darkoz
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July 5th, 2019 at 12:11:11 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

I am sure there is no law about providing a social security card. But even if they insist on it, they can only withhold taxes, not the entire jackpot, right? Denying an entire jackpot is essentially saying the casino gets a free-roll on most foreigners and anyone else without a social security number -- and it's perfectly legal to never apply for a SSN. Withholding taxes just means you get back the correct amount when you file, correct?

On something like this (and a lot of other things people ask about here), I would suggest trying an assemblyman -- they are literally the people who make the law; or the attorney general -- literally the highest level of law enforcement. Any guidance they offer could go a long way without having to pay a retainer.



My ex was a foreigner with no ssn so they withheld taxes and paid the jackpot.(and no she was not an illegal immigrant)

That should answer you question
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July 5th, 2019 at 12:12:34 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

But oftentimes that not how the system is being used, it's being used as a way of life. They figure out how to beat the system. It's a skill handed down though generations.



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July 5th, 2019 at 12:16:09 PM permalink
What kind of person notices what the person in front of them is buying, how they are paying for it and then follows them out to see what kind of car they are driving?
Really, who goes shopping these days? Between delivery and curbside pickup, I'm leery of anyone hanging around cashiers watching what others buy.
Lastly, what is the connection between people buying lobster and Cadillac's. I have heard similar stories at least a dozen times. Fat( almost always black) people with a shopping cart full of luxury items bought with food stamps and then they drive off in their Escalade, complete with 500 Watt stereo and spinning hubcaps.
darkoz
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July 5th, 2019 at 12:21:06 PM permalink
Quote: TomG




I say just give a jar of peanut butter, loaf of bread, and gallon of milk (or some equivalent) every week to anyone who is willing to wait in line for it. Then just cut out all food stamps entirely. It would save a lot of money. But Wal-Mart and 7-11 will never let that happen.



So heartless u won't even give them jelly for their peanut butter sandwich lol.

The problem is people havd dietary needs.

Religious reasons (no matzoh for passover? Etc.)

They have dietary requirements (sugary products for certain diabetes)

There are lactose intolerant people (and peanut allergies so their goes 2 of your choices)

Its probably easier to just let people choose their own food
billryan
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July 5th, 2019 at 12:35:27 PM permalink
So the government would become the largest purchaser of peanut butter ,and also buy copious amounts of bread and milk.
Do they deliver them to each person? If so how?
Do they rent warehouses for the local deliveries? How many employees will it take to man these warehouses?
How does the food get to the warehouses?
Lets suppose SNAP is 8% of a businesses revenue. Will the government subsidize this lost income? If not, how many jobs will be lost due to lost business? Less business means less restocking. More jobs lost.
What about people with peanut allergies? Do we set up a separate delivery system for them?
Can I chose 1% milk? How about chocolate milk? Will the bread be brought locally or on a national basis to get economy of scale? I like rye bread, but my kids like white bread. Who chooses what we get?
Will there be local boards deciding their neighbors fates or will we have one central faceless panel deciding what a third of Americans eat.
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July 5th, 2019 at 12:35:38 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

So heartless u won't even give them jelly for their peanut butter sandwich lol.

The problem is people havd dietary needs.

Religious reasons (no matzoh for passover? Etc.)

They have dietary requirements (sugary products for certain diabetes)

There are lactose intolerant people (and peanut allergies so their goes 2 of your choices)

Its probably easier to just let people choose their own food



Sure their could be options, just like the charities that provide lunches to homeless often offer some really great vegan/organic/religious/healthy options. The other option would be to spend our own money on the things we need or want -- just as most of us currently are doing. It certainly wouldn't be easier, but it would be less expensive. And that's a big part of the problem: the government will always choose whatever is easy over whatever is cost efficient. Just throw money at a problem

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Blaming the people who catch the money being thrown at them always reminds me of the people who blamed Johnnie Cochran and Robert Shapiro for OJ for getting away with murder.
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July 5th, 2019 at 12:47:03 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

So the government would become the largest purchaser of peanut butter ,and also buy copious amounts of bread and milk.
Do they deliver them to each person? If so how?
Do they rent warehouses for the local deliveries? How many employees will it take to man these warehouses?
How does the food get to the warehouses?
Lets suppose SNAP is 8% of a businesses revenue. Will the government subsidize this lost income? If not, how many jobs will be lost due to lost business? Less business means less restocking. More jobs lost.
What about people with peanut allergies? Do we set up a separate delivery system for them?
Can I chose 1% milk? How about chocolate milk? Will the bread be brought locally or on a national basis to get economy of scale? I like rye bread, but my kids like white bread. Who chooses what we get?
Will there be local boards deciding their neighbors fates or will we have one central faceless panel deciding what a third of Americans eat.



You should know very well that this isn't going to be done. If it were, it could very well be done for a lot less than the $125 per person per month currently being spent -- and give benefits to more people. And if you had any problems with it, it would easily be solved by you going to the store and buying all the groceries you did like.

Perhaps there would be some negative externalities, like Wal-Mart losing some profits. That would be more offset by the lower tax burden we all pay into to provide our current welfare state.
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July 5th, 2019 at 1:08:22 PM permalink
So some people get peanut butter and bread while others get to pick their own foods? I'm not following. I thought your idea was to give everyone bland food to survive.
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July 5th, 2019 at 1:08:42 PM permalink
Quote: ReyGarcia




For machine play, I thought the $10,000 transaction threshold means cash-in or cash-out more than $10,000 in 24 hours.
Does winning or losing more than $10,000 at any time during 24 hours count?



You are correct, winning or losing has nothing to do with a CTR. It is purely did you put more than $10,000 of cash into the machine or take more than $10,000 of cash out of the machine, It is all about the cash. If you cash out more than $10k, on a machine and ask the casino for a check instead of cash there will be no CTR. They are tracking cash going in or out of the casino.
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July 5th, 2019 at 1:29:07 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

So some people get peanut butter and bread while others get to pick their own foods? I'm not following. I thought your idea was to give everyone bland food to survive.



Everyone would have the option to get cheap food to help them survive. Certain barriers, like a time commitment of waiting in line, while also removing some barriers, like needing an ID or address, would allow more of it go to the people who need it the most.

Everyone would also have the option to go to any store they wanted to and buy whatever food (or non-food items) they want or need. Ideally, a lower cost to the government would mean most of us would pay less taxes and therefore have more money to spend on these things.

Far better than our current system where only some people are allowed to get these government handouts and the government spends a lot of money on it.

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