The Gay Thread
this in the thread it's posted, let's
start a gay and happy place for it.
Quote: MaxPenWe should have a discussion as to why gay people want to be accepted by society so bad. After all they are by definition degenerative to human existence.
Is it because they know they are participating in degenerate behavior but want everyone else to pretend they aren't and accept it?
Now that there is some gay acceptance the trans and pedo agenda seems to be getting pushed by the same crowd. It's like they're not going to be happy with any crumbs. They want the whole cookie.
I guess living in perpetual sin is tough.
"Is it because they know they are participating in degenerate behavior but want everyone else to pretend they aren't and accept it?"
Bingo! Winner winner chicken dinner!
Of course that's the reason, you are
100% correct. And it's kinda sorta
working among the Leftie thinking
crowd, they love them some Gays,
can't get enough of them. But never
forget, suicide rates among Gays is
still significantly higher than the rest
of society for a reason. Even with them
claiming to be widely accepted by 'just
about everybody'.
But why would that be? This isn't the
50's anymore, you can hardly find a
TV show that doesn't have a Gay
character in it. Even though just 2%
of the population is Gay. What a puzzle.
mean homosexual. Never heard it in
the 60's or 70's. In fact:
"In June 1967, the headline of the review of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album in the British daily newspaper The Times stated, "The Beatles revive hopes of progress in pop music with their gay new LP"
So in the late 60's 'gay' still meant
happy and carefree. In Calif in the
late 70's and early 80's I never heard
the term. We had lots of names, but
that's all considered hate speech now,
for whatever ridiculous reason. The
Gay men I knew then were certainly
not very happy and carefree, they were
often glum and angry. What a strange
and inappropriate word to adopt to
describe themselves.
Make it ~10%.Quote: EvenBob..., you can hardly find a
TV show that doesn't have a Gay
character in it. Even though just 2%
of the population is Gay.
Many animal species have a small proportion of homosexual individuals.
I just read a story about two male penguins in Berlin zoo. They live together for ten years. They somehow manifested a desire to care for an egg, so they were provided one, and they hatch it, alternatingly.
Which comes to show: No, homosexuality does not endanger the survival of a species.
If it exists, it logically must have stood the test of evolutionary fitness.
Quote: EvenBobHow did the word Gay even come to
mean homosexual. Never heard it in
the 60's or 70's. In fact:
Looks to be tied to "carefree" as in gay males engaging in lots of carefree sex. This would account for not hearing it used for females for the most part as you do not hear of lesbian "meeting places" similar to gay males. At least not near to the same extent.
Quote: kubikulannMake it ~10%.
Yeah, no.
"Drawing on information from four recent national and two state-level population-based surveys, the analyses suggest that there are more than 8 million adults in the US who are lesbian, gay, or bisexual, comprising 3.5% of the adult population."
But that includes women, which I
don't consider to be Gay. For men,
it's held around 2% for decades.
Many Gay women opt to have a
baby, which just makes them Gay
wanna-be's. They still need a man's
sperm for that.
I would like to know the source you quote.Quote: EvenBob"Drawing on information from four recent national and two state-level population-based surveys, the analyses suggest that there are more than 8 million adults in the US who are lesbian, gay, or bisexual, comprising 3.5% of the adult population.".
As a statistician, I know such touchy info is often under-reported in surveys. ‘Drawing from etc.’ makes me doubtful whether the appropriate corrections have been made.
Quote: kubikulannI would like to know the source you quote.
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/williams-in-the-news/how-many-people-are-gay/
This is closer to the figures I encountered in Europe.Quote: williamsinstituteAn estimated 19 million Americans (8.2%) report that they have engaged in same-sex sexual behavior and nearly 25.6 million Americans (11%) acknowledge at least some same-sex sexual attraction.
I met several homosexuals (m/f) who did not identify as ‘regular’ L,G or B. They often don’t know how to label themselves. The categories seem to fit more our heterosexual mind.
A cousin married a woman, had children. Then she left and lived with a woman. And now she lives alone saying she loves neither men nor women...
Quote: WizardConsider this a reminder to all about the forum rule against hate speech.
Rules are meaningless unless they are enforced.
If you do care, why is it so important to you that other people are made to be unhappy or rejected?
I really hope to wind up an old man, sitting in front of the TV or radio, stewing about how people who are different from me aren't getting kicked in the teeth enough. That's how you know you've had a happy life and are making the most of your time and your mind.
