Free Julian Assange
Quote: bobbartopTruth Is Treason In An Empire of Lies
The issue, as I understand the actual charge, is that Assange actively helped Chelsea Manning hack the govt computer in order to get the documents he then published. I think it's correct that that is illegal, and apparently they have some evidence that shows Assange took a part-password from Manning and either he himself broke it or got a black hat to crack the rest.
Otoh, that may be a pretext just to get him over here, and lots more may be ready to rain down. I guess we'll see. But reportedly they've avoided any taint of 1st Amendment issues in the actual indictment.
Quote: bobbartopTruth Is Treason In An Empire of Lies
Thats why we need to be rid of Trump
Quote: beachbumbabs
Otoh, that may be a pretext just to get him over here, and lots more may be ready to rain down.
understatement
Quote: darkozThats why we need to be rid of Trump
Of course. That's because only republicans are dishonest.
Quote: bobbartopOf course. That's because only republicans are dishonest.
Absolutely not. I don't trust anybody in DC. Do you??
That's why I support ALL investigations regardless of party
Quote: darkozThats why we need to be rid of Trump
Be patient, only 5 1/2 years to go. The
real question is, will Pence be on the
ticket next year. They want somebody
they can run in 2024, and that ain't
Pence.
Quote: terapinedAbsolutely not. I don't trust anybody in DC. Do you??
That's why I support ALL investigations regardless of party
Investigate the investigators.
Quote: bobbartopOf course. That's because only republicans are dishonest.
I specifically said Trump
Get an honest Republican in office and I am fine
Get a dishonest democrat in office and I am for treatment the same as I advocate for Trump
Quote: darkozI specifically said Trump
Get an honest Republican in office and I am fine
Rand Paul.
Quote: RonCI read the indictment. If he was involved in stealing documents and braking into our computer systems, he should be prosecuted fully. Not just for him, but every time it happens. Stealing files is not a "Freedom of the Press" issue.
He just spent seven years in a box. Time served.
And where's the cat?
Quote: bobbartopRand Paul.
Sure.
I may not support him or his policies but if he was to win and was honest I am fine with that
There is a difference between wanting your party in power to support your beliefs vs wanting anyone in your party to be president no matter how bad he is
Quote: bobbartopHe just spent seven years in a box. Time served.
And where's the cat?
So a murderer on the run who eludes punishment by hiding at their girlfriends house did time served for living in a box
WikiLeaks was a good idea but people forget that dumping humungous numbers of documents there allows for hundreds of forgeries to go unscrutinized.
Putin's Pals essentially used WikiLeaks as a tool by dumping so much data and Assange had no way of knowing this. the seven year police/military presence outside the embassy was funded by the USA.
Quote: RonCStealing files is not a "Freedom of the Press" issue.
Policing the world is not a "no foreign entanglements" issue.
Quote: bobbartopAnd where's the cat?
Conflicting reports are out on that...
--the embassy gave it to a shelter because Assange would not clean the box
--Assange gave it away so that it could live a normal life
Quote: beachbumbabsThe issue, as I understand the actual charge, is that Assange actively helped Chelsea Manning hack the govt computer in order to get the documents he then published.
That’s Bradley Manning you are talking about, not Chelsea.
Quote: darkoz
There is a difference between wanting your party in power to support your beliefs vs wanting anyone in your party to be president no matter how bad he is
Sounds like Hillary?
Quote: bobbartopHe just spent seven years in a box. Time served.
And where's the cat?
The cat is also in a sealed box, along with a flask of poison and a source of radiation.
From what I've read the cat is both dead and alive.
Quote: darkozSo a murderer on the run who eludes punishment by hiding at their girlfriends house did time served for living in a box
Stay on topic. Let's not bring up the visits and vegan lunches from Pamela Anderson.
Quote: bobbartopPolicing the world is not a "no foreign entanglements" issue.
I am not sure what your point is on this, though I do know that George Washington warned against foreign entanglements. In this specific case, some are concerned about arresting Assange being an attack on freedom of speech. That concern would be justified if he was being arrested for speech...but he was arrested for stealing from the government files. One is not free to do that.
