red flag anyone for all kinds of reasons when trying to make a purchase. We should see if we can trade our liberals with China for the protesters in Hong Kong. Atleast they know the importance of the second amendment and apparently even the words to our anthem.
Best idea I have heard in some time, though have to make sure no 3 day right to cancel. Offer them a free apartment of those who left.
Quote: MaxPenAtleast they <in Hong Kong> know the importance of the second amendment and apparently even the words to our anthem.
I'll leave it to others to discuss the proper interpretation of the second amendment.
However, I find it interesting that so very few Americans know the words to The Star Spangled Banner, written in 1814, by a slave owner. However, it was not adopted as our country's official anthem by Congress until 1931, more than 100 years after the country's founding.
Are you familiar with verse three, which makes it clear that this America hunts down and kills any runaway slave (or indentured worker)?
Quote: Star Spangled Banner, Verse 3
Their blood has washed out
their foul footsteps pollution.
No refuge could save
the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight
or the gloom of the grave.
When compared to non-white Americans, I expect far fewer whites recognize these words as coming from our national anthem. And, IMHO, many Americans -- perhaps ignorant of the anthem's actual words -- would deny the anthem having such language.
Sad. So sad.
Quote: billryanDoes that mean any gun owner who filled out the paperwork for a gun purchase can be arrested for a failed drug test?
Yes, with a couple few asterisks.
Been warning everyone for years about legal weed. State might say OK, but last I checked, weed was federally illegal and the ATF is a federal bunch. If you burn weed, even if a doctor gave it to you, you were committing a federal crime and therefore ineligible for gun ownership.
The asterisks come by my ignorance of the situation since about 2016. I just stopping GAS, so haven't kept up on it. I heard rumblings about Trump decriminalizing which would end this issue, but I ain't followed whether he did or not. If he didn't, then yeah. It's still an issue.
The other asterisks is because of your qualifier "failed". You aren't tested in the licensing or purchasing phase; there's no medical involvement for firearm purchases. So hard no on that. And employers are neither required or encouraged to report to anyone but their own HR; there's no .gov involvement here. So... "failed" I'm not sure has anything to do with it.
Quote: Dalex64Well, if you have all of these "useless gun laws" and find someone in violation of one or more of them, you had best enforce them, otherwise they really are useless.
Good on ya, Dalex. You're on your way to enlightenment. Keep on this path and you'll run into me soon. I've got freedom and FN FAL's, you're welcome to both ;)