Man, fewer gay gets are thrown on the streets by their parents. I'm going to spend the day being angry about it. My life is awesome.
But let's be real about referring to somebody as "degenerative." As in "characterized by progressive, often irreversible, deterioration." Or as in "tending to decline and deterioration." What does gayness or lack thereof have to do with "degenerativeness?" There's as much reason to refer to anybody who voted for Trump as "degenerative" as there is to refer to gayness as "degenerative."
Quote: kubikulannThis is closer to the figures I encountered in Europe.
So because I drove a race car
once, I'm now a race car driver
in the stats? Really? That's not
quite how it's done.
2% for decades.
Quote: RigondeauxWhy would you care?
If you do care, why is it so important to you that other people are made to be unhappy or rejected?
I really hope to wind up an old man, sitting in front of the TV or radio, stewing about how people who are different from me aren't getting kicked in the teeth enough. That's how you know you've had a happy life and are making the most of your time and your mind.
Man, fewer gay gets are thrown on the streets by their parents. I'm going to spend the day being angry about it. My life is awesome.
It comes down to the individual and whether they operate out of fear or out of love? Far too many posters here operate out of fear. Sad thing is they aren't even aware of it. It's their nature.
Quote: kubikulannThis is closer to the figures I encountered in Europe.
Quote: williamsinstitute
An estimated 19 million Americans (8.2%) report that they have engaged in same-sex sexual behavior and nearly 25.6 million Americans (11%) acknowledge at least some same-sex sexual attraction.
I met several homosexuals (m/f) who did not identify as ‘regular’ L,G or B. They often don’t know how to label themselves. The categories seem to fit more our heterosexual mind.
A cousin married a woman, had children. Then she left and lived with a woman. And now she lives alone saying she loves neither men nor women...
This is where the over-reporting of the 10% figure you cited comes from. Surveys written in such a way as to get that kind of response. Then they report "up to 10% of the population is gay." This fits the gay agenda to make it seem more "normal" as at 1-2% many people will not know a gay but at 10% most people will.
I would guess a lot of the 8.2% are women who are either just wild or think they are shall we say, "in style," or "doing the in thing." They could even think that it just attracts men. I'd also suggest that women will easier fall to pressure to "try it."
People think it is higher because of all the characters you keep seeing on tv and movies. Same as so many people overestimate the Black population by a large margin.
Quote: RigondeauxWhy would you care?
f you do care, why is it so important to you that other people are made to be unhappy or rejected?
Who was this directed at? I've always
found it odd that so many Gay men
must announce their Gayness to the
world. Non Gay's don't do that. The
only reason would be, they're starved
for all the negative attention they know
they'll get from many people.
They crave it, they live for it. A just and
non critical world is the last thing they
want, it would mean they aren't 'special'
any longer. They're just boring run of
the mill people who have sex once in
awhile, like everybody else. Yawn.
So many of the Gay men I knew in
Calif, their entire lives revolved around
being Gay. They were obsessed with it,
drowning in it. Imagine a straight guy
doing that with women. They're around,
and we have lots of names for them. And
not a whole lot of respect, they've been
mocked and derided in movies and
TV forever.
If you go crazy for sex as a Gay or a straight,
society usually judges you rather harshly.
Quote: AZDuffmanSame as so many people overestimate the Black population by a large margin.
In my taxi for years I asked Black
people what % of the pop was Black.
Not one of them was even in the
ballpark. Most of them said between
40-50%, some as low as 25%. The
right answer was about 12%. It's
because all they saw where they
lived was other Black people. Same
with Gays, they see so many other
Gays they think the world is overrun
with them. 2% is hardly a blip on
the map.
Quote: EvenBobWho was this directed at? I've always
found it odd that so many Gay men
must announce their Gayness to the
world. Non Gay's don't do that. The
only reason would be, they're starved
for all the negative attention they know
they'll get from many people.
It doesn’t happen as often nowadays but people often assumed I was religious or believed in god. Because that is often an assumed default condition. Extrapolate, why don’t you.
I dont know about all that.Quote: EvenBobWho was this directed at? I've always
found it odd that so many Gay men
must announce their Gayness to the
world. Non Gay's don't do that. The
only reason would be, they're starved
for all the negative attention they know
they'll get from many people.