Quote: bobbartopStay on topic. Let's not bring up the visits and vegan lunches from Pamela Anderson.
I heard that they have videos...
Quote: HullabalooThe cat is also in a sealed box, along with a flask of poison and a source of radiation.
From what I've read the cat is both dead and alive.
Omg, what is this? Please post warnings for me before bad cat jokes. Thanks.
Quote: BozThat’s Bradley Manning you are talking about, not Chelsea.
Is that not her new name? I know this is an issue for you, but I address people by how they ask to be addressed. If I don't have to sleep with that person or be that person myself, I couldn't care less what's under anybody's clothing.
Quote: RSWtf are you talking about a cat for? Unless it’s a Schrödinger’s cat reference; I just didn’t imagine y’all that smart. :)
I, for one, got the Schrödinger’s joke immediately. What was your excuse? (Insert fake smiley face here in return).
Quote: beachbumbabsThe issue, as I understand the actual charge, is that Assange actively helped Chelsea Manning hack the govt computer in order to get the documents he then published. I think it's correct that that is illegal, and apparently they have some evidence that shows Assange took a part-password from Manning and either he himself broke it or got a black hat to crack the rest.
Otoh, that may be a pretext just to get him over here, and lots more may be ready to rain down. I guess we'll see. But reportedly they've avoided any taint of 1st Amendment issues in the actual indictment.
if youve ever read bradleys manifesto, he had access to all of the documents and had access to TROVES of it. he was a data analyst who would review missions and come up with gameplans or strategies for future battles. He simply wasnt supposed to take it home, which he did, and was apparently protocol to keep copies of the data so it was simply lying around because he had so much of it apparently. Julian assange was a reporter in my opinion.
Quote: beachbumbabsIs that not her new name? I know this is an issue for you, but I address people by how they ask to be addressed. If I don't have to sleep with that person or be that person myself, I couldn't care less what's under anybody's clothing.
It may be their new name but the crime was committed as Bradley.
Question. Who holds most of the NCAA Basketball records at UCLA? Hint, it’s not Kareem according to the records.
Quote: BozIt may be their new name but the crime was committed as Bradley.
Question. Who holds most of the NCAA Basketball records at UCLA? Hint, it’s not Kareem according to the records.
Bill Walton? He's a deadhead by the way, seen him at shows :-)
Quote: beachbumbabsI, for one, got the Schrödinger’s joke immediately. What was your excuse? (Insert fake smiley face here in return).
I just didn't imagine y'all were that smart which is why I initially didn't think that's what was being referenced.
Quote: heatmapif youve ever read bradleys manifesto, he had access to all of the documents and had access to TROVES of it. he was a data analyst who would review missions and come up with gameplans or strategies for future battles. He simply wasnt supposed to take it home, which he did, and was apparently protocol to keep copies of the data so it was simply lying around because he had so much of it apparently. Julian assange was a reporter in my opinion.
The first count of the indictment is based not on the information he got, but on the fact that he assisted in trying to break into a secured system and help steal information.
Quote: RonCThe first count of the indictment is based not on the information he got, but on the fact that he assisted in trying to break into a secured system and help steal information.
If you sit back and think about the timing, this is simply a way to introduce evidence Assange has against the Deep State. It is time to rumble and alot of the trash in the closet is getting ready to be taken out to the curb.
Quote: RonCThe first count of the indictment is based not on the information he got, but on the fact that he assisted in trying to break into a secured system and help steal information.
ah okay well at least wikipedia says he downloaded the database of materials over the internet. from my understanding if you are not supposed to access something that isnt yours its considered hacking even if you know how to access it.
From wikipedia :
Assigned in 2009 to an Army unit in Iraq as an intelligence analyst, Manning had access to classified databases. In early 2010, she leaked classified information to WikiLeaks and confided this to Adrian Lamo, an online acquaintance.[11] Lamo indirectly informed the Army's Criminal Investigation Command, and Manning was arrested in May that same year.[12] The material included videos of the July 12, 2007, Baghdad airstrike, and the 2009 Granai airstrike in Afghanistan; 251,287 U.S. diplomatic cables;[13] and 482,832 Army reports that came to be known as the "Iraq War Logs"[14] and "Afghan War Diary".[15] The material was published by WikiLeaks and its media partners between April 2010 and April 2011.
i emphasize this because people are the biggest problem to security and there is a difference between hacking and having access to the data already and stealing. i did a small report when i was in school on him and this hacking charge is confusing me because its not in the main narrative that i previously know.