They crave it, they live for it. A just and
non critical world is the last thing they
want, it would mean they aren't 'special'
any longer. They're just boring run of
the mill people who have sex once in
awhile, like everybody else. Yawn.
So many of the Gay men I knew in
Calif, their entire lives revolved around
being Gay. They were obsessed with it,
drowning in it. Imagine a straight guy
doing that with women. They're around,
and we have lots of names for them. And
not a whole lot of respect, they've been
mocked and derided in movies and
TV forever.
If you go crazy for sex as a Gay or a straight,
society usually judges you rather harshly.
I would like to know if they have to practice their gay accent, movements and style all the time and constantly be in character, or if it just takes over and becomes natural?
Quote: EvenBob
If you go crazy for sex as a Gay or a straight,
society usually judges you rather harshly.
I have generally noticed the more obsessed one is with sex the more of a disaster the rest of their life is. Straight guys end up being eaten alive in alimony, child support, and other expenses. They get in trouble for sexual harassment at work. They are impulsive and make other bad decisions such as overspending on luxury items.
Gay guys have the additional problem of other gay guys still act like males in regards to fewer problems with loose sex. Obsessed straight guys at least get throttled by most women are not as loose as men. Think of how many "gay hangouts" you hear about. Just out for random gay sex. Unhealthy physically. Puts a person in other dangers as well. "Mad Men" showed this in a balanced way.
Quote: AxelWolf
I would like to know if they have to practice their gay accent, movements and style all the time and constantly be in character, or if it just takes over and becomes natural?
Affectations are always learned, they're
never natural. Take heavy Southern
accents, for example. You talk that way
because everybody around you does.
Certain groups like to act in certain
ways to set themselves apart from
other groups. A complaint about
the orig Italian immigrants was, many
of them refused to assimilate. They
held onto the stereotype all their
lives, much as their kids begged them
not to.
FFS could this be any more on the nose? Is this what we're discussing on this site now? The hatred of minority groups?
I've stepped away from political crap on these forums for both personal and professional reasons. But if this thread is okay, I seriously will probably just stop posting on this site. I've clearly taken back my posting on here for the past 6-8 months as well.
Let's try not posting for a minute: EB you're a bigot, and a douche.
#WorthIt
How can one distinguish Free Speech and Hate speech?Quote: RomesThis entire threads existence <…> leads me to believe this site is okay with hate speech and bigotry.
Because YOU don’t like « hate speech and bigotry », is it a sufficient reason to reduce freedom of speech?
(I don’t like it either, but am willing to fight for the right to free speech. Including insults.)
Quote: kubikulannHow can one distinguish Free Speech and Hate speech?
By current standards it appears if it is a liberal it is "free speech." If it is a conservative it is "hate speech."
Meanwhile, forum management is discussing a change in rules to get back to a focus on Vegas and gambling.
Quote: WizardSentence on Romes will be announced shortly.
Meanwhile, forum management is discussing a change in rules to get back to a focus on Vegas and gambling.
Please encourage migration to DT?
Quote: WizardSentence on Romes will be announced shortly.
Meanwhile, forum management is discussing a change in rules to get back to a focus on Vegas and gambling.
I respectfully suggest either a hard limit on the number of political threads, or in the alternative, to create a politics sub-forum that doesn’t appear on the Recent Threads list.
Please don’t forget Math/Probability/Stat? This is the prime reason for my being attracted.Quote: WizardMeanwhile, forum management is discussing a change in rules to get back to a focus on Vegas and gambling.
Quote: Mission146I respectfully suggest either a hard limit on the number of political threads, or in the alternative, to create a politics sub-forum that doesn’t appear on the Recent Threads list.
Or just be allowed to block entire topics? That would allow a more customizable experience. I'm not a programmer but seems similar effort.
Just spitballing.
Quote: WizardSentence on Romes will be announced shortly.
Meanwhile, forum management is discussing a change in rules to get back to a focus on Vegas and gambling.
Yes, because Rome's is the problem here.
It's the second anniversary of Charlottesville, when many fine people marched thru the streets chanting Jews shall not replace us".
Seems like more than a few of them have migrated here.
Quote: Mission146I respectfully suggest either a hard limit on the number of political threads, or in the alternative, to create a politics sub-forum that doesn’t appear on the Recent Threads list.
Both great ideas
Quote: WizardSentence on Romes will be announced shortly.
Meanwhile, forum management is discussing a change in rules to get back to a focus on Vegas and gambling.
this is much needed. a lot of us have stepped away quite a bit lately. I dont bring a lot of substance but I like to read it.
I'm not the religious type but let me say "Haaleuha" (or however its spelled).Quote: WizardMeanwhile, forum management is discussing a change in rules to get back to a focus on Vegas and gambling.
Quote: billryanYes, because Rome's is the problem here.
It's the second anniversary of Charlottesville, when many fine people marched thru the streets chanting Jews shall not replace us".
Seems like more than a few of them have migrated here.
I would be shocked if we have a member here who hates Jews. Unless of course that person leans left or is a Congress person like Omar.
But whatever fits your agenda Bill. Take a statement that was truth and change it to make it seem Conservatives support Nazis. Embarrassing to both you and your “cause”.
It's to bad that peoples thoughts are so programmed that there can't be a topic like Bob started here. I think this thread has the potential to illuminate and educate.Quote: WizardSentence on Romes will be announced shortly.
Meanwhile, forum management is discussing a change in rules to get back to a focus on Vegas and gambling.
Ams blocked the thread right away or so he says, that is sad because I think he may have had the experience and certainly the intelligence to discuss this topic in an adult and possibly civil manner.
My take on more than 80% of AMS posts is that they all include a slightly disguised insult, and he has been given time out occasionally for it, but also I've witnessed Babs instant defense of anything remotely insulting to AMS. It's possible he has her on speed PM? Whatever, they're handling that. But then I notice Once dear leaps in and warns and threatens against straying to close the insult line. Is everyone that pitifully sensitive? Is that what your work of love and respect for free speech has come to?
I've had gay friends longer than twice the time AMS has been alive. A friend of ours who is a Dyke just left after staying with us for two weeks, [she is also an excellent cook].
I remember years ago some mayor of San Francisco retorted when someone remarked that SF was known for having many homosexuals that live there, he said "yes we do have many gay people" but we also have a lot of other things of interest.
I'm sorry to see you shut down this thread, for whatever reason you feel the need, [if you do]. I don't see it as prejudice or racist, maybe others have to? IDK, but if members here don't give this a chance to be discussed openly and maturely, that is as homophobic as anything I can think of, when we are afraid to even say the word. It must not appear to you Wizard, that there has been a direct insult, or you would have dealt with it, as would OD, or whoever's on duty. I think by not giving it a chance, you are reducing LBG's to that being the entirety of their existence. We all are, more than our sexuality.
We have moderators standing at the ready to do what they feel is necessary, extra warnings have already been given. What is everyone afraid of?
Quote: AZDuffmanThen they report "up to 10% of the population is gay." This fits the gay agenda to make it seem more "normal" as at 1-2% many people will not know a gay but at 10% most people will.
Other people we need to worry about as they are less than 1-2% of the population and abnormal.
Supermodels
Playmate model body types
Geniuses
Artistic and musical prodigies
Olympic capable gold medalists with an overabundance of fast twitch or slow twitch muscle fibers
Guys over 6-8 making millions with an inflatable ball.
etc.,
Like when left handers were punished, there's always some stupid idea out there to punish people who are at most annoying to you rather than actually dangerous.
Quote: WizardSentence on Romes will be announced shortly.
Meanwhile, forum management is discussing a change in rules to get back to a focus on Vegas and gambling.
I would have thanked you twice if I could
Quote: rxwineOther people we need to worry about as they are less than 1-2% of the population and abnormal.
Supermodels
Playmate model body types
Geniuses
Artistic and musical prodigies
Olympic capable gold medalists with an overabundance of fast twitch or slow twitch muscle fibers
Guys over 6-8 making millions with an inflatable ball.
etc.,
Like when left handers were punished, there's always some stupid idea out there to punish people who are at most annoying to you rather than actually dangerous.
I dont think AP's make up 1/10 of one percent of the population.
I am part of such a scorned minority
Quote: petroglyphIt's to bad that peoples thoughts are so programmed that there can't be a topic like Bob started here. I think this thread has the potential to illuminate and educate.
Ams blocked the thread right away or so he says, that is sad because I think he may have had the experience and certainly the intelligence to discuss this topic in an adult and possibly civil manner.