Quote: heatmapManning had access to classified databases. In early 2010, she leaked classified
That's incorrect. There was no 'she'
Manning then. Cassius Clay won
the 1960 Olympics, not Ali. To say
Ali won would be incorrect.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: heatmapManning had access to classified databases. In early 2010, she leaked classified
That's incorrect. There was no 'she'
Manning then. Cassius Clay won
the 1960 Olympics, not Ali. To say
Ali won would be incorrect.
I was like wtf I didn’t say that but I mixed wiki pedia with my statement... I don’t believe it’s a she either trust me. If it’s a she then I’m an attack helicopter and you better treat me like that and if you misgender me I’ll report you to the London police and they’ll run an inquiry I know they are on top of the thought police crap
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@TulsiGabbard
The arrest of #JulianAssange is meant to send a message to all Americans and journalists: be quiet, behave, toe the line. Or you will pay the price.
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But the Democrat party prefers Biden or Sanders?
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Turns out, Assange let his beloved pet go in November so he wouldn’t be trapped at the embassy anymore, Italian newspaper La Repubblica previously reported. The “isolation became unbearable” for the embassy cat and Assange allowing the feline to run free will give it “a healthier life.”
It's unclear where the cat is now.
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Quote: bobbartopIt's unclear where the cat is now.
Don't worry. Scotland Yard will find him. They're posting lost kitty pictures on every lamppost in London.
With everything that is happening in the world, you’re worried about a freaking cat?
Neighbor had a nest of bluejays on his property. Another neighbor loved feeding stray cats. All of the hatchlings fledged at the same time, and the cats ate every of them the moment they hit the ground. Feathers and bird parts all over bird man’s yard.
Bird man was furious. Cat man said ‘nature’. Days later, 26 cats were dead.
Quote: BozIt may be their new name but the crime was committed as Bradley.
Question. Who holds most of the NCAA Basketball records at UCLA? Hint, it’s not Kareem according to the records.
Lew Alcindor..... Or if you want Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor, Jr.
Quote: petroglyphTulsi Gabbard
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@TulsiGabbard
The arrest of #JulianAssange is meant to send a message to all Americans and journalists: be quiet, behave, toe the line. Or you will pay the price.
So, don't break any laws? Sure, I have no problem with that...
I got $10 that says that if Assange is convicted of a crime in the U.S. court system, he will be pardoned by Trump (or whoever is President) by inauguration day, 2021.
Any takers?
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With everything that is happening in the world, you’re worried about a freaking cat?
Yes, it's a big deal to me. Do you want me to apologize to you for that?
Quote: bobbartopYes, it's a big deal to me. Do you want me to apologize to you for that?
I hear ya, dude... I care more about animals than I do some people...
Good. I've developed the same viewpoint.Quote: TigerWuI hear ya, dude... I care more about animals than I do some people...
Assange has been the victim of a politically motivated witch hunt. it was Putin's minions who manipulated WikiLeaks thru a massive dump of documents.
Quote: TankoBird man was furious. Cat man said ‘nature’. Days later, 26 cats were dead.
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I'm confused, as world politics often makes me. If I'm reading this right, several countries over several years have spent several million dollars haranguing this guy for "stealing", "hacking", and "violation of privacy", for either entering a .gov database or acquiring material from a .gov employee, yes?
What's been done about the tens of thousands of murders he's uncovered?
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I'm confused, as world politics often makes me. If I'm reading this right, several countries over several years have spent several million dollars haranguing this guy for "stealing", "hacking", and "violation of privacy", for either entering a .gov database or acquiring material from a .gov employee, yes?
What's been done about the tens of thousands of murders he's uncovered?
Our guys, shooting civilians. It's all on tape. I thought we were supposed to be the good guys.