My take on more than 80% of AMS posts is that they all include a slightly disguised insult, and he has been given time out occasionally for it, but also I've witnessed Babs instant defense of anything remotely insulting to AMS. It's possible he has her on speed PM? Whatever, they're handling that. But then I notice Once dear leaps in and warns and threatens against straying to close the insult line. Is everyone that pitifully sensitive? Is that what your work of love and respect for free speech has come to?
I've had gay friends longer than twice the time AMS has been alive. A friend of ours who is a Dyke just left after staying with us for two weeks, [she is also an excellent cook].
I remember years ago some mayor of San Francisco retorted when someone remarked that SF was known for having many homosexuals that live there, he said "yes we do have many gay people" but we also have a lot of other things of interest.
I'm sorry to see you shut down this thread, for whatever reason you feel the need, [if you do]. I don't see it as prejudice or racist, maybe others have to? IDK, but if members here don't give this a chance to be discussed openly and maturely, that is as homophobic as anything I can think of, when we are afraid to even say the word. It must not appear to you Wizard, that there has been a direct insult, or you would have dealt with it, as would OD, or whoever's on duty. I think by not giving it a chance, you are reducing LBG's to that being the entirety of their existence. We all are, more than our sexuality.
We have moderators standing at the ready to do what they feel is necessary, extra warnings have already been given. What is everyone afraid of?
I agree with this.
The problem is this thread was started from a comment that gays are degenerative to the human race.
You cant start an illuminating and constructive conversation that is insult free with such a comment.
As to the comment itself, there was not even given any credence to it. I can only assume Maxpens thoughts are homosexuals are degenerative because they conduct sex that does not result in procreation.
1) homosexuals can have children. I know quite a few that engaged in straight sex for that purpose, both male and female. Its a choice to do so that nothing prohibits them from making.
2) by that definition I am certain that every straight male on this forum has had degenerative sex.
Masturbation.
Oral sex (about as much the wrong hole as any gay male uses)
Anal with the opposite sex (wrong degenerative hole again)
Using birth control.
I’ve blocked all the political threads already because I don’t come to a gambling forum for that crap. I knew this thread wouldn’t bring anything but arguing and suspensions.
Mike suspend Romes if you must but I won’t be back as long as he’s suspended and honestly if he’s suspended I might not be back for a while after that. This forum used to be about something interesting and it has been reduced to the lefts and rights shitting all over each other.
New member: Hi. I'm Gay. I love
being Gay and I love you knowing
I'm Gay, But unless you're Gay
yourself, you can't talk about it,
discuss it, acknowledge it any
way. If you do, you're a bigot
and a homophobe.
Because this is what it's come
down to. If you don't want it
discussed, shut up about it.
Quit telling people you're
sexual preferences. I've never
ever had a another man tell
me, hey, I like to have sex with
women. Why do you think that
is. Because it's NONE OF MY
BUSINESS. For the life of me,
I don't understand why so many
Gay people have to make their
Gayness my issue too.
Quote: PokerGrinderRomes should not be suspended, he is completely correct. This thread has no place here,
A mod (Mike?} said in a thread
that was being hijacked to
start a Gay thread, so I started
one. And now everybody is
upset. What's been said here
that's wrong or offensive. Please
point it out.
Quote: EvenBobI've never ever had a another man tell me, hey, I like to have sex with women.
That definitely says a lot about the men you keep company with
I have a feeling if they make too much of a change the forum won't be very active. As I said before, people come for the gambling and the math, but they stay for the drama(and various other things of course). You can look at some other gambling forums , once you take away some of the most prominent troublemakers the form practically dies.Quote: darkozI would have thanked you twice if I could
The only thing I can really see working in this situation is there being a rule about starting controversial threads, and then punishing the offenders. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind Bob started this thread with the intention of causing controversy.
Personally, I think they should have some kind of locked section where you need a password in order to view it and post. Something you have to opt-in with a disclaimer to participate. They could have more relaxed rules. I would also make it so not just a random new member can sign up for it. I would make it to where you had to be a member here for x amount of time and posts.
Quote: darkoz
2) by that definition I am certain that every straight male on this forum has had degenerative sex.
But I didn't enjoy it, any of those
times. Well, maybe just a little.
And I would never do it again,
unless of course the opportunity
presents itself.
Quote: TomGThat definitely says a lot about the men you keep company with
That those men are secure in their
sexuality and don't need to announce
it? You are correct.
